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2801  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where is real pumps ? on: July 21, 2022, 10:42:11 PM
100%-700%+ pumps ?
Btc and eth main cpins are good lomg term profit and u invest but we need income every day so where is the daily 300%-1000% profits ?
Any better exchanger then binamce ? For this?
Binance dont give us enough pumps
Real pumps only occur when the real bull run comes so please be patient as it can take a long time for it to occur judging the current movements of crypto this year. Btc and eth are indeed a good coin for long term investing but if your goal is to make money daily then you can try trading these coins.

See if it works well, if not then you can also add up some altcoins because I think lighter altcoins are more suitable for trading as they can fluctuate more but I cant only promise that you can earn 300 to 1k percent of profits as that seems crazy already. Even the shittiest coin cant give a return like that every single day. You need to wake up mate.
2802  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The unpredicted rise of BTC in 2022-2023 despite predicted bear market on: July 21, 2022, 10:21:58 PM
I'm not convinced the bull market will kick off after 2024 halving anymore, I think it'll more likely be 6 months before then. Due to the established pattern (3 times now) that Bitcoin has risen dramatically after it's halving, it's now much more likely to be front-run as a "buy the rumour sell the news" event, given how the effects of the halving are effectively diminishing as well. Back in 2020 there was significantly less of a "guarantee" that Bitcoin would rise after it's halving, as it had only happened twice before so could easily be considered a coincidence rather than a pattern. So next time, it won't be the same anymore.
I think it would be basically early 2023. Think about it, we usually do not really wait as much as we used to wait, it gets closer and closer. This is why I believe that we are going to end up with shorter span right now, probably 2 years. That's why 2021 to 2023 it would make a lot more sense. Everyone acts as if 2017 to 2021 to 2025, and that's not going to happen to me, it is going to be something not so similar.

At the end of the day, we are going to end up  with a big improvement in 2023 because 2022 already saw the drop, hence we got rid of all the weak hands, and we are not going to see that many of these anymore, it is going to go up easier.
2803  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin bottom there yet? Fear & Greed, Pi Cycle Top / Bottom on: July 21, 2022, 09:48:41 PM
I think this sums it up, no matter how much analysis we can do, no matter how sophisticated, there is always something that can slip through the cracks. What does seem clear is that we are, or have recently been, much closer to the bottom than we were months ago, but whether we will go down again or not, and whether we will pierce the previous low, I leave to the fortune teller.
A 3k up in price is decent so it can be considered to as a small rally while others call it as a relief rally but there are those who are not contented with it, that is why they aren't feeling pumped up or bullish with what bitcoin is showing lately. These past weeks the price have recovered and stayed from 20k.

This is already far from the bottom but what is close to bottom is the price we have last months ago, when btc reached 16k but I think that might be the real bottom already because why the price didn't drop further after that? I don't think we can go down again so if someone wants to buy, they should do it now as this can be the last call.
2804  Economy / Economics / Re: Surprisingly, Elon's Tesla is not so keen on hodling BTC anymore on: July 21, 2022, 09:33:16 PM
Its believed that the steep decline in BTC price was what fuelled the rush to sell off.
There is no steep decline but there's only a steep rise which happened lately and maybe that causes for them to sell a good number of bitcoins because a recovery like this is now getting rare and maybe after this the price can fall again and will remain that way for some months.

What do we make of this move? Is there a plan to bounce back when the market becomes favorable, or is the beginning of the end for Elon and crypto?
Make? Or you mean to so say think? If that is well I think this move is beneficial for them because they are the ones that gains a profit while it is not beneficial for us that want's btc to rise more because the price can fell down again at any moment but yes there always a chance for the price to bounce back. I don't think this was the end for them but this rather can be a start because they will buy back again once the effect takes place.
2805  Economy / Gambling / Re: The History Of Gambling. on: July 21, 2022, 07:26:02 PM
The history of gambling is quite well studied, it seems to me that it is much more interesting to look at it from the perspective of the further evolution of gambling, what awaits humanity in the near future, however, it should be borne in mind that gambling is inherently quite conservative.
I did not read studies about it but I think that history of gambling starts when people combined gaming and earning. When they started to play game with intention to earn, it is gambling.

