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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Is Telegram the new measure of ICO success? on: April 21, 2018, 06:50:04 PM
I still take a look at the good old social media too.
I mean yes telegram made its way into it but you can't go wrong with checking the activity of a coins followers. Followers of a coin makes more sense for calculating than the coin itself.

I check twitter, instagram, facebook, reddit, telegram and basically a lot of topics about them here. If the developers are too active compared to the followers than it means there is some chance of it being not so well. If the followers are fanatic and write many stuff everywhere and plenty of activity than it means the coin has a chance of success.
382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Strategy to invest in crypto ? on: April 21, 2018, 06:10:11 PM
The main strategy of investing in ICO intense study of the ICO, do not invest all that you have into one ICO and invest only what you can afford to loose.
The best one I heard was this guy who spent about 100$ each month. He gave an order to withdraw 100$ from his credit card on some exchange I forgot which one. That way he put up 100 a month and after certain time he had way more than he invested for it. He didn't cared what the price was, he didn't traded buy-low he just purchased it no matter what.

When bitcoin hit its peak in December he kept investing and when it dropped he kept investing. He was up incredible amounts last time I checked, definitely a great strategy to invest.
383  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin must come back to its original use - currency ! on: April 21, 2018, 05:25:37 PM
We don't know exactly and how long it will take to reach its original value but there are many factors to be considered. Surely one day Bitcoin will hit back to its original value where it was before, but the market cap should increase.

It is not really about the value I am talking about but about its real use as the title also says the same.

However, this is also good thought that we will surely get to original value or something more stable than what we are experiencing right now. I just wanted to see that bitcoin be the currency and it should have been in other dimension by now. I mean all the banking needs being shared with the crypto currencies and vice versa. Gotta say that would have the different world really.
The real usage was to be a P2P currency without a third party and based on demand for it, as long as you are pleased with the value you are getting it from me, then so be it. Nevertheless, I feel we are asking for too much at this stage.

We are in the pre growth phase as far as I am concerned, and you really would not expect everyone to just see bitcoin as a currency when indeed a lot of people are busy looking for ways to get rich which is why we have weak hands in the market and until when we have a cap with those who believe in the real value making use of it, then there is no way we would not keep having that.
384  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is the world economy is sliding down? And how bitcoin may help it? on: April 21, 2018, 04:42:27 AM
Well, the chances that bitcoin completely replaces fiat are low, however the time will come that for some people, probably people like us, bitcoin will be able to replace fiat to some point even to the point that will never have to use fiat again, and that is powerful, because bitcoin has the real potential of becoming a currency accepted all over the world.
And the chances that when we get to see the world economy crumbling, people will tend to see bitcoin as a safe haven eventually is high which explains what is going on in Zimbabwe and Venezuela. The potential is huge and the fact that it is decentralized makes it even more enticing.

Yeah, I would not say it is going to be replacing fiat as governments would not allow that, but at least, for those who are smart enough, they will understand how bitcoin is really going to be helping in a huge way.
385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: investing more than 10k worth it? on: April 20, 2018, 06:03:35 PM
Does the investment in the krypto currency should have more than $ 10,000? I think we can invest by having less than $ 10,000. I have $ 2500 and I invested it by buying tokens.
The thing here is we keep calling certain amount. I am sure some people may not even afford to invest $100, let alone $10000. Anyone investing such an amount of money should definitely have a lot of spare money or must be at least very much bucked up to be able to invest such.

I would not expect someone to even think of borrowing a loan like the OP mentioned to invest such an amount. It may pay off nice, but it is a lot of huge risk to take considering the state of the market. The most important thing is to never go above what you cannot afford. That should always be the first rule!
386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Are the Green Days back ? on: April 20, 2018, 04:29:56 PM
The crypto market has risen so beautifully five days ago. Now also coin the current prices are fixed. I believe there will be a great rise in a day or two
It is good to actually see the altcoins bouncing really well these days and that is really a good thing for the crypto world.
At least, from the way things are now it seems the green days are actually beginning to turn up gradually as we start seeing some little bit of break out for some of the alts.

I hope this is going to last and if we can get to see bitcoin consolidate for a while, that would really be a good one for the alts as we will start getting to see some pretty good pumps in a short period of time.
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SAVEDROID IS SCAM or NOT? on: April 20, 2018, 02:55:04 PM
Invested a lot of time and effort promoting Savedroid. It's really sad how that time would never be paid off. Also to the thousands of investors who got ripped off. If ever this goes to the headlines then crypto will then again have a bad name.
Sorry mate, shit happens and we have all been there before one way or the other.
I remembered when similar incident happened with Confido with the dev dropping a note of being pursued by the government and how is going to be on the run for the mean time or simply forever, which leaves all the investors screwed bag holding the token, a lot of us really expected so much from it as well.

