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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 05:49:24 AM
when will pos mining start? And is it 25% per month?

25% annually

PoS blocks are generated by your wallet after your coins accumulate over 20 days
382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 05:48:26 AM
Vote for Zeit on Cryptsy.
I just used up my Cryptsy points.
https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes

I just watched Zeitcoin again after watching it yesterday.
Superb movie... especially part 3!

Zeitgeist Moving Forward?
383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 05:27:19 AM
node list

Code:
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addnode=184.82.131.93
addnode=107.170.26.155
addnode=203.20.114.252
addnode=37.187.138.76
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Once the people can obtain what they need without using the government/central banks fiat, the power shift is inevitable. No big change can be successful without first working on the core issues. Money is #1. It enslaves the world and the few use it to further enslave, control and kill the many.

It's insanity that anyone who claims to be in the zg movement would be against something with this potential. We have no need for their official stamp or approval.

oh ok, thats what you mean.
i also believe its a point they need to understand, since boycotting the system is something they advocate.

dont underestimate the power of singular individuals with passion and purpose,
with the platform im creating, money wont be that much of an obstacle to get things done.
technology can free us not only from labor and imporve our lives but reduce cost aswell
specifically decentralized and distributed technology, the time of the blacksmith is going to come again (function communities)

read The Daemon by Daniel Suarez
384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 05:17:45 AM
The movies claim they want to live with no currency, no money.  The only way of getting there is to first make sure everyone has too much of it. Then it becomes meaningless automatically. This will NEVER happen as long as it's in the hands of governments and central banks. The first step is to decentralize it.


not exactly, money is only a proxy to other resources, we need to make those resource abundants, not money

I agree 100% but zeitcoin is not a resource, it's currency. Different debate entirely. One leads to the other. Any goal in life is only reached through understanding the steps toward the goal.

but zeitcoin would be obsolete in a post-scarcity environment,  we might use the blockchain technology for other purposes tho
385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 05:11:57 AM
The movies claim they want to live with no currency, no money.  The only way of getting there is to first make sure everyone has too much of it. Then it becomes meaningless automatically. This will NEVER happen as long as it's in the hands of governments and central banks. The first step is to decentralize it.


not exactly, money is only a proxy to other resources, we need to make those resource abundants, not money
386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 05:03:54 AM
The polite begging is the wrong approach to anything in life in my opinion.  If they are idiots, let them be idiots. Sooner or later most if not all of them will eventually see that crypto is a technology that isn't going anywhere and that $$$$ is needed to bring about the huge chance they claim they want.

Who among us or anyone else elected these fools to be in charge of it all anyway? I completely disagree with catering to their nonsense.

we dont need official sanction

anyone can be part of TZM without needing to ask or serve anyone

therefor we who are part of TZM who support this coin make it so that the movement supports this coin
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 04:06:58 AM
you have to understand that they dont understand what crypt-currency really means, they will see it like any other currency and associated to the problems of the current system
it needs to be presented as a technology and a way to abstain from using and feeding the current institutions, government and financial.
its a tool, a means to an end, a deliverer of power to the people

so this is wat im sending "Hi there,

Im part of the zeitcoin crypto community, im not sure if your are aware of us or not? but we are trying to make contact with as may TZM groups as possible all over the world to educate and discuss zeitcoin and what it stands for. It appears that there is mixed emotions amongst members of TZM but we find this is due to lack of understanding or knowledge about the crypto world. Please let me know if you or any memebers would be interested in engaging in talks with us. thanks"

that seem ok?

no that seem like an insult to their inteligence

haha ok what should i say? haha I havnt sent it

introduce with explanations of crypto-currency, why its not like traditional trade/money and the intent, motives and purpose of Zeitcoin
and most importantly, why TZM should use it

i would suggest going in person to a meeting, discussing it
so that you have a greater chance of reaching someone who is already aware of crypto-currency and avoid denial from a single person
388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 04:05:33 AM
you have to understand that they dont understand what crypt-currency really means, they will see it like any other currency and associated to the problems of the current system
it needs to be presented as a technology and a way to abstain from using and feeding the current institutions, government and financial.
its a tool, a means to an end, a deliverer of power to the people

so this is wat im sending "Hi there,

Im part of the zeitcoin crypto community, im not sure if your are aware of us or not? but we are trying to make contact with as may TZM groups as possible all over the world to educate and discuss zeitcoin and what it stands for. It appears that there is mixed emotions amongst members of TZM but we find this is due to lack of understanding or knowledge about the crypto world. Please let me know if you or any memebers would be interested in engaging in talks with us. thanks"

that seem ok?

no that seem like an insult to their inteligence
389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 04:03:14 AM
you have to understand that they dont understand what crypt-currency really means, they will see it like any other currency and associated to the problems of the current system
it needs to be presented as a technology and a way to abstain from using and feeding the current institutions, government and financial.
its a tool, a means to an end, a deliverer of power to the people
390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 03:56:29 AM
zeitcoin movement?

zeitcoin is meant to be a tool


i started supporting this coin because it declared itself as the cryptocoin for zeitgeist movement supporters/believers,

"we have aspirations of making this currency a form of reward/barter system in exchange for goods and services to be used by the general populous that follow and believe in the Zeitgeist Movement. We are here to challenge the current FIAT system by introducing another resource to use against the traditional model."


