Hi Amir.
What is the order status of your chips?
+1 Knight, any chance you'd be in the bay area to checkin on this Amir character? I'm looking at options going forward kooks. Personally I just want my boards. I don't want any gen2 from Bitsyncom. Steamboat announced in an update letter to buyers that Yifu said the gen2 chips most likely will not ship until November at the earliest. Doesn't build much confidence there. I'll make some attempts to contact Amir today. If I am unable to contact him, I will make another visit to their office by next week. Things are very busy for me at work and I don't have time to stop by today. knightlife, didnt you mention you were a police officer? Or am I thinking of someone else? If so can you call in a favor to hunt these guys down? |
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Your move bar / terrahash / amir, what say you! Can the remaining developers chime in and settle a debate?
Does anybody have a working 16 chip klondike running at 333*16?
To clarify on this, it would be a 16 chip Klondike at 282*16 (4.5GH as Advertised) with low HW Errors. Also if whoever did this, did so using Terrahash's code. You are using 260pF for C274 right? In order to hash with 16 chips, you need to make the following modifications in klondike.c, from line 159: Status.ChipCount = 16;
// pre-calc nonce range values
BankSize = (Status.ChipCount+1)/2;
Status.MaxCount = WORK_TICKS / BankSize / 2;
NonceRanges[0] = 0;
for(BYTE x = 1; x < BankSize; x++)
NonceRanges[x] = NonceRanges[x-1] + BankRanges[BankSize-1];
If you look at that code, you see, that only 8 nonce ranges are defined. How could this work with 16 chips? Any idea? Also, the NonceRanges were defined as NonceRanges[8]. And for everyone here, fully populated board with 16 chips IS NOT WORKING with those firmware modifications that Terrahash posted above. |
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Can the remaining developers chime in and settle a debate?
Does anybody have a working 16 chip klondike running at 333*16?
To clarify on this, it would be a 16 chip Klondike at 282*16 (4.5GH as Advertised) with low HW Errors. Also if whoever did this, did so using Terrahash's code. You are using 260pF for C274 right? In order to hash with 16 chips, you need to make the following modifications in klondike.c, from line 159: Status.ChipCount = 16;
// pre-calc nonce range values
BankSize = (Status.ChipCount+1)/2;
Status.MaxCount = WORK_TICKS / BankSize / 2;
NonceRanges[0] = 0;
for(BYTE x = 1; x < BankSize; x++)
NonceRanges[x] = NonceRanges[x-1] + BankRanges[BankSize-1];
If you look at that code, you see, that only 8 nonce ranges are defined. How could this work with 16 chips? Any idea? Also, the NonceRanges were defined as NonceRanges[8]. And for everyone here, fully populated board with 16 chips IS NOT WORKING with those firmware modifications that Terrahash posted above. Thanks jipiju |
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Protip: Unless the chips were bought awhile ago, the current price is ~108$ per (chip). So you can expect to be paying *at least* that.
Is that their wholesale cost? |
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Would you consider selling it?
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Please sell these to the community so that we can ROI.
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Can the remaining developers chime in and settle a debate?
Does anybody have a working 16 chip klondike running at 333*16?
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I think the bigger issue right now is TH canceling the orders with Avalon UNLESS we can get them to upgrade the order to Gen2 for same cost.
At the same time we have no knowledge of what Gen2 will actually be and when it will be delivered.
Avalon should really just convert all existing orders to Gen2 unless buyers request otherwise.
Blah blah blah.. my head is all hurting from this BTC thing, lol.
Can you imagine how Terrahash feels? The only thing holding them back from completing their K64 is BKKs absence (Even though they paid him for his service) They are not privileged to information that we are not regarding Avalon Chips. They are trying to figure out what the best scenario is as well and Yifu/Trolling Customers & NON-Customers/BKK are not making it easy which is why I put together a thread for listing all of the solutions and finding out what customers want. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292046.0Bar, how could you possibly know for a fact what it is that is holding TerraHash / Amir back? Do you speak to them on the phone, sms, email? If not then are you an authorised spokesperson for them? If you are not an authorised spokesperson nor in communication with them, then what you are saying is pure conjecture. |
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A moment of silence for 9/11
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The problem is he's not giving people their full money back.
They took preorder's for asic boards w chips, reservations, and introduced their 2 petahash hosting.
Then this flaming man even has the nerve to say 50-60% refund
Im sick of this piece of shits talk on the boards, everything is in his btch ass go back to sleep 3 month bs.
Then theres these panzys defending him and mixing it all up, one even made up some 70% refund bullshit.
Then all the people who are following what they can, some are buying the bullshit like 20% coupon WTF do people need a fcking coupon for, this put order money on the hosting because they cant do shit this Terrahash just took their money and wont return it , some cheering they got a CC refund after calling their bank.
He speaks like all miners are braindead moneybags, hiding from the scene while customers are fighting one another.
If you dont give me my money back im gona beat your a44 you a44 hole.
 cmon bar be fair, its obvious english is not his first language. edit: cant help but laugh at that pic though |
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why dont you go BLAST BKKCOINS for totally disapearing for the last 2 weeks and not saying a word? it is his project/his job to complete the firmware no one elses, the fact that he sat on his hands for the last 5+ weeks while he had a completely filled v3.0 board is not anyone elses fault but his..People also paid BKKcoins a lot of money to deliver and he is the one who is most capable of finishing the project not random DIY people trying to figure out his code..All terrahash should have needed to do was bring the damn chips to facility and program the PIC and be done. Both chips failed to deliver as well as the Klondike project initiated by BKK, end of story. Yeah TH doesn't communicate, obviously its because they got fucked not once, but twice. So i dont think they need douchebag mfers like you ramming shit down their throat.
