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39101  Other / Off-topic / Re: Black holes do NOT exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong ... on: November 07, 2014, 09:51:01 PM
she has the "maths" to prove it?
LOL


Black holes indeed exist. We might not fully understand them, or even misunderstand them, but they are there.

And the science in this thread is hilarious!

As I said, you can call anything what you want, even start a bunch of new languages, like modern science is doing.

I love that, even the Daily Mail commenters think this is a load of bullshit LOL Cheesy You do realise that they spotted black holes with fucking telescopes and probes right? They didn't even need to do mathematics to prove they exist, I love religious people like BaDecker, the more science proves them wrong the more desperate they get.

You realize, don't you, that what they spotted with telescopes could be named anything that they wanted to name them? It's the math that backs up what they are, provided there isn't some other math that contradicts the BH math. Now, where might that other math be? Let me see...

Smiley
39102  Other / Off-topic / Re: Black holes do NOT exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong ... on: November 07, 2014, 09:48:54 PM
whatever.


What will it changes my everyday life?

Or my life in any sense?

Stupid science and fundamental research. "What good is quantum mechanics?" said idiot to Schroedinger.

Enjoying your transistors?

As people look to science, and as they deny God and His Word more and more, there will come a time when God won't stand for it anymore. Just like He has done in the past, He will destroy the unbelievers and their culture. So, it just might affect you.

Smiley
39103  Other / Off-topic / Re: Black holes do NOT exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong ... on: November 07, 2014, 09:45:23 PM
So when a star dies, it doesnt end up being a black hole?

Oh look! Here's somebody else that believes stars are alive.   Cheesy
39104  Other / Off-topic / Re: Black holes do NOT exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong ... on: November 07, 2014, 09:44:17 PM
i think i should improve my math

so one day i can prove Sun is not hot   Roll Eyes

We're waiting for an actual first-hand check-out. How long will it be before you get back?   Grin
39105  Other / Off-topic / Re: Black holes do NOT exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong ... on: November 07, 2014, 09:41:59 PM
Well, let's wait the review from her peers. Smiley
Aww, you science types are such a buzz-kill. With you logic and double blind studies. Your ruining the magic.  Cheesy

Actually, it is magic of the strongest kind they are using. It is called the occult - secret. Nobody else can figure it out without going into strict training in their magic arts. And it wouldn't be so bad if their arts were only math, but when they involve finance and politics at the same time, they really get some secret magic going.

Smiley
39106  Other / Off-topic / Re: Black holes do NOT exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong ... on: November 07, 2014, 09:38:24 PM
... claims scientist - and she has the maths to prove it.

From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2769156/Black-holes-NOT-exist-Big-Bang-Theory-wrong-claims-scientist-maths-prove-it.html#ixzz3ELy9C2DR

  • Scientist claims she has mathematical proof black holes cannot exist
  • She said it is impossible for stars to collapse and form a singularity
  • Professor Laura Mersini-Houghton said she is still in 'shock' from the find
  • Previously, scientists thought stars much larger than the sun collapsed under their own gravity and formed black holes when they died
  • During this process they release a type of radiation called Hawking radiation
  • But new research claims the star would lose too much mass and wouldn't be able to form a black hole
  • If true, the theory that the universe began as a singularity, followed by the Big Bang, could also be wrong

Read more at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2769156/Black-holes-NOT-exist-Big-Bang-Theory-wrong-claims-scientist-maths-prove-it.html#ixzz3ELy9C2DR.

What do you think?

That serious scientists don't publish their research in the Daily Mail.

Except that, with the politics of the universities what it is, they often have to publish in the Daily Mail just to get published.

Smiley
39107  Other / Off-topic / Re: Black holes do NOT exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong ... on: November 07, 2014, 09:33:31 PM
I love that, even the Daily Mail commenters think this is a load of bullshit LOL Cheesy You do realise that they spotted black holes with fucking telescopes and probes right? They didn't even need to do mathematics to prove they exist, I love religious people like BaDecker, the more science proves them wrong the more desperate they get.

You realize, don't you, that what they spotted with telescopes could be named anything that they wanted to name them? It's the math that backs up what they are, provided there isn't some other math that contradicts the BH math. Now, where might that other math be? Let me see...

