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39441  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why girl closes her eyes when boy kiss her ??? on: January 13, 2015, 01:09:52 PM
Why does no one ever tell you this shit about women when you're young and need to know about it? Sad

Sex hormones are so strong at that time that you wouldn't believe them anyway.

Smiley
39442  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: January 13, 2015, 01:05:47 PM
Ancient Israel was given a similar (if not clear) command (to this ^^) right in the beginning of the Ten Commandments given to Moses by God. Look in Exodus chapter 20. Israel didn't obey God much of the time.

Smiley
39443  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 12 Dead in Terrorist Attack on French Satire Magazine on: January 13, 2015, 01:01:56 PM
This could have easily been prevented. In fact these guys were known to the police and under surveillance. The office of CH was under attack before, so firearms and the appropriate training could have been given to the employees.

We (usually) don't have firearms in the streets in france, nor organize self defense with assault riffle  Grin

What better way for the government to keep you subject to their powers?    Wink

We don't feel at war with our governments and try to discuss, negotiate, think...

But do you think US citizens (it's just an example of a country where you can bear arms) are less "subject to government power" ?


Yes, way less. To see why, look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917252.0 .

Smiley
39444  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: January 13, 2015, 12:57:22 PM
People in the U.S. don't fear or hate socialism. In fact, they willingly use it all the time. The like it. They thrive on it. Consider a bar situation, or a church meeting, or the gang from work that goes out to the restaurant for lunch. Many popular television sitcoms are socialistic in nature. Sex in the City.

The thing that people hate and fear about socialism is the same thing that people in other countries hate and fear about it - slavery... involuntary servitude.

When government becomes socialistic...

-     There are a lot of people in government who leech off the working populace, with the idea that they are regulating the socialism.

-     A lot more people attempt to get into government just so that they can get rich off socialism, and the government becomes gigantic.

-     People who don't get into government get on welfare.

-     Fewer and fewer workers support more and more of the people. Government leaders like it like this because they are getting rich off the whole socialistic process.

-     When things get to the point of collapse, a few smarter people in the top of government take over to keep the socialism from collapsing. They use force, and the government goes to communism or dictatorship.

So, what is there to like about socialism in government, especially if you like freedom?

The U.S. government and the U.S. Dollar look like they just might be bulging to the point of a collapse. Here is one of the things that you can watch for to tell that the collapse or change (to communism or dictatorship) is near. Watch for the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar. When the Dinar moves towards equalization with the Dollar in a dramatic way, it means that the U.S. government is making a final effort to prop the Dollar up.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=680915&cmd=apop

Smiley
39445  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam and people hates each other? on: January 13, 2015, 12:37:10 PM
Seems like Snail2 is trying telling us that we vote for our government, and then our government that gets voted in, calls us scum.

It is kinda true. Just take a look at these two short Larken Rose videos to see what it is all about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXiLGaiUuRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjWR4_ekego

Of course, much of the info in these videos is common knowledge among the older Bitcoiners. Satoshi knew it, and that's why he worked so hard to make Bitcoin.

I think that the reason Muslims can be violent as they so often are follows this pattern:
1. You are captured by Muslim terrorist forces and held captive. Perhaps you are beaten;
2. The Muslims use "good cop, bad cop" type of brainwashing on you, making you feel that they are your friend, sort of, at the same time you are their captive;
3. Stockholm Syndrome sets it. You might even fall in love with one of your captors, and it is even possible that a captor falls in love with you. At any rate, you become buddies with them because they have spared your life and have even done reasonably good by you;
4. They promise you freedom if you convert to Islam, but you must be sincere, or you will be tortured to the extreme if you aren't, and are found out;
5. Perhaps you have in mind to escape later, but you agree with them just to get some freedom. They never give you enough freedom to escape; they continue their brainwashing; finally you convert for real so that they can give you enough freedom for escape, but you don't use it (a few people do use it);
6. You become active in the Islamic religion, and the terrorist cell that captured you in the first place.
7. You become one of the new terrorists, and the cycle is repeated.