The thing is that sometimes, things like this may be hard to spot, but since a lot of people have been saying they got hacked, let's just hope it ends up being that.
388  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anticipation from the future ? on: April 20, 2018, 02:21:54 PM
If countries will put a tax over crypto transactions then there will be legal..
Till then if they don't have some laws regarding crypto transactions, they will try to ban them, or make the transaction difficult to people.
Since the prices are set by speculations and prediction which are way too optimistic about the technology. I guess Bitcoin will be a technology that will lead the world economically and will offer limitless possibilities. It will even change the market structure and will the banking system. The exchange rate will also be determined using by looking at the advancement of Bitcoin.
In response to what Olivian said, taxation is not going to affect anything and it is not like this is not already going on in some places. People will only end up adapting to how the system changes with regulation but that does not change exactly the value that makes the idea of cryptocurrency tick in the first place. As long as we keep transacting, exchanges are in place and people still see the need to use cryptocurrency, we are only going to be moving higher. Taxation could be avoided when people start transacting within them. Yes, for p2p transaction will give the actual meaning of innovation of bitcoin like cryptos.
389  Economy / Speculation / Re: 3 Reasons why Bitcoin is Going Up! on: April 20, 2018, 01:42:00 PM
Yahoo is getting involved now? Waiting for the day my local mom and pop shop gets involved (not just accepting but actively trading), that is the day I do the infamous pull out method. Big companies like Yahoo are okay but imo you should be worried when every Tom, Dick, and Harry is trying to get a piece.

We need both small and large countries to be get involved with bitcoins. Its not only about the big companies. Just like Fiat, Bitcoin has to be adopted by each and every shop & corner of the world. Only then we can see only positive movements of bitcoins and there will be no dump etc.
Yeah, it is really about large scale adoption and once we have some particular interest joining the world without being limited by religion, government or anything, I feel that should really be a good one for the community. I am not even particular about what could have caused the pump as no one really knows, but the news in itself is actually not a bad one and can bring some positive vibe as well for more demand.

It may actually be a good driver considering some speculators or traders may think that should cause some new set of investors into investing in the market which we can call new money. I really do not want to believe this would really have caused that huge impact which seems to have been stopped right now in the $8300 region. It is not what caused this that we should be focused on now, it is the way forward. Can this be maintained or was it just a quick pump that sends us back down soon?
390  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do you want high price of bitcoin after all? on: April 19, 2018, 05:04:59 PM
At first I want to say: Read my post carefully and don't spam.
We all wanted high price, higher than 1000$ and got it, we got even 19k and there people were hoping more than 20K, they think like it's infinitive.
Did so high price do a good job? No, higher satoshi/byte fees became even higher in value because of price rise, some exchangers closed registration and etc. In reality there was no need of 19k but I think currently it's best to see price between 5000-8000$. There isn't so much demand.
You want high price to get much from holding? Seems you hang on bitcoin and are only selfish.
Reason is  because most of us that are into this business are very selfish and greedy. Well, who wants to make loss even if it’s just a $1? Nobody does. But we all should learn to do things in a way that it will favor the community and help us to go further than falling back. Yes we all wanted just $1000 and we did got it. I  can even remember that we once wanted just $500, and we got it before proceeding to $1000.  When we got to the rate of $1000 there are people who happened to invest at that price rate and they also wanted the price to go up, especially those whales who are used to manipulating the marketing and stealing away huge amounts of money. There is no way you can stop it, it either falls or rise.
391  Economy / Economics / Re: Digital Money = Cashless Society on: April 19, 2018, 04:29:25 PM
The absence of cash will encourage the barter system, and as every well educated human being knows the natural evolution of a barter system results in a commodity-based currency which eventually will be gold and/or silver! A cashless society will kill the fiat paper system.
There would be a conflict when that happens, it would be hard to calculate economy and everything so I think that we are not yet ready enough to have a cashless society unless all country will unite as one in favoring this thing which I think would not happen, let us see in the future if it would be possible.
I think it is not that complicated if we will see a country that will become cashless because cashless society is a good step for a country to show that they will be going to be more advanced since cashless society will stop them from printing money and they can just use the blockchain technology so they can easily scan some transactions online.
Well, we can say that cash itself is gradually becoming extinct but not to a large extent yet. Also, in some places where there may really be some limitation to technology and internet, having a cashless society is really going to be hard. I believe the developed worlds are going to always be the ones to always get this in play first, looking at the way most places in the developed world are already going cashless and most of the people who are vast with the internet hardly carry cash around. With digital currencies evolving more and more, I am sure it would even get better.
392  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Newbie in crypto trading, whelp! Bot or human? on: April 19, 2018, 11:39:59 AM
In my opinion , the bot is not good enough for trading, or else the bot will not be sold to you. They can keep the bot to make money for themselves.
I have never even liked bots most of the time. The only thing that makes bot different from humans is just that they only do what they are programmed to do without any discretion or emotions, and they can keep running 247 nonstop since this is a market that does not sleep.

