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3961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you stop gambling (sports betting, casino e.t.c)? on: July 17, 2023, 09:56:53 PM
One of the ways we have to do things to overcome others is to have another type of entertainment in mind , how ? doing sports, doing activities to get organized and stop thinking about what is causing damage, when the damage is very strong , it is very obvious that you need help, therapies, rehabilitation, because sometimes addictions can become so strong as to Overcome certain emotions of People and have a direct influence on your life, and that is what should be avoided. As adults, you always have to be in Control of Everything and not let yourself be Defeated by Adversity.

I've considered numerous times how to stop gambling; it's a dangerous path that no one wants to take. Stopping gambling is not something you do immediately or in a single day. This generally takes a long time before one can totally distinguish themselves from addicts. I do take the time to check the recreational activities that would divert my attention away from gambling; it takes time, but no pain, no gain. It's heartbreaking to see our contemporaries become gambling addicts. I understand their desire for financial freedom, but gambling is not the way to achieve it. It will only lead us into huge debts, forcing us to sell our possessions and valuables in order to settle everything.


This path is not that highly needed if you yourself know the real deal and can distinguish yourself and those of addicts, furthermore, if you're just inclined to gamble just for the sake of blowing up some steam then stopping is not really needed because you I'm certain that you already know your boundaries.
Of course, in fact when you have responsibilities, family, children, I think the issue is more sensitive, you can't go overboard at all because many depend on you as the head of the family, I don't know how the issue will be handled in many countries, but for the most part At least I know that one must be responsible for their actions at all times, the main reasons for being should not be neglected, and if there is no family involved but only one person, I think things should be handled differently here. For example, a person who is single , alone , cannot be without money, for everything they have to have money.

If a person, for the simple fact of not having responsibilities, goes crazy in the easy casino, he falls into other dangers, because who can stop him? oneself must have that self-control as a person and with others.

It's always good to have friends , there are always people who can be your friends and support you when you need it, that's how it works , of course there are very few who really want you to be around you and be well and they can get ahead.
3962  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: July 17, 2023, 09:34:48 PM
Dortmund can find this chance like once in ten years or so as of now. But they messed it up anyway and handed the Bundesliga title over to Bayern Munich. As I believe that Bayern Munich are likely to start recovering and being a more consistent team again with Tuchel, Dortmund's job is harder. However I think that they don't care about how many times they win this title as it isn't the priority.

We will continue to watch Dortmund concentrating on their main goal as usual which is to grow new talents such as Bellingham, Haaland and so on. By saying "to grow" of course I don't mean only their youth setup. They have really good scouts and they should be able to find new big talents at young age.
This season was the easiest chance to win the title bayern team was the most terrible i've seen them in recent years, it was a real shame, but sadly i don't see how discovering young talents and selling them to their competitors and other big teams will help them if i was a dortmund fan i would oppose this strategy since it is time for a team like dortmund to win some trophies.

Well, you don't have to label Dortmund too much, because Dortmund is a team that many of us know as the best of all to prepare great players and sell them, for that reason Dormtund is now being seen as a team that Bayern can be from you to your against, and if it can be because the team is at the level, but since Bayern is a team that can make a difference with any other because it is known that things with Bayern are interesting, they are Fundamental champions and apart from everything they are looking for the best players to have them in their squad, because it is something that we must Consider because they want to Continue being stronger than before.

The scare that Bayern had last time in the Season where they almost lost the Bundelisga , I think that now this type of thing does not want to happen anymore, now they are preparing for it , not only to face teams like Dortmund but also for the other challenges of the Bundesliga and UCL.




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It is said that with PSG and Man United now seemingly out of the race, the decision will be between whether to stay at Tottenham or leave for the Bundesliga this summer.

It appears Kane’s decision to block any move to PSG could start a striker merry-go-round, with the Parisians expected to turn their attention to Dusan Vlahovic, which could trigger Juventus to move for Chelsea’s Romelu Lukaku.

Source: https://www.spurs-web.com/spurs-news/report-harry-kane-is-prepared-to-reject-a-move-to-european-giants/
3963  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: July 17, 2023, 08:58:58 PM
~snip~
I don't think Messi will just leave football... The World Cup is three years away, that's not much time... Although it would probably be nice for him to retire from football after his team won the cup last year... If Messi stays in the national team, it's not certain they can win in 2026... And this championship will definitely be his last... I can't assume anything about Ronaldo... He was going to leave a long time ago... But he still plays every time...

Messi currently has a contract with Inter Miami until December 2025... that sounds like he will retire by then, and not play the world cup in 2026.

Basically it looks like he's just getting as much money as he can right now and then ride into the sunset.