I am a TZM supporter first, zeitcoin is a tool and i will support it as such, there are already way to many coin community's that only serve to promote their coin.

Agree with you, and the main goal has not changed! however we do need to get zeit out there and I urge you as an active member of TZM to maybe invite some other members to this forum? or the other? so that we can discuss the best way in going about achieving our goal? personally I started crypto to make abit of cash here n there and I enjoy the risk and the game but this community has shown me that crypto is can and will be more than that and a coin like zeit is defiantly on the right path. Anonymousg64 your knowledge on TZM is a valuable source to the community so i really hope you not loosing any faith in zeit, I think we need to just pull ourselves together and hopefully more members will start put in there input soon so we can see where to go from here.  

think of TZM like anonymous, the majority and the active members defines it
that means the Zeitcoin community's primary goal in the current situation should be to bring it to their local TZM chapter and enable the members, educate them and get them started with crypto-currency.
A bottom up approach is what we need to establish trust and acceptance.

and thats what im hoping will be done with the devs going to the TZM day, hopefully they can expose members of that faction of TZM to zeitcoin and we in turn can exchange dialogue with them. Im based in the uk, southampton to be precise, I regularly go to london as well as back home which is southern Africa, so best for me would be to try find out where TZM is situated in these parts of the world and make contact? 

yes, there are chapters in almost every country, there is definitely one in london
thezeitgeistmovementuk.com/contact-us/find-your-nearest-group/
391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 03:50:47 AM
zeitcoin movement?

zeitcoin is meant to be a tool


i started supporting this coin because it declared itself as the cryptocoin for zeitgeist movement supporters/believers,

"we have aspirations of making this currency a form of reward/barter system in exchange for goods and services to be used by the general populous that follow and believe in the Zeitgeist Movement. We are here to challenge the current FIAT system by introducing another resource to use against the traditional model."


I am a TZM supporter first, zeitcoin is a tool and i will support it as such, there are already way to many coin community's that only serve to promote their coin.

Agree with you, and the main goal has not changed! however we do need to get zeit out there and I urge you as an active member of TZM to maybe invite some other members to this forum? or the other? so that we can discuss the best way in going about achieving our goal? personally I started crypto to make abit of cash here n there and I enjoy the risk and the game but this community has shown me that crypto is can and will be more than that and a coin like zeit is defiantly on the right path. Anonymousg64 your knowledge on TZM is a valuable source to the community so i really hope you not loosing any faith in zeit, I think we need to just pull ourselves together and hopefully more members will start put in there input soon so we can see where to go from here.  

think of TZM like anonymous, the majority and the active members defines it
that means the Zeitcoin community's primary goal in the current situation should be to bring it to their local TZM chapter and enable the members, educate them and get them started with crypto-currency.
A bottom up approach is what we need to establish trust and acceptance.

its pompous to expect them to come to us, we need to go to them (actual people) if we really intend to serve the TZM community as its official crypto-currency.
this is what will define us as a community, being able to reach out, have a physical presence.
392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 03:36:00 AM
zeitcoin movement?

zeitcoin is meant to be a tool


i started supporting this coin because it declared itself as the cryptocoin for zeitgeist movement supporters/believers,

"we have aspirations of making this currency a form of reward/barter system in exchange for goods and services to be used by the general populous that follow and believe in the Zeitgeist Movement. We are here to challenge the current FIAT system by introducing another resource to use against the traditional model."


I am a TZM supporter first, zeitcoin is a tool and i will support it as such, there are already way to many coin community's that only serve to promote their coin.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc


A coin with a direct purpose is what i want, charity is nice but its not a solution.

I want a crypto-community that doesn't just want to be rich.
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 03:05:52 AM
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The tremendous and still accelerating development of science and
technology has not been accompanied by an equal development in social,
economic, and political patterns...We are now...only beginning to explore the
potentialities which it offers for developments in our culture outside technology,
particularly in the social, political and economic fields. It is safe to predict
that...such social inventions as modern-type Capitalism, Fascism, and
Communism will be regarded as primitive experiments directed toward the
adjustment of modern society to modern technology
- Dr. Ralph Linton
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 03:02:32 AM
so, just throwin this out there.......

Here comes a new investor for the coin.....

Oh part of the Zeit movement....cool beans...

Oh you are not part of the movement....they don't like you?

why would I put money into something that doesn't live up to its name?


