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3781  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are you making money with BOTS or Copy Trading? on: October 24, 2021, 09:53:16 PM
if bots would have helped me in profit making then probably I might have made millions and settled in Monte Carlo by this time but in reality still struggling for earning every fraction of bitcoin. Honestly I have recovered all the losses happened by bots through self trading. Like you have mentioned, I started using bots after hundreds of back tests but in real market it was failing for no reasons.
It is so true that bots do not guarantee profit, I know even owners who sell their bots who are not that rich. I know one guy who created a bot, and that guy not only uses his own bot, but also sold a lot, and I mean sold A LOT of his bot. Even he is not that rich. Sure he is richer than me, sure he has a few million dollars and that sounds like a lot of money. However if you had millions of dollars and a bot, I am sure you should be one of the richest people in the crypto world when you combine them both.

It means that he is not really selling a bot that is so profitable, if it was that profitable dude could have turned his 1-2 million dollars into 10-20 million dollars and not have like a house money like right now. With a great house, all of his money would be gone. That is why I believe that there is no bot that could make you rich over night.
3782  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: October 23, 2021, 09:58:24 PM
^^Here we are talking about majestic7 and then people are acting like depositing is an important part of the deal. Let's face it guys, we are not doing something that is expensive, we are doing something that is free, hence it doesn't require any money at all. This is why I understand that there is a good case to be made by the casino to simply avoid something like "deleting an account for not depositing" because they also offer something free. Look at the last posts, it is all about premier league and who will score, look at how easily we are predicting and making a profit if we are right, if you are offering as much as 10k dollars for something free, asking money for it doesn't make sense.
3783  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: October 22, 2021, 04:15:01 PM
Not sure that's really the case for FortuneJack. Databases these days do a lot of purging already for non active accounts, but I'm sure there's not too many of use here facing this issue on the forum. And I thought data was cheap these days. You could store a million usernames and passwords for less than a gig I'm sure!

And not a question about being illegal. As Trofo said, a question about becoming a profitable business, to serve actual customers, and not freebie searching people Smiley
That's the case here, database is not cheap because you have to keep it growing if you never purge them, sure you get under 1 gig if you stop it there, but it will keep on growing and growing and growing. So, why not spend 500 bucks with limitations when the alternative is thousands and increasing? So, purging here and there makes sense.

I do not agree with the freebie searching people part, it is totally fine if you are freebie searching and someone is offering it. I would get it if it was some other place that doesn't offer it, but fortunejack literally has a game that gives 10k dollars to winner and entry is free, of course there will be people who are freebie searching here, so not depositing makes sense in this case, not all the time but on this case that makes sense.
3784  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fomo AGAIN? on: October 22, 2021, 12:46:25 PM
There are always those who rejoice when the price drops and when it rises, because that's how they make a profit - that's perfectly normal. Volatility will be one of the main features when it comes to Bitcoin for some time to come.
Volatility is great and rejoicing when the price drops is something that only the people who know how to invest does, if you are not really great then you are going to be upset when the price goes down, I do not get why people are that upset when the price goes down but I know that people sell when the price goes down, that is how the price goes down. Like it goes down to 50k now means that someone sold a lot at 55k as well, and if it drops more then people sold even more, meanwhile I will be basically buying at that level.

I would say that people who know what bitcoin could do will be buying like me. I get that people who do not know what they are doing because they are new, but members like me should be super happy whenever the price drops. Right now, this new ATH is killing me, I am not happy about it, I am not going to sell even if it hits 100k, so I rather see it at 30k rather than 100k right now.
3785  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: October 21, 2021, 04:36:42 PM
I do not want my account to be considered as dormant account so I just checked my account and my last deposit was on May. Seems that I will get the same email as what you got few days back if I will not make any deposit in the next few months. But it is good to hear that there is a way to unlock the account once the account is locked due to inactivity so we do not need to create a new account.
No worries, as OP/FJ says, yeah, we can just request to unlock the account when we're ready to deposit.