Place a shark in a tank of water. Block off a section of the tank with a pane of glass, and fill it with goldfish. The shark sees the goldfish. He wants to eat the goldfish. He swims full speed at the goldfish. But the pane of glass stops him, even stuns him a little, even hurts his nose a bit. Leave the shark and the goldfish in this situation for many days. After a while, the shark has learned his limits. Remove the glass pane that divides the sections of the tank. Now the goldfish can swim unharmed all around the shark... most of the time. Conditioning. Brainwashing.

The Millitaries of the world are a bit like this with their soldiers. In the U.S., often a person becomes a soldier voluntarily. He submits to basic training. There his voluntary agreement to become a soldier is used to brainwash him into submission to his commanding officers. A few people die in basic because they are pushed beyond their physical limit. Those who don't die become reasonable BRAINWASHED soldiers. Many go on to become officers, and are trained in how to do the brainwashing without even realizing that it is brainwashing that they are doing. This brainwashing remains with them throughout their lives. They call it patriotic thinking. Try to convince a patriotic ex-marine that Bitcointalk.org has any good in it. Difficult. The brainwashing has told him it is foolishness.

Smiley
39446  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: January 13, 2015, 12:03:04 AM
There's just gotta be more fun ways than this to reduce the population of Earth!

 Shocked
39447  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 11:53:25 PM

I watched it and do not believe this story happened because insulting a judge multiple times and being insolent in traffic court is unlikely to ever win. There is a conflict of interest here because Karl is selling a story which is selling his business. Either Karl needs to provide video or audio evidence of these cases or I would like to see examples from third parties with evidence of cases like I have provided.

Additionally, I hope I am wrong and you are right because we have the same goals... I have just seen too many cases where these techniques have been disastrous.

I guess I'm going to have to go with Karl on this one. Kinda like he says in the video, who am I to interfere with what a man/woman believes?

By the way, if Karl needs to prove something, I'm sure he'll do so.

 Cheesy

OMG you and Karl.....can we just help undermine the US' plan to quietly crucify DPR here? This is such a distraction

All right! That's the spirit, sort of. Make some distractions to keep the U.S. from crucifying DPR! Does the U.S. really crucify people? Like on a cross and all that? You said "OMG." He certainly knows what crucifixion is all about.

 Cheesy

EDIT: I know, I know. You really don't want DPR to have success. C'mon, admit it.
39448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 11:30:20 PM

I watched it and do not believe this story happened because insulting a judge multiple times and being insolent in traffic court is unlikely to ever win. There is a conflict of interest here because Karl is selling a story which is selling his business. Either Karl needs to provide video or audio evidence of these cases or I would like to see examples from third parties with evidence of cases like I have provided.

Additionally, I hope I am wrong and you are right because we have the same goals... I have just seen too many cases where these techniques have been disastrous.

I guess I'm going to have to go with Karl on this one. Kinda like he says in the video, who am I to interfere with what a man/woman believes?

By the way, if Karl needs to prove something, I'm sure he'll do so.

 Cheesy
39449  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 10:17:38 PM


All people are sovereign. Unfortunately, the folks in these videos tried to make sovereignty into something that it isn't. They certainly didn't attempt to do what they are doing anything like Karl would have. For example. Read the things starting at the top right of this website, http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/.

Smiley

I agree with you in principle , but the people who end up kidnapping and torturing you are not principled.
I understand you are suggesting that Karl has the special formula for attacking things the right way . What I am curious is are example of it working, and until than it is just a hypothesis.

This video is fun. Watch Karl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&index=10&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D .

Smiley
39450  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 10:11:32 PM
If O.J. did it the way Karl suggests, he would have been out of jail and on the streets inside of a month, completely free and innocent. Actually, I don't know much about the trial, but it would have been over fast.