Maybe he will just continue doing ads, but I reckon he won't be playing professional football in 2026.
Well the truth is this is very sad, I hope to see Messi and CR7 in another World Cup and hopefully they can play their countries, for me it would be a great option to see these two legends, of course if they can obviously I hope to see an Ibra and a Modric if their countries qualify, but the bad thing or the sad thing is that Messi does not make it to the World Cup, I would like them to convince him as they did in the 2014 World Cup in Brazil where he said he was laughing, the bad thing was that he went to the USA for the MLS and there change the mentality of the players a lot, I would have preferred that he had gone to ARABIA.

Personally, I think that Messi can still give much more, he is wasting a chance for Argentina to win another cup, he can do it. In another order of ideas, Portugal thinks differently, they know that with CR7 they did it wrong since they did not put it in the time it was, and they blamed the technical director for that, also in this case it would be interesting to see if Argentina and Portugal collide with these two Titans, that's why I have hope that Messi will play again, the same case applies to Croatia with Modric and whoever wouldn't want to see Zlatan in Sweden again, it doesn't matter, even if he only plays 15 minutes, but let them have him there.


3964  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Casinos Go Bankrupt Because of Player Wins? on: July 17, 2023, 08:35:15 PM
I am not aware of any casino which is going to bankrupt due to player wins. If any site is not scam then there is no possibility of such complaints. There are some scam sites who after running the business for a while plan to make money by scamming. Any such casino platform can hide itself by declaring bankruptcy. But naturally any casino platform has no chance of loss. So I don't think they can go bankrupt. If a casino has a low number of users then that is a different issue but it cannot be due to a player's win.
Yes, the possibility is very small and it seems like it may never have happened. If there is a jackpot, it is certain that the casino has previously estimated the nominal and has prepared it so that they can offer the jackpot because they do have the money and from the jackpot promotion it has actually become a very effective marketing way to attract many people to spend a lot of money to play gambling there. So the possibility is very, very small. But if for other reasons, maybe. Like losing its users for some reason, getting hacked or theft and other reasons.

Yes, without a doubt, I think the biggest risk of all is when casinos are just launching and some casino owners don't have much capital to take the losses they make, or a balloon manages to make a very extravagant profit, I think. this is what you can take advantage of, so this is the danger, I have seen that in the forum for things like this a casino goes to the bottom and they even classify it as a scam, because they play it and want to capture the money of the Players.

There are many things that can be seen and that can be emphasized, but for a player to leave a bankrupt casino if it can Happen, in fact, in gambling, just as there are people who remain bankrupt, some players do the same to them. casino something similar when they are whales, and as the casino one Option is to pay in Installments to maintain its reputation that is so important.

Of course, when a casino fails once, it is very difficult for someone to trust the casino again , because they already know that if they did it once , they can do it again.
3965  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you cheat in gambling? on: July 17, 2023, 08:06:16 PM
But for people who don't want to cheat the system, they will report it to the casino that many people do cheating.
That will depend on each people what they want to do with that and if they think cheating is a bad thing, they will not follow others instead will play as usual.
It's like a mission impossible if don't have a benefit to it. I often find the casino just says thanks if someone finds a vulnerable system on their gambling site. Even if it is very important, the casino doesn't give him any reward or maybe a free bet or something. I think the casino management should think about this. Apart to find out the vulnerabilities, the bounty bug program and review site are good for getting many customers also. The casino must open to any report and must give the prize if someone finds the vulnerability system.
I doubt any casino would reward you for finding out an issue with their operating system that can be exploited by their customers but some casino do give out bonuses on review program carried out on their site and a couple of them are already using this strategy as you have already stated that its also a means of acquiring more customers to the website. Megapari just hosted something similar to this and I know this will indeed attract a lot of new gamblers to the website.

I think that this is a flaw that all casinos have, that they do not reward people who can find certain vulnerabilities, and those who do and participate do not give them great rewards, so when there are vulnerabilities, what they do is exploit them and take advantage of the mistake

To be honest, I haven't seen any casino taking this initiative, and they don't know how important it is, now with AI, this could backfire, because on one hand the casino(s) protect themselves from security, on the other they are the players who are and know about AI who seek to overcome the casino system so that they generate money, this is something that is going to be very important in the very near future, because there will come a time when AI can be very effective and You can win.

We cannot limit ourselves and say that an AI will not exceed the limits of a gaming system in a casino , at this time maybe, no, but I know that this will come, and this would also make all game providers worldwide They have to rebuild all the games and their programming that have AI included so that it does not allow its use.
3966  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever felt remorse after gambling? on: July 17, 2023, 07:44:18 PM
I really enjoy gambling especially if the gambling game is fun such as color game where there's three box contains 6 colors and you will roll it as a dice which is really fun. This kinds of gambling games are popular in my country where you can see some people are always there as if that's where they get their source of living. I've started young with a small amount first and I find that enjoyable even playing cards with adults with just a small bet. But one time I asked for money to my mother when I was a kid just to gambling with my friends after losing a lot, then in the end I'd still lost and my mother asked me what did I bought with my money and of course I lied and I really felt bad since she said that money was supposed to used for buying foods so yeah. I've never used again other's money when it comes to my entertainment.

