It's back at your top there, sgbett. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Got some at work to buy bitcoin in the dip before futures. ceo also knows about it but his finacial adviser told him against it.
Most of them bough btc and ltc at the same time
"Financial adviser". A Keep-you-poor adviser is more like it. I had a tax accountant/ financial adviser once. When he found out that I had invested majorly into Bitcoin in 2013, he told me that I was a fool and the minute it went up even a little that I should sell it all. I was so irritated with his bad attitude, that I immediately dumped him and started doing my own taxes. If I had taken his advice, I wouldn't be where I am today looking at early retirement. Not even close.
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And Thar She Blows!!!!!!!!
Poor Jamie Dimon, he shouldn't have shorted. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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HAH! I tried to give away bitcoin back in Christmas 2013. I offered their choice, 0.1 bitcoin, 2 ounce silver (canadian mint wildlife series) or 50 bucks CAD. (*gifts of Christmas past, present, and future*) no one took the bitcoin, no one took the silver, everyone took the cash. you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink Haha, yeah no doubt. The horses don't even know what silver is worth... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmp2IqReFQ
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I didn't watch it. I can't. I'd cringe too much. But even totally broken beyond repair, it would never go to zero. It's nearly impossible to imagine such a world. How does he do it?
I'm pretty good at 'reading between the lines' when I hear someone speak. Just like Cramer and some of the others, he's worried about finding enough supply. In their nice comfy little elite world of equities, supply on a new IPO launch is not hard to come by. And with enough supply comes control of the market. But with Bitcoin, Peter knows that supply would mainly have to come from existing Bitcoin holders, a stubborn lot who isn't going to part with them. So the tiny exchange float will have to get bid up to the absolute moon in order to pump liquidity into the futures trading market. Literally. Like they would have to bid Bitcoin up to $100k/btc to reach optimum liquidity. And he fears that such a price would ring the bell of many of the original Bitcoin holders, who then would dump all of their bitcoin back into the market. Thus in his mind sending bitcoin "back to zero". But we all know that would just never happen. Those original early adopters are already sitting on tens of thousands of bitcoins and have been for eons, and they haven't sold them all yet. In fact the higher the price goes, the more hodling they will do. They are probably thinking generational wealth. I know I am.
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This is the second time I've heard him say that "long term Bitcoin will be zero". I can't even process how he came to that conclusion, since Bitcoin has seemingly been non-zero (and climbing) for 8 years now WITHOUT a futures market.
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Holy shit guys, massive volume on the futures, a full 70 BTC traded so far....
I am sure it will pick up though.
Yes this has been a case of the flea wagging the dog. The only way for them to build massive liquidity in XBT Futures is to buy LOTS of bitcoin. Which is like shoving the contents of Lake Superior through a backyard water hose. It will take them years of pumping.
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And, it seems quite likely that there are going to be a lot of folks have their come to Jesus moment at an even higher price point.
I've been thinking about this as well. I mean, after a futures market and eventual ETFs, what other "legitimacy event" do the Average Joes of the world need? What else is it going to take for them to wake up start taking Bitcoin seriously? I'm guessing what they need is all the world's MSM websites, financial experts, Nobel prize winning economists, Warren Buffett, Jamie Dimon, and maybe even Prof. Bitcorn himself to tell the people that Bitcoin is "A-Ok" and they should get invested.
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I loughed so hard, it still hurts ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Here, let me try: Seven lies that Fiat-lovers tell themselves and anyone else who will listen1. The dollar has value because it's backed by the Fed and the U.S. Govt. 2. A dollar today is as valued as a dollar 50 years ago. 3. Dollars aren't used for domestic or international crime, like at all. Nope. 4. Banks keep all of the dollars that you and I have in our accounts, in the actual bank. Each digital $ has a real physical dollar backing it 1:1. All those printed dollars are stored in actual vaults. 5. You can go and withdrawal all of your cash from your bank account any time you like, even if you have > $3000, or even $1M 6. When you store your money in a bank, no one can steal it from you. 7. When you store your money in a bank, it'll earn interest on your savings. Shit, already up to seven, and I have like 100 more... ah well..
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A: Because banks will have to put up with Bitcoin trading to support Bitcoin ETFs. That's probably the only reason.
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What people think BOA patent news means: mass adoption of crypto
What it actually means: Cease and desist orders to all existing crypto exchanges, and either no use of the patent or use for proprietary bank coins
Good thing decentralized exchanges won't give a damn. Which exchanges are decentralized? https://bisq.network/http://www.coinffeine.com/
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Aww man, that's just criminal. These banks are going to go extinct.
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How exactly are you going to do an OTC sale for an "obscene amount of fiat" without exposing yourself to extreme risks?
You go to Genesis Trading or Cumberland Mining who telephones one of their nice clients looking to buy. You deposit your coins with them. Their client pays Genesis Trading. When the money is cleared everyone gets what they want. Plus you get a nice man or woman to hold your hand throughout who won't freeze your arse because you're nothing more than an anonymous reference number on a status page. No tense, armed handoff down by the bridge construction site with aluminum briefcases full of Benjamins? No deal! Bitcoiner cashes out $1M to fiat. Two weeks later his $1M is worth $800k compared to the btc he sold. 4 months later his $1M is worth $400k compared to the btc he sold. Gotta love fiat lovers that like to get poorer by the month. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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No one gives a shit what that idiot has to say about Bitcoin.
He created the contentious abomination that is BCash, so he can go choke on his shitcoin losses.
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Welp, taking a vacation from cash trading since kraken is unusable. Withdrew all assets. Damn shame for everyone involved, but there we are.
I'm totally fucked at Coinbase. Sitting on an obscene amount of fiat from a recent sale, but don't have access to my Funding/Withdrawal page. Something 'tarded like below is what I'm getting. Sheeeeeeit. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FA5jLY5x.png&t=663&c=fX17EgKGFZXo6g) This a time delay exploit that the whales traders will be able to use again and again. They will shake people out, and while their fiat cash out is trapped in limbo, the whales will be able to move the market back up and fiat sitting in limbo won't be able to get back in.
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To all those geniuses out there saying that the Futures market will be the end of Bitcoin.
If they really wanted to crash and end Bitcoin, then there wouldn't be a "future" to the Futures market that they have worked so hard and so diligently to create in the first place. Now would there?
Capisce?
Long term, it's going up. Guaranteed.
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^we'll take it!
What the fuck am I gonna do with all that Y?! Who decided that Bitcoin would be denominated in Y and Y weren't we consulted? Must be another Roger Ver misdirection. Y=¥ Y=YOLO
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For your entertainment and viewing pleasure.
This is the "Gotta-scare-those-average-joes-away" and "See-I-told-ya-so-its-a-bubble-ponzi-scam" portion of the show.
Are you entertained?
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