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3841  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHA] Chancecoin protocol, client, and coin for decentralized dice betting on: April 04, 2014, 01:20:38 AM
Ok now it looks like something works. But it stopped at:

Chancecoin is not finished synchronizing. Chancecoin has finished processing 292091 out of 294065 Bitcoin blocks.

Doesn't do anything from there on out!
3842  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 11:54:55 PM
Is there a way to make Nxt more anonymous? Or is it built-in? I see in the explorer you can see all the transactions... Jw

JL wrote a guide on how to use TOR with NXT
3843  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: April 03, 2014, 10:06:51 PM
Guys, there is an interesting discussion about NEM vs NXT created my a stakeholder. A few people have said and asked very interesting questions.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555401.0

if you have something to contribute to the discussion please join  Wink

FWIW, I think it's too early for this discussion. The common refrain from detractors will be "vaporware"! I think it's better to hold off on this type of discussion until at least after the alpha is released.

I am not a detractor and I am still calling it vaporware. Because according to wikipedia, it is exactely that at this moment in time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

Once the testnet is up, lets see what the devs came up with, until then, lets rather focus on creating new features or talk about concepts!
3844  Other / Archival / Re: closed on: April 03, 2014, 09:51:40 PM
All the guys you bought from are basically the bagholders?
3845  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 09:47:41 PM
Will there be hugs soon?


3846  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: April 03, 2014, 09:41:49 PM
I wont put numbers.For everyone who cares about distribution, just compare them here.DO IT YOURSELF.

 NXT HAS BETTER DISTRIBUTION TODAY THAT ALMOST EVERY OTHER CRYPTO! And counting that for not having yet a userfriendly client,which will soon be ready,a lot of people still have nxt in exchanges,which make distribution look worst.

http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-dogecoin-addresses.html

Your well loved dogecoin.34% of the coins owned by 6 accounts. Much WOW!

####

Also, guess what will happen when NEM hits the markets? Many will sell for a quick buck and the price will fall significantly and the big stakeholders will buy up tons of it , creating a slow trend to the distribution of other coins. Or do you guys really think, that this won't happen?

You say that NEM's case is this:
1. in launch and 1st pump   ............... 3000 NEM owners
2. the 1st dump ................................  1500 NEM owners,  10% of them bought the rest out
3. the 2nd pump
4. the 2nd dump .........  1500 NEM owners,  but 10% of them own 75% of NEM
and so on.

That reminds me about one state which believed in K.Marx. Then there was moved to capitalism. Even they all owned all the wealth together, the result was -and is, that 10% of the people own most of the money, oil, gold.
Why would that happen here also? Why it will happen? Wink





Not even sAying thAt the number of people owning will go down. I just think that the number of NEM each original stakeholder holds will go down. If  it starts with a market cap of 10000 BTC (not unlikely) how many people will not try to cash out 3 BTC per person? That is much money to them!

Rich people or atleast people with wealth, will always find a way to increase their wealth, and people with less money can't because their expenses are higher than their gains.

Sad but true..

I bet within 1 year, the NEM distribution will be exactely like BTCs

mmm... maybe the number  of people owning will not go down, but there has been many saying that they will sell their stake.
U r right: 3 BTC is much money to some - - - and that will start the concentration.

There are people who r not selling but who r not so rich.  they will start suffering from the game of the rich.


Exactely.

There are also some other components in there. For example there are guys claiming to own up to 90 accounts, and the investigation of the stakeholoders also showed many people that bought in mltiple times. So maybe there aren't even 3000 people to beginn with.

As a stakeholder myself i am hoping for a great start of NEM so i can participate accordingly Wink
3847  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 09:31:52 PM
Wtb lots of NXT
Only escrow!

I can do escrow if you want and find someone to take up your offer.

make sure he includes the fee when he sends you yours. Kept me waiting for hours by not including it for mine.

lol, why should i pay for the fee? I sent what was sent to me^^

remind me to never use you as escrow.  you as the middleman had certain responsibilities here


Yeah good idea. Use an escrow for free and expect him to pay the fee. Rofl, you guys seem to be delusional...

Dude, I offered to do it without escrow and to send first and suddenly you injected yourself into the whole deal as mr. big shot escrow man.
You could have at least told me up front you were sending sans fee and given me the opportunity to pay it myself so
I didn't have to sit around forever waiting for it to confirm.  

Get your facts straight, msin wanted an escrow. Also stop bitching about waiting for a transfer that will clearly confirm if you dont even spend the amount then....

This is such a kindergarden here

You are in the wrong but you'll never admit it and I won't try to make you. You don't like me and you took it out on me with your little no fee stunt. I don't like you either but I included the fee because that's just the right thing to do. Have a nice life.