It's obvious that we felt sad after losing in gambling. Who wants to lose in gambling? No one. Everyone wants to have a win in gambling and this is not possible of course. This remorse increases significantly if you have risked money which should not have been put into gambling and then you lost that money. Sometimes such acts will make your life miserable and will not be limited to regret only. Think that someone took a loan to gamble and lost the money, the remorse in this case is unimaginable. One may be killing himself after such a loss of that loaned money.

The losses will happen in gambling and if the gamblers make up their mind initially, then for sure they won't get too emotional after the losses and won't take more wrong actions.
We as human beings never like to lose, that's like anyone who tells you they like to see things go wrong in their life, obviously no one likes things to go wrong, and if they can find the way to make it so. Well, it will, in games of chance, casinos, and sports betting, when they play and lose, it affects a lot of people, it lowers their self-esteem and it usually hits them a lot, that's why one should always control their emotions and not bet the rest.

If you have a budget only for casinos, you must take into account that this money is willing to lose, you cannot delude yourself with that money, because the emotional shock can be very strong, that is why it is always recommended that you go to play. that the money that is put in the casino is totally willing to lose it.

My ways of betting are very methodical, but they are safe because they will not become an addiction, it is also a way of knowing that there is discipline that supports any movement, so I consider that my method is not bad and you can copy it, because I would be very happy if a person can be helped by what I do.
3967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever felt remorse after gambling? on: July 17, 2023, 03:04:54 AM
I really enjoy gambling especially if the gambling game is fun such as color game where there's three box contains 6 colors and you will roll it as a dice which is really fun. This kinds of gambling games are popular in my country where you can see some people are always there as if that's where they get their source of living. I've started young with a small amount first and I find that enjoyable even playing cards with adults with just a small bet. But one time I asked for money to my mother when I was a kid just to gambling with my friends after losing a lot, then in the end I'd still lost and my mother asked me what did I bought with my money and of course I lied and I really felt bad since she said that money was supposed to used for buying foods so yeah. I've never used again other's money when it comes to my entertainment.

It's obvious that we felt sad after losing in gambling. Who wants to lose in gambling? No one. Everyone wants to have a win in gambling and this is not possible of course. This remorse increases significantly if you have risked money which should not have been put into gambling and then you lost that money. Sometimes such acts will make your life miserable and will not be limited to regret only. Think that someone took a loan to gamble and lost the money, the remorse in this case is unimaginable. One may be killing himself after such a loss of that loaned money.

The losses will happen in gambling and if the gamblers make up their mind initially, then for sure they won't get too emotional after the losses and won't take more wrong actions.
We, as human beings, never like to lose, that's like anyone who tells you that they like to see things go wrong in their life, it's obvious that nobody likes things to go wrong, and if they can find a way that It will go well, it will do it, in games of chance, casinos, and sports betting, when they play and lose, it affects many people a lot, it lowers their self-esteem and it usually hits them a lot, that's why one should always control the emcopines and not bet the rest.

If you have a budget only for the casinos, you must take into account that this money is willing to lose, you cannot make illusions with that money, because the emotional shock can be very strong, that is why it is recommended whenever you go play that the money that is put in the casino is totally willing to lose it.
3968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Easy or hard to quit? on: July 17, 2023, 02:41:19 AM
Can you quit gambling if you make a life changing money and never go back to gambling?

I asked this because those who made some money through gambling near me always go back to gamble and they end up losing everything they once made through gambling.

Is it fine to say that people should not go back into gambling once they made high amount of money? Because the chance of losing that money again is very high, even if they don't use all the money to gamble at once, gambling can take it all back in time.

Have you ever won a high amount of money from gambling and managed to not lose them all back to gambling? And to date, you are still gambling?

Would I still be tempted to gamble, even though I made a life changing decision not to gamble, ever again? Even if that meant I had made enough money to last me 1000 lifetimes?

The answer to that question might be a bit irrational.

I think that even though we all here think we ultimately have full control over ourselves and our desires, the simple and unshakeable truth is: We are only human. And being human comes with a loss of control.

I like gambling and I do enjoy it, as many of you do. And having made it into an enjoyable hobby, I do not think I could resist the temptation and never gamble again. Because at some point, I would give in my urges.

It is true that we as good human beings also need some fun, but sometimes it is difficult because many do not know healthy fun and that includes being able to control emotions and performing many functions, including putting everything on a scale, not go crazy, and control impulses above all, when we play we have many impulses and that is what leads us to make bad decisions.

If we had the coldness of a robot to manage our own emotions, we would be very advanced beings and with many things that we can achieve, but it is difficult, very difficult to control emotions, and even though it is something we can do ourselves, we get into our minds that we are invincible when we play and that is when we lose the most money.
3969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: July 16, 2023, 09:30:48 PM
These are extreme level of madness. Here it have moved to the level of kidnapping his own grandson. With majority of the gamblers similar is the situation, but it stands within the family by promises. They could've promised to their closer ones not to gamble, but out of addiction they won't be able to control themselves. This causes problems within the family.