Smiley
39108  Other / Off-topic / Re: Black holes do NOT exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong ... on: November 07, 2014, 09:30:49 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble, but chances are she doesn't know what she is talking about. Tongue

http://www.iflscience.com/physics/physicist-claims-have-proven-mathematically-black-holes-do-not-exist

Quote
However, not everyone is on board with Mersini-Houghton’s conclusions. William Unruh, a theoretical physicist from the University of British Columbia, pointed out some fatal flaws in the paper's argument.

“The [paper] is nonsense,” Unruh said in an email to IFLS. “Attempts like this to show that black holes never form have a very long history, and this is only the latest. They all misunderstand Hawking radiation, and assume that matter behaves in ways that are completely implausible.”

Then, again, that's political rhetoric.  Smiley
39109  Other / Off-topic / Re: Black holes do NOT exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong ... on: November 07, 2014, 09:28:09 PM
u call 9-11 and say your guilty of a crime.  what's the worst that could happen

Your "Towers" could come down in a volley of bullets once they get there.

Smiley
39110  Other / Off-topic / Re: Black holes do NOT exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong ... on: November 07, 2014, 09:26:49 PM
Sorry to prove you wrong but...

... my local government is the final and definitive proof that black holes does exist. If you try to contact them, you're immediately redirected into a black hole, and you could yell, scream, pinch, punch, get wasted, run around naked and screaming, claim you're suicidal, bang your head in a brick wall, beg like a dying man, roar like a lion, adress them politely like a diplomat, or cry like a heroinist trying to get off drugs, all to no avail. You're met with darkness, black matter, nothing, zilch, zero, emptiness, spacelessness, it's the void aka the black hole.

You're welcome.

LOL !

See? It's what I've been saying all along. Black holes are a political idea rather than a scientific one.

39111  Other / Off-topic / Re: Black holes do NOT exist and the Big Bang Theory is wrong ... on: November 07, 2014, 09:24:58 PM
i would suggest you not to believe on false claims unless it is published from authentic source 

Me too. That's why I believe the Bible.

Smiley
39112  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that planets exist? The hell with it, stars are angels. on: November 07, 2014, 08:42:37 PM
However, even science has postulated life that is not carbon based. Consider silicon and germanium based computer chips that we are using every day to come closer to AI.

Since carbon based life is as highly complex as it is on earth - so complex that we still don't know how to manipulate it to grow us a new arm, or to let us live a few hundred extra years - would we even recognize the life that stars have if they ARE ALIVE?

Smiley
39113  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: November 07, 2014, 08:28:39 PM
God will never drag you. With Him you are always free. Come back to the Light. Revive your hurt soul and spirit. Go directly to the loving Father, Himself. Only you can do this for yourself. There is none other that can do it for you. Only you can come into the Light yourself.

You may feel sluggish after eating God's body, but that's just from the carbs.  Whether you see God as a father or mother, the FSM accepts you as who you are.

Why do you always try to cover up your heartburn like this?   Grin

EDIT: Digestive enzymes?
39114  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: November 07, 2014, 08:23:04 PM

The fact of the matter is there is absolutely 0 evidence for young-earth creationism right now.  


That's NOT true. There might not be evidence that you accept, but those are two wildly different scenarios.

The video link was a perfect example. You admitted you refuse even to look at it.

Even the pope is supporting evolution.  

Appeal to authority. Doesn't matter what the Pope thinks when it comes to science, or even Christianity for that matter. The protestant revolution in the 17th century freed us from his 'authority'. The papacy was declared to have the status of a God centuries before that. If that's not fallacious, then I declare myself a pope too.


If there was solid scientific evidence that disproved evolution scientists would be shouting it from the rooftops (and then try to use the new data to figure out what really happened, because that's how science works).

If 'solid scientific evidence' is all you need, I think human tracks beside dinosaur tracks would be an amazing proof against evolution. That's just one example of actual science in Patton's video.

I am a very skeptical person. If science could form a solid case for evolution, I'd reconsider my position. But while evolution is founded on fallacious arguments (like circular reasoning, dating fossils from rock layers, and rock layers from fossils) I'm 100% unimpressed.


