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381  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Paylater dan Pinjol, mempermudah atau Menjebak? on: October 04, 2023, 10:16:34 AM

Kalau dilihat dari kebutuhan nya sebenarnya paylater membantu beli sekarang bayar nya bulan depan dan bunga nya juga ga besar-besar banget, umpama beli sepatu harga 100k dengan metode paylater bayar bulan depan hanya dikenakan biaya penanganan sebesar 7k. Masih wajar kalo menurut saya

Tapi kalau pinjol ini justru jebakan bisa merubah situasi hidup anda yang tadi nya damai, ceria, tenang menjadi rumit , kacau hingga serasa hancur berkeping-keping. 

Ini benar. Jadi Paylater itu meskipun ada bunganya tapi tidak begitu besar dan cukup membantu jika ada keperluan mendadak. Setahu saya fungsi paylater juga hanya sebagai pembayaran. Artinya beli barang dulu bayarnya nanti. Jadi azas manfaatnya benar-benar terasa. Bunganya juga cukup ringan. Saya pribadi menganggap bunga itu adalah laba nya si pinjol sama kayak abang-abang yang jual di tanah abang yang mengambil laba. Sedangkan kalau pinjol itu pertama bunga nya besar sekali seperti yang agan moderator jelaskan. Belum lagi biaya administrasi dan macam-macamnya. Saya pernah berjumpa dengan kawan yang minjam pinjol 500.000 setelah potong ini itu jadi 440.000 tapi bayarnya 580.000 untuk 2 bulan. Di situ saja kita bisa melihat betapa mencekiknya jeratan pinjol ini.
382  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Ironi di atas ironi on: October 04, 2023, 10:02:49 AM
Apakah memang karena kita sudah menjadi salah satu negara religius dari dulu sehingga kita sudah tidak takut lagi dengan tuhan dan menganggap bahwa ini adalah hal yang wajar? atau mungkin istilah saat ini ramai untuk muslim adalah STMJ (Shalat terus maksiat jalan)?

Disisi lain apakah memang hal ini bisa untuk diperbaiki? karena melihat dari beberapa masalah yang terjadi seperti perjudian atau korupsi sepertinya itu sudah menjadi rahasia umum dan menjadi masalah yang mendarah daging di Indonesia?

1. Istilah STMJ sebenarnya saya kira kurang relevan dan itu adalah persepsi yang keliru karena disebutkan bahwa ketika seseorang melakukan shalat maka ia akan terhindar dari maksiat. Ada banyak referensi kalau membahas ini tapi kesimpulannya adalah meskipun disebut sebagai negara yang religius tapi coba lihat disekeliling kita ada berapa banyak orang yang shalat? Mungkin lebih tepat kalau kita sebut sebagai Islam KTP sih saya kira.

2. Jawabannya bisa tapi harus dimulai dari pemerintahnya dulu, dari atasannya dulu. Saya kira kalau mulai dari diri sendiri dulu akan susah karena saya bersikap realistis aja. Coba liat berapa banyak penjudi yang memilih untuk berhenti dan yang terpaksa berhenti karena peraturan? Ada tidak orang korupsi yang bertobat lalu mengembalikan uang negara sebelum ketahuan. Yang banyak justru mengembalikan ketika sudah ketahuan, jadi saya kira pemerintah dengan hukumnya berperan cukup penting dalam hal ini.


383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 95% of NFTs have a market cap of zero on: October 03, 2023, 02:15:38 PM
Does it mean NFT is a scam sector of crypto market, or is their concept good, but the execution of the projects are wrecking everything? Is it still possible for NFTs to recover their credibility?

NFT is not a scam, because it is not something like cheating people. It's just that NFTs also shouldn't be as expensive and important as they have become. People are overhyping NFTs as the digital asset of the future and I don't agree with that. NFTs are very easy and anyone can make them. What is the value of such a thing?
384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you like Meme Coins (Pepes project)? on: October 03, 2023, 09:49:13 AM
I don't like the MEME coins, because most of them cannot live over 5-10 years.