Are you really blaming BKKCoins for this? (you have to be kidding me), if so on behalf of BKKCoins (fuck you) First TerraHash / Amir refused to honor refunds. Then TerraHash / Amir refused to communicate with people that wanted refunds. Then TerraHash / Amir refused to communicate with customers. Then TerraHash / Amir refused to communicate with other developers. TerraHash / Amir didn't stop communicating because they got fucked not once but twice but because for some reason believe that they are above that, or we don't deserve answers. I'm a douche bag mfer for calling them out on their BS when they are the ones that have stolen 100's of thousands of dollars and refuses, outright refuses to speak to anybody regarding anything? I really don't know what to say.... You are blind beyond all reasoning. |
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It is most likely a hardware bug in the circuit. During our testing we realized that the Dual NOR gates used in the design are too fast, and there needs to be some propagation delay. Using a cheap NOR gate chip from Fry's did the trick. We are still trying to see if this can be fixed in the firmware.
Maybe you may also want to try to use a bigger capacitor for the phase shifter in front of the NOR gate. A circuit should not depend on the propagation delays or fabrication tolerances of logic gates. I also tried to use the internal comparator of the PIC as a NOR gate, which is even better since it has some clock synchronization register. But it has shown that the comparator is not fast enough... Already tried using bigger capacitor. Does not work. The only work around we have found is using a slower gate, so far. I'm sorry to tell you, but you're wrong. I'm using v0.3.1 board with bigger cap (currently about 260pF) and it's hashing quite well. Without it, the clock signal is not delayed enough - just about 5ns and bad nonces are returned. BTW terrahash, what modifications did you made to the 4 chip firmware to hash with all 16 chips? You are using 260pF for C274 right? In order to hash with 16 chips, you need to make the following modifications in klondike.c, from line 159: Status.ChipCount = 16;
// pre-calc nonce range values
BankSize = (Status.ChipCount+1)/2;
Status.MaxCount = WORK_TICKS / BankSize / 2;
NonceRanges[0] = 0;
for(BYTE x = 1; x < BankSize; x++)
NonceRanges[x] = NonceRanges[x-1] + BankRanges[BankSize-1];
They said here how they got it working with 16 chips..? I tested this by programing a PIC chip with this change. After looking at the signals with a storage scope I believe it does send the correct nonce values to all 16 ASIC's. with no ranges duplicated. So if you have all 16 chips installed this should fix the duplicated nonce ranges. Now what bteic ? Fair enough, I am not a C/C++ developer to know if the above is true or not so, Ill just leave this here, Where is Terrahash? They are not responding to emails, tickets, voice call (mail box still not setup).
They are obviously monitoring the forum though.
Let it be known that Terrahash has my chips today. So the two weeks clock starts now.
I need to know what size and spec of fan to buy but I can't find the info as terrahash is not responding to anything.
Looks like someone called TH's bluff. Now we will see... Timer removed. End time: 2013-09-13+24:00:00EDT Just to be clear, they have had roughly 11 days since they received the chips for hchc's order. edit: TerraHash / Amir said that all they needed was the chips, that's the only thing holding them back, well they got the chips, now what? As was said by zipiju, they do not return PM's by the open source community either. So lets take stock shall we? TerraHash / Amir has lied and or misled everybody about their entire business, breaks every promise, refuses to communicate with their existing customers and now we find out they refuse to communicate with the open source developers that are HELPING THEM COMPLETE THE SOFTWARE TO GET YOUR BOARDS DONE!Do you not comprehend this concept? Are you slow or something. TerraHash / Amir doesn't communicate with anybody for any reason other then to get something from them. I would completely understand if Amir was mel then I could understand and would have kept my money with TerraHash but he is not, he is not even close. Amir is a douche bag of the first caliber who stole your and others money, what you get out of defending him I have no idea, but if you cannot see what he is doing then you are i'm sorry to say are delusional. |
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Hi, I've made a thread to try and record what customers feel should happen. It will all be in a google document once there are some posts and will hopefully help Terrahash figure out what is best for customers. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292046.msg3125298#msg3125298Please do not troll in this thread, just follow the format and let your voice be heard. Just make it a moderated thread to avoid any non-relevant stuff. I am not a complete ass hat, I will stay over here, I promise. |
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Will be interested to see if you will get the boards in 2 weeks. <snip...../>
I do not think it is possible for them to deliver anything at all, ever...the below reply is from one of the developers in the BKKCoins thread, basically calling TerraHash out on their BS. Is it not possible for you guys to use TerraHash's stuff? They said they have working k16's with less than 1% error rates.
What Terrahash stuff? They have used stuff that Bkk made as opensource. To be absolutely clear on this, I've wrote to them about mine board with 4 chips assembled hashing at 400MHz with around 0.6% ER, when they were asking me via PM about the changes in HW I made to get it working. They were not able to fix even this for the whole time. They claimed even here on this forum, that the design is wrong.
Later, when they did claimed at 5th of September, that they do have a working board, and the only issue there is I2C, I've wrote them again, asking what firmware changes do they made to hash with all 16 chips and that low error rate.
They didn't even bother to wrote me back.
So what do they actually have? Nothing? Lies? |
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I wonder how Amir is going to get a job after this clusterfuck. What excuse could you possibly have for not speaking to your paying customers? Is this how you would treat your next employers clientele?
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Sigh.....
Please notify us when you have a video of a working prototype.
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