I still hope the can reconsider manually approving people on this forum to continue using their accounts without depositing. I mean, for the active gamblers anyway. But fully understand why they'd want to do that, just I think they could accidentally lose actual gamblers just for this one rules I haven't seen anywhere else.
I would like to say that this is a database issue. Unfortunately these days database control is getting more and more expensive, servers are not cheap and that is why these companies are getting their account number lower because that would be a lot cheaper for them. I understand that closing these accounts with minimum required information there so that you could restart them whenever you feel like coming back.

However in this case, we could literally just not deposit anything and just gamble with the free stuff. Like majesic7 and guessing 7 goal scorers, we all love that right? Why would I want to be depositing if I am only interested in that? Is it illegal to be only doing that?
3786  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 21, 2021, 03:21:31 PM
Julian Nagelsmann has now tested positive for covid-19 and will not be able to train bayern for the next 1-2 weeks and coach the team in the league games...
the coach was already absent from yesterday's cl match against benfica and will fly back to munich separately from the team
https://www.kicker.de/nagelsmann-positiv-auf-corona-getestet-875701/artikel
It is not the same for managers. I understand that if you are a player, if you test positive then you will not be able to play and you will be outside of the pitch, probably at home. However, managers do not have to "not manage" when they are outside right? Like they could literally watch it at home in front of TV and could call up their friends? I do not remember anyone checking their phones while managing, so I am not entirely sure, but they could use a loophole like give someone close to bench a phone, not in the bench but close, and then he could rely the information.

However with the German strict hardwork stuff and all that cliche things, I believe they will probably just focus on assistant manager or whoever will be interim until Nagelsmann comes will manage the games. Not really a big deal considering they are Bayern and they will probably just win.
3787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: October 21, 2021, 02:36:53 PM
After Barcelona showed a dull game at home, and Real Madrid showed an excellent away game, the odds changed (but just a little):
2,75 - 3,60 - 2,55
But I still disagree with the fact that Barcelona has practically equal chances with Real Madrid. I think in this pair we should bet on a simple victory for Real, it's easy money.
I am not saying that Valencia is a better team than Shaktar, but it is obvious that Valencia is no short deal neither, Kiev also is a very good team as well. I am not saying this to sound like Barcelona is suddenly better than Real Madrid, I believe that both sides suck as well, I believe Madrid is a little bit better since they still have some of their older players compared to Barcelona that is in rebuilding mode.

However these last 2-3 games should not be the proof of that, we have a lot more to look for in these cases. Obviously it is something that Barcelona looked a little less but at the same time they did that all season. When the topic is El Classico, anything could happen.
3788  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much would you like to see Bitcoin priced in 2022? on: October 21, 2021, 03:15:02 AM
in 2021 btc has been in the 30-65 range

in 2020 btc has been in the 3.7- 29.9 range

So 2022 in the 100-200 range looks possible.
But, we are not having yearly growth in bitcoin market; it is once in 4 years. So, 2022 might remain as a bearish one hence we are not going to see a new ATH in 2022 but in this year we might have seen only 25% or 50% of growth so far and final ATH would be around 2x or 4x from here.

I think it will go up at least that more likely to 75-80k.