Even meme coins won't last more than a year. People think that meme coins will be like Shiba and Doge when I can say that Shiba and Doge are exceptions and not role models for other meme coins. This is a mistake people make in judging and drawing conclusions about meme coins. Let's see how many meme coins end up being shitcoins and useless.
385  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Waspada Binance Palsu (Scam) on: October 03, 2023, 09:27:44 AM

Betul, tetanggaku malah lebih parah lagi, dia memaksa istriku untuk ikut program MLM, padahal dia tahu sendiri kalau semua itu hanya skema Ponzi, tapi tetap iya cari referensi baru supaya dia tidak kena tipu sendirian. Parahnya lagi ketika aku mengajak dia beli bitcoin, malah dia ngatain kalau crypto itulah yang skema ponzi. Aneh terkadang, yang betul-betul jelas menguntungkan dan teruji malah dikatain sekam, sedangkan sudah jelas skema ponzi malah dibilang menguntungkan. Capek kadang berdebat sama mereka ini, mending mundur teratur.

Berarti tetangga anda ada 2 kemungkinan. Pertama dianya itu sudah kenak tipu lalu karena tidak ingin hanya dia yang tertipu, diajaklah istri agan agar bisa merasakan kena tipu juga. Kedua, agan bilang meskipun dah tahu itu ponzi tapi dia tetap nyari referensi, artinya dia itu pemain. Dia mengajak istri agan agar dia mendapatkan keuntungan. Sudah jelas itu bukan sifat yang baik karena seharusnya kalo kita tahu itu bisnis adalah penipuan, maka kita pasti akan mencegah tetangga atau saudara kita untuk bergabung di bisnis tersebut.

Susah memang berdebat dengan orang seperti itu. Tapi di sisi lain kadang geram juga saya melihat kepercayaan diri mereka pada bisnis model tersebut. Biasanya kan bisnis ponzi itu bertahan dalam hitungan bulan. Dan nantinya mereka akan menhilang dengan sendirinya karena tidak mampu lagi membayar member baru. Dan sebelum hari H, kalau saya melihat orang-orang itu saya bakal geram dengan sendirinya sambil memohon agar hari H itu dipercepat saja biar mereka kapok dan sadar.
386  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BTT Perlahan Ditinggalkan? on: October 03, 2023, 09:12:27 AM

Saya bahkan merasa cukup kagum dengan para pemula yang sekarang. Mereka tidak takut salah. Mereka lebih berani dalam bertanya juga. Berbeda dengan saya dahulu yang sedikit penakut. Terkadang mau posting juga suka takut salah. Tapi karena support dan keramahan para senior disini akhirnya jadi terbiasa dan bisa menikmatinya.
Dan banyak juga ditahun 2023 ini orang-orang yang sudah tidak aktif dan aktif kembali. Dan saya rasa ini pertanda baik. Yaitu ibarat dipasar kripto yaitu menuju bullish  Grin .
Tahun lalu sangat jarang topik baru yang dibuat. Tapi kali ini banyak topik baru yang dibuat. Dan itu juga hal positif lainnya. Pertanda SFI ramai kembali. Berbeda dengan tahun lalu yang sedikit sepi. Semoga saja lebih banyak pengguna baru dan lama yang kembali ke forum. Dan saling mendukung satu sama lain.

Sekarang ini banyak sekali para senior yang sangat ramah dan support dengan member baru ataupun member lama yang mulai aktif kembali. Hal ini ibarat energi positif yang disebarkan oleh para senior. Jadinya banyak member-member SFI yang mulai bersemangat kembali melakukan postingan ataupun memulai topik pembahasan.
Penambahan sub board baru juga memberikan dampak yang positif dimana tidak ada lagi yang namanya keraguan takut topik yang dibahas akan tidak sesuai dengan board. Setiap member bisa berkesempatan menjelajahi dan beraktivitas di board mana yang dia sukai. Jadi pernyataan OP bahwa BTT mulai ditinggalkan ada benarnya jika itu bukan pada tahun 2023. Karena dulu memang pernah ada masanya keaktifan member di lokal cukup sedikit dan sejak tahun 2023 memang terlihat adanya peningkatan yang terus menerus.
387  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 02, 2023, 04:57:08 PM
There's no way the brilliance of just one player in a team will help the entire team to win a major tournament without very vital contributions from his teammates and that's I don't believe in that folklore of a player single-handedly winning a major honour. Without doubt, a player may be more influential in the performance of his team but can't just be the sole reason why his team wins tournament.
Haaland has been heavily criticized by many who thinks he's not replicating his goalscoring heroics at the club level for his country. Haaland exploits at club level I think is strongly helped by the kind of teammates that helps bring out the best in him and that is what he lacks in the Norwegian national team. Though he's been managing to score plenty of goals for Norway, winning a major tournament with the team will be very difficult for him