The old person doesn't have any choice, here the common gamblers have got more choices to arrange money to spend. If not, even the common gamblers into these kind of activities isn't a big surprise.

Well, it's very sad when it comes to these extreme cases, but it's a very real thing and it happens, when we as gamers see some things, we're like, wow, is this in relation to a person capable of doing it? And yes, they are very capable of doing it, I don't know, but I have seen cases in Colombia where, due to gambling addiction , they are capable of kidnapping and asking for rewards from their own families, assuring that the kidnappers are armed Groups, like the "guerrilla" that kind of things look a lot.

Now that the grandparents themselves come to kidnap the grandchildren , well the truth doesn't surprise me , sometimes money drives people crazy , and it doesn't make them think clearly, and it's sad , because there are many values that are lost and it's not So the idea , what is always sought is that there can be limits and respect , many people in addiction forget about this.

The problems caused by a person in addiction can be Multiple , because this is Something that must be controlled as soon as you have symptoms, start a treatment quickly so that it does not happen to the Elderly.
3970  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there play and pay later casinos? on: July 16, 2023, 08:07:36 PM

They are in most cases being too overconfidenced in gambling that they will certainly win, forgetting that gambling is all about taking a risk on winning or loosing whereby the chances of loosing is higher than that of winning if we are to be frank about it, s for the greedy ones who also thinks they cwn be smart enough to use casinos money to gamble and later run away if they don't win, I wonder how many gamblers the casinoe will be chasing after for repayment of gambling loan, lol.
it is foolish for gamblers to have thoughts or do things like that when they are too confident to bet thinking they will win and take the risk of betting pay later or debt to the casino and when they lose the gambler runs away to refuse to pay the loan. actions like this are very inappropriate to emulate because the casino has the power or has the power to find where they go and greedy gamblers like this can be used by physical casinos to encourage gamblers to always bet and are offered a certain amount of money, in other words the casino lends money and must be repaid when win.
unknowingly it was a big deal he had to get while accepting such an offer was like killing himself.

A casino can do many things to have many clients, among them they can generate money with different programs, among them some programs to offer money in the form of loans can be highlighted, but I think that this is something very risky, it is a very reckless, personally I would never choose to have a loan and spend it playing, it is more I think not even to trade, but of course things can be seen in different ways here, if a player is very addicted and requests a loan I think it is something more delicate, you must have the ability to pay, otherwise you should not take it.

I don't think I have seen an online casino in the forum that has that option, but as I say, it is something very reckless, it is not worth taking because it is autolosing in a very ugly way.

3971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you guilty of promising not to gamble for specific days but back next day on: July 16, 2023, 07:20:59 PM
I did it many times back when my addiction is very high, I promise not to gamble after I lose a big amount I even swear that I will not, but the following day I'm back even promising to be better and not lose a big amount again.

How many of us are guilty of this?
I am sticking to a strict budget so i don't need to promise specific day offs for myself.

So even if i had the problem of keeping that promise, the fact that i wouldn't have any budget to play with would protect me from my impulses. And i don't EVER play over my budget. I have done that once and i know it's a slippery slope. Following my own rules make me respect myself and i am hooked on that feeling more then i am with gambling.

Well, the truth is that when this type of thing happens it is because they have had very bad experiences, and if many things can happen, the first thing that one promises or can promise is that one should not play at controlling the jaguar's impulses. , because the bad streak is something that can cause a lot of stress, and it is not pleasant to feel like that.

I have always said something, you have to have the game as an additional option to the fun, we must always Dedicate ourselves to what we like, to our responsibilities and above all to what it does to us every day, that's why the game, the casinos , and sports betting must be carried out in the best way so that it does not become something that leaves us bad, so Sometimes it is not necessary to establish schedules, I believe that one as a human must establish the Priorities of our Life.

The schedules are good when you have work to do, or you have a very demanding job with rotating schedules, that is something that must always be balanced, but before a schedule, you must do something, be in the best of spirits so that it can arise The game is very good, without problems.
3972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you find it offensive to be referred to as an addicted gambler? on: July 16, 2023, 06:06:28 PM
if there is a gambling addict who admits that he is addicted realistically the gambler is a little easier to be given advice to immediately go to treat his addiction to live a more comfortable life without gambling addiction. but it's not that easy sometimes you have to have a lot of support like family, friends and medicine to calm your mind. with some of this support it will certainly provide faster opportunities for gambling addicts to recover soon.