I transferd you 33 NXT, that is 1 $. Tx ID 15654357663140885235

I did not mean to insult anyone with offering free escrow and then just sending without fee.



It's was never about the money. Now I have to open my freaking client so I can send it back to you.


Keep it please Smiley
Also i know it wasn't about the money. I just didn't realized you need the BTC soon. I have a manner of sending BTC without fee, i do it all the time.
Sry man!

(Also please know that this is just my bitchy internet persona, I don't know you and have nothing against you personally Wink )

Take care
3848  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 09:28:37 PM
Wtb lots of NXT
Only escrow!

I can do escrow if you want and find someone to take up your offer.

make sure he includes the fee when he sends you yours. Kept me waiting for hours by not including it for mine.

lol, why should i pay for the fee? I sent what was sent to me^^

remind me to never use you as escrow.  you as the middleman had certain responsibilities here


Yeah good idea. Use an escrow for free and expect him to pay the fee. Rofl, you guys seem to be delusional...

Dude, I offered to do it without escrow and to send first and suddenly you injected yourself into the whole deal as mr. big shot escrow man.
You could have at least told me up front you were sending sans fee and given me the opportunity to pay it myself so
I didn't have to sit around forever waiting for it to confirm.  

Get your facts straight, msin wanted an escrow. Also stop bitching about waiting for a transfer that will clearly confirm if you dont even spend the amount then....

This is such a kindergarden here

You are in the wrong but you'll never admit it and I won't try to make you. You don't like me and you took it out on me with your little no fee stunt. I don't like you either but I included the fee because that's just the right thing to do. Have a nice life.

I transferd you 33 NXT, that is 1 $. Tx ID 15654357663140885235

I did not mean to insult anyone with offering free escrow and then just sending without fee.

3849  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 09:16:05 PM
Yeah, i don't care, all people that know me, know of my flawless reputation. The only people that complained here were a troll and a clueless guy.

Also i think i am particularly bitchy today, maybe because i lost 5 digits at playing online poker today Sad

You may have lost 5 digits playing cards, but at least you made up for it by saving on transaction fees.

Weeeeeee Smiley

Staying optimistic is the key!
3850  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 09:12:16 PM
Get your facts straight, msin wanted an escrow. Also stop bitching about waiting for a transfer that will clearly confirm if you dont even spend the amount then....

This is such a kindergarden here

Dude...You just trashed your reputation for the sake of 1/10th of a millibit.

The correct response would have been to apologize to Brian for the oversight.

Instead you spend multiple posts defending your poor etiquette. Show some class.

Yeah, i don't care, all people that know me, know of my flawless reputation. The only people that complained here were a troll and a clueless guy.

Also i think i am particularly bitchy today, maybe because i lost 5 digits at playing online poker today Sad

3851  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: April 03, 2014, 08:59:40 PM
I wont put numbers.For everyone who cares about distribution, just compare them here.DO IT YOURSELF.

 NXT HAS BETTER DISTRIBUTION TODAY THAT ALMOST EVERY OTHER CRYPTO! And counting that for not having yet a userfriendly client,which will soon be ready,a lot of people still have nxt in exchanges,which make distribution look worst.

http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-dogecoin-addresses.html

Your well loved dogecoin.34% of the coins owned by 6 accounts. Much WOW!

####

Also, guess what will happen when NEM hits the markets? Many will sell for a quick buck and the price will fall significantly and the big stakeholders will buy up tons of it , creating a slow trend to the distribution of other coins. Or do you guys really think, that this won't happen?

You say that NEM's case is this:
1. in launch and 1st pump   ............... 3000 NEM owners
2. the 1st dump ................................  1500 NEM owners,  10% of them bought the rest out
3. the 2nd pump
4. the 2nd dump .........  1500 NEM owners,  but 10% of them own 75% of NEM
and so on.

That reminds me about one state which believed in K.Marx. Then there was moved to capitalism. Even they all owned all the wealth together, the result was -and is, that 10% of the people own most of the money, oil, gold.
Why would that happen here also? Why it will happen? Wink





Not even sAying thAt the number of people owning will go down. I just think that the number of NEM each original stakeholder holds will go down. If  it starts with a market cap of 10000 BTC (not unlikely) how many people will not try to cash out 3 BTC per person? That is much money to them!

Rich people or atleast people with wealth, will always find a way to increase their wealth, and people with less money can't because their expenses are higher than their gains.

Sad but true..

I bet within 1 year, the NEM distribution will be exactely like BTCs
3852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: April 03, 2014, 08:53:14 PM
I am not emotionally involved in any coin actually. Personally I think ripple will succeed.

Q: Do you think that "A" or "B" will win?

A: "C" will.

Actually there is room for A, B and C to all 'win'...

But if their communities fight with each other then the v1.0 crap-coin out there is the only winner.