But since I pick what I want I still want it to bounce about in the 100-200k range for the whole year.
80k seems the right target for this weekend and 200k might be possible by end of this year. Still, anything inbetween $100k to $200k will confirm us that bitcoin market is still into same pattern which must be a warning about upcoming bearish trend in 2022.
3789  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fomo AGAIN? on: October 20, 2021, 08:14:04 PM
The man obviously didn't notice your avatar showing for weeks that it was the right time to invest in BTC, the discount that appeared and kept the price around $30k (or even lower) was for some obviously a completely wrong signal - announcements of crypto winter that then running through the forum led many people to sell at the completely wrong time.
Unfortunately there will always be people who believe that bitcoin is not doing something that they want it to do. It always does something that is volatile and good in the end, and we should be buying when it is low instead of selling, but people see it dropping and get scared and sell. I see forum posts about how everything sucks whenever price drops, whereas I really love the periods when it goes low, because then I would be able to buy at that price and I would be doing great. In the end I would love to see it drop again, yes that sounds weird to many many people but that would mean I could buy cheap again, that is why I love cheaper prices.
3790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is this a right time to buy some ethereum?. on: October 20, 2021, 04:46:05 PM
Ethereum looks very Bullish now and likely to hit 4K in few days if Bitcoin remains Bullish. Once Ethereum's major upgrade occurs sometime in late 2021 or early 2022, one simulation estimates that the circulating supply of Ethereum could shrink by around 1.4% each year at current rates of fee burning. Is this the right time to collect eth and wait till upgrade happen?.
Sure if you have the money, now would be a good time to start buying it. Ethereum usually reach its all time high price after bitcoin reaches its all time high, and bitcoin has already reached a new ATH price and seems like it will keep going from there. A lot of people have predicted a bullish trend from now till December.

So, there is every possibility that Ethereum itself is going to also reach the last ATH price and cross it to reach another new ATH price. So if you have the money to invest, now is a good time to start buying Ethereum before the month of November and December reaches.
3791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which Stablecoin is the most Trustworthy? on: October 20, 2021, 03:02:41 PM
- Is it possible for a stablecoin to crash to 0?

- Will centralised exchanges start delisting USDT in light of this news?

- What will happen to all of the USDT tokens in the millions of user wallets, become worthless?

- Will all decentralised projects smart contracts that used USDT in them be automatically cancelled/void?
Anything could be possible as all the currently existing stablecoins are centralized one and when any problem occurs then we cannot expect things to go as smooth as what we have right now. We do see many corporate are getting bankrupted for some reasons hence how we could expect those centralized will stay out of problems. So, stablecoins may get crashed to zero for any reason and then all your other three points may happen as a consequences to that.

which centralized stablecoin is backed by FDIC or SIPC protection policies?
Could you please link me on what is FDIC/SIPC. I just checked on google but I guess I must need some time to understand these better. Hope one day there will be a stablecoin by satisfying all these and in decentralized environment.
3792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: advantages in the cryptocurrency industry on: October 20, 2021, 02:00:38 PM
There are 3 options to profit in the cryptocurrency industry. according to my version like this:
 - Trading: It is called a way to get more money by trading cryptos, either by transferring between them or by providing exchange services.
 - Investment: There are many cryptocurrencies with a good future, but I only recommend Bitcoin and Ethereum.
 - Gambling: sometimes beneficial and sometimes detrimental. I don't recommend it at all (risk high)
Don't invest yet until you're able to understand the whole concept of cryptocurrencies and how volatile this market is.
There is a process before you can do that, however, you can start by buying bitcoin with around the smallest amount that you can test to see how it feels like owning it but you won't feel the fluctuations since it's just a small amount.
Yup, investing, gambling and trading all comes with risks. Before you go into any of those things you have to be sure that you understand the risks and also knows how it all works. Gambling has a lot of risk but you can also learn,because knowing what you’re doing actually puts you in a better position than someone who doesn’t have any skills and experience. But, I also don’t recommend gambling to people and I don’t do it as well.

I do investment and it has been working really well for me since I started it. Trading is not an easy work for just anyone to do, it’s a lot of work and you have to learn the technical skills or else you’re going to be losing your money in the market on a daily.
3793  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Stop lose trading feature on: October 20, 2021, 01:30:01 PM
Even limit orders may serve the exact purposes that you are looking for, I would like to be cautious against ever changing market conditions so that you may not get trapped by all of sudden volatility. When you are placing orders market may seem like in your favour but when you move away from the market then anything could happen which might lead you to lose your capital.

