I also emailed everyone I (personally) know about Monero in November when MyMonero launched. Offered them free monero if they signed up but nobody did it. Now I followed up again the other day, and this is the only response I got. (from a a smart professional person) "I'm moving to the desert to do drugs and leaving all technology behind." Monero is still a difficult pitch for the average person that doesn't care about privacy, doesn't use bitcoin yet, etc. Investors are needed for Monero. I am convinced in the world exists money enough to buy up the Monero and rise the marketcap significiantly. The problem is to find those people. A good way to make money is to try to find local rich people's contact details and start contacting them (not explaining things in technical jargon but in the language of average Joe), then find the right people and sell them coins with markup which is your salary. You might get nice hourly wage in this way by the way. Just tell them you are not accepting less than 30 000 usd investments per person.  This is kind of a morally depraved way of going out about this. I hope no one is doing this. It's a technology not snake oil. |
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I also emailed everyone I (personally) know about Monero in November when MyMonero launched. Offered them free monero if they signed up but nobody did it. Now I followed up again the other day, and this is the only response I got. (from a a smart professional person) "I'm moving to the desert to do drugs and leaving all technology behind." Monero is still a difficult pitch for the average person that doesn't care about privacy, doesn't use bitcoin yet, etc. It may be a hard sell until the internet of things is in full swing--then it becomes a choice of do you want your drones publicly or privately funded? Monero may be only an iteration towards quantum money (with perhaps zero cash in between), but it seems a necessary one if you want iot to work fluidly--the last thing most people want is theft drones intercepting their stuff because they glean info off of a public blockchain.  |
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I really don't get this argument. 2300 * 5k = $11.5 million. Woopity friggin doo.
That's a naive calculation. If you want to enter the market now to run 2300 masternodes, you simply cannot obtain 2.3 million coins on the open market. The money required to obtain a sizable fraction of the masternode network is exponentially higher than $11.5 million. And don't bring the black helicopters into this. By your same 'drop in the bucket' argument, unlimited hashing power can be bought and manufactured. Therefore, Bitcoin mining (or the mining of any other crypto) can be owned by a sufficiently determined nation state. Once they control what's written into the blockchain, it's curtains. It's patently obvious from history that governments are not keen on relinquishing the power of the purse. I doubt they will build the hashes to pwn Bitcoin, so TPTB will just keep changing the laws to tame the public's interest. LOL, why would you want to attack a public blockchain with permanent links? Bitcoin is good for surveillance. *Also, pretty naive to think that governments would just buy nodes--intimidation, threats, ect, are all part of the bureaucratic arsenal. They got to Microsoft and other companies with billions in resources and you don't think they can get a node operator? The problem is having a system that has a human element, like masternode operators, that can leak information in the first place. |
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are there actually any real investors here lol? talk about scams - thanks for the education thankfully it cost me $0  If you're invested in drk for the duration, it will cost you all your investment. If you're using drk and the FBI gets interested, it will cost you all your privacy, and if you think you're fooling anyone with your concerned troll act, you're all mistaken. If I was concern trolling, I would repost minor variations of above text every 30 minutes for 3 days non-stop, like the Monero core dev 'Smooth' does on the DRK thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13813;sa=showPostsinstead I made my point, cheers  He warned you, so when it goes south, you can't say no one tried. Good luck. |
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are there actually any real investors here lol? talk about scams - thanks for the education thankfully it cost me $0 If you're invested in drk for the duration, it will cost you all your investment. If you're using drk and the FBI gets interested, it will cost you all your privacy, and if you think you're fooling anyone with your concerned troll act, you're all mistaken. |
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Can we cool off posting in Darkcoin threads? It is nothing but beating dead horses. Fools cant be helped and its certainly getting us a bad name
I would ask the same. 2 of the core monero devs (Smooth and Fluffypony) have been posting fulltime in DRK thread and reddit for days: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg10862640#msg10862640a lot of people are asking why - this is very unusual for a top 20 coin. And drk is in the top 5 so why are they bothered to spend all there time there instead of here. IDK. They are concerned with privacy and drk is selling itself as a privacy solution. If they think it is a fraud, then they'd be remiss not to. *also, I don't think you know what all means. |
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very nascent idea seed I wanted to plant here to see what may happen.
basically, use the privacy features of monero to somehow fix some of the problems in contemporary science.
from my experience, some of the fundamental problems with modern science is the peer review process - many journals function as gatekeepers, rejecting the publication of certain articles they feel "aren't worthy" of publication in that particular journal. this kind of crap grinds science to a slow tumbling pace. Article submissions can take 6 months. Then it gets rejected. THen its another 6 months. So, something you figure out a year ago still hasn't made it out to the community. Frustrating.
To counter this, open access (somewhat free for all) journals such as PLOS have cropped up -the idea being that the scientific community will eventually determine the worthiness of a publication simply based on its influence on the field - i.e., others will reference it. I.e., it will undergo peer review for its scientific merit only, as opposed to some ill-defined (and often reviewer-interpreted) journal specific merit.
The problem here of course is that there is soooo much published, it becomes impossible to separate the interesting stuff from the other stuff.
