ZEITCOIN (OP)
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March 06, 2014, 01:48:13 AM |
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I apologize what I meant by our own movement is not working against TZM but working withing their ideals by using this currency to move humanity forward.
A movement is simply a bunch of like minded individuals all working towards the same goal
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angryacorn
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March 06, 2014, 01:58:37 AM |
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would it be safe to say that zeit coin is faction within the true goal/idea of TZM, seeing as how our end goal is very similar and there are active TZM members within zeit coin?
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ZEITCOIN (OP)
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March 06, 2014, 01:59:09 AM |
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That is a great start thank you we will be looking into this in the next while if anyone would like to join us and officially represent us with these charities we are a community we urge you to do so.
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ZEITCOIN (OP)
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March 06, 2014, 02:01:00 AM |
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would it be safe to say that zeit coin is faction within the true goal/idea of TZM, seeing as how our end goal is very similar and there are active TZM members within zeit coin?
I definitely think so also how can they dismiss this without direct communications? I do not understand did you read their response... Ridiculous I don't even have words The Zeitgeist Movement Global Want to use CryptoCurrency? Go to Bitcoin. Have fun. In abstraction, it has its role. Howver, TZM has a very different focus and we need to make sure that focus is clear. There is no reason to support a Zeitgeist CrytoC. It is a waste of time, especially since there are numerous other CCs out there already. The only reason it says "Zeit" is to exploit the movement's following. Period
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trigeek
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March 06, 2014, 02:01:24 AM |
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What pool are ya pol on? I was on dedicated but that one issnt working atm. And scryptominers has 2% fee..
hashstrike Just a reminder too, we (hashstrike) will be 0% fees for the next 24 hours. Come back in, we're running better than ever! http://zeit.hashstrike.comYeah it's running good for me now and it looks like all my coins mined last night showed up as well! Zeitcoin: MZXkHXB66H64FukMiTJuMCDLoRK2RHvztx Not mine. Lucky you. cryptorg, PM me your pool username or email me at hashstrike at gmail dot com and I'll look into it for you.
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Anonymousg64
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March 06, 2014, 02:03:15 AM |
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would it be safe to say that zeit coin is faction within the true goal/idea of TZM, seeing as how our end goal is very similar and there are active TZM members within zeit coin?
the end goal will make the currency side of this coin mostly obsolete, like a single use rocket picture a moneyless type 1 civilization, that is TZM's end goal
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Anonymousg64
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March 06, 2014, 02:04:16 AM |
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would it be safe to say that zeit coin is faction within the true goal/idea of TZM, seeing as how our end goal is very similar and there are active TZM members within zeit coin?
I definitely think so also how can they dismiss this without direct communications? I do not understand did you read their response... Ridiculous I don't even have words The Zeitgeist Movement Global Want to use CryptoCurrency? Go to Bitcoin. Have fun. In abstraction, it has its role. Howver, TZM has a very different focus and we need to make sure that focus is clear. There is no reason to support a Zeitgeist CrytoC. It is a waste of time, especially since there are numerous other CCs out there already. The only reason it says "Zeit" is to exploit the movement's following. Period they must have received allot of emails regarding it, maybe allot suggesting they dont affiliate with it. seeing as to how many have childish notions of evil money
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ZEITCOIN (OP)
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March 06, 2014, 02:04:25 AM |
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The response I received from the global communicator from Toronto Very interesting Oh believe me, I know. I'm not too happy about how dramatic this has been made to look. I made it very clear to Peter that no one has lied - that we were in fact in discussion about you guys attending ZDay with a booth. TZM Global is saying they were never asked - so I responded that I had forwarded all the info you sent me to the core team in Toronto (of which I am a member). From there, one of my fellow core members said he forwarded it on to the global team for approval. When I asked to be looped into that email thread, he told me legally he had no obligation to do so (legally!!). And thats the last I heard about it until now. And now the global members are saying they weren't informed….
This will be the last of my participation with TZM Toronto - organizing this has been a total eye opener for me. I'm really sorry that they took your approaching us as a threat. I really think your intensions are honest and have nothing to do with fraud.
If you want you can volunteer with us and that will get you into ZDay for free and easier access to having open discussions with people about your concept. TZM using legally wtf is this movement becoming
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angryacorn
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March 06, 2014, 02:04:44 AM |
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would it be safe to say that zeit coin is faction within the true goal/idea of TZM, seeing as how our end goal is very similar and there are active TZM members within zeit coin?
I definitely think so also how can they dismiss this without direct communications? I do not understand did you read their response... Ridiculous I don't even have words The Zeitgeist Movement Global Want to use CryptoCurrency? Go to Bitcoin. Have fun. In abstraction, it has its role. Howver, TZM has a very different focus and we need to make sure that focus is clear. There is no reason to support a Zeitgeist CrytoC. It is a waste of time, especially since there are numerous other CCs out there already. The only reason it says "Zeit" is to exploit the movement's following. Period Ima be honest, always am, that person is a first class Pr*ck! haha its just to fishy to me! makes me almost not want to be associated with them at all and might be better. have the same goal but actually achieve something instead of just making a movie! if this coin takes off we will be miles ahead of them in terms of ultimate goal.
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ZEITCOIN (OP)
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March 06, 2014, 02:05:55 AM |
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Read the email response the member I was talking to said to me can you believe thats their stance Oh believe me, I know. I'm not too happy about how dramatic this has been made to look. I made it very clear to Peter that no one has lied - that we were in fact in discussion about you guys attending ZDay with a booth. TZM Global is saying they were never asked - so I responded that I had forwarded all the info you sent me to the core team in Toronto (of which I am a member). From there, one of my fellow core members said he forwarded it on to the global team for approval. When I asked to be looped into that email thread, he told me legally he had no obligation to do so (legally!!). And thats the last I heard about it until now. And now the global members are saying they weren't informed….