Thanks for proving I was right not wasting an hour on him.  The so called man footprints were debunked a long time ago. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html

Science has made a amazing case for evolution over and over and over.  There is a reason only the occasional nutjob like him thinks he can disprove it.

Thank you for the wonderful link to a wonderful website.

Obviously you are a wonderful, sensitive human being. I empathize with you. I, also, do not like being pushed down a street where there only seems to be pain.

The whole goal of God is love. He loves you sooooo much, that He sent Himself in the form of Jesus to die for you, so that you can rise with Him in the resurrection, to an eternal life of love, joy, piece, yes, and even glory. We are your friends, here. Nobody - especially not Jesus - wants to cause you pain and grief.

Forget the churches and the Christians who have done you wrong. Sure, they hurt you for a moment, but many of them weren't trying to do that, and those that were trying, were doing it only because they were in some kind of pain and fear, just like you.

It is soooo wonderful when you simply give yourself over to Jesus. You don't have to keep on straining to prove your own value and worth - not even to yourself. Jesus, Himself, values you so extremely much that He wants to give you the best life of all.

When you join Him, does that mean that there will never be pain again? No. But it will all be gone in a moment, gone with the few, troubled years of this life... and when you have Jesus with you, He will never allow you to be pushed beyond what you can bear, at any time in this life. He will never place you into a position where you can't take the life He allows for you.

Jesus is calling you, now. Come. Let Him into your heart where He can soothe all your troubles of mind and soul. He loves you. Let Him take you into His heart of love. Won't you please pick Him up?, join with Him?, let your troubles and anxieties be relieved? Many of us are hoping for you.

Smiley
This thread is about scientific evidence, not getting all preachy about how god loves me.  I actually was brought up in a very religious home and learned firsthand all the damage that religion can do.  I'm not going to throw the facts to the wind just so I can think my life has a life after this one and (re)join a cult

Oh, coldgamer. I am so distressed for you. And not for you, only. but, also, for the many others who have been hurt like you have.

Do you remember what Darth Vader said to Luke about the power of the Force? He said something like, "You don't know the power of the Dark Side." But what did he do? He found the last remaining vestiges of Light within himself. He remembered the love. His love for his son, Luke, overcame all the forces of the Emperor, and all the forces of the Dark Side, as well.

Come, now, and return to the Light. In the Dark Side you will always be manipulated, just like Darth Vader was. Nobody in the Light will ever force you. The Light may call. It may invite. It may entice. It may even plead. But it will never force.

Why remain with all those that the Dark side is dragging to their doom by capturing them in their time of weakness? They are caught up in a science that is failing them right and left. And it is only the propaganda of lies heaped upon lies that keeps them in some semblance of informal hope.

God will never drag you. With Him you are always free. Come back to the Light. Revive your hurt soul and spirit. Go directly to the loving Father, Himself. Only you can do this for yourself. There is none other that can do it for you. Only you can come into the Light yourself.

Come with us, along side us, and find the peace, joy, love, and even glory, and certainly friendship, that you are seeking.

Smiley

...And you *still* do not understand the difference between science as a method and science as a body of knowledge.

Remember, you use inductive reasoning (the kind that science uses) in every single post you make.   The more you talk, the more you argue against your own position.  Nobody wants to "come along" with someone gleefully intending to commit intellectual suicide.



Remember the original Star Trek series? You can look up to find which episode it was where Kirk and some others were trapped by an alien life form. Spock was in command.

Spock used every strategy he could logically think of to save his buddies and break free. When he couldn't find an answer, he broke down and became emotionally upset.

The Enterprise and the crew were saved, however. And when they were all back aboard, they teased Spock about his breakdown from strict logic to emotion.

Spock had a different idea. His supposed breakdown from logic to emotion was only logical. After all, he had tried every logical means to save everybody, and all the logic failed. The only other logical thing was to become emotional... which worked, by the way.

----------

Modern scientific investigation doesn't have a handle on things like soul, spirit, emotion, consciousness, etc. Science is making strides, but so far there is only objectively looking at, and manipulating them slightly. The point? Since science doesn't have it, we need to use whatever means we have. These other means might not appear to be science, but since strict science doesn't have it, in the whole realm of what we are attempting, any means that are NOT science, are really, scientific... at least until strict science comes up with some concrete and conclusive answers.

