it is just a mockup to show you how things will be situated in the case ( and how airflow works if you watched the Vid ) to show you that the airflow is gonna be passing over all parts to keep it cooled and not allow the system to overheat
How did you imagined that airflow from the 3D renderings? If you imagined different than what you saw in the video then you have a problem. The airflow is passing like it should be. With or without mock pcb. Nothing special. Nothing technical, just airflow passing from left to right. |
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the black pcb is just a mock-up
It seems to me that someone wants to snach BFL's title of skill in conning their customers. First we had box of fans, now we have box of fans+ mock pcb. Wtf is going on? If this is the case now i'm anxious to see what the next con will invent! |
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actually fyi, Simon called me this morning and we had a nice long talk about a variety of things.
they are working as hard and fast as they can to get these things out. i told him everyone was quite upset and he feels badly but literally has had his nose to the grindstone trying to get everything together. but it is happening and he is more optimistic, as am i. i too have been worried but feel much better after talking to him.
these units look really good and i am excited to get them.
Are you so kind to ask Simon if the black PCB from the published photo is a real one or a mock up? |
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I´m missing an official statement on the website about the psu,
customers which are here not at home, have to know which psu (power) they need.
Why not e-mail them? |
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interesting the speed of the airflow. and that's even w/o the 2 exhaust fans at the back they had in their mockups.
looks good to me.
You find that speed of the airflow interesting? I think this is a new low of you... |
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So I'm pretty sure most suspect this might actually be yifu selling avalon gen 2 devices. The specs are the same but the chip markings mysteriously are not there
Setting up the review takes a few people. Someone to travel (in this case it was me), someone to keep track of where the traveler is as often as possible, someone who knows about building the website, someone to see I’m not way off to the RIGHT or LEFT and way politically wrong on the posts (to avoid remorse after the post) and sacrifices from loved ones around us and my Piggy Bank  *lots of already posted pictures and text* After the the last post of sushi(a member who joined this forum on 5 November and who strangely did a special travel to China for this review) with the same text and picture and all the marketing shit for the third time I started to ponder about this project. While I know that there are different chip packages(can someone tell me if you can package the chip in different packages?) I'm starting to believe this is Avalon undercover. The specs are very alike and I'm wondering how did they manage to raise funds all by themselves and how come they didn't come here in the supposed 7 months of developing the chip and not ask for a single pre-order. Considering that people still buy BFL products they could easily raise some money. Another thing that i don't understand is how come bitmain let's sushi do all the marketing and all the communication here but he is active in the Market forum.We also never saw bitmain or anyone else in person. This may not add up, but a big FU to all the Avalon team starting with the scumbag BitSyncomm! Boycott time! |
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Sooooo.... free, right?  (Remember that we´re talking about the unit... not the prices of airfare, nor your butt) Expenses + time to review. So hardly free. But nice job if you can get it. I'm always up for a fun trip abroad on expenses. YES, It was FUN as well. We are trying to fund a few more reviews if we can! We want to bring Positiveness to the Bitcoin If you have another companies in mind for the next review, shoot us the PMs. What's the temperature they operate? Is it possible to lower the voltage and speed? |
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So, while we're waiting on substrates, how is the testing of the wafer going?
I'm sure now that they're in hand you're well into the bumping and dicing process, and are starting to get some really good test data.
Anything to share, HashFast_CL?
They can't share because it's under NDA! BFL-2 weeks; HF-NDA! |
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When in doubt, use the backup tester! I put it in to calm users' nerves about issues like these  I must admit that i am really impressed by your work and by your way of thinking. You actually think for the users and this is among the few software where i have everything that i need. Usually there is always some small thing that is missing and ruins the whole experience. Great job and thank you for your work! |
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Please vote
What's the actual purpose of this poll? |
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I am not speculating on what this means but like you I was skeptical and even incorrectly, corrected others (yeah D&T is sometimes wrong it happens, even got corrected by Gavin today).
Link? |
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That news were posted on the KnC website on 15 November (when they were supposed to start shipping), but it's ok. We get an additional 100GH/s. I really don't understand you shills, KnC has a delay of 10 days and you come here to point that out while your shitty company is already late more than 10 days. Why are you people so blind and so bad intended even with tangible(thx D&T for the term  ) proofs. We already have a lot of Jupiters hashing and we will have more in 2 weeks, but you had to BOLD the delay. iCEBREAKER grats on your new cypherdoc idiot title from me. Happy hashing with your vaporware! |
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So I'm pretty sure most suspect this might actually be yifu selling avalon gen 2 devices. The specs are the same but the chip markings mysteriously are not there
Also the chips are QFN56 rather than QFN48. What are the differences between them?(packaging not chips) 56 pins vs 48 pins. They also (from the datasheet) have a different communication protocol than the Avalon chips. Aslo J/GH spec We progress very fast recently, and we will sell our first batch, 30 units, in China market, tomorrow. They are all in stock miners. After that there will be lots of "evidence" in the China bitcoin community, I will try to repost here if I have the time to gather it. At the same time, the second batch will come in 1 or 2 days after the first batch, and the sample miners for global community members will be shipped out, and sales for oversea customers will be initiated. Waiting for a power consumption picture/video of one AntMiner hashing at 180GH/s. Would you sell your miners on a $/GH rate or BTC/GH rate? |
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So i knew something...