Last 2 years we witnessed Play to Earn and do you consider it like gambling but in support of blockchain, NT technologies?

When you play games and depend on random luck, probability to win and earn, it's gambling.
We need to separate the idea of investment and gambling. Yes when you invest into bitcoin you "take a gamble" on the price, but that's still investment, and yes luck is important there as well and I get it. However, we need to realize a lot quicker to learn how gambling could be something else.

Investment back in the day into stuff like being a Sheppard or whatever and getting a bunch of sheep wasn't gambling, it's investment. But for example, dice gambling existed over 2 thousand years now and that's the difference. Look for the things that are gambling and betting which are a bit different and you will see the history of it. Plus the NFT and Play2Earn is in the investment category as well, it's not gambling.
2806  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: AI prediction/forecasting for Bitcoin and crypto trends on: July 21, 2022, 01:39:53 PM
On top of prediction, almost all trading strategies and risk managment would be improved significantly.

Would you in the sea of dishonest vendors selling renamed RSI, be interested in buying real AI predictions?
What would be the guarantee that your predictions also cannot be those renamed RSI based strategies? Because, when someone arrives here, will blame all the previous ones like they are the holy person who comes here to bring all new changes but nothing changed on the profit levels so far with almost all the traders here for over the decade of time.

Honestly, I am interested on buying a trading bot or prediction or a trading strategy which will get me some 10% profits consistently but only after a year long testing. I mean even I am interested on your promotion, I will not rush to deal with you. I will take time for following you and for evaluating your strategies/bots which last for months. In the span of such evaluating time, most fake ones will disappear. This may be the reason why I am still into searching of such a profitable bot and not making profits with my sleeping bitcoins Wink.
2807  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The right time to invest on: July 21, 2022, 08:54:34 AM
There is no right time to invest if you are planning to invest in Bitcoins.
I mean Bitcoins have already proved his capacity and strong factors, so whenever you will invest in it, it will give profits for sure. Yes it might take some time but surely you will get profit.
So whenever possible, buy as many Bitcoins as you can irrespective of the price of the coin.
Yeah, dollar cost averaging always has proved as a worthy method of strategy to profit out of bitcoin market. For dollar cost averaging, you never need to bother about where the bitcoin market is heading. Still, not buying by the times of ATH by year-end is not advisable for all kind of investors. So, there could be right and wrong time for buying bitcoin still if you are a long term investor who is ready to wait for more than four years then all the times are very good time for investing bitcoins.

The reason for which I am backing up the coin so much is that, it is limited in supply and the demand is increasing for it. So definitely the price will also grow.
That is the fundamental reason why we all blindly believe that investing in bitcoin always profitable. Still, there are times when those limited supply and higher demands not working in favor of investors. Whale's manipulation kind of things are such factors we need to consider for choosing right time.
2808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SHIB, DOGE and BabyDoge: How Do Community Favorites Perform? on: July 21, 2022, 06:06:33 AM
Many treat them disparagingly, many consider them just a fun toy and many identify them with memes, but the fact remains that the communities of these coins are so huge that they call themselves armies. We are talking about Dogecoin (DOGE), Shiba Inu (SHIB) and BabyDoge.
Those huge communities and their fun filled claims and activities are enough for progress of those coins and tokens? What is the point of calling themselves with some funny things? Moreover, why you are specially mentioning their community name here? In my opinion, any coin or token without real-life use case may not sustain. For example, if dogecoin was not considered for payments of Tesla or Spacex, then it might have got delisted in most of the exchanges.