Smiley
39115  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: November 07, 2014, 08:11:25 PM

The fact of the matter is there is absolutely 0 evidence for young-earth creationism right now.  


That's NOT true. There might not be evidence that you accept, but those are two wildly different scenarios.

The video link was a perfect example. You admitted you refuse even to look at it.

Even the pope is supporting evolution.  

Appeal to authority. Doesn't matter what the Pope thinks when it comes to science, or even Christianity for that matter. The protestant revolution in the 17th century freed us from his 'authority'. The papacy was declared to have the status of a God centuries before that. If that's not fallacious, then I declare myself a pope too.


If there was solid scientific evidence that disproved evolution scientists would be shouting it from the rooftops (and then try to use the new data to figure out what really happened, because that's how science works).

If 'solid scientific evidence' is all you need, I think human tracks beside dinosaur tracks would be an amazing proof against evolution. That's just one example of actual science in Patton's video.

I am a very skeptical person. If science could form a solid case for evolution, I'd reconsider my position. But while evolution is founded on fallacious arguments (like circular reasoning, dating fossils from rock layers, and rock layers from fossils) I'm 100% unimpressed.


Thanks for proving I was right not wasting an hour on him.  The so called man footprints were debunked a long time ago. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html

Science has made a amazing case for evolution over and over and over.  There is a reason only the occasional nutjob like him thinks he can disprove it.

Thank you for the wonderful link to a wonderful website.

Obviously you are a wonderful, sensitive human being. I empathize with you. I, also, do not like being pushed down a street where there only seems to be pain.

The whole goal of God is love. He loves you sooooo much, that He sent Himself in the form of Jesus to die for you, so that you can rise with Him in the resurrection, to an eternal life of love, joy, piece, yes, and even glory. We are your friends, here. Nobody - especially not Jesus - wants to cause you pain and grief.

Forget the churches and the Christians who have done you wrong. Sure, they hurt you for a moment, but many of them weren't trying to do that, and those that were trying, were doing it only because they were in some kind of pain and fear, just like you.

It is soooo wonderful when you simply give yourself over to Jesus. You don't have to keep on straining to prove your own value and worth - not even to yourself. Jesus, Himself, values you so extremely much that He wants to give you the best life of all.

When you join Him, does that mean that there will never be pain again? No. But it will all be gone in a moment, gone with the few, troubled years of this life... and when you have Jesus with you, He will never allow you to be pushed beyond what you can bear, at any time in this life. He will never place you into a position where you can't take the life He allows for you.

Jesus is calling you, now. Come. Let Him into your heart where He can soothe all your troubles of mind and soul. He loves you. Let Him take you into His heart of love. Won't you please pick Him up?, join with Him?, let your troubles and anxieties be relieved? Many of us are hoping for you.

Smiley
This thread is about scientific evidence, not getting all preachy about how god loves me.  I actually was brought up in a very religious home and learned firsthand all the damage that religion can do.  I'm not going to throw the facts to the wind just so I can think my life has a life after this one and (re)join a cult

Oh, coldgamer. I am so distressed for you. And not for you, only. but, also, for the many others who have been hurt like you have.

Do you remember what Darth Vader said to Luke about the power of the Force? He said something like, "You don't know the power of the Dark Side." But what did he do? He found the last remaining vestiges of Light within himself. He remembered the love. His love for his son, Luke, overcame all the forces of the Emperor, and all the forces of the Dark Side, as well.

Come, now, and return to the Light. In the Dark Side you will always be manipulated, just like Darth Vader was. Nobody in the Light will ever force you. The Light may call. It may invite. It may entice. It may even plead. But it will never force.

Why remain with all those that the Dark side is dragging to their doom by capturing them in their time of weakness? They are caught up in a science that is failing them right and left. And it is only the propaganda of lies heaped upon lies that keeps them in some semblance of informal hope.

God will never drag you. With Him you are always free. Come back to the Light. Revive your hurt soul and spirit. Go directly to the loving Father, Himself. Only you can do this for yourself. There is none other that can do it for you. Only you can come into the Light yourself.