Yes, i was just pointing out that the thread is about NXT vs NEM^^
3853  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 08:50:47 PM
Wtb lots of NXT
Only escrow!

I can do escrow if you want and find someone to take up your offer.

make sure he includes the fee when he sends you yours. Kept me waiting for hours by not including it for mine.

lol, why should i pay for the fee? I sent what was sent to me^^

remind me to never use you as escrow.  you as the middleman had certain responsibilities here


Yeah good idea. Use an escrow for free and expect him to pay the fee. Rofl, you guys seem to be delusional...

Dude, I offered to do it without escrow and to send first and suddenly you injected yourself into the whole deal as mr. big shot escrow man.
You could have at least told me up front you were sending sans fee and given me the opportunity to pay it myself so
I didn't have to sit around forever waiting for it to confirm.  

Get your facts straight, msin wanted an escrow. Also stop bitching about waiting for a transfer that will clearly confirm if you dont even spend the amount then....

This is such a kindergarden here
3854  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 08:49:01 PM
Wtb lots of NXT
Only escrow!

I can do escrow if you want and find someone to take up your offer.

make sure he includes the fee when he sends you yours. Kept me waiting for hours by not including it for mine.

lol, why should i pay for the fee? I sent what was sent to me^^

You could have paid him 0.0001 less. It would not have  cost you anything.

This reminds me of a question a wife asks his husband:

Do you think i have gained weight?


The thing is that without fees transaction can sometimes get stuck for days. I would rather get 0.0001  less than deal with that.



Then you don't understand the bitcoin Network. The transfer consisted of 1 big output. No way it would have been longer then some hours.
3855  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: April 03, 2014, 08:47:12 PM
I am not emotionally involved in any coin actually. Personally I think ripple will succeed.

Q: Do you think that "A" or "B" will win?

A: "C" will.
3856  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 08:43:29 PM
Wtb lots of NXT
Only escrow!

I can do escrow if you want and find someone to take up your offer.

make sure he includes the fee when he sends you yours. Kept me waiting for hours by not including it for mine.

lol, why should i pay for the fee? I sent what was sent to me^^

You could have paid him 0.0001 less. It would not have  cost you anything.

This reminds me of a question a wife asks his husband:

Do you think i have gained weight?
3857  Economy / Gambling / Re: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts on: April 03, 2014, 08:41:40 PM
@sealsteam: One of my non english speaking refs wants to know how much of the funds (in%) on your site are stored in not-connected-to-the-internet-devices (cold-cold storage)?

THank you!

クラブとシールは、オンライン最高のポーカーサイトです

go to google to translate

"Seal and Club is online poker site of highest"

Huh

I couldn't find that info myself anywhere, so how would googletranslate help me there?

japanese lol, i typed in seals with clubs is the #1 bitcoin poker site.

lost in translation, i get it now

Haha, alright then Smiley Lets wait for the seal officials to tell us the %number!
3858  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best Alt coin to invest in 2014 on: April 03, 2014, 08:31:58 PM
portfolio 60% BTC and BTC clones
40% BTC 2.0

Which coin you name BTC 2.0?

MSC XCP NXT EMU ETH

MSC have admitted their implementation is flawed
XCP is stumped by the fact that bitcoin have removed half the storage they needed in the blockchain.

EMU is a pump and dump - the continuous increase in coins as a whale defense also devalues all other holdings.

My picks for 2.0 coins, NXT, NEM and maybe ETH - all PoS - put aside distribution its about technology, innovation and community / following, NXT and NEM both have these, ETH have an interesting stakeholder list but community I am not sure and this is why I dont list XRP.

Absolutely NO BTC derivatives whatever the parameters - BTC technology is v1.0 and like all v1.0 its flawed, both MSC and XCP sit on 1.0 tech.

yeah, lets hope that BCNext creates a new and better coin, so that we have a good competitor against NXT and BTC!
3859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: April 03, 2014, 08:29:28 PM
I wont put numbers.For everyone who cares about distribution, just compare them here.DO IT YOURSELF.

 NXT HAS BETTER DISTRIBUTION TODAY THAT ALMOST EVERY OTHER CRYPTO! And counting that for not having yet a userfriendly client,which will soon be ready,a lot of people still have nxt in exchanges,which make distribution look worst.

http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-dogecoin-addresses.html

Your well loved dogecoin.34% of the coins owned by 6 accounts. Much WOW!

####

Also, guess what will happen when NEM hits the markets? Many will sell for a quick buck and the price will fall significantly and the big stakeholders will buy up tons of it , creating a slow trend to the distribution of other coins. Or do you guys really think, that this won't happen?
3860  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 08:26:42 PM

I really dislike charting services that restrict usage of better graphs with a sign up. You already get my site views. Why also register?
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