Yes that makes perfect sense. I have also said before that it will be difficult for a superstar to carry the national team alone. But I hope that in the Haaland era, Norway will have several players who can support Haaland. A superstar will indeed have a big impact on the national team, but support from 10 other players is also needed. Winning a big tournament as a national team will be quite difficult if you don't have teammates who can provide support. This is the same as what Gareth Bale experienced when he was in his prime.
388  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: October 02, 2023, 04:44:15 PM
I not sure whether they deserve or can enter the top 5 of the Lightweight division because look there are a number of great fighters who might be difficult to beat and in first place is Islam Makhachev and second is Oliviera.
If you want fight that is very fierce and controversial, then Islam vs Oliviera will be the most eagerly awaited main card schedule because Islam will defend his belt and Oliviera will try hard to take the belt from Islam Makhachev.

Yeah as I mentioned, in the lightweight class there are Dustin, Justin, Dariush and Chandler who round out the top 5. They are all monsters. That's why I say that if new blood is needed then these monsters should fight with new faces in this class in the top 10 like Gamrot, Fiziev, Dawson and Tsarukyan. Beneil already fought Gamrot and Justin fought Fiziev. Is it possible to make Tsarukyan vs. Dustin and Chandler vs. Dawson (if he wins against Green) fights?

Islam vs Oliveira 2 can be said to be the most awaited fight this year. Although I have a hard time seeing how Oliveira will beat Makhacev. Seriously Makhacev's only defeat was 7 years ago and that too via knockout. And Makhacev now has much better striking. I don't know maybe someone can tell me how Oliveira will win this match?
389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: October 01, 2023, 03:34:36 PM
and UFC can't keep re-running the same fights over and over again, they need to let some fresh blood in the top 5.

If we talk about fresh blood, there are Gamrot, Fiziev, and Dawson who in my opinion have the potential to be in the top 5 of the LW division. But the problem is that currently those in the top 5 are truly monsters. Therefore I am actually really looking forward to fighting with fresh blood, Gaetjhe once beat Fiziev and Dariush won over Gamrot so I think Oliveira, The Diamond and The Iron should choose new opponents.

Finally we have the UFC back next weekend ladies and gents...  Wink

Honestly, I'm not that interested in Fight Night this time. What I mean is that I'll still watch the games but there aren't any games that I'm excited about. Hopefully I can enjoy this UFC card.
390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are trading bots worth using in the cryptocurrency trading? on: October 01, 2023, 03:25:16 PM
I think that every public bot, even paid one, will loose money in long term. It's only suitable if you are sure that you will stop use after some profits
thats true, I guess every some time the strategy used for setting the bots need to be changed around to suit current trend and need, the bots can't always profit since the nature of the market always changing, today it might be all bullish because positive sentiment but next month things will be different.
therefore using bot isn't really sure way to keep profiting there most certainly need to be calibrated.

I also think that way. The market is unpredictable. There are no truly sophisticated bots that can know for sure market movements. I've seen bots that can actually make a profit. The way it works is by taking profit when there is a price increase that has been regulated in the system. However, this will not always produce a profit. And I think buying bots is still ineffective for now. Or maybe it's just me who hasn't found a truly effective Bot?
391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to identify shitcoins? on: October 01, 2023, 03:13:01 PM

One of the biggest mistakes that a lot of investors make is holding on to their shitcoin stacks, buying billions of tokens worth nothing, and then hoping that they will eventually earn a fortune out of those tokens because they are a lot. These are the people who don't understand how things work and how a token with an unlimited supply cannot gain much value no matter what happens, so they just stay optimistic and hopeful that the token they are holding will magically go to $1.