Come with us, along side us, and find the peace, joy, love, and even glory, and certainly friendship, that you are seeking.

Smiley


LOL !

Keep up the cheer. You just might see the Light, yet

Smiley
39116  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: November 07, 2014, 08:07:48 PM
-Cambrian Explosion : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion
-Who created the Univers?

Good science fiction article in that Wiki.   Cheesy

Evolution and the story of the Univers and Earth is incredible and fascinating; what exists is as incredible as what we see/read in SF; there are probably a lot of advanced forms of life on other planets, some most probably way more advanced than us

Life forms on other planets or other locations in the universe - this is something I struggle with.

On the one hand, look at all the grass on earth. Look at the multitudes of blades of grass. Look at all the varieties. So, why wouldn't the heavens be filled with all kinds of other life?

On the other hand, when God created man, and made man to be the pinnacle of His creation, why would He need to create more life elsewhere? Think of that little packet of yeast you add to the dough. That little yeast could, not only, spread through your chunk of dough, but it could spread itself through dough that was a thousand times as large as any that the baker might handle. In the old days, this was exactly how they transferred yeast. They kept a little leavened dough in the cupboard that they used as a yeast starter every time they made a new batch of bread.

The point? It is my contention that the universe is like the unleavened dough. I think that God originally made man to be the propagator of life throughout the whole of space, in a time that would last forever. But man threw it away when he rebelled against god by eating the fruit in the Garden. So, new plan, which you can find out about in the Bible.

What about angels and demons? Personally, I think that our universe is completely inclusive. This means that everything in our universe reacts with everything else, and our universe recognizes nothing outside of itself.

But God, Who is outside the universe as well as within, made each kind of angel (or demon... once demons were angels before the fell away from God) to have their own universe, exclusive to their kind and their kind only (we are the exclusive high-life-form in ours). I am considering the idea that God gave these angels the ability to joyfully work with Him in the creation of our universe. He translated them over, so that they could work with the preparations... not that He needed any help... but rather, that He was granting them pleasure, because it pleases Him to grant pleasure to His creation(s).

I might be entirely wrong in the above, but we don't really have a clear understanding of whether or not there are any life forms out there. We have yet to conclusively find any. And we are so remote (weak) that it just might take another hundred years before we have ships that can actually make it other stars.

Smiley
39117  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: November 07, 2014, 07:43:41 PM

The fact of the matter is there is absolutely 0 evidence for young-earth creationism right now.  


That's NOT true. There might not be evidence that you accept, but those are two wildly different scenarios.

The video link was a perfect example. You admitted you refuse even to look at it.

Even the pope is supporting evolution.  

Appeal to authority. Doesn't matter what the Pope thinks when it comes to science, or even Christianity for that matter. The protestant revolution in the 17th century freed us from his 'authority'. The papacy was declared to have the status of a God centuries before that. If that's not fallacious, then I declare myself a pope too.


If there was solid scientific evidence that disproved evolution scientists would be shouting it from the rooftops (and then try to use the new data to figure out what really happened, because that's how science works).

If 'solid scientific evidence' is all you need, I think human tracks beside dinosaur tracks would be an amazing proof against evolution. That's just one example of actual science in Patton's video.

I am a very skeptical person. If science could form a solid case for evolution, I'd reconsider my position. But while evolution is founded on fallacious arguments (like circular reasoning, dating fossils from rock layers, and rock layers from fossils) I'm 100% unimpressed.


Thanks for proving I was right not wasting an hour on him.  The so called man footprints were debunked a long time ago. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html

Science has made a amazing case for evolution over and over and over.  There is a reason only the occasional nutjob like him thinks he can disprove it.

Thank you for the wonderful link to a wonderful website.

Obviously you are a wonderful, sensitive human being. I empathize with you. I, also, do not like being pushed down a street where there only seems to be pain.

The whole goal of God is love. He loves you sooooo much, that He sent Himself in the form of Jesus to die for you, so that you can rise with Him in the resurrection, to an eternal life of love, joy, piece, yes, and even glory. We are your friends, here. Nobody - especially not Jesus - wants to cause you pain and grief.

