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3941  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 04, 2019, 06:38:11 AM
I find it interesting a lot of the most vocal people here attacking OG Nasty were silent when this exact scenario occurred under Lauda's custody.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4895354.0
I was referring to the fork coins only, not the rest of the circumstances.
I don't know much about the Lauda drama, but I know enough to know the forked coins were handled very different in each scenario (OG / Lauda).
OgNasty returned the forked coins when asked.  Lauda didn't return the forked coins (BCH) when asked.

Absolutely. Yet many of the same people who vigorously defended Lauda, or were silent in that case are here attacking OGNasty.

And many of the people that attacked Lauda were silent  or vigorously defended OGNasty and his history of ponzi schemes and other lies.  Not really related to the topic though.

Nobody is accusing OG of actually scamming here in regards to the Treasury funds, just acting a little slimy.
3942  Economy / Reputation / Re: Is Lauda still on DT? (taking requests for other users too!) on: December 04, 2019, 05:52:22 AM
wait we can use gifs?  I thought they didn't work.

this changes everything.



3943  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 04, 2019, 05:31:42 AM
^^^ There's mountains [Olympus] then an electrified dome [firmament] beyond the plateau, that's the most edge you're going to get!

"And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters." -- Matthew 8:32, KJV



Antarctica - Sorry We're Closed! Our Hidden Flat Earth -- https://youtu.be/NPbhHpeHTiE

Eric Dubay: Foucault's Pendulum DEBUNKED! EARTH IS FLAT! -- https://youtu.be/ek-H23wtzoI

Do the preach about the flat earth at your church?
3944  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 04, 2019, 05:26:59 AM
I find it interesting a lot of the most vocal people here attacking OG Nasty were silent when this exact scenario occurred under Lauda's custody.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4895354.0
I was referring to the fork coins only, not the rest of the circumstances.
I don't know much about the Lauda drama, but I know enough to know the forked coins were handled very different in each scenario (OG / Lauda).
OgNasty returned the forked coins when asked.  Lauda didn't return the forked coins (BCH) when asked.


3945  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Hearings [serious discussion] on: December 03, 2019, 11:06:40 PM
Dems released their report.

The summary is laid out very well and easy to read/navigate.  I recommend anyone not caught up to read the first few paragraphs and then skip to the executive summary section and click around: https://intelligence.house.gov/report/

Full Report (300 pages): https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20191203_-_full_report___hpsci_impeachment_inquiry_-_20191203.pdf
3946  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 03, 2019, 07:22:52 PM
I find it interesting a lot of the most vocal people here attacking OG Nasty were silent when this exact scenario occurred under Lauda's custody.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4895354.0

It also seems like many of the people who attack Lauda the most are defending OGNasty.

If it's the exact scenario I guess everyone that attacked Lauda but not OG, or OG but not Lauda is a hypocrite, and especially OGNasty and Lauda.
3947  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: December 03, 2019, 06:12:24 PM
Looks like Kamala is done.
3948  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia as an empire has no place at the Olympics on: December 03, 2019, 08:00:04 AM
at olympics doping is normal,


That's what Russia thought. Oops.



3949  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 03, 2019, 07:31:31 AM
Many financial experts would even further argue that it's the sign of a competent treasurer if he can make the assets entrusted to him multiply with reasonably risk-free activities  Wink ...
Yes, and the very same financial experts that are rotting in prison you mean?

Really? Multiply the assets for himself, or for the one who has entrusted him with the money?
Both illegal unless agreed and intended upon before.

Double standards.

But he never risked any of the money to multiply it!


Oh wait nevermind:

It's annoying because:
 - Not asking was unprofessional.
 - Taking a private key out of cold storage always has some amount of risk.
 - I now have to spend time on this drama.
3950  Other / Meta / Re: CLEAR guide to red trust for EXTORTION and BLACKMAIL according to DT members. on: December 03, 2019, 06:26:58 AM
Then TMAN is clearly guilty of blackmail/extortion.

This is about the DOUBLE STANDARDS employed by DT members here when certain behaviors SUIT THEIR OWN FINANCIAL GAIN or their own purposes.

How much clearer can I make this??

Shouldn't it be in reputation then?
3951  Other / Meta / Re: CLEAR guide to red trust for EXTORTION and BLACKMAIL according to DT members. on: December 03, 2019, 05:24:39 AM
Broadly speaking, it is not illegal to demand (or ask for) money that you are duly owed. TMAN might have violated debt collection laws in his posts depending on where both he and BetKing are located, and other factors; if this is the case, I would consider it to be a process crime.

I don't condone how TMAN went about trying to collect the debt he purchased, and above all I think it was immature and intended to create drama, but I don't think it would meet the legal threshold of being blackmail or extortion.

Elsewhere in the thread you are quoting, TMAN had purchased alleged debt owed by the person he was asking to pay. Even if the debt was invalid, I believe in this case that TMAN believed in good faith the debt to be valid, and BetKing did not dispute the debt to TMAN prior to TMAN making any of those statements.