The interesting thing about this is, if you have a friend or relative in prison for virtually nothing, especially if there never was a jury trial, you can help him/her reopen the case, do it by common law on looking for testimony of harm or damage, requiring the judge to return your property (your friend or relative) to you, and get him/her out of there. Study Karl's stuff. There's enough free info on Youtube to do this. But use your head real well.
http://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwyBESRGpm1vZRErvtSmNGg
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw

Smiley


Thus far you have suggested Johnnie Cochran as a lawyer who had success which is exactly what my original recommendation was. Avoid being arrested and if arrested get a professional high priced sleazy lawyer or just try and minimize the damage as much as possible with a plea deal.

Let me know when you have an example of someone wining a case or avoiding trouble doing as Karl suggests.

Until than their is a whole bunch of videos online of people getting destroyed using some of these techniques:
https://www.youtube.com/user/FreeKeene/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InTr2i3JqEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfVbiefMdNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnGXnysFkdU

All people are sovereign. Unfortunately, the folks in these videos tried to make sovereignty into something that it isn't. They certainly didn't attempt to do what they are doing anything like Karl would have. For example. Read the things starting at the top right of this website, http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/.

Smiley
39451  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 09:38:56 PM

If you have already been through a jury trial, it may be all over for you. Ross hasn't yet. There is hope for him. But not if he plays by their rules.

Smiley

Can you cite any cases where these techniques have proved successful? What percentage of the time they are effective?

The only one I have off the tip of my tongue is the O.J. Simpson trial. Everybody knows and knew that he was guilty. The reason he remained free was that they couldn't find anyone from law enforcement that would verify under oath that the lab specimens had not been tampered with. The chain of guilt was broken at that point. The common law in the case was simple. Yet it broke the whole case for the government.

Most of the time there is little recorded about a common law case. Government dismisses before there is anything to record. Go through Karl's stuff. You will be able to track down some cases if you work at it.

Listen here http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-127469/TS-932424.mp3, but you may feel that you have wasted your time.

Smiley

If you are citing the OJ trial than you are agreeing with me. Perhaps, Cochran did use some common law techniques , but he had a whole bag of tricks to get OJ off . So yes, hire a sleazy attorney like Cochran and not a guy like Karl to get you off.

I am listening to other recordings you have provided me now and they sound very familiar examples of techniques friends have used that have led them into more problems and larger sentences with the court. There are many anarchists in the free state project who initially tried these techniques and none of them worked.

If O.J. did it the way Karl suggests, he would have been out of jail and on the streets inside of a month, completely free and innocent. Actually, I don't know much about the trial, but it would have been over fast.

The interesting thing about this is, if you have a friend or relative in prison for virtually nothing, especially if there never was a jury trial, you can help him/her reopen the case, do it by common law on looking for testimony of harm or damage, requiring the judge to return your property (your friend or relative) to you, and get him/her out of there. Study Karl's stuff. There's enough free info on Youtube to do this. But use your head real well.
http://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwyBESRGpm1vZRErvtSmNGg
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw

Smiley
39452  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 09:27:19 PM

That's right. So, don't play it by their rules.

Their rules are the IRS Code. These aren't your rules. Common law of harm and damage is your rules.

Smiley

The problem is that the sovereign citizen movement is attempting to outsmart judges and prosecutors by playing by some of their rules that they sometimes use. The judges and prosecutors don't care for these tactics and they will either ignore them or get angry and punish those using these techniques.

There may be a few cases where it has helped but in a majority of the cases using common law techniques makes things much worse for the defendant.

If you are arrested you already lost and your goal is to try and minimize the damage as quickly as possible. We don't need any more examples to show the hypocrisy and duplicity of the justice system. We want non violent peaceful people free as soon as possible.



Braveheart was a movie about the reasons that the current common law was brought into being. It doesn't have anything to do with us today... except if we want it to. That's why I am telling you now. You have time to learn the ways of common law. Karl is one of the best teachers. Start learning.

Smiley

Rights are claimed, not argued. Now this forum sucks with these 5 minute rules, but the more you know.

Exactly! That's why Karl says to avoid using complaints, or diddling around in their complaint case. Rather, make a claim case of your own. It is the way you exercise your rights.

Smiley
39453  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 09:23:49 PM

If you have already been through a jury trial, it may be all over for you. Ross hasn't yet. There is hope for him. But not if he plays by their rules.

