i'm all about making a profit but what ive noticed is outright greed i know it isnt illegal to turn a profit but still feels wrong to make 300% off someone like some of these guys do selling asics on ebay etc even more then that what are you guys take on it
If it pisses you off, you can report each listing to eBay, as they don't allow the sale of bitcoin related products.  They don't allow the sale of Bitcoins. Or any other virtual currency (like WoW Gold, EVE ISK, etc). Not Bitcoin related products. Are they going to ban ATI graphics cards? USB hubs? No, they aren't, and they're Bitcoin related products. Get your facts straight.  They don't allow the sale of bitcoins? Did they miss the first 700+ offers? http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=bitcoins&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC2.A0.Xbitcoin&_nkw=bitcoin&_sacat=0 |
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Seriously guys, I'd advise you move on. No legitimate business to be found here. Lots of ways to make bitcoins without resorting to this kind of scheme.
Well, to be fair, OP cannot possibly scam the people interested. He's sending the money. However, people interested should be more concerned as to why OP is doing this. He more than likely wants to build rep in order to do a scam sometime in the future. |
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I don't think 2000 posts is possible if there is a 6 min wait in between posts
This is only a restriction for newbies and jr members. I think everyone has a restriction. Mine is 48 seconds. |
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file sharing has not ended movie rentals
iTunes has not ended CD sales
email has not ended the post office.
True. But currency is very different from those examples. It is the most important commodity. There won't be two somewhat equally used forms of currency around, like with CDs and iTunes. There will either be one or the other. And email won't end the post office. You can't email a package. |
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Loan Amount: 0.5 btc
Duration: 2 week min./3 week max
Rate: To Be Agreed
Reason: Tell me your reason for loan.
Why is your very first post you giving a loan? |
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Interestingly most of them are Jr. Members  Go figure! And a donator/hero. Shows that you shouldn't go by post count. |
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That's why I believe in the majority. It makes no sense whatsoever to give the minority what they want. 51% seems ridiculous. But it's more ridiculous to go with the 49%.
Building debate and delay in and create laws based on principle rather than specific instance help this. Most of the time 99.999% are opposed to murder. But then there is a gameshow host that makes some truly disgusting comments and 51% of the people want him dead. Fortunately, the laws aren't about that person. That person is protected by what the majority believes despite the momentary madness of the crowds: that killing someone who hasn't hurt anyone is wrong. Even so, it will take months if not years of debate and the authoring of legislation for the murder laws to be changed to accommodate the hatred of this one person. In that time, cooler heads ought to prevail and people are likely to realize that it goes against their values to make an exception to the murder laws because of something that was said on a game show. I'm not saying it is impossible for the majority to exert tyranny over the minority but with checks and balances, the passage of time, and the enshrinement of people's rights into the law (which will come because the majority supports it) the risk of such a '51% attack' on a system of laws becomes much lower than with direct democracy. I wouldn't want laws to come into play instantly. I still want a process for them to come into place. I just want a system where the majority rules. I don't think it's fair that the minority should have their way. Why do they get their way and the majority doesn't? In the example you gave, I don't believe that 51% of the people would truly believe that the host should be put to death. Many people would be angry. Maybe some would want his show put off the air, or even to imprison him. But the majority of people do not want to put someone to death for something trivial like that. |
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I don't know who that is but I tried for a month to get a known criminal tagged and was told by JohnK that the scammer tag is no longer employed.
Who was it? Rondini (or joeyjmr8484) got it pretty quickly. Of course, Joey didn't even dispute the claim that he was a scammer... |
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I completely understand your position and thank you for understanding mine.
Not possible for governments to control crypto?
Wanna bet?
How about the USA govt or any govt anyplace on the planet decides that since crypto cannot be controlled, crypto simply gets shut down?
The USA feds have a strong history of domain seizure and any or all of the exchanges and the sites of the cryptocurrencies themselves could be shout down literally by the push of a button and the right software. They have done it already (See Megaupload for example) and as soon as they figure out that there is no real way to tax crypto, they will hammer away at it until there is.
The NSA could use Narus software to track down every miner on the planet if they haven't already.
Crypto was designed and intended to be an essentially underground economic system and should remain that way.
My $.02.
Anything is possible. But I don't this this statement is accurate. " Crypto was designed and intended to be an essentially underground economic system" This is something I agree with. Bitcoin is supposed to be the economic system some day. |
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You need money to sell something?