And if this # of citations index is the measure of a publications worth, this takes time - years to do additional research in order to write an article to cite the original article and thus increase its standing in the literature. And if you go the non-PLOS route, add another year for the journal process.
Thus, it'd be great if there was a way for the scientific community to go "yeah, i agree with that article" for whatever reason - they've observed similar phenomena, etc. It would be a way for consensus to form within a much shorter time frame to guide the field more efficiently.
once could imagine that a system such as reddits upvoting may work, but there's no economic cost for exploit. Hence, monero.
this app could also potentially benefit from monero trust and monero ID.
Just throwing out my first thought and not worrying too much. It could use a system where you are awarded a certain number of vote credits. But let's say that someone is particularly good at picking good material, then once a certain vote threshold is reached, then the votes could be redistributed to all who upvoted the article. You could also use a system that had field specialization (nuclear scientist voting on nuclear materials, botanists voting on botany work, ect.) which would take out the non-specialist who have little insight in other fields. Would be awesome to have a pro-reddit and not have to fish through endless comments to get at the heart of an issue. hrm, not sure im pickin up what you're putting down here. it would all be done anonymously, thanks to monero. The potential influence of non-specialists may be mitigated due to the cost of voting. of course, one could "buy" influence if this works directly off the monero main chain. I guess it could also utilize a daughter chain. "pro-reddit" - yeah, thats the idea,.... create an economic cost for voting / posting content. I'm sure it any forum implemented a per-post cost, there'd be a significant signal-noise ratio increase. I was thinking the site would distribute the credits. Like a professor of psychology would be given five credits (max and minimum to be determined by site) a month by Psychologyliterature.to and then you would use those credits (or save them) to vote up materials you liked. maybe develop a base system that could be configured by site owners? |
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very nascent idea seed I wanted to plant here to see what may happen.
basically, use the privacy features of monero to somehow fix some of the problems in contemporary science.
from my experience, some of the fundamental problems with modern science is the peer review process - many journals function as gatekeepers, rejecting the publication of certain articles they feel "aren't worthy" of publication in that particular journal. this kind of crap grinds science to a slow tumbling pace. Article submissions can take 6 months. Then it gets rejected. THen its another 6 months. So, something you figure out a year ago still hasn't made it out to the community. Frustrating.
To counter this, open access (somewhat free for all) journals such as PLOS have cropped up -the idea being that the scientific community will eventually determine the worthiness of a publication simply based on its influence on the field - i.e., others will reference it. I.e., it will undergo peer review for its scientific merit only, as opposed to some ill-defined (and often reviewer-interpreted) journal specific merit.
The problem here of course is that there is soooo much published, it becomes impossible to separate the interesting stuff from the other stuff.
And if this # of citations index is the measure of a publications worth, this takes time - years to do additional research in order to write an article to cite the original article and thus increase its standing in the literature. And if you go the non-PLOS route, add another year for the journal process.
Thus, it'd be great if there was a way for the scientific community to go "yeah, i agree with that article" for whatever reason - they've observed similar phenomena, etc. It would be a way for consensus to form within a much shorter time frame to guide the field more efficiently.
once could imagine that a system such as reddits upvoting may work, but there's no economic cost for exploit. Hence, monero.
this app could also potentially benefit from monero trust and monero ID.
Just throwing out my first thought and not worrying too much. It could use a system where you are awarded a certain number of vote credits. But let's say that someone is particularly good at picking good material, then once a certain vote threshold is reached, then the votes could be redistributed to all who upvoted the article. You could also use a system that had field specialization (nuclear scientist voting on nuclear materials, botanists voting on botany work, ect.) which would take out the non-specialist who have little insight in other fields. Would be awesome to have a pro-reddit and not have to fish through endless comments to get at the heart of an issue. |
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You sound like a corrupt politician absolving himself of responsibility. Just because you can't make a horse drink water doesn't mean you lead him further into the desert.
If the horse refuses to drink, what good is it? The strong prosper and the weak perish, regardless of your futile interventions. Such is life. But you do not know which horse will drink until you get them to water--so we(those who give a shit about privacy) place facts (like water) out for the horses and let them decide. |
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Yes, but burning how many people with it as it crumbles? And financially burning would be the least destructive outcome, what if there are serious repercussions due to compromised "anonymity"?
This could lead to people having their lives turned completely upside down and ruined by governments.
That's not something that you, or anyone in fact, can stop. People will do what they want, and face the consequences accordingly. You sound like a corrupt politician absolving himself of responsibility. Just because you can't make a horse drink water doesn't mean you lead him further into the desert. |
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I'm invested in both Monero and DRK. I don't care who wins. In terms of potential profit, I actually stand to gain more from Monero, just because the DRK-XMR rate was so favorable when I diversified. That being said, why are Monero lead devs trolling Darkcoin? Are you guys fucking brain dead? Do you not realize how terrible that looks? If you guys spent half as much time working as trolling, Monero might actually be usable by now. This criticism applies to Smooth in particular. Get your head out of your ass bud.