An addict admitting to an addiction is already on the path to recovery. Once the addict realizes that he’s hooked and addicted onto something and admits it to someone else, then I think that addict is open and perhaps ready to give up the addiction and strive for a turnaround in life.
And yes, it’s not an easy task for both the addict and his/her family. The addict would require a lot of care, support and a whole lot of understanding from family and friends but in a lot of cases, that required love, support and understanding isn’t there to aid the addict on the road to recovery and the addict ends up falling back to the addiction destroying whatever progress that has been achieved.
I fully agree with you, but it is very difficult to find a person who has a problem, admits it and receives help, for me he is a person who has a good maturity, of course things can be like this, the important thing about all this is that when one if someone admits it, it is quickly saved from the adversities that addiction causes and I think I would Receive a lot of support from anyone.

Now, as everywhere, there are always toxic , immature people who believe that bad streaks will not come to them , there is someone who is called an addict with a certain contempt, and it is not like that, things when a person has a bad situation, you need everything. attention and help to get him out of there quickly, that's why many people don't recognize their problem because they worry a lot about what they will say, and that seems absurd to me.

Any problem that arises that has to do with addiction is delicate, it has to be given the required importance, there is no other way but to be there to give attention to the person and that they come out Quickly and that they do not advance much , mental health is very important.
3973  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ads for online gambling should be banned. on: July 16, 2023, 05:14:40 PM
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At the end of the day, it is all about balancing- balancing the interests of the government to generate revenue for the betterment of society; and balancing the interests of the citizens to live a life free from all social norms, pressure, and addiction.
That's the point, sometimes the gambling industry creates dilemma considerations while the government wants to keep state revenue. I don't know if online gambling also contributes a lot to that.

However, when it comes to advertising methods, I think they are unlimited. While lately there have been a lot of hidden advertisements in various places (review and rating sites, livestreaming, short videos, etc) so that internet users will not be able to completely avoid the visibility of online casinos.

Here is something very clear, the business model is good for many, both Google and the casinos themselves, it is known that if they invest a lot in public they will have good results and that is something that is noticeable in any Business , in I personally have not seen many casino ads as advertising , very few.

When I connect to the internet despite the fact that I frequent stake.com, bitcasino.io, among other casinos , it is because when I navigate in the Browser it is to get Notifications from the casino, but it is not like that, it is strange , maybe my security is high And it doesn't Allow ads like this either , but on YouTube if I frequent casino strategies for slots , roulette, among others, casino advertising doesn't bother me, I think the industry continues to grow.

Now, as for advertising, I don't know about you , but it seems to me that on YouTube they are very interested in advertising ads, whatever, you see a video and it comes out, then it becomes clear that things when advertising is money for Everyone , this is Something that Cannot be denied , in part People always look for a way to win.
3974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: July 16, 2023, 04:49:06 PM
The Saudis are spending the most to get the players they want. Their financial compensation is something that most players can hardly reject because it is like the highest, they would have received in the whole of their football career. It would definitely put them in a dilemma as to whether they should not do it for the love of the sports or do it for the money. Will he go where the money is or stay as a free agent? I wouldn't judge him if he leaves for Saudi since he is no longer needed in Manchester City.
There are still lots of european clubs interested to sign silva. I think that gonna make nassr feel more difficult to recruit him as a new player.  Saudi pro league has been successfully changing the image of its competition to be potential league in the middle east.
Let's see what kind of answer gonna be given by silva. I think that he will reject it. Remember this if Barcelona and PSG are still interesting to sign silva from manchester city. The way of nassr to get him becomes impossible to happen.
Barcelona may be prepared de jong to be swapped to the bernardo silva while PSG will able to pay him a lot of money like what al nassr gonna do.
So, the conclusion is if silva may not leave from EPL to go to the middle east league as he has still got so many demand to use his service. Silva gonna stay in european league.

The Truth is that it does not Matter if Silva goes to the Saudi League or not, because here everyone is pending, not only in Europe , but they are becoming very interested in Arabia, for me, Since CR7 left , what he did was open the way for the players in Europe to have one more option, an option of where they will have more remuneration and more money for them , where they will not lose level , I have seen that many are doing well , they are generally good players , famous , veterans who already love Europe  They say they can't take it anymore, and look, here in the Saudi League they want them because they obviously have them ready to take advantage of all their technique and their best years to contribute to the league.

Another thing for now they are hiring Players of this style, but I am sure that very soon there will be young players who will not want to go to Europe to play but in Arabia , for this and many other Things that this Saudi league is Having a high llevel , I Admire what the Arabs are doing.

China experienced a failure when the government spent a certain amount of money to fund the expenses of football clubs and clear profits were not obtained because football was not really the most popular sport there, moreover the development of Chinese football clubs could not have success fast enough that's why it would only there is always a loss that can be.
In contrast to the Saudis who are really enthusiastic about being able to advance the development of football there, even the Saudi League so far has always had increasing enthusiasts.
That's why Saudi are able to provide big budgets for football clubs and still survive.