Smiley

Can you cite any cases where these techniques have proved successful? What percentage of the time they are effective?

The only one I have off the tip of my tongue is the O.J. Simpson trial. Everybody knows and knew that he was guilty. The reason he remained free was that they couldn't find anyone from law enforcement that would verify under oath that the lab specimens had not been tampered with. The chain of guilt was broken at that point. The common law in the case was simple. Yet it broke the whole case for the government.

Most of the time there is little recorded about a common law case. Government dismisses before there is anything to record. Go through Karl's stuff. You will be able to track down some cases if you work at it.

Listen here http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-127469/TS-932424.mp3, but you may feel that you have wasted your time.

Smiley
39454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 09:12:36 PM

That's right. So, don't play it by their rules.

Their rules are the IRS Code. These aren't your rules. Common law of harm and damage is your rules.

Smiley

The problem is that the sovereign citizen movement is attempting to outsmart judges and prosecutors by playing by some of their rules that they sometimes use. The judges and prosecutors don't care for these tactics and they will either ignore them or get angry and punish those using these techniques.

There may be a few cases where it has helped but in a majority of the cases using common law techniques makes things much worse for the defendant.

If you are arrested you already lost and your goal is to try and minimize the damage as quickly as possible. We don't need any more examples to show the hypocrisy and duplicity of the justice system. We want non violent peaceful people free as soon as possible.



Braveheart was a movie about the reasons that the current common law was brought into being. It doesn't have anything to do with us today... except if we want it to. That's why I am telling you now. You have time to learn the ways of common law. Karl is one of the best teachers. Start learning.

Smiley
39455  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 09:10:09 PM

That's right. So, don't play it by their rules.

Their rules are the IRS Code. These aren't your rules. Common law of harm and damage is your rules.

Smiley

The problem is that the sovereign citizen movement is attempting to outsmart judges and prosecutors by playing by some of their rules that they sometimes use. The judges and prosecutors don't care for these tactics and they will either ignore them or get angry and punish those using these techniques.

Correct. This is why not to play by their rules. When you make a claim against a person who has harmed you or cheated you out of something, and you take it to court, it is your court. You make the rules.

Don't play in their court. Don't play by their rules. Make your claim, even if it is right in their court when you are asked how to plead. Come back with a claim.


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There may be a few cases where it has helped but in a majority of the cases using common law techniques makes things much worse for the defendant.

If you are arrested you already lost and your goal is to try and minimize the damage as quickly as possible. We don't need any more examples to show the hypocrisy and duplicity of the justice system. We want non violent peaceful people free as soon as possible.

Wrong. You may have lost for a short time. But ultimately, they will bring you to court. Reverse the thing and turn it into your claim, if at no other time, then when you are asked to plead. This is the thing that is being done here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=922181.msg10127507#msg10127507 :
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In court...

Judge: How do you plead?

Ross: I require pen and paper, and leave of court for 5 minutes to prepare my answer.

Judge: Granted.

...

If you have already been through a jury trial, it may be all over for you. Ross hasn't yet. There is hope for him. But not if he plays by their rules.

Smiley
39456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 08:50:53 PM
That's right. Things like this don't "work."

When a judge or attorney or prosecutor goes against the law and the rules of the court, he has to shut you up fast. Why? Because you have your copy of his actions that you can uses against him. And if he doesn't take you out right then and there, you will come and take him out by using his own stuff against him, as proof positive that he acted unlawfully.

Karl doesn't get messed with. No judge is going to outguess him. He has enough experience and guts that the judge will only dig himself in deeper.

The neat thing about this is, Karl is training a whole bunch of us to do the same things that he does. And because there are a bunch of us now, we all stand together, holding up the legal actions of each other.

Stay in the slavery if you want. But there are a whole bunch of us who don't like it this way. And we are doing something about it, legally and lawfully.