Some other relevant facts:

- Betking owes a shitload to a lot of people and it's been almost a year now since the money went missing.
- He's been trying to convince people to stop calling him a scammer so that he can start a new project and pay everyone back...lol
- It's basically devolved into a bunch of shit talking, TMAN wasn't even trying to make any money he even said if he got paid he'd just give it to LoyceV in exchange for the one satoshi.  He's just trying to get a piece of shit to pay his debts or fuck off instead of trying to run another scam.
(check out his trust, if you know RHaver, and you see his feedback, you will understand)

From same thread:

Dean,

You are responsible for the situation you're in right now.  Not JollyGood or TMAN or RHaver or the "hackers" or anyone else.  Just you.

If your goal is to make everyone whole, I suggest putting more time into that instead of trying to play the victim while being a dick all the time.  It's just not working.

Yes... 1000% start making a concerted effort to not be a cunt, start making payments or build a small fund with a trusted escrow and I’ll leave you be. If not the TMAN will do all. In my power to make you unhappy






3952  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [SERIOUS] How do we fix the College Admissions Process? A short list on: December 03, 2019, 04:54:23 AM
Any multiple choice tests are trash. Once you learn a handful of process of elimination techniques to increase your odds of a correct answer, you can literally take any test with zero knowledge of the subject matter and score an A or a B.

Sounds like you've never taken the MCAT.  Or LSAT.  Or GMAT.  Or GRE.

It's not about getting an A or B.  It's about being smarter and more prepared than everyone else taking the same test.





3953  Other / Meta / Re: CLEAR guide to red trust for EXTORTION and BLACKMAIL according to DT members. on: December 03, 2019, 12:55:30 AM
fucking dumb.
asslicking dreg
idiot.
servile assfeltching mind
burger flipper
scum bag.

 Roll Eyes

Did you even bother reading what I wrote?  Not just glancing over it, actually reading it?  Did it occur to you that I was trying to help you?  

YES we read it and NO it did not at all occur to us that you were trying to help us.

1. YOU are LYING and stating WE STARTED ATTACKING PEOPLE

that is a LIE. I just told you Lauda started attacking CH FIRST calling him a liar then when CH said present the lies Lauda refused and just repeated it over and over. Then CH said he would encourage people to review laudas post history to see who was a liar.

that does not even take into account the FACT suchmoron and that other DT goons started attacking CH and trying to get him banned for pointing out MERIT was a pile of subjective, meaningless, cycled, abused and dangerous garbage.

So NO I don't consider casting us in a NEGATIVE light and making up LIES that we were attacking people as you trying to HELP.

Now stick to debating the central points listed in the initial post.


@VLOM

Yes, we believe it is still possible to fight for a transparent set of rules that are applied FAIRLY and EQUALLY to all members. We will not tolerate a 2 tier system.

You are correct the systems of control that theymos has designed have completely transformed this place into a replica of the central banking system with the merits being issued by a tiny handful who collude together to control every aspect of this forum resulting in them and their pals alone taking over all the best rev streams here.

There can be no denial of this, there has been NO attempt to even rebut this because it is impossible to do so.

Just allowing the merit cancer to creep over the entire board (going primarily to those ONLY the DT/merit colluding scum believe will fall inline with them and support the status quo they have engineered) now even creeping into the MERIT VOLUME button for the rest of the forum is terrible to watch.

Secretly theymos can see this is a total cluster fuck and every single thing we say is impossible to deny hence why he will not ever dare enter into debate over the mechanisms and their clear implications.

I mean what other system would Enable, sanction, reward, and entrench a bunch of some of the worst long term scammers, extortionists, willing scam facilitators, with multiple counts of undeniable financially motivated wrong doing to grasp the positions of TRUST and POWER/INFLUENCE (merit) and allow them to use this to PUNISH those long term honest members that have ZERO instances of financially motivated wrong doing, always pushed of the fairest distributions of projects , fought the largest of scams ( supported by these same scum bag dts) fought the largest scammers ................PUNISH them for whistle blowing on the worst long term scammers and financially dangerous scum here.

Theymos then even seeks to help these worst long term scammers have their red trust removed ( to keep the peace apparently)  whilst claiming the most honest members here have spread lies and are CRAZY and obviously INSANE  for getting pissed off that he has developed a system that allows scammers to punish honest members for whistle blowing on them. LOL

It is good that he is starting to see these scum for what they really are. WAKEY WAKEY theymos get these double standards pushing scammers well away from merit/trust and any other positions they can leverage for their own financial gain. They only kiss up to you whilst they are using you as their useful idiot to raise the merit to 250 and things are going their way, watch them stab you in the back and start being far less servile once you start to introduce some fair transparent standards ALL members must be measured against.