We'v establish that it doesnt matter if "they" dont, there are registered active members of the TZM community amongst us and seeing as how TZM is all about not having a "government" if you will then all that they are saying is that section of TZM currently for now not at this moment Wink dont understand our intentions! beauty of it is we dont need anyones authority to claim that we are apart of the TZM goal, if you support the cause and are active about it then thats what it all boils down to Smiley

Peter Joseph would say that everyone is in the movement, whether they like it or not.

We all want to survive, and that means we need to understand our current reality and change it to maintain our future survival.
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:23:31 AM
Are we a charity coin or are we a Zeitgeist Movement coin?

being in line with what TZM purpose is or what TZM advocates is very different.

i think we should go with enabling TZM members, not branching off into a separate community, eventually we will reach the coins goal even if we dont take the official path.
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:08:58 AM
would it be safe to say that zeit coin is faction within the true goal/idea of TZM, seeing as how our end goal is very similar and there are active TZM members within zeit coin?

I definitely think so also how can they dismiss this without direct communications? I do not understand did you read their response...

Ridiculous

I don't even have words

The Zeitgeist Movement Global
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Want to use CryptoCurrency? Go to Bitcoin. Have fun. In abstraction, it has its role. Howver, TZM has a very different focus and we need to make sure that focus is clear. There is no reason to support a Zeitgeist CrytoC. It is a waste of time, especially since there are numerous other CCs out there already. The only reason it says "Zeit" is to exploit the movement's following. Period

Ima be honest, always am, that person is a first class Pr*ck! haha its just to fishy to me! makes me almost not want to be associated with them at all and might be better. have the same goal but actually achieve something instead of just making a movie! if this coin takes off we will be miles ahead of them in terms of ultimate goal.

the movement is quite effective at activism, i wouldn't just throw that out because of some protective mindsets.

allot of work and time has gone into establishing such a broad network of supporters and coordination structures.
397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:04:16 AM
would it be safe to say that zeit coin is faction within the true goal/idea of TZM, seeing as how our end goal is very similar and there are active TZM members within zeit coin?

I definitely think so also how can they dismiss this without direct communications? I do not understand did you read their response...

Ridiculous

I don't even have words

The Zeitgeist Movement Global
Quote
Want to use CryptoCurrency? Go to Bitcoin. Have fun. In abstraction, it has its role. Howver, TZM has a very different focus and we need to make sure that focus is clear. There is no reason to support a Zeitgeist CrytoC. It is a waste of time, especially since there are numerous other CCs out there already. The only reason it says "Zeit" is to exploit the movement's following. Period

they must have received allot of emails regarding it, maybe allot suggesting they dont affiliate with it.

seeing as to how many have childish notions of evil money
398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:03:15 AM
would it be safe to say that zeit coin is faction within the true goal/idea of TZM, seeing as how our end goal is very similar and there are active TZM members within zeit coin?

the end goal will make the currency side of this coin mostly obsolete, like a single use rocket

picture a moneyless type 1 civilization, that is TZM's end goal
399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 01:47:49 AM
I would like to offer a 5 Million ZEIT for someone to create us an official Forum for us that we will integrate into our own website.

This will be our new movement headquarters where we can discuss how to utilize this crypto currency to benefit humanity.

This can be turned into a positive if we can demonstrate the value of a decentralized currency and how it can be used, we could change their mind. Even if TZM does not officially support us they can support our own initiatives to do with this coin what we wanted to do with them.

It is time to show this world what a group of dedicated people can do!

i dont see the point of creating our own movement if we have the same goals,

what we need is a platform to allow crowdfunding of TZM related projects and activity's
perhaps even a platform to manage chapter expenses and funding (in a manner that cannot be cheated)

I like this idea, am i right in saying you are an active member with TZM? saw a post by you earlier that gave a hint? if so can you explain how and why a small group speaks for so many? are they elected? because if anyone can be come involved in the TZM with no government to dictate and decide who can and who cant why cant we just claim that we are a group within the TZM and we have our owns gaols that we would like to achieve etc etc. I also just dont like the whole situation with that facebook page.

the movement has city/town chapters with elected representatives, state/province coordinators and country coordinators to organize activism and events

its suppose to be mostly bottom up, but again, they are humans and not infallible to use their position to influence members opinions

if you really want the true picture of TZM, you have to read the Zeitgeist Orientation http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/orientation
we are not necessarily defined by those with coordinator positions, the train of thought is all that matters
400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 01:39:33 AM
one more thing, this doesn't add up, TZM has a huge following right? yet scroll through the "official" facebook page and a lot of their posts barely rakc up 200likes, with an apparent 146k following thats not even 1%.....I have a feeling that its better that this coin takes its own direction and path because im not so sure on who or what is going on that side.

thats because people dont have that much patience, they want change now or nothing

allot of TZM supporters go dormant after a year because of the lack of actual progress or direction

they are all waiting for other people to actually do things and for Peter Joseph to start the global redesign institute

but you have to understand TZM main purpose, which is to bring awareness
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