Forget the churches and the Christians who have done you wrong. Sure, they hurt you for a moment, but many of them weren't trying to do that, and those that were trying, were doing it only because they were in some kind of pain and fear, just like you.

It is soooo wonderful when you simply give yourself over to Jesus. You don't have to keep on straining to prove your own value and worth - not even to yourself. Jesus, Himself, values you so extremely much that He wants to give you the best life of all.

When you join Him, does that mean that there will never be pain again? No. But it will all be gone in a moment, gone with the few, troubled years of this life... and when you have Jesus with you, He will never allow you to be pushed beyond what you can bear, at any time in this life. He will never place you into a position where you can't take the life He allows for you.

Jesus is calling you, now. Come. Let Him into your heart where He can soothe all your troubles of mind and soul. He loves you. Let Him take you into His heart of love. Won't you please pick Him up?, join with Him?, let your troubles and anxieties be relieved? Many of us are hoping for you.

Smiley
This thread is about scientific evidence, not getting all preachy about how god loves me.  I actually was brought up in a very religious home and learned firsthand all the damage that religion can do.  I'm not going to throw the facts to the wind just so I can think my life has a life after this one and (re)join a cult

Oh, coldgamer. I am so distressed for you. And not for you, only. But, also, for the many others who have been hurt like you have.

Do you remember what Darth Vader said to Luke about the power of the Force? He said something like, "You don't know the power of the Dark Side." But what did he do? He found the last remaining vestiges of Light within himself. He remembered the love. His love for his son, Luke, overcame all the forces of the Emperor, and all the forces of the Dark Side, as well.

Come, now, and return to the Light. In the Dark Side you will always be manipulated, just like Darth Vader was. Nobody in the Light will ever force you. The Light may call. It may invite. It may entice. It may even plead. But it will never force.

Why remain with all those that the Dark side is dragging to their doom by capturing them in their time of weakness? They are caught up in a science that is failing them right and left. And it is only the propaganda of lies heaped upon lies that keeps them in some semblance of informal hope.

God will never drag you. With Him you are always free. Come back to the Light. Revive your hurt soul and spirit. Go directly to the loving Father, Himself. Only you can do this for yourself. There is none other that can do it for you. Only you can come into the Light yourself.

Come with us, along side us, and find the peace, joy, love, and even glory, and certainly friendship, that you are seeking.

Smiley
39118  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: November 07, 2014, 07:15:29 PM

The fact of the matter is there is absolutely 0 evidence for young-earth creationism right now.  


That's NOT true. There might not be evidence that you accept, but those are two wildly different scenarios.

The video link was a perfect example. You admitted you refuse even to look at it.

Even the pope is supporting evolution.  

Appeal to authority. Doesn't matter what the Pope thinks when it comes to science, or even Christianity for that matter. The protestant revolution in the 17th century freed us from his 'authority'. The papacy was declared to have the status of a God centuries before that. If that's not fallacious, then I declare myself a pope too.


If there was solid scientific evidence that disproved evolution scientists would be shouting it from the rooftops (and then try to use the new data to figure out what really happened, because that's how science works).

If 'solid scientific evidence' is all you need, I think human tracks beside dinosaur tracks would be an amazing proof against evolution. That's just one example of actual science in Patton's video.

I am a very skeptical person. If science could form a solid case for evolution, I'd reconsider my position. But while evolution is founded on fallacious arguments (like circular reasoning, dating fossils from rock layers, and rock layers from fossils) I'm 100% unimpressed.


Thanks for proving I was right not wasting an hour on him.  The so called man footprints were debunked a long time ago. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html

Science has made a amazing case for evolution over and over and over.  There is a reason only the occasional nutjob like him thinks he can disprove it.

Thank you for the wonderful link to a wonderful website.

Obviously you are a wonderful, sensitive human being. I empathize with you. I, also, do not like being pushed down a street where there only seems to be pain.

The whole goal of God is love. He loves you sooooo much, that He sent Himself in the form of Jesus to die for you, so that you can rise with Him in the resurrection, to an eternal life of love, joy, piece, yes, and even glory. We are your friends, here. Nobody - especially not Jesus - wants to cause you pain and grief.