How are these popular coins performing in times of total volatility and extreme fear on the crypto market? In short, better than expected, reacting to fundamental events on par with their more serious market competitors.
I am not new to crypto markets hence I am not expecting anything different from these meme sh!ts. I just treat them as a short term investments as Elon kind of people are still existing. In my terms short term spans up to 5 or 10 years also (and my long term denotes my life time). So, nothing to concern about short term things usually in my investment strategies.
2809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH is leading the market to a monthly high... on: July 20, 2022, 10:03:06 PM
I think this is a classic buy the rumor and sell the news, the rumor of September merge has made the ETH price gone up, and since ETH has been independent from Bitcoin, meaning that it has many Fiat pairs in many exchange so it won't be affected nor affect the bitcoin price. And I also think that because of the merge, people now prefer speculating on ETH rather than BTC.
I feel like September news wouldn't really impact it right now. I mean sure it would have a "little" impact, but not a lot, it would be boring news for the time being. ETH has been saying merge for like 2 years nowadays, and that's why it's not really a "news" if you ask me. It's definitely something that we could see right now, but shouldn't be happy about just yet.

The whole market went up, it was just a big pump, and that is why ETH went up as well. People were talking about 800 or under possible for this month or not, and we have seen double of that right now, which should tell people that it's actually a bull period, or at least start of a bull period for the time being.
2810  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin could become the gold of 21th century? on: July 20, 2022, 03:12:30 PM
It would be awesome if the US decides to do that, but I don't think it's very realistic right now. The volatility in the bitcoin market is still too high for it to be a good store of value for everybody. Historically the Gold price has kept it's value for a long period of time, we haven't seen a price drop of 50% in a few months before with it. That is why it's so attractive for the older generation as an investment to store value.
The USA will not do that for sure. They are the most liberal nation in the world so they should technically speaking be the one to do it, but they care about their USD a lot. And right now they are doing fine, even though domination of USD goes down, the value of it goes up, which means that there will be a reversal soon and people will start using that all over again.

I just do not see how it is even possible, think about how big the USA market is, and if it happened that would be awesome. But right now, even Coinbase is down like 80% in the stock market, it's just not a nation that is seeing crypto as the get out of jail free card situation, they won't do it.
2811  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Bitcoin manage to grow over time? on: July 19, 2022, 09:21:43 PM
BTC came at a time when the world was more or less on the tail end of full recovering from the last financial crash, and it was the roaring twenties in some aspects as people tend to look into new investment opportunities after being stingy for a couple of years due to the crash and weren't worried about a new crash, at least not an imminent one. Also, the tech investment concept was still going strong and people tend to latch on to any new tech whatever it might be. Will something like that continue, well, that's a different story.
Entire world was in financial crisis. That too might've triggered Satoshi to innovate blockchain technology. Bitcoin came out soon after the crisis, but the same didn't gained it's market. It made itself strong and some realised the real need and its future. One that is given as giveaway now reached an ath value near to $70k. This shows how high the demand have increased over time.
2008 was definitely a reason to create it, but satoshi worked on this for many years before he invented it, that's important. Not like dude just saw the crisis and whipped out some amazing tech right afterwards, that would be impossible.

So, he probably worked on it way before crisis ever happened. Of course, people have been trying to build something like bitcoin for over 2 decades now, this wasn't even the first, so the timing was perfect. He researched previous failed ones, and he improved it and then published it on a period of crisis, all coming together to have a great start. Then we took over from there and made it into one of the biggest investments in the world.
2812  Economy / Economics / Re: Bank runs make u use crypto on: July 19, 2022, 07:06:01 PM
I think that in relation to the banks, they're not going to wholly adopt crypto. But they're going to adopt the technology, blockchain.

That's more interesting to them and if ever they go adopt crypto, that will be nothing to us because we don't need them in managing our portfolios because we can do it on our own.
If actually the blockchain technology makes transactions go fast, without anything or anything having the power to effect any alterations, banks adopting the blockchain technology still doesn’t put them in control over anything, we still get the power to decide what happens with our assets.