Maybe you don't understand the point of what I'm saying but no problem we just discuss based on opinion yeah it's not easy to understand this situation, I still believe that their main goal is not to make the League famous or anything like that they use football to promote other projects and so far they have succeeded because it has become a worldwide concern and hot news in the media. For now we just enjoy the competition in this league and we have to wait until 2030 to see the results of this project.
There are certain goals to boost their tourism to be more famous through football that has been built at this time, with the upcoming European players of course this is the center of world attention and the media becomes an introduction where the whole world will know about this country and also its league which is now increasingly popular, one of which is the star player Ronaldo and other players.

Obviously we will have to wait a few seasons to see how the Saudi Professional League develops, will it still be as popular as it is now when Ronaldo is gone? Because the center of attention of the Saudi league is Ronaldo.

Well now the Saudi League is on a great rise , it could be said that CR7 opened the doors for other players in the world to see Saudi football as an Option to continue growing in fútbol , not only as a source of big Money but as a real reason for them to be you and have a better chance than even European fútbol , for now veteran players are leaving, famous , but in the near future things are going to change because I know that young players will be attracted to go to Playing in such Interesting fútbol is good Because things going Towards this Change have Made me Grow much more.

Now, here who is winning everything is Saudi Fútbol since they are doing everything possible to bring the technique of those Spanish players to see if the Saudis learn and take all the Techniques they can learn , if we see it from a point of view From a Strategic point of view ,  it is very good and I feel that this way the Saudis can be even bigger.
3975  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 16, 2023, 04:24:01 PM
So far, I think Messi departure at the end of this season will also make their front line lose a little sharpness. I think in the Champions League this season the teams that are really in the top right now are Manchester City and Real Madrid and Barcelona. PSG will try to make a big change in the depth of their squad where they get rid of players who are entering their old age by buying good quality players at a younger age. And they will try to make changes to prepare their strength for next season's Champions league.
Actually, given the information according to which Paris Saint Germain owner Nasser Al Khelaifi held a meeting with Harry Kane's father and brother, I would not bury PSG's prospects for the Champions League this season so much, after the loss of the decrepit Messi. Moreover, Luis Enrique approved this transition. The club intends to strengthen even now, and talk about PSG stopping buying superstars and betting on young players is heard every year after the club's relegation from the playoffs at an early stage, but still does not gain reality.

I cannot deny that things here with Harry Kane if he goes to PSG would really be something great, because the gap left by Messi can be half covered with this player, firstly because he has a lot of quality , secondly because the team needs a lot and the third would give PSG a lot of oxygen, because despite everything Ney is still recovering from his injury and pMbappé cannot do everything alone, if he goes with a teammate like Kane it would be the perfect complement, I just hope that Mbappé leaves his pride to that he can accept Kane's style of play.

The way you say it, I think it's very possible , although to be honest I would prefer that Kane go to Bayern, just to see this team grow even more than they are, and that the Bundleisgta gets very nice , and How they will be at UCL as he would be the perfect Complement as a replacement for Lewa.

Manchester city, will still dominate the Champions league next season, there is not strong team to stop them, almost all the big team has sold their best players to the Saudi Arabia pro  league. it will not be bad if Pep Guardiola will it double, he deserves it.

I think that way too, but UCL always gives a lot of surprises. This season includes Inter who are not expected to enter the Final. At the moment Man City is my first seed. Maybe besides Man City this season Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, are other clubs that may be able to reach the Final next season.  Others may be PSG and Arsenal.
O yes, I read if 2024/2025 there will be a new format. There will be 36 teams to increase the amount of income. In addition, in the round of 16 there is a possibility that teams in one country can play each other.

Source: https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/how-the-new-champions-league-format-actually-works
It is not only Man City that is in the world or that are the best. There are also strong clubs out there who will partake in the champions league that have learnt their mistake from last season and they are doing everything possible to make sure that they can be the winner of next season. Man City might not take their preparations that serious because they are still in a joyful state,and this can affect their performance next season. One shouldn't underestimate any club that is playing in the champions league because all clubs are champions in their various domestic league. If Mbappe can go to Real Madrid,who is Man City that will challenge them. I also looking forward to see Bayern Munich and Barca to see their performance this season in UCL.

I think that City has already done enough to be at the top, and of course the celebrations, everything related to it is something that will always be revealed, and Pepe Guardiola is someone who knows how to do things, he already showed us that he is capable of reading any game with great accuracy, that is something that I admire him, it reminds me of when he was the coach of Barcelona, he was incredible but he did not give Real Madrid a chance at that time, all that experience is very Currently valued and applicable at City.

Barcelona is a team that promises, it may be that they do things better in the UCL, everyone expects that, we have to see how things continue to develop, for now the expectations are very high in the UCL.