Forget the churches and the Christians who have done you wrong. Sure, they hurt you for a moment, but many of them weren't trying to do that, and those that were trying, were doing it only because they were in some kind of pain and fear, just like you.

It is soooo wonderful when you simply give yourself over to Jesus. You don't have to keep on straining to prove your own value and worth - not even to yourself. Jesus, Himself, values you so extremely much that He wants to give you the best life of all.

When you join Him, does that mean that there will never be pain again? No. But it will all be gone in a moment, gone with the few, troubled years of this life... and when you have Jesus with you, He will never allow you to be pushed beyond what you can bear, at any time in this life. He will never place you into a position where you can't take the life He allows for you.

Jesus is calling you, now. Come. Let Him into your heart where He can soothe all your troubles of mind and soul. He loves you. Let Him take you into His heart of love. Won't you please pick Him up?, join with Him?, let your troubles and anxieties be relieved? Many of us are hoping for you.

Smiley
39119  Other / Off-topic / Re: capitalism is a religion. banks are churches. bankers are priest on: November 07, 2014, 12:15:39 PM
Does the definition of "religion" include things that are the truth? What I mean is, does religion only have to do with worship? Or does it have to do with simple living, as well?

Many folks who are simply living use the banks. Sure, they take part in the capitalistic industry. But it isn't for the purpose of getting rich, of dragging in as much money as absolutely possible, of becoming penny-pinchers. Are they partaking of the religion? Or are they simply living?

If God is a reality, is worshipping Him a religion? Or is it only when something is NOT a reality that it is a religion when worshipped?

Ultimately, money saves nobody. Money can bring pleasures, temporary peace, certain kinds of contentment, ease of living, and other desireable things. But money and the acquisition of it also bring troubles at time, a heaviness of heart when one realizes that he can't take any of it with him.

So, even though money is real, does it fall under the classification of religion if it is worshipped? Or is it the fantasy that money can provide complete happiness that makes capitalism a religion?

Smiley
39120  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: November 07, 2014, 11:57:26 AM
Most of the sciences might work like that. But political science, the one controlled by the money, works any old way it wants. And if a scientist doesn't toe the line, he doesn't get funded by big money, who just might want him/her to lie. If he doesn't get funded, his work gets lost among all the publications that GET published, because it isn't published for long if it is published at all.

Young-earth creationism has lots of evidence while old-earth has very little. It's just not evidence that is in the best interests of big money right now. So, political science makes old-earth to be published in a big way, while young-earth is downplayed... by science - political science.

Smiley
How can you bribe a peer-reviewed paper?  Science is science, people make it political.  Nobody is paying to keep the evidence of your god under wraps.  Please, show me ANY evidence from a respectable source that supports young earth creationism.  Go ahead, I'm waiting.

Quote from: Bill Nye
We would need just one piece of evidence, we would need the fossil that swam from one layer to another; we would need evidence that the universe is not expanding, we need evidence that the stars appear to be far away, but they're not. We would need evidence that rock layers can somehow form in just four thousand years instead of the  extraordinary number. We need evidence that somehow that you can reset the atomic clock and keep the neutrons from becoming protons. Bring out any of those things, and you would change me immediately.

"How can you bribe a peer-reviewed paper?"
Bribe the peers. Or, at least, find and publish the responses of sympathetic peers, but not the others.

"We would need just one piece of evidence... "
You don't need me to Google "young earth." Then research the points that the young-earth people bring up.

"Bring out any of those things, and you would change me immediately."
Bill won't believe the witness record of the Bible, anyway.

Smiley

EDIT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=801240.msg9466228#msg9466228 .
It would be kind of hard to bribe the peers since the only one that knows who they are is the journal the paper is sent to, short of them being paid off.  It is really sad that you're so desperate for something to cling on to that you're accusing some mysterious power of paying out a ton of money to keep evidence against evolution underground.  

I don't need to spend all day reading fallacies and information that has already been debunked trying to support your crazy fairy tale.

Yep, a book written by ancient stoners thousands of years ago is totally a good source to figure out the history of our earth

Sounds like you have a lot to learn about the publishing business. If they can, they will, and they have.

Smiley

EDIT: Actually, it's sounding more like you simply WANT it to be, and you are unwilling to investigate.
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