But, that wouldn’t be the case here since banks are never going to adopt the blockchains that we see with cryptocurrencies, they are going to build their own and there will be a backdoor for them to manipulate everything. That idea aside, adoption of the blockchain technology will stand as one of the toughest things that can get popular/adopted by all kind of people.
2813  Economy / Economics / Re: Fashion Brands uses Blockchain Technology on: July 17, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
It sounds positive, but I did not find a description of the process itself, which will ensure the "immunity" of original things from a high-quality fake. He had experience in implementations in the luxury fashion segment, it turned out that there is also a "black market" where high-quality fakes are made. Buyers showed examples of such fakes, it is actually impossible to distinguish them without being a high-class specialist. From fabric to accessories and seams, including markings and packaging - they fake it perfectly!
The only option is to save some data and somehow identify the buyer who bought this product. But this applies to single things, with a circulation of 1-3-5 things for the whole world. What if it's a mass product?
I think people who buy the fake ones do not really mind that. My wife for example ends up buying high quality fake brand stuff time to time, but also real ones as well. I asked her what's the difference, why not pick all fake ones or all real ones and just go one that one this? And she said it is based on the product.

Like let's say you are buying a bag for the summer to take to the beach, that's something you will use maybe 10 times a year at max, get a fake one, but you are buying a shirt to go with the jean, hence you will wear a lot? Go with the real one. So blockchain or not, people who will pick the fake ones will always go for the fake ones, and blockchain wouldn't stop that.
2814  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Bitcoin manage to grow over time? on: July 17, 2022, 06:30:35 PM
In the given list the most important factors that I consider as a threat to bitcoin are the cost of production and regulation.
I wouldn't say media coverage because in this world of internet almost everyone is socially connected and the news are spread instantly across the globe.
Whether it be a positive or negative news the coverage is across the globe.
On the other hand the cost of production and regulation are real threats to bitcoin which causes a correction every time it impacts bitcoin.
All the other factors drives the price of bitcoin upwards.
Regulation is not really a threat to bitcoin. Regulation is not put to bitcoin itself, it's always put to you, the user. Which means that whenever it's put somewhere, the other place doesn't have it. So, let's say they ban mining in Europe, it's still allowed in Asia or USA for example. This is why it's decentralized and why it's liked, because you can't ban everything all at once all around the world here.

FED goes out and says they increase the rate, and suddenly the dollar value increases all over the world, all due to one government organization said something. Bitcoin doesn't have that, no matter what one nation does, the other doesn't have that and that's how it works so well for us.
2815  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin limit supply on: July 17, 2022, 03:09:03 PM
There are millions of Satoshi in one Bitcoin and are in bits so even if the total 21 million Bitcoinhase been mined, the total buts will only increase in price which gives Bitcoin an infinite total supply. But you should also understand that Bitcoin, if the demand increase so the scarcity will inflate the price.
This is where the laws of economics apply. with the increasing scarcity of bitcoins to be traded while demand increases, it will further increase the price, and of course this limited supply I think will only affect the price, and of course crypto currency is not only bitcoin. and of course if developments are in accordance with our vision for the future, then we are very suitable for investing, as many people are doing today.
It’s not always like that though. I mean for bitcoin it has been like that and it will stay like that for sure, but not everything in life. Sometimes, when there is a product that is debatable to be a valuable thing, and then some hardcore collectionists end up getting most of it, the remainder are not valuable because nobody wants it, and that’s when the price goes down a lot.

Bitcoin is not like that though, it is definitely something we all like, and will continue to like, and that is why it’s one of the best things ever for us. All in all, I have to say that the limited supply of bitcoin makes it the good thing, because printing more and more doesn't work, we have seen that in fiat.
2816  Economy / Economics / Re: Cooperative investing between small investors on: July 16, 2022, 03:34:54 PM
I can only tell you what i know and what we have to do in point in time. Investment that you invest with companies do come with alot of complications and trouble from the company. If you want to enjoy investment of cryptocurrency put your hands together and invest personally, hoping for company investment in cryptocurrency, some times it will end up with scam and you lose your cryptocurrency investment, before you can see a cryptocurrency investment now that is legit is very deadly and i don't the fuck companies
This is quite true. I mean if you are expecting a news for your currency to go up, then you have invested into the wrong thing. There shouldn't be anyone else that helps you, because everyone will try to get what they have, and nothing more.

