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381  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshidice you owe me (55.58+1.85)*12.50=$717.88 *Bounty jackpot offered on: December 02, 2012, 04:43:37 AM
Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm


I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

You don't want money?  Smiley

Btw, the draw starts when I get my 55 Balance.
So others may join

Of course I want money, but I want Stephen to have it more than me.  Wink

-- My conscience says I don't deserve them and it would be unfair to Stephen if I won them since he gave you the best answers.
382  Other / Meta / Re: I am curious, if you were to do this? on: December 02, 2012, 04:24:45 AM
If I were to now go delete enough posts so I drop below 500.
Would I immediately lose my rank of being hero member?
So If I deleted enough posts would I drop to being a newbie again?

I wouldn't think so, but does anyone know for sure?

Try it and find out for us why don't you?  Cheesy
383  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's quiet, too quiet. Especially after everyone predicted a major rocket. on: December 02, 2012, 04:21:58 AM
Wow all 2 of you are hoarding. Good job that will keep the price up.

Love the flawed logic around here. When you said "investorS" you meant 2, not like 20,000. LOL!

I think the flawed logic is you saying that we are the only two new investors.

Nice try to twist my words. Where did I say that? Link please.

LOL!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I did twist your words, but unintentionally. I'll rephrase the statement: Its not flawed logic because we are not the only two new investors.

Once again...proof?...lol

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Cheesy
384  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshidice you owe me (55.58+1.85)*12.50=$717.88 *Bounty jackpot offered on: December 02, 2012, 04:20:26 AM
Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm


I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.
385  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's quiet, too quiet. Especially after everyone predicted a major rocket. on: December 02, 2012, 04:11:36 AM
Wow all 2 of you are hoarding. Good job that will keep the price up.

Love the flawed logic around here. When you said "investorS" you meant 2, not like 20,000. LOL!

I think the flawed logic is you saying that we are the only two new investors.

Nice try to twist my words. Where did I say that? Link please.

LOL!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I did twist your words, but unintentionally. I'll rephrase the statement: Its not flawed logic because we are not the only two new investors.
386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stable Bitcoin Values = Good For Bitcoin. Value Increases / Decreases = bad on: December 02, 2012, 04:09:11 AM
(waiting for the huge price moves and then the "why did bitcoin skyrocket/crash?" threads)  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Like its been said before (was it you?), once these threads start popping up, its time for some action to happen.  Cool
387  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stable Bitcoin Values = Good For Bitcoin. Value Increases / Decreases = bad on: December 02, 2012, 03:48:40 AM
Yes.
388  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's quiet, too quiet. Especially after everyone predicted a major rocket. on: December 02, 2012, 03:41:20 AM

Thanks for showing me that  Cheesy
389  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's quiet, too quiet. Especially after everyone predicted a major rocket. on: December 02, 2012, 03:39:25 AM
Wow all 2 of you are hoarding. Good job that will keep the price up.

Love the flawed logic around here. When you said "investorS" you meant 2, not like 20,000. LOL!

I think the flawed logic is you saying that we are the only two new investors.
390  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshidice you owe me (55.58+1.85)*12.50=$717.88 *Bounty jackpot offered on: December 02, 2012, 03:31:05 AM
I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

FFS, Would you just relax.

This is not the first time this happened.  Every transaction on SatoshiDICE that is a WIN eventually gets paid.    This is provable using the blockchain.

Your transaction confirmed.  It shows WIN.  You will get paid, just not right now apparently for whatever reason.

 - http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=a2dde18101ec3485fecb0d7b717371e1a61ff2ae2dff96002cf3683bde545b30

Incidentally, double spends don't cost SatoshiDICE a thing, because even if they paid out the payout will not confirm either as it too will be a double spend.

When these situations happen with SatoshiDICE, they can take a day or two to resolve.

There's nothing you can do but wait.

This is the best answer.
391  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game on: December 02, 2012, 03:29:58 AM
Details   2012-12-02 03:11:38   lessthan 32768   3b891060   b798d3d7   1GATLxn   UNKNOWN   11.80000000   WIN   23.09210000   15620
Details   2012-12-02 01:52:58   lessthan 60000   56c86905   c1c6e98f   1EMaBMm   UNKNOWN   0.11000000   WIN   0.11731574   47996
Details   2012-12-02 01:47:35   lessthan 32768   9dd3dc17   cbcc3ce3   1PRa6Vp   UNKNOWN   0.11100000   WIN   0.21672700   19892
Details   2012-12-02 01:31:12   lessthan 12000   dda98cec   20f2ff35   1ANmugX   UNKNOWN   0.05000000   LOSE   0.00000001   40097

different people just played now on satoshdice, all new bets seem to get this now.

Evidence of double spending: http://blockchain.info/double-spends

This looks really really bad  Sad

Shut the site down ASAP!
And Fix this ASAP,
before the hole is dug too deep.

I don't think there is anything to fix, and all new transactions first appear unknown if I am correct.
392  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshidice you owe me (55.58+1.85)*12.50=$717.88 *Bounty jackpot offered on: December 02, 2012, 03:28:12 AM
http://blockchain.info/double-spends

Shows a couple of double spends involving satoshidice, but not nearly as much as I was thinking.  I'm not sure.

Ouch. I guess satoshidice can't offer the instance payout features. They will have to wait 6 confirmations.
Bitparking lost 150 Bitcoins once do to this.

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

They should cancel all little payments, and give big payments 1st priority.
Alone fulfilling all little payments could cover some big payments.

Having a thousand people lose $8 is better then 20 people losing $400 I think.
I think higher should be given priority, and should be arranged like that.