Most of the shitcoins that we see in the market and those that are released every now and then are basically pump-and-dump tokens and they won't have any value in the future, so the best practice if you have bought them is to sell them as soon as you get the opportunity and exit the market.

I can assume that those who collect $0.000xx worth of shitcoins and then hope to get $1 are greedy people and don't want the process of collecting money. They don't know that it is a delusion that will never come true. I mean what causes the coin to rise 100x but they have a huge total supply?
Yes I agree with you. If you want to buy shitcoins, it's better to buy and sell directly when you get a little profit. In terms of investment, I prefer BTC. Without doubt.
392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Monero so unpopular? on: October 01, 2023, 02:59:29 PM
Yes days passed and new coins came with better opportunities, hence people moved from these OG coins to the new ones to make more profit. I still believe that Monero has good capabilities and it’s a good coin to invest.

Of course, other coins have a better chance of fetching a better price. I also agree that Monero is a good coin. But is it worth it for investors to save the coins and then hope to make a profit? I do not think so. The price of Monero is the same as XRP in that there are not too many significant movements. I think that's one of the key factors that makes Monero pricing not so popular.
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Only good coins are listed on top exchange? on: September 30, 2023, 11:44:14 PM
There are many coins that get delisted from good exchanges because their volume decreases and investors decrease, the main reason being poor development progress.

When the coin has sufficient market capitalization and sufficient trading volume, it will be listed on top exchanges.  They are also business people.  The company profits obtained are also a consideration before registering a coin.  The point I mean here is, all exchanges will of course include the top 30 in their exchange, but the problem is coins below the top 30. Because the difference in coins listed by each exchange is there.  Examples like PEPE are listed on almost all exchanges but in reality they are not good projects.  Currently the price has fallen far from their stated expectations.
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Memecoins Vs legit Altcoins in 2023 on: September 30, 2023, 11:36:14 PM
Quote from: Jonyshake71 li.
Why memecoin launching is increasing so much in this year?
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Its Simple.  Because memecoin is a shitcoin that was created without any essential purpose.  This means that if you have a little ability to create tokens, then you will be able to create memecoins.  Usage function?  certainly not.  It can only rely on the large community on the memecoin.  Like many people have to want to buy the coin for the price to increase.  That sounds funny to me.
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins that you trust most on: September 30, 2023, 11:24:18 PM
Of course, everyone has his own list of tokens that he trusts and earns from them, but I would like to share my opinion. For me the best tokens are BTC, MATIC and TFS, I still consistently get good percentages, especially if staking TFS, they have high percentages

OP asked which altcoin is the best and most trusted.  I think BTC won't count because it's not an altcoin.  For me the best altcoins at the moment are BNB and ETH.  I don't know about other altcoins because I'm a little skeptical, especially if the altcoin doesn't have enough use yet.  If you have to choose the remaining three, then MATIC is a good choice too.  XRP and HBAR are also possible options.
396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: September 30, 2023, 03:11:40 AM
Yeah, my bad, 6 looses for Tony.

No problem, buddy  Grin. It was great talking to you because I think we're both pretty excited for the Chandler vs Conor fight. The drama that has been building on TUF should already be a great selling point for both of them. Chandler's students were able to achieve more on TUF because Chandler's team beat Conor's team 5-0. Very excited waiting for the fight between the two of them.
But my question is does Conor have the motivation to sign a contract to fight? I feel like the drama on TUF alone isn't enough to make this fight a reality.
397  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty sebagai pekerjaan utama? on: September 29, 2023, 05:00:18 AM

Kalau Om cek di halaman-halaman sebelumnya, pasti akan paham bahwa masalahnya bukan pada skill atau cara kita dalam memilih campaign/bounty. Letak masalahnya ada pada durasi campaign/bounty yang tidak pasti. Meskipun campaign/bounty benar-benar membayar, tidak ada jaminan akan berlangsung lama. Bisa dibayangkan jika menjadikannya sebagai pekerjaan utama, bisa-bisa tidak ada penghasilan jika suatu saat bounty/campaign berhenti. Atau jika suatu saat bayaran campaign/bounty semakin kecil, hasil dari campaign/bounty sudah tidak worth untuk dijadikan sumber pendapatan utama. Tapi ini dari sudut pandang saya sebagai seseorang yang sudah berkeluarga. Tapi jika Om masih single dan masih disubsidi ortu, tidak masalah jika menjadikan bounty/campaign sebagai pekerjaan utama sementara waktu.  Grin