Zefir is talking about the boards from burnin, mine are the c-scape/bitfury/bfsb. Burnin clocks the chips higher. I know. Earlier on this thread i stated that i saw somewhere that bitfury chips run at 2W/GH, but i couldn't remember where. Now i just posted proof that i wasn't talking out of my ass like most people here on the forum. |
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So I'm pretty sure most suspect this might actually be yifu selling avalon gen 2 devices. The specs are the same but the chip markings mysteriously are not there
Also the chips are QFN56 rather than QFN48. What are the differences between them?(packaging not chips) |
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Hi guys, Thank you for the support. Here you go! http://youtu.be/puHeCjNM6dc Congrad to the hard working Bitmain Team for bringing this miner to a realty. For the past 48 hours, they were working non-stop & slept may be 3 hours a day or less. I saw the engineers crashed and passed out on the factory hallway or some were working and discussing the business but just faded out and passed out for a while. (those guys had high spirits the whole time with a great team work!!! In China, Youtube is not accessible. I had the VPN set up thinking thats how I was going to bypass that issue, the internet I had access to was blocked from the VPN use. Now worked around the issues. Their website is purposely off-line until the day they will take orders for the packaged up & ready to ship miners. They now do have those units and I saw them and saw the units fresh out of the production lines went to the quality control and the burn-in tests. Let me sort the photos and videos to make sure none of them have any personal identifying info or sensitive business info on them. Just hang in there! They are doing thing the right way. Trying to push out a high quality miners. Since, we decided to run the myth buster role playing, we decided to brand the videos with the domain name. If this helped you in any way, please consider donations for the future myth buster (early scam/loss prevention) measure we are trying to do. 2013 was a brutal year for the miner investment with the pre-orders. That's a waste of 1 full minute...Please post only relevant videos. Thank you. |
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How's the power consumption?
At the moment, I don't have anything to measure it, I will come back to you. But it can't be much, the whole setup doesn't even get lukewarm   I did not watch the red LED frequency with mine stacks, but what prevented them from reaching 400GHps turned out to be insufficient power. With 850W PSUs I was not able to reach more than 360 (and also had USB errors, btw.), now with a 1200W PSU everything works smooth and each board is at 50GHps on average (1080mV, 275MHz). At wall I measure around 750W draw, but there might be spikes that a PSU operated at its edge can't handle.
What you can try to double check is to operate only 4 boards at a time and check they reach 200GHps (terminate CAN bus correctly + unplug ribbon cable from inactive ones). If so, you need a stronger PSU.
So i knew something... |
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Why are you comparing regular models with Bitcoin? Why is this a bubble and not a mass adoption somewhere on Earth? What are the differences? How do you know now there are just people rushing in and not wider bitcoin usage?
Usage where and for what? I'm open to that notion but I have no news of such possibility. For what use are they being adopted that I'm unaware of? It seems that the most of the traffic comes from China. I bet you don't know anything about China and why are they using Bitcoin right now. Until you find out you can't emit any statement because you just don't know. There can be several reasons. Maybe the communist party doesn't allow people to have more than X amount of cash on their possesion, maybe it's hard to move money there, maybe maybe maybe. Edit: made a quick google search and found this "China employs strict currency regulations that are designed to prevent large amounts of currency moving out of the country" So there is a real use there if that's still the case. I bet there can be many more that for us maybe are useless. |
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3600 bitcoins per day * 640=2m$ per day to sustain it?
At least. That's new money, based entirely around speculative movement, not utility. Do we know how much money per day we had the last 3 weeks? 2m$ per day doesn't seem too much with this rapid increase. Many walls were eaten and if we consider that not all mined coins will sell the same day then it's a lot less. No I don't believe that $2m/day was a serious issue these past few days/weeks, but that's the nature of a bubble, everyone is rushing. But the more that rush in the more money it costs on a daily basis to sustain it and eventually, the new money won't feel safe. When that happens, the slow and steady decent will begin, or it'll come tumbling down. Why are you comparing regular models with Bitcoin? Why is this a bubble and not a mass adoption somewhere on Earth? What are the differences? How do you know now there are just people rushing in and not wider bitcoin usage? |
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3600 bitcoins per day * 640=2m$ per day to sustain it?
At least. That's new money, based entirely around speculative movement, not utility. Do we know how much money per day we had the last 3 weeks? 2m$ per day doesn't seem too much with this rapid increase. Many walls were eaten and if we consider that not all mined coins will sell the same day then it's a lot less. |
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