They have plenty of money to cover these losses, if they are in fact actual losses. I haven't marked off technical problem yet lol
393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: December 02, 2012, 03:25:40 AM
ya they got burnt a few weekend in a row, now the weekend dip thread doesn't even pop up anymore.  Cheesy

I noticed that lol
394  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's quiet, too quiet. Especially after everyone predicted a major rocket. on: December 02, 2012, 03:21:35 AM
It may not be the time to buy, but does that mean it is the time to sell?

Its definitely not time to sell. People hearing about bitcoin from wordpress/halving should soon have some cash flowing in. On another note, google trends is still doing well:
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin&date=1%2F2012%2012m&cmpt=q

Hoarding has kept the price high. Not new investors.



New investors hoard.

LOL okay please entertain me with your theory.

How does this work and what proof do you have that this IS the case?

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I am a new investor, and I hoard. I know someone else who just learned about bitcoin who is starting to hoard.
395  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshidice you owe me (55.58+1.85)*12.50=$717.88 *Bounty jackpot offered on: December 02, 2012, 03:14:34 AM
http://blockchain.info/double-spends

Shows a couple of double spends involving satoshidice, but not nearly as much as I was thinking.  I'm not sure.
396  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshidice you owe me (55.58+1.85)*12.50=$717.88 *Bounty jackpot offered on: December 02, 2012, 03:08:21 AM
Interesting, but I checked and I notice that from there address, they sent nothing.
Wouldn't it mean that they would have to send the winning, but
a double spend attack would make it that it doesn't reach my wallet?

Or am I getting it completely wrong?

Simple version of what I'm envisioning:

Several transactions were sent to satoshidice, but were double spent to other addresses. Satoshidice assumed it had those coins, and tried to send them to several people but couldn't.

So you are right, the coins could never reach your wallet in this scenario.
397  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshidice you owe me (55.58+1.85)*12.50=$717.88 *Bounty jackpot offered on: December 02, 2012, 02:57:21 AM
You are not the only one:
http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=UNKNOWN

I'm going to take a guess that it's just a technical problem, or part of the coins that were supposed to be your reward were double spent, so satoshidice couldn't make the payment. Some of the people have gotten a payment from satoshidice that are on that list, that have been unconfirmed for many hours, raising my suspicion. I think all you can do at this point is wait for satoshidice support.

Edit:
Example: The first transaction on the top of the list:
http://blockchain.info/tx/54a24ae9144184fa0e68c474a7f7106863a1c1a57fc77df3b162274e7b9eb9d7

Satoshidice supposedly sent the transaction many hours ago (9 hours?), and it has not been included in any blocks.

So, possibly, one of these addresses performed a double spend on satoshidice?
1MSzmVTBaaSpKDARK3VGvP8v7aCtwZ9zbw
14719bzrTyMvEPcr7ouv9R8utncL9fKJyf
1DpsR91YmHUDTtiuH1pPCuG3RqAkmg6YKB
14ChPPM8rPYJeHnw6kMVUDnNNKx1KnjYW4
18XSLnBZ8ydMUkaifU6sQBMJzmm7JvDeUp
1JmcV7G3r8k7ev2EkS84MmsvxGyhiRGP84
1HVpyjYEPwQhvRQ3dL8tGe9kiydti616sX
1HjDauL2kth6KJUz5vX198Nvp1xN1hgYRb
1PeohaRGaTF8cSzDqP1yYfzDah66xiriEQ
1L4EThM6x3Rd2PjNbs1U136FpMq4Gmo3fJ

Edit2:
The first address on the list has a ton of unconfirmed transactions to satoshidice taking place many hours ago:
http://blockchain.info/address/1MSzmVTBaaSpKDARK3VGvP8v7aCtwZ9zbw


Hold on I'm getting ahead of myself, all of these addresses belong to satoshidice.
398  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game on: December 02, 2012, 02:51:52 AM
Looks like there are some significant delays with ALL many wagers made on SatoshiDICE right now:
 - http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&status=ALL

What if they run with all the money!
Man that would suck!

I would be down $720 And can I sue them or get justice? After all
its bitcoin and I don't think justice systems would handle them well.

You're getting ahead of yourself, I think this is a technical problem/someone maybe trying to double spend against satoshidice?
399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: December 02, 2012, 02:48:48 AM
Just the usual weekend slump?

1% rise fallowed by a 1% drop, I call that stable.



Wasn't arguing against it being stable, just pondering if this 1% drop would have happened if it were not Saturday.

I believe theirs enough $ on Gox to send us sky high at any moment... news like " Government of XYZ in the process of abandoning their $ in favor of BTC " will result in an sudden spike to 30 with a 3 million dollar wall at 20  Wink

weekend dips are a thing of the past.

hubba hubba

once it becomes a 'thing' that people are aware of people prepare to buy at the same time for lower prices then it's no longer a 'thing' Tongue

I think the only reason there every was weekend dips is because people speculated that a lack of money flowing in on the weekend would mean prices would drop.

so they sold, and lo and behold prices went down on the weekends...

So you think everyone has stopped doing this?
400  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's quiet, too quiet. Especially after everyone predicted a major rocket. on: December 02, 2012, 02:47:38 AM
It may not be the time to buy, but does that mean it is the time to sell?

Its definitely not time to sell. People hearing about bitcoin from wordpress/halving should soon have some cash flowing in. On another note, google trends is still doing well:
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin&date=1%2F2012%2012m&cmpt=q

Hoarding has kept the price high. Not new investors.



New investors hoard.
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