This will be the last of my participation with TZM Toronto - organizing this has been a total eye opener for me. I'm really sorry that they took your approaching us as a threat. I really think your intensions are honest and have nothing to do with fraud.
If you want you can volunteer with us and that will get you into ZDay for free and easier access to having open discussions with people about your concept.
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Anonymousg64
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March 06, 2014, 02:08:58 AM |
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would it be safe to say that zeit coin is faction within the true goal/idea of TZM, seeing as how our end goal is very similar and there are active TZM members within zeit coin?
I definitely think so also how can they dismiss this without direct communications? I do not understand did you read their response... Ridiculous I don't even have words The Zeitgeist Movement Global Want to use CryptoCurrency? Go to Bitcoin. Have fun. In abstraction, it has its role. Howver, TZM has a very different focus and we need to make sure that focus is clear. There is no reason to support a Zeitgeist CrytoC. It is a waste of time, especially since there are numerous other CCs out there already. The only reason it says "Zeit" is to exploit the movement's following. Period Ima be honest, always am, that person is a first class Pr*ck! haha its just to fishy to me! makes me almost not want to be associated with them at all and might be better. have the same goal but actually achieve something instead of just making a movie! if this coin takes off we will be miles ahead of them in terms of ultimate goal. the movement is quite effective at activism, i wouldn't just throw that out because of some protective mindsets. allot of work and time has gone into establishing such a broad network of supporters and coordination structures.
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stevegreer
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March 06, 2014, 02:10:18 AM |
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There seems to be a closed-mind syndrome at the global level. Just proves the point that power corrupts.
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angryacorn
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March 06, 2014, 02:13:52 AM |
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K here is my view and what I think needs to be done, We dont try to affiliate ourselves with them because frankly i dont want to be, what we do is we openly invite any members of TZM to join us and the forum we may have soon. We open and invitation to anyone who would like to understand what this crypto world is about and why zeit isnt the same as the other cryptos, we then see what views they have on where they would like to see zeit go in terms of charity etc and projects. Im not accepting this "verdict" and think that this is a positive thing because you do not want to be associated with such in fighting and miscommunication. Dev will you go to the TZM day, see if you can still find away to open a debate or have a means of discussing the possibilities with members there, dont ask them invite them to join us, if they are keen to find out more then get their details and when we have a better platform to communicate on we invite them to join our discussions. They might not accept us but we will accept them
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ZEITCOIN (OP)
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March 06, 2014, 02:16:20 AM |
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Definitely I believe you are on the perfect path That is our intentions I feel we will get alot of heat there however that is what is about.
We will be making an official forum and would be a great place to invite global members to join us and become part of our moving humanity forward initiatives.
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homey108
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March 06, 2014, 02:16:25 AM |
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I never did receive the remaining balance from hashstrike being down yesterday. I knew this would be the case when I saw that one lump payment that was miserably low.
Personally I don't think we should care too much about what some wierdo's from the "official" zeitgeist movement think. If they had any clue they would promote and welcome the coin as a source of income for furthering their agenda. The kind of stuff suggested in the films I saw would take a huge amount of coinage and political power (more $$$$).
There is absolutely no reason why they need to be only authority on zietgiest. Seems to me that cooperation and community involvement is important for something like this. If they don't have these qualities and are stuck in rigid inflexible mindsets then they are the ones doing harm towards the goals of the movement.
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Anonymousg64
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March 06, 2014, 02:23:31 AM |
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Are we a charity coin or are we a Zeitgeist Movement coin?
being in line with what TZM purpose is or what TZM advocates is very different.
i think we should go with enabling TZM members, not branching off into a separate community, eventually we will reach the coins goal even if we dont take the official path.
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ZEITCOIN (OP)
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March 06, 2014, 02:26:02 AM |
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Are we a charity coin or are we a Zeitgeist Movement coin?
being in line with what TZM purpose is or what TZM advocates is very different.
We can be both cant we we can discuss where to donate our resources to to help move humanity forward can be many things including new technologies but also feeding the poor is there really a defining line where we should stop or should we actively promote the bettering of humanity by donations considering we are a currency we can take the same approach yet utilize our core basis which is our crypto currency
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angryacorn
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March 06, 2014, 02:26:06 AM |
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There is no such thing as bad publicity. I expect that you will take heat for sure, but again invite them to join us in a debate, just say to them great we need your opinion on our forum so that our members may better understand where you are coming from! stroke egos do what you need todo but just get them here so they can see one of the best communities that exists on the crypto world.
Also in terms of the value of zeit, the way the coin is structured will make sure that it increases in value for sure, the only thing that TZM would have done was catapult it forward but then may a draw your attention to AUR and whats happening that side. Also what im realising now, from what one member said, many TZM members dont do much hense the low activity on their fb page, so if TMZ did take a better stance i feel we would have gone through a honey moon period but then shit would have hit the fan (excuse the french), however if we as a community make contacts and connections this would be way more beneficial. Its like choosing to work for someone or work for yourself, yes working for someone has its benefits but at the end of the day someone else always gets the credit and u earning someone else more money but its safer. working for yourself is high risk but the rewards are greater and no one in the crypto scene is here because they wanted to play things safe, your money was better off being spent else where if thats the case haha ZEIT FOR THE WIN
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