I think "investing" is about much more than profit. I would not feel good investing in military companies and profiting via war/killing. Likewise, but on a much lesser level, I would not want to profit from an instamined coin who has potentially serious security issues. Another moral issue that I stay away from. That is an investment in a future failure and it brings the whole ship down with it and does wonders for destroying the image of Crypto. So, one should not equate brain dead people with exposing fraud, security issues, etc. I'm not gonna name call but what do you call those who associate themselves with that? You should know that for something to be fraud, there must be deception. As I've stated before, the DRK instamine is well known. DRK has FAQs that address it. It's 100% out in the open. You can call it unethical, but ethics are subjective. There are those who would say that gambling is unethical. As far as security goes, nothing is 100% secure until we're all using open source hardware. Haven't seen any commentary on that far more important issue. Monero has way more to gain by building itself up than by tearing others down. If DRK is built on a flawed foundation, as you seem to think, then it would follow that it will eventually crumble.The sooner the better. Saying it was an oopsy-mine is not the same as saying it was a fabrication intended to deceive people and the dev was actively trying to line his and his friend's pockets--which added to the linux only release seems like the most plausible story. |
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I'm invested in both Monero and DRK. I don't care who wins. In terms of potential profit, I actually stand to gain more from Monero, just because the DRK-XMR rate was so favorable when I diversified. That being said, why are Monero lead devs trolling Darkcoin? Are you guys fucking brain dead? Do you not realize how terrible that looks? If you guys spent half as much time working as trolling, Monero might actually be usable by now. This criticism applies to Smooth in particular. Get you head out of your ass bud.
If you want to play concerned parent, you should probably make a new account and not use one that has a post history hectoring Monero and supporting drk. Do you guys get your BS cues from Evan? At least he has the good sense to change the name of the scam. |
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so if I invest in Monero, I am investing in the core dev and the top community members spending 90% time trolling against the leader in the anon space with 20x Monero's volume and dragging the Monero name through the mud on a daily basis, instead of trying to improve Monero itself to compete better? Thanks for the info, makes sense. (  ) They are doing two important things, concurrently 1. Making our life better with untraceable tech 2. Saving people from getting scammed so I should buy Monero to fund an 'anti-scam' troll group that trolls the competitors instead of developing Monero itself is what you are saying. If that's the only technical critique you can offer against Monero, your coin is already dead. |
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Why?
Privacy is a right that shouldn't be trampled upon by false promises that can't be delivered, or worse used to trick the naive into using a system that is easily exploitable and lined with buzz words that can't be validated beyond a sale's pitch--that's why.
As a profiteer, you're question should be, "Was the drk price just artificially pumped so smart investors could leverage more purchasing power to buy the coin that is designed with better privacy (XMR)?"
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Our beloved core team member David Latapie is being considered for the hugely coveted title of Altcoin Gangster. Although in connection with his other coin, I think we should still give him some Monero love over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=723764.0Nice title fits perfectly with the pump and dump scam of Monero unfolding. beware newbies before investing!! Better let this one first drop towards normal levels and get some Doge, or plain bitcoin in the mean time First troll in--must mean fear is in the air.  I am certainly not a troll. More a white knight protecting crypto lovers from scams With no rep and no arguments--sure I'll buy that bridge with a side of rainbows. |
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Our beloved core team member David Latapie is being considered for the hugely coveted title of Altcoin Gangster. Although in connection with his other coin, I think we should still give him some Monero love over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=723764.0Nice title fits perfectly with the pump and dump scam of Monero unfolding. beware newbies before investing!! Better let this one first drop towards normal levels and get some Doge, or plain bitcoin in the mean time First troll in--must mean fear is in the air. there are over ~500 posts in the DRK thread in the last 2 weeks from Monero community with every accusation and slander under the sun FYI. Drk is the Milli Vanilli of privacy coins FYI. Most of the people in the Monero community care more about privacy than profits and when they see this pig with lipstick dancing around singing, "We're better than Bitcoin and more anonymous than Monero!" The BS meter spikes and gets some reaction. Good luck when the dam breaks and washes you out of delusionville. |
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Our beloved core team member David Latapie is being considered for the hugely coveted title of Altcoin Gangster. Although in connection with his other coin, I think we should still give him some Monero love over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=723764.0Nice title fits perfectly with the pump and dump scam of Monero unfolding. beware newbies before investing!! Better let this one first drop towards normal levels and get some Doge, or plain bitcoin in the mean time First troll in--must mean fear is in the air. |
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When the internet of things replaces current models, www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xOK2aJ-0Js (a very quick 10 minutes), it will need to be private based on the need for DAC's to fulfill orders instantly without a third party being able to intercept drones by way of blockchain analysis. The counter argument would be that security drones would do the dirty work of protecting these drones or drones would use surreptitious routes to avoid being intercepted, but this is terribly inefficient when compared to just having the orders take place on a private blockchain, or misses that the more important the order, the more likely all three methods would be used for security. |
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so I realized I should sell some XMR at 100 BTC on poloniex.
I think everyone should put a sell order at that price point.
100 BTC for 1 XMR? What are you smoking? Something he bought privately with confidence that it won't be linked back to him. Maybe 1,000,000 to 1 so Satoshi can relax too  |
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