Smiley

I am an anarchist and believe your intentions are well placed but my suggestion is made because many of my brethren have been locked up and harmed using these common law techniques.

watch this or read the book for some background into what happens when you play by their rules:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw3-s172yA4

The battle is better fought from outside of a cage than from within.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oYlJCbqqq8

Smiley
39457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 08:47:52 PM
Also everybody has right to do whatever they want (with their body for example) as long as they don't harm other so why are drugs forbidden but most harmful one (alcohol) to society and the body is legal one?

This is correct. It's about time we get "them" off our backs, by using the things of the Constitution that allow us to do so... against them.

Study Karl and understand, before you jump into anything.

Smiley
39458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 08:45:15 PM
That's right. Things like this don't "work."

When a judge or attorney or prosecutor goes against the law and the rules of the court, he has to shut you up fast. Why? Because you have your copy of his actions that you can uses against him. And if he doesn't take you out right then and there, you will come and take him out by using his own stuff against him, as proof positive that he acted unlawfully.

Karl doesn't get messed with. No judge is going to outguess him. He has enough experience and guts that the judge will only dig himself in deeper.

The neat thing about this is, Karl is training a whole bunch of us to do the same things that he does. And because there are a bunch of us now, we all stand together, holding up the legal actions of each other.

Stay in the slavery if you want. But there are a whole bunch of us who don't like it this way. And we are doing something about it, legally and lawfully.

Smiley

I am an anarchist and believe your intentions are well placed but my suggestion is made because many of my brethren have been locked up and harmed using these common law techniques.

watch this or read the book for some background into what happens when you play by their rules:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw3-s172yA4

The battle is better fought from outside of a cage than from within.

That's right. So, don't play it by their rules.

Their rules are the IRS Code. These aren't your rules. Common law of harm and damage is your rules.

Smiley
39459  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 08:42:14 PM
DPR knew the risks and is getting unfairly punished.  DPR is not much different than a "Sovereign Citizen."  These beliefs, while contrary to law, are not something we need to spend millions prosecuting.  Paying your taxes is an obligation and not paying them is a crime (while taking all of the benefits of tax payment).  At the same time, he's no Aaron Swartz but it is an injustice to punish him so severely for a victimless crime.  He did displace violent criminals with an operation that catered to demands from adult humans willing to also undertake risks.  Society needs to better implement its laws to avoid injustice at all ends of the spectrum.

Paying your taxes isn't the question. Obviously, if the taxes are yours, then pay them. The question is, how do taxes get to be yours? The answer is, one way. You agree that they are yours. That's it. If you don't agree, then they aren't yours.

The IRS and law enforcement will make all kinds of threats, tell you all kinds of lies, put all kinds of pressure on you, until they trick you into saying that the taxes are yours. Once you believe they are yours, there is little way for you to be convinced that they are not. Why? Because you BELIEVE it.

Go the other direction. Make them prove that the taxes are yours. Then, drop back on the common law and get them, as people, to show you the damage and harm you have done to them individually when you don't pay. Did they get cut? Did they get a broken bone? How were they harmed? Prove it and prove that it was you that harmed them.

Quit playing devil's advocate for a bunch of IRS and government criminals that are trying to make slaves of us all.

Smiley
39460  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 12, 2015, 08:30:43 PM
From "How to handle an Arraignment" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy8w3wrvHsY


This is poor advice and rarely works in real life. Courts don't respect common law and the justice system is corrupt and rarely follow their own laws. It is far better to get a high priced lawyer who knows how to manipulate popular opinion and the corrupt system or not participate at all.

That's right. Things like this don't "work."

When a judge or attorney or prosecutor goes against the law and the rules of the court, he has to shut you up fast. Why? Because you have your copy of his actions that you can uses against him. And if he doesn't take you out right then and there, you will come and take him out by using his own stuff against him, as proof positive that he acted unlawfully.

Karl doesn't get messed with. No judge is going to outguess him. He has enough experience and guts that the judge will only dig himself in deeper.

The neat thing about this is, Karl is training a whole bunch of us to do the same things that he does. And because there are a bunch of us now, we all stand together, holding up the legal actions of each other.

Stay in the slavery if you want. But there are a whole bunch of us who don't like it this way. And we are doing something about it, legally and lawfully.

Smiley
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