Membuat bounty/campaign sebagai pekerjaan utama bukan opsi yang bagus bagi saya juga. Seperti yang agan kawetsriyanto kalaupun kita bisa mendapatkan cuan dari bounty dengan skill kita katakanlah kita bisa menghandle kampanye sosmed, signcamp dan kampanye konten, yang dengan hal itu tentu saja kita bisa mendapatkan lebih banyak pemasukan dibanding kebanyakan member lain. Namun bounty itu tidak bersifat permanen. Memang saat ini ada beberapa campaign yang berbayar btc yang sudah jalan lebih dari beberapa bulan, seperti sinbad, yomix, duelbits, dll. Tapi tetap saja lebih baik menjadikan bounty sebagai sampingan saja. Banyak member-member disini yang menjadikan bounty sebagai tempat pemasukan tambahan, dan kalaupun kita menjadikan bounty/campaign sebagai pekerjaan utama sementara, Ketika dapat rejeki lebih dari campaign, seyogyanya uang itu kita pergunakan untuk membuat usaha nyata seperti membuka usaha atau jasa.
398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 29, 2023, 04:11:18 AM
The result of the Real Betis - Granada match ended 1-1. A young player named Assane Diao, only eighteen years old, actively tried to create positions and score goals throughout the match, and after these efforts, he scored a delicious goal from far away. I think he wasn't noticed enough. If Assane Diao had played in the Premier League, this kid would probably already be the center of attention on all sports pages.

Granada is a good opponent. Real Betis could not maintain their superiority. Granada could not score the equalizing goal. It was not a good night for both sides.

After this match I think Assane Diao will be the center of attention of big European teams. He has composure and a good skillset as a left winger. In that match, the Spanish national team players really caught my attention. According to transfermarkt Assane has a value of 200k pounds but I think in the next transfer market his market value will increase many times over.
Overall Real Betis dominated the game but Granada had more shots on target. Fair result for both teams.
399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 29, 2023, 04:03:55 AM

AS Roma fell apart and it was an indescribable performance and total humiliation as Genoa thrash Roma with 4 goals to 1. AS roma started well and git an equalizer through Cristante; after which they conceded 4 unreplied goals!!! The loss means AS Roma are battling relegation crisis at the early stage of the season.

Genoa 4-1 AS Roma

Roma's defeat against Genoa didn't come as much of a surprise to me. They are indeed in a positive trend after not losing in the last 3 matches. But Roma are still showing their inconsistency this season. I think the depth of the squad they have has an influence. Roma does not have reserve players who are at the same level as the main players. This will have bad consequences if the team has a busy schedule. Genoa has a rest period of 2 days longer than Rome. And I think that also influenced the performance of both teams in this match.
400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 29, 2023, 03:52:19 AM

Yes, the main problem is on the coach and Chelsea management. They decide to buy which players, it is their responsibility if they bring the wrong players on the squad. I still don't understand why Chelsea decided to hire Mauricio Pochettino. There is no something special with this coach, he is not the coach who has many good records. He only won the titles with PSG, it is easy because PSG is too superior in Ligue 1. But when he managed Tottenham and Southampton, he failed to win any title.

I think Chelsea needs to hire a new coach who can build a team with better players. I'm not sure Chelsea can build a strong team/squad with Pochettino.



What made Chelsea recruit Pocchettino was because Pochettino is a typical coach who can accept the composition of the existing squad. Chelsea have spent more than 600 million pounds on players in the last two transfer windows. I think Chelsea needs a coach who can not spend a lot of money buying more players. But still this is a big gamble for Chelsea management because if this gamble fails and Chelsea doesn't qualify for any European competition next season, I think the fans will be really angry about this.
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