No, I got scammed on BTCjam. And I am currently trying to sell that loan...BTCjam lets you put up a note to try to sell the debt. Well anyway I was expecting that BTC back and I got missed payments on that loan. I then looked the person up and found out he was a scammer. So, what are you trying to say here? You're expecting the money back so you're going to pay it forward by scamming someone on this forum?  No, I am not expecting it back. I just need a little help until I get paid. Take him to small claims court. That would be counter-intuitive, as moomery is joey. |
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just read 22 oages of this thread now. it started with so much promise but unfortunately it has no end! why are people going round there! so many threats but all seem empty  Yeah sadly it seems like most people making threats are full of bs. To be honest trying to talk sense into him the easy way doesn't work so unless someone teaches him a lesson nothing will happen and posts on the lending subform will be full of scammers or joey asking for money under multiple alts. Suing him would be the ultimate lesson. No one's given me a good reason as to why they haven't, other then it's too little an amount to be worth it. Not too little to waste time and gas money sending him pizzas... In a lot of jurisdictions in the United States small claims courts award triple damages. The problem would be collecting from an unrepentant deadbeat. Honestly that would probably expose someone to less risk than sending the unpaid pizzas. They can always seize property, like his computer. |
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Is there any benefit to having an older junior member account? I mean, there HAS to be a reason besides just straight up scams, right?
There is no other benefit. |
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I just looked at this guy's most recent posts... Pretty much every one is a scam, unless he's posting pictures of fried cats (really cool  ). |
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just read 22 oages of this thread now. it started with so much promise but unfortunately it has no end! why are people going round there! so many threats but all seem empty Yeah sadly it seems like most people making threats are full of bs. To be honest trying to talk sense into him the easy way doesn't work so unless someone teaches him a lesson nothing will happen and posts on the lending subform will be full of scammers or joey asking for money under multiple alts. Suing him would be the ultimate lesson. No one's given me a good reason as to why they haven't, other then it's too little an amount to be worth it. Not too little to waste time and gas money sending him pizzas... If someone would make a gambling loan for the LuLz, why not sue him in small claims too. You can do it for $100 I'm sure. The only thing is, how bitcoin works in small claims court. Well, it's defined as a security. It would be like if someone scammed you out of stock. I don't see how it wouldn't work. |
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Just thought I'd point this out: before you even see the trademark TY, he always says "Was told to come on here to look for loan". He says the same thing on the thread where he's trying to sell joey debt. I was told I can come here for help with this. |
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just read 22 oages of this thread now. it started with so much promise but unfortunately it has no end! why are people going round there! so many threats but all seem empty Yeah sadly it seems like most people making threats are full of bs. To be honest trying to talk sense into him the easy way doesn't work so unless someone teaches him a lesson nothing will happen and posts on the lending subform will be full of scammers or joey asking for money under multiple alts. Suing him would be the ultimate lesson. No one's given me a good reason as to why they haven't, other then it's too little an amount to be worth it. Not too little to waste time and gas money sending him pizzas... |
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Is the average price weighted to the volume traded?
For instance, if Mt. Gox sells BTC for 105 and they trade 40% of the sales, and Bitstamp sells BTC for 90 with 60% of sales, is the "average" closer to 90 then 105?
Never mind, I should have read the OP more...
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You have very negative feedback. And all your sent is negative too, not to mention vulgar. Why should someone trade with you?
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But in the actual population, there is a greater difference between the lowest and the highest. In your example, the second set of numbers is the bitcointalk population, correct? You're wrong to assume that there is a "1" here or a "49". The smartest person on Earth and the dumbest are not on these forums. Bitcointalk is more "average" than the entire population, simply because it will lack extremes. It would make more sense to not include the 1 and 49. Instead the set should be 4, 9, 25, 36 which has a deviation of 14.71 (rounded). Of course, these are just random numbers, and that's not how the actual population is distributed. But you should still see the main point of how bitcointalk cannot possibly have a greater difference between the highest and lowest than any other population.
I don't think you understand what standard deviation means. It is not the difference between the minimum and maximum values. It is simply a measure of the average variance from the mean. A random sample of a population will theoretically have exactly the same standard deviation as the population, even though it will have a smaller range between the minimum and maximum, since you're removing just as many near-average members as extreme ones, so it balances out. But this forum is not a random sample. Nor does it require the smartest and dumbest people on the planet in order to have a higher standard deviation than average. A higher standard deviation just means there is more variation than average, not that the variation is the greatest range possible. I think I do understand what standard deviation is... After all, somehow I was able to calculate it. Let's say you have this set of numbers, which represents IQ in the total population. You have someone who's braindead, a bunch of people in the middle, and a genius. 1, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 300 There is a big difference between the highest and lowest. The mean is 116.375 and the deviation is 84.14. The overall difference is obviously 299. Take Bitcointalk. We have no genius, and no idiot. 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, 130 The average drops to 105. The deviation drops to 18.70. Let's say bitcointalk has an idiot, and has a genius. But they cannot possibly be the dumbest or the smartest in the total population. This is a sample. 2, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 299 Average is 116.375 and the deviation is 83.63. It is a tiny bit lower. The difference is 297 instead of 299. The average is the same, but the deviation is lower. Standard deviation is obviously going to be lower when you have less of a range. And bitcointalk cannot possibly have a lower range of values than the population. That is impossible. Any sample, whether its bitcointalk, NASA, your town, whatever will always have a lower deviation than the general population. Your mistake was assuming that the dumbest person and the smartest are on this forum. They aren't. |
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