If you are preferring to trade with the help of limit orders and then you must choose non-news hours as market may not show much volatility in such hours. Still, wild fluctuations may happen at any time hence placing stop-loss order at the time of placing entry order is also most mandatory one to secure your capital.
Limit order "could" work for your favor, but it is not working when you are selling while it is going down. If you ever put a limit order under what the current price is, then the order will be executed right away, that is why limit order doesn't work with future caution. You need to basically use limit order to buy lower, sell higher without you being there, and on top of that use stop loss to sell when it goes under a certain level to get out when you are not there. Stop order is basically insurance, are you in profit? Great then you should put a stop order above the profit limit so that even if it goes down then you will sell with a profit and get out.
3794  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do You Use Technical Analysis? on: October 20, 2021, 06:42:25 AM
Do you use technical analysis when you trade bitcoin?
If yes, what are the best strategies? Bitcoin is so volatile now.
For an active trader, high volatile nature is the most preferred one; you will come to know about it when you develop your own strategies. Almost all the trades must be making use of technical analysis because you cannot handle the volatility without it. So, start learning it as soon as you realize its importance and if you are preferring to pursuit a career with crypto trading.

You can make use of this forum on what you need to do and what you need to avoid while you are into preparation phase of learning. After that, you must keep learning and then should practice on real environment side by side to make sure that you are not just into only theoretical but also into real market exposure.
3795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 19, 2021, 08:53:19 PM
Reportedly he has a muscle injury and is currently being examined by the medical team how severe the injury is, with the current squad, maybe Neymar injury will not affect the PSG squad too much, because PSG still have many replacements for Neymar who are no less good, in that match of course PSG will continue to rely on Kylian Mbappe and Lionel Messi as the center of their game on the front lines.
I admit neymar is a great player but to be honest I really hate the drama (diving) he often does when getting tackles from opponents.
If you ever have a player like Neymar on your team, no matter who the alternative is, you are going to miss him for sure. I mean sure they will have something like mbappe,messi,dimaria,icardi type of situation which will be fine for them. I am sure that they are going to be doing fine and I understand that people are not sure about what they are going to do without Neymar because it is Neymar and not some other player.

I would say that for me right now he is still the most valuable player in the world. I get that he is getting older and that is why he may not be considered as expensive as he used to be and paying 220 million euro for him may not happen anymore. However dude is still one of the best players in the world and replacing that someone like icardi or di maria will not be making just a replacement or alternative, that will be a big difference.
3796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Let's pay attention to BNB? on: October 19, 2021, 08:36:33 PM
Judging from the current BNB price movement which is in the bullish zone, it is very possible for BNB to reach the $500k level by the end of this month, I even believe that if the bitcoin bullish trend continues it will help push BNB price movement to reach a new ATH this year, hopefully we will see that soon.
I am sure you meant 500, it is already at 488 right now and that is basically 500 in the crypto world. That extra 12 dollars means nothing to be honest, it could be done in a minute and would not change anything. Thats what we should be looking at, not the small amounts but the huge increases. What is the ATH for BNB? It is around 700 dollars (690 dollars on CMC).

It means that we are only 30% or so away from being ATH, that is not really that much difficult for us to reach, we could reach that level and we could definitely reach those levels by being bullish for a few more weeks. I understand that people are not sure about what's going on right now because they never saw these type of sharp increases if they are new, but from 488 to 690 is not something that is very difficult in crypto world, it could be done very soon and that is what I expect right now.
3797  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin failed at $58,000 and dropped by more than $3K in a day. on: October 19, 2021, 07:28:52 PM
I agree that it's perfectly normal for bitcoin to drop until to $3K, and nothing to worry about. I agree with you that there is no need to panic and worry. because it can change your estimates, it can even reduce the trust that can just disappear.

bitcoin will even be able to do more than that in a day. even on the 16th bitcoin can also increase by the same value. so there is no need for excessive worry because the bitcoin trend will indeed continue to increase.

bitcoin is indeed trying to increase at the moment, at least it is to be able to surpass the last ATH which is at $64,804, because the opportunity to surpass the last ATH makes bitcoin more confident. ATH is always a benchmark to be able to increase even more, just like when it has to pass $50K.

believe that bitcoin will do its best at the time many people have predicted and we just need patience to wait for it.
I am not sure if 3k would be normal in any other case, but it is normal that it happened at these prices. People need to realize that 3k drop when the price is 10k means 30% drop, when we are at 60k and there is a 3k drop that is only 2%, the difference between 30% and 2% is obvious.