Nevertheless, any human who is knowledgeable to trade the market will always do it better and that is what I believe. There are articles online to always help, people are always just lazy to learn and for anyone who is lazy to learn, it is just better to hold than trying to gamble their position in the market.
393  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mistakes when trade coin on: April 19, 2018, 08:56:26 AM
The worst mistake that a bitcoin trader is the lack of knowledge and out of greedy for unjust gain they are loosing their investment just before they got some more profits. To avoid such mistake it is advised that one should gain knowledge before going into trading.
In fact, such mistakes are very common in trading strategies in the crypto market. In fact, we do not control the process and the difficulty to know the proper time to sell. The psychology of business people is the problem of profit.
One thing with most people in trading is mainly because they never learned to even know the right time to buy, let alone when to even sell and they end up getting to emotionally greedy either waiting for the best moment, either lower to buy more or higher to sell and all they do is gamble their position in the market. The first state is never to get greedy.

It is always better to make those few profits than to be waiting for a big one and then end up losing everything and entering loss at the end of the day. As long as you get the signals to sell, or there is an overbought market to the extreme, just sell.
394  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The consequences of gambling on: April 19, 2018, 07:44:57 AM
I'm not a gambler addict and I just did try playing hi-lo betting sites but I already felt all those consequences and it's really the worst feeling when you lost. I tried to recover my losses but I still lost. That feeling stayed in me for 2 weeks. It's really makes me very weak.
It made you extremely weak because you ended up deceiving yourself into the idea you are going to get lucky with your gambling and rather hit it big than you owning up to your action and accepting that the path you are about to take, is actually the path that most of the time, you are going to be losing a whole lot.

It is normal to always that kind of feelings when you are looking for so much from gambling and you should be lucky you are beginning to realize that now before it ends up too late.
395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you still continue? on: April 19, 2018, 07:10:45 AM
I think we should not lose fully in the gambling and the gambling is a good way that we are the people who want to do again and again so this is the good way to do gambling in life because for this we have to win so with a good surprise for us is the members of gambling who came from different areas and gambling business is increasing day by day so if we just do it for the fun that's fine but if we are addicted to gambling so this will be a savior problem and it is a good entertainment option.

Gambling is good to just release stress and using only money that you can afford to lose and not as a way to earn a living.
Exactly, we cannot use gambling as our source of income, there is no assurance with gambling and we cannot exactly tell if we are going to win or not. Some people are making gambling to release stress but some are not. We cannot say that gambling can actually release our stress. It is up to us or a person if gambling can really release our stress or not.
Gambling should never even be considered as a source of income. Do that and you set yourself into some deep shit for life which is always so sticky and hard to get out from. (Sorry for using the words that way but that is how I see addiction). Releasing stress is something you really cannot get except maybe you are able to fixate your mind to the idea of just gambling for fun with the little you have while knowing you can lose everything and still going ahead anyway without overshooting your budget, but anything outside that is trouble.
396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Criteria of a good gambler on: April 17, 2018, 05:53:08 PM
A good gambler understand 3 main concept. First is that they play the correct game. Second is their probability of winning each bet, and third is the risk-reward of their bet. In order to make money in the long run, good gamblers understand which games to play and which to avoid. After that, the hone their skills. Simply put, the risk reward for their bet must justify its probability of winning.
I agree with your point that good gamblers will pick the right games,because some games have the probability of 50/50 and some games have the chance of 1/10,so if you pick the right games then he can increase the winning percentage.Mostly the slot and roulette games like have the low chance of winning.
mainly skill-based gambling would be the answer if the gambler aiming for profits. Since the outcome of the games, it could be researched and predicted. Unlike other types of gambling which the outcome is uncertain.
I think that's also the case with anything that concerns with gambling. it could be researched but you cannot predict what the future holds. Probably your skills would predict if it is as skilled game.
What is anyone even researching in gambling ? This is not trading, investment or business that you will need to do some feasibility studies on, they call it gambling because it is just a game of luck and nothing else.