Real Madrid, on the other hand, is preparing its Arsenal and very possibly without Mbappé, because the news has already stated many times that they were interested in the Frenchman, but as I have said on many occasions, saying no to Madrid once is like tell him no forever, since the white club has not yet given second chances, I don't think they will give it to them this time, however, you have to wait for anything, as they say over there, you have to let yourself be surprised.
3976  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Friendly Match is Hard to Predict on: July 16, 2023, 03:16:11 PM
We must also not forget that the chances for friendly matches to be fixed go up exponentially compared to official games, during an exhibition match no one is really expecting top performance from the players and they know that weird things could happen, so the people behind fixing games can more easily convince some of those players to throw the game away as it is almost impossible there could be negative repercussions for doing so, and while this is unlikely to happen with the top clubs, it would not surprise me if it happened with lesser known leagues and teams.

Players who consider gambling as a way to make money on gambling will never bet on friendly matches, the exception may be the presence of some insider information about this match. And so there are quite a lot of official matches, and they are almost all year round, with the exception of small periods of the off-season. Friendly matches are a good way for a coach to assess the current condition of the players, which is why in such matches the coach often makes a lot of substitutions per game.

@Cryptmuster I agree with you because player’s will not risk their career by underperforming in these matches especially when the fringe player’s know that the coach will select them if they perform well. @Silberman if any big amount is made during friendlies then the authorities are bound to investigate hence I don’t feel that all friendly matches could be easily be fixed.

These things about currently fixed matches can be seen as something common, especially in matches where there are new players, the results can be fixed so that none of them look bad, it is very rare that those teams that are Brazil or Argentina style reach a I agree, because they are countries that have always had a rivalry for many years, so this is something that is seen, in fact these countries always go very far in world competitions, in fact Argentina is champion, and that is something that we all know.

When there are preparation matches, for example for the World Cup qualifiers, it is very good to watch the games and not get emotional, because a country can show a lot and then when they really have to win, which are the qualifiers, it will be disappointing.

As far as I'm concerned, the qualifiers are the Main source of fútbol matches to prepare for the World Cup, some coaches from the most prominent countries put their youngest players to the test, I've seen that there are even up to 15s in the professional , because There is so much talent that is so good that they can already participate in the team.
3977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: An Intriguing article: How to Perfect Your Gambling Strategy on: July 15, 2023, 08:39:55 PM
Traditional casino games offer the opportunity to bet below the penny, which allows you to start betting without the risk of losses.

So, apart from that there is nothing intriguing with this article, read it and take advantage of it, just as you would with any existing documentation in reference to the game, the truth is that there is not much strategy with traditional games, except playing with money that you can afford to lose and the classic tip; always plays a bet size appropriate to that amount of money you put at risk.

lately many people have been giving advice on how other people should do to become successful with gambling, they talk about things like bankroll management, discipline, not being greedy, others even started to add things like patience, dedication. So far so good, we can think: they are helping and they didn't charge anything for these tips. so since something is free it's ok, but without wanting to be the kind of ungrateful person, we need to ask those people who keep giving these tips, why they never show how much money they put into gambling

how much money did they profit from gambling, how much money did they lose from gambling and how long did it take them to make a profit from gambling, why is it necessary for us to ask this? the answer is simple: for them to prove to us that they are really profiting from gambling, because we all know very well that games of chance do not bring constant profits, we all know very well that in games of chance there is no profit, in the end of the day we all lose money in gambling and that is why gambling must be seen as fun, but some people keep lying that they have a profit and start giving advice

That point is very good, it is like those traders who are influencers, who give signals and claim to be very profitable, but none show their real accounts, where they operate, where they lose and where they win, this is something that must be shown, however, no, as far as I'm concerned, I think these things should be shown, because that's what they're seeing and if they're selling it, let them see it, no problem. for how can they claim to be good when in reality they lack proof? The same thing happens with the players, it's true, they can give a lot of advice, but they don't show their accounts, nor do they stream live to see how they work.

The fact that they give advice and if they claim to be very profitable, then they must prove it, I do not deny that I have given some advice, but I am honest, I know that in all my experience as a player I have lost more than I have won, and the truth is not I am ashamed to say it, this is gambling, things are more random, with the exception of sports betting, which is something else, or to say that everything is left to chance when it comes to trading, that is why this gambling, where respectively sports betting is associated sometimes tends to be highly debatable when certain things are put in context.
3978  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ on: July 15, 2023, 08:06:19 PM
the question is, if indeed Liverpool are able to sign Mbappe with money worth € 300 million after that will Liverpool be able to give Mbappe a salary after spending a lot of money to sign him? I don't doubt Liverpool's finances but here the problem is that Mbappe is the most expensive player and has a very high salary and only certain teams are willing to take risks to get this top player.
from another opinion Liverpool also have to compete with other teams who are after Mbappe and this is what makes uncertain rumors always spread because no team has dared to take Mbappe to be added to the attack line.
But I always keep in mind that nothing is impossible, maybe Liverpool are desperate to sign Mbappe and maybe someone else will get in a bit of trouble.