So, we should not be really focusing on a price drop at the price level but on % level. That way the percentage would show you what is going on. The price dropping anything under 5% is a normal day, anything that increases under 5% is a normal day as well. The reality is that we should be basically just happy that we are non-volatile with a drop like that. We have seen how the return happened, we are in a situation where the price of bitcoin increased over 61k and nearly breaking the ATH as well. Breaking that ATH will be a very difficult one, but  it could happen for sure.
3798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Advantages Of Crypto, Disadvantages of Crypto on: October 18, 2021, 08:30:18 PM
It's very precise and it has become a challenge for cryptocurrencies basically and for people who are in cryptocurrency in general, so I don't think it needs to be thought about anymore at this time because there have been examples of similar ones in the past.
Unfortunately there is a good chance that anything China does will be a news and it will cause a drop in the long run as well. It will be a short term drop but it will happen in the long term as well. It will happen at least a few more times and people will care about for a while as well and that is not going to change.

This is not really limited to china neither, any bad news will be seen as a bad FUD and it will have a problem in the crypto. This is why we need to learn how to ignore them if we would like to make a profit like the whales but we are not going to see too many people doing that and this is going to be the difference between us and the ones who lose money.
3799  Economy / Economics / Re: Simple reason why crypto is preferred over fiats on: October 18, 2021, 07:09:51 PM
In the business world, you can observe that more businesses and entrepreneurs these days now accept payments in cryptocurrency in addition to the traditional fiat as well, to give their businesses a good digital face. A reason for this as well is to appeal to the ever increasing population of crypto users worldwide and ease purchase of commodities internationally, not like it is generally and in all situations becoming more preferable. There are some peculiar situations where cryptocurrency is the preference, there are other situations where fiats is preferred.
I believe that the number is not even 1% what it could be. There will be a lot more people who will do crypto accepting as well but that requires a little bit more less fee and better tech as well. The moment it is very easy to do and very cheap and fast then it will happen. Right now we are having a lot less people accepting because there is a good chance that you are not going to be paying less, you are going to be paying a lot more since the gas fee is a lot more and there are a lot of waiting period in bitcoin as well which doesn't make sense.

We need to reach to a level where each transaction costs under 10 cents and takes less than 10 seconds as well, wifi or regular internet excess is something that these machines will require but that is fine. I believe the moment we reach those levels then we are going to be fine and we will get 100x more people accepting crypto.
3800  Economy / Economics / Re: What do people think about CBDC? on: October 17, 2021, 08:52:21 PM
I think most of their hostility towards Bitcoin is due to concerns over its citizens moving money out of China.  They seem less inclined to openly admit that lately, but they have definitely said it on previous occasions.  In a way, I can see why they would be concerned.  It's still no excuse to limit personal freedoms, though.  After all, it's not their money.  Or at least, it isn't at the moment.  I suppose a CBDC would effectively make money their property.  That's the part people don't seem to grasp.  You won't have the freedom to decide where you can put your money.  It won't be your choice anymore.
Limit personal freedoms? China? No, they would never doo that. Mate their whole system is built on limiting personal freedoms. You can't even say anything bad about the president there. Like for example I can easily say Fuck Biden, nothing will happen, say Fuck Merkel, Fuck Boris Johnson, Fuck Macron, Fuck whoever is in charge at Spain or France or Sweden or Norway and so forth. Hell you can probably do it to their face as well, don't know how many chances you may get to get close to them, but if you ever do, you can do it and nothing will happen.

Not only you will never have a chance to face fatso leading China, but you will also never be able to say fuck you to his face, or even online, you will not be able to wake up next morning. This is why the most important part for them is to limiting freedoms and that is exactly why they banned bitcoin.
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