A lot of people just keep reading huge meanings into gambling and this is the main reason they always end up getting screwed before they could even know it. As long as you understand that gambling is just a game which you can lose a lot of money, they you will understand that there is really nothing attached to it, and maybe you can be classified not actually as a good gambler but a reasonable gambler.
397  Economy / Speculation / Re: New pump? on: April 17, 2018, 05:02:26 PM
The pumps are fun and exciting for those who hold bitcoins, and this is well marked for the bitcoin price increase for even higher.
Obviously it was worth seeing some move in the market and that move really generated a lot of questions anyway as to what could have happened which could have caused such a pump as huge as that. I am not expecting a whole lot though, considering how the market has been behaving in the past, but I am still very optimistic about a very strong market and bullish in the long term.

Do you think it is a new pump and soon bitcoin will cost 20000$ again?
Yes, every big things are happening from very little thing. We can be sure about seeing $20k levels within this year itself. There will be no need of any big thing to happen for that but just new investors alone will be capable of making that possible in coming months. For that, this recovery could be a seed.
398  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good buying price for bitcoin? on: April 17, 2018, 11:05:18 AM
Right now the value of Bitcoin is around 8k US dollars. If you ask me it is the right and the best time if you are just starting to invest or thinking about investing into Bitcoin. The price will definitely rebound later this year or next year for sure. Right now it is an exact uncertainty when will bitcoin will rise but definitely it will. Just hold the bitcoins that you've got wait and be patient, don't panic sell it and you'll be fine with all of it and profit will come to you.
Few weeks ago, we had the price of bitcoin below $7k and it still amuses me when people ask when to buy like someone can really see the future to know what is going to be happening next. If anyone needs to know when to buy, maybe they should go join the whales club or something, since they have an upper hand in the market, and they control the situation of things, so in that case, they can easily know when to buy, but asking us is more like trying to ask us to play the guess game. Just buy whenever you can as long as you understand what you are getting into.
399  Economy / Economics / Re: its not about how much you invested, its when you should invest? on: April 17, 2018, 08:48:15 AM
both the things that is investing the right amount of money and that investing at the right time is equally important and if you want to make something profitable, then you must deal the things in the best possible manner.
There is never a wrong time for an investor who knew exactly where he invested into and actually decided to invest long. Everyone investor should have been able to understand before investing and to have known how volatile the market is and that would have helped them to inform their decision and not get greedy while making such a decision. However, it is what it is, and everyone have a part to play in every market.

if someone had investment in 2017 and had couple of dollars investment then also it stays the same as the timing was completely wrong not the volume itself. Thats the main point here, its obvious thing also.
Timing may be seeing wrong as of now but definitely not for ever. I mean things will change over the course of time and bitcoin prices may reach to million dollar levels too. But how much you have invested and how many bitcoins you have is the final thing which will be deciding your level of richness.
400  Economy / Economics / Re: Is fall of bitcoin from 16k$ good for bitcoin and alt-crypto? on: April 17, 2018, 08:14:47 AM
We think also what would be the effect if bitcoin will continuously go higher, do you think that there will try to invest it with that amount? I think there's no one, that's why we thank you for that downtrend of bitcoin cause it gives chances for small capital investors to take part of it and the market are continuously moving. Up and down movements is very important in all investment cause that's the way gain profit.

Im also thinking about this, will other coin also increase? I dont think other coin might pump also. Since there werw different development team working in each coins. Maybe other coin will just go along with bitcoib when dumping but be left behind when pumping. Thus, tge dev really matter in all cases.

There might be effect on other coin, but there were also coin that does not depend on bitcoin..Since bitcoin is mainly used as exxhange value in the market, tgen ut would be normal for other coin to go along in the same track of bitcoin. Most of not so established coin are the one who gets easily affected by bitcoin's price.
It is the market and for those who already understand the way this market works, you will obviously know that most times the market always move back in the same format with bitcoin. The time to always watch closely at alts is whenever there is a long consolidation going on with bitcoin.

In the cases of bull run, you should always expect the alts to bleed most of this period, but it is market, and we cannot always use history to judge, but one way or the other, it has always repeated itself. In some sense that fall of bitcoin prices from its peak levels is good to make new investors to get on board.

Yes, those who were neglecting bitcoin due to huge price levels like $15k or $20k still have understood the potential of bitcoins, must have made use of this fall as they got chances to buy more bitcoins for 1/3 cheaper prices. Same thing happened after $hitting $1200 levels in 2013. So, fluctuations gives another chances for new investors.
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