So if we all got together, there will be some people willing to wait longer, and some people will just say "screw everyone else, I want profit!" and ruin the plan. That’s how the pump and dump works as well, some people make a little profit and get out right away, blocking everyone else to make more profit, and they just end up with small profit that caused everyone to lose. Hence, why this idea would never work at all.
2817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Luna Classic - Thoughts? on: July 16, 2022, 03:04:42 PM
I guess the gamble will not pay off, until now the prices is nowhere near what it is expected to be and I doubt that it will even recover even if we are in the bull market. I mean the damage is really deep that it's hard for the project to just bounce back and forget what just happen. Maybe people lost a lot of money in this, putting a lot of trust but unfortunately, mismanagement and other factors contributed to the downfall which can be avoidable if just the people behind anticipated it. Sadly they don't so how you are going to trust them again? even investing $1 is not worth in my opinion.
It will of course not pay off. I mean people who think that there is even a small chance that it would pay off will be wrong. I personally believe that we shouldn't be doing anything that works nice enough. What we need to do however is to make sure that people know what they are doing and that’s how they would be making a profit, outside of Luna.

This doesn't mean that Luna is impossible to profit from, of course it could profit, but that potential is very slim, and why risk that much for such a little gain? I think investing into something like BNB and waiting for it to finally peak to 1k dollar would be a lot better, why not prefer something like that?
2818  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Get your coins out of Coinify ASAP on: July 16, 2022, 02:03:04 PM
It is possible but under the current circumstances it is better to not take an unnecessary risk, if anyone has some money in that exchange then it is time to get that money out of it, maybe nothing happens and the exchange keeps working as usual for a very long time, but no one with money at that exchange can afford to take the risk of the worst case scenario happening and then lose access to their coins for who knows how long.
I can't say much about the situation and what's going to happen, but I can say that it's definitely something that we would all be crazy about if it isn't allowed and people are right to be mad about it, and if they could "somehow" take it out, they should.

I mean even if it could continue to operate, and there is no operational problems and you could withdraw normally, it's still normal to expect people to withdraw after hearing such a news, it's not a shock. I believe if they are claiming to be bankrupted, then they are probably getting ready for something like this to happen in response as well, that shouldn't be really a weird situation for them at all.
2819  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Whitepaper says "We" on: July 16, 2022, 01:29:41 PM
From my point of view, I think that the use of the expression "we" was an orientalist vision of the future by Satoshi, I mean that he believed that his program would turn into a universal formula accepted by everyone and working to develop it, so the word "we" may mean anyone who comes in the future who pursues the mission that has begun By Satoshi until Bitcoin turns into the formula Satoshi always dreamed of. Here we are already witnessing the realization of this future vision, where we find thousands and millions of people believe in Bitcoin and are constantly working to develop it to reach the goal for which it was created.
This is the case for sure. He/She believed that it was something that we will do as a whole, as a group, and not something that people would do alone. It means that it wouldn't really be something he achieved himself, it would be a group effort. I mean let's face it, he created it but that's about it and nothing else. Would bitcoin be this great if other people didn't pick up on it and started to care for it? Of course not.

This is the situation at hand and this is how we should approach it. I believe that we are not doing something that satoshi created, we are responsible for it, we all are, every single one of us that ever did anything in crypto. We are all responsible for it.
2820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Saylor thinks ETH post-merge on Proof-of-Stake is a security. on: July 16, 2022, 01:08:33 PM
Saylor thinks ETH post-merge on Proof-of-Stake is a security.

I think Saylor's a lil jelly tbh.

Thoughts?
I don't know how the idea comes to mind, but that's just ridiculous just because Ethereum moving to PoS, wont make ETH become security. ETH still has utility and people are still using ETH on the Ethereum smart contract, thus make it commodity. It's not just a piece of paper that says you own something.
Basically Saylor has invested a ton into bitcoin, hence why he would like to see bitcoin being the best ever and nothing else getting closer. Looking at the previous bull run, we could say that there was a good case to be made about ETH getting way too close during the bull run.

This means if we have ETH 2.0 and proof of stake there, and if we have a bull run at the same time, there could be a ton of money going into ETH, not saying it will be at the top and take bitcoins place, but it would go up a lot. This means that some money that could have gone to bitcoin and make Saylor richer, would end up in ETH and he doesn't want that to happen right now.
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