I mean just look at this single issue here. ALICE who has her phone snatched by BOB. Alice telling bob to return her property or she will report this to the police is a BLACKMAILER AND EXTORTIONIST according to ALL OF DT. Not one say NO of course BOB is a thieving scumbag piece of shit and alice is well within her right to say that and certainly should report it. NO DT says she is a blackmailer.

TMan comes to a thread where people are meant to be forming a LEGAL combined effort to get their funds returned to them. He then starts buying the debts for 1 satoshi and threatening the debtor with doxing and all other manner of threatening shit and " scary words" ohhh... to get his $650 bucks

The same people STEAMTYME who is calling alice a blackmailer/extortionist is defending his mutal dt include and merit cycling pals actions say not blackmail/not extortion nothing wrong at all here. It is a good thing he is doing?Huh oh really??

The double standards are sickening.

We will keep pointing them out where we like when the fuck we like. If the DT members don't like it. TOUGH SHIT scumbags.

If the systems of control want to enable, reward and empower scammers to punish honest members then they will need to be pulled up on every instance of clear double standards we notice.

Start debunking our central points or just remain our bitches to slap around whenever we feel like it.

OR

Start living up to the SAME STANDARDS you want to hold everyone else to.

Adderall or Meth?
3954  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Hearings [serious discussion] on: December 02, 2019, 11:17:53 PM
Republicans released their report on the intelligence committee hearings:

https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/2019-12-02-Report-of-Evidence-in-the-Democrats-Impeachment-Inquiry-in-the-House-of-Representatives.pdf

Haven't read much of it (it's very long) but it seems like their basic defense strategy is:

- Whole thing is a sham
- Democrats are just made they lost, want to 'reverse the election'
- There was no quid pro quo
- Attack every witness separately, even the ones they requested and were appointed by Trump

I guess it's not that surprising, but I still think the best defense would be 'what he did was wrong, but not impeachable, here's why: '  I think they are discrediting themselves by complaining about every single thing and attacking credible witnesses.  Then again, it doesn't seem like there are many people that are willing to have their minds changed either way at this point.

The Senate trial is could to be very interesting, that's for sure.

3955  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 02, 2019, 09:44:38 PM
Is nonnakip's address.

nonnakip = OG ?

or am I missing something here?

Almost positive they aren't the same person.  nonna just help run the ponzi seats.


Let's not forget he gave the " good" forks and all the 500BTC back after years of holding it.

He knew everyone was watching and expecting him to make those payments.
He didn't think anyone was watching for the airdrops though.

"Integrity is doing the right thing even when no one is watching."
-CS Lewis
3956  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 02, 2019, 08:25:31 PM
He returned the huge amount of BTC and now all the "major" forks..
His reputation is only getting better, lol..

He knew everyone was watching and expecting him to make those payments.
He didn't think anyone was watching for the airdrops though.

"Integrity is doing the right thing even when no one is watching."
-CS Lewis
3957  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 02, 2019, 06:03:45 PM
OG handed over the BCH, president has been set there.
But did he have to hand over the BCH and other "major" forks in order to fulfill the contract, or was he just a good guy for doing so?

He didn't have to.  It was obviously the morally right thing to do though.

Handing over the airdrop funds also seems like the only ethical thing to do.

OG will have less motivation to do the right thing now since his reputation will suffer whether or not he hands over the funds (unlike the BCH situation)

Hand over the air drop funds:
Confirms that he believes it's the right thing to do, also confirms that he knew it was wrong to be sneaky about it.  Many will assume he only did the 'right thing' because he got caught.


Keep the airdrop funds:
He might be able to convince some people he did nothing wrong at all since it's a bit complicated. The free money isn't bad either.  I think it would do considerably more damage to his reputation in the long run though.

3958  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 02, 2019, 05:40:26 PM
The question of if the topic of airdrops was discussed between OG and theymos is a question.. I wonder if their has been any mention of this subject between them at all..

I think it's safe to assume the answer is 'no'.

What happened to the "dividend" from airdrops based on Bitcoin holdings?

I didn't know about that.
3959  Other / Meta / Re: The BCH value in forum wallets on: December 02, 2019, 02:35:14 PM
What happened to the "dividend" from airdrops based on Bitcoin holdings?

I didn't know about that. I don't see it as a violation of the treasury agreement, but it's... a bit tacky, I guess.

I don't think it would be unreasonable at all to ask him to send whatever was generated by the Treasury funds back to the forum since he was already being compensated for holding the funds.  It would be unethical to keep them, even if it's not technically a violation of the agreement.
3960  Other / Meta / Re: CLEAR guide to red trust for EXTORTION and BLACKMAIL according to DT members. on: December 02, 2019, 01:49:43 PM
Can you please move this to the Reputation section, where it belongs?

NO because it is not a reputation based thread.

It is a clear guide for people to use when determining BLACKMAIL or EXTORTION as per DT actions/opinions.

It's a reputation based thread disguised (poorly) as a 'guide'.
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