I think there won't be any other competitor than Real Madrid for Mbappe. Because there hasn't even been a single speculation about an interest by another top team recently. His cost is too much for even rich teams so they also think twice before going for a move. Most of them choose to bring more players in a transfer window to strengthen more than one area by paying a lot less money than that.

I can't imagine how Liverpool would look with Mbappe and Salah in the attacking line playing together. These are both world stars and having this big stars in your team at the same time is always a risk as well. PSG did it great with that trio though but we never know what would happen in a different case.

For a moment I also imagined that duo, Mbappé with Salah, and wow and something impressive, personally I think that things can go very well for both players in that team, of course that is like something that Liverpool will start winning a lot and ensuring victories, he could easily win the PL, but Mbappé will not leave PSG, the only team that I see him may be Real Madrid, and yet I am sure that Real Madrid will not go, because they already said no once , and the truth is that Real Madrid does not give second chances, if it did not give it to Totti at the time, much less it will give it to a Mbappé who is no longer so young, he is still young, but he is not on the radar of the Madrid, and if it's for money I don't see it the same, because Real Madrid has a lot of money.

If they get a lot of money and Real Madrid wants it, it doesn't matter, they pay for it, but they really won't give that money because from the beginning Mbappé said no and he stayed at PSG at that time.

I just feel the owner of Tottenham Hotspur won't want to let him leave and the only way to keep him (HARRY KANE) is to increase his wages (£500 plus) and it will affect his release clause. IMO, Spurs are not doing him any good they're just being selfish.
Tottenham will lose if keep holding him. Because we know Harry Kane's contract is over until 2024 if there is no agreement between them, that possibly Harry Kane will leave Spurs to Munchenc for free. Most likely, one way to benefit one of another: Kane, and Tottenham is accepting the Munchen offers, whatever it is, If Spurs are still selfish, that is possible they don't get anything, Kane is getting old and not so productive as years ago.

Whatever the strategy that Tottenham has, they know that they do not want to let him go, they are also taking advantage of the way they want to put the player, they are also playing with what he wants, because he has already stated that he wants to go to Bayern, and the Bayern is making the pertinent steps so that he can join their ranks, I believe that if Bayern want him and Kane wants to leave, they should do so, Tottenham cannot be keeping him, sometimes it is better to change, the player has not achieved much there In addition, many are telling them that he is a somewhat old player and that can take its toll on him, also in the Bunfeliga it is a football that the player can like very much.

‘We have been told’: Sky journalist shares what he’s now heard about Harry Kane and Bayern



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Sheth shared what he’s heard about Kane now.

“As it stands, those talks have revealed a huge gap in valuation. From Harry Kane’s perspective, interestingly, he hasn’t closed any avenue available to him now. So he is open to speaking to Bayern Munich we have been told if Tottenham and Bayern Munich agree a deal,” Sheth said.

Source: https://tbrfootball.com/we-have-been-told-sky-journalist-shares-what-hes-now-heard-about-harry-kane-and-bayern/
3979  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Conmebol Libertadores 2023 - Prediction and Discussion Thread on: July 15, 2023, 07:18:17 PM
Corinthians is the only Brasilian club that wasn't qualified for next round of Copa Libertadores and will have to settle to Copa Sudamericana

within other countries, only Colombia will have two teams, Equador, Paraquay and Uruguay one, and all other are from Brasil and Argentina, seems as domination
Well, I can't say less, these teams from Brazil and Argentina are the ones that put themselves in context the most to be able to do many things, Corinthians misses me, they are one of the toughest teams there are, personally I think that here are the ones that most The dominate are the teams from Brazil and Argentina, the Colombian teams are also very good, but of course compared to the others the level of football is superior, we also cannot leave out the teams from Venezuela, there are only a couple that always stand out , such as Deportivo Táchira and Caracas FC, are very good teams that show their faces.

Now, if we go further south, we cannot forget that the Paraguayan teams, which are very tough, are really great teams and are very seasoned.

I was late to comment again Tongue

I cant believe the luck Boca Juniors side on this Libertadores, they had the most easy group of all the cup and now they have the most easy draft until semifinals.

The only bad thing they have its.... yes themselves, they are a very bad team right now. So if Palmeiras surprases Mineiro we can see Palmeiras again in the final, sadly.

River has a very rough way....

And no before you ask, no im not from Boca or River hahaha
Well Boca Jr is one of the most emblematic and good teams in Argentina, in fact I don't know if you remember when Riquelme was there, wow he did some amazing things there, also the Bombonera stadium is another level, one of the things that I love the most They like the Argentine teams like Boca and River are their fans and the songs are very good, also the rivalry between these teams is unique, I would not really see Boca and River in a stadium because I feel that it would scare me, there live that passion at the level of the Hooligans, it is something that wow.

Also as they have come, Palmeiras awaits Boca, which is one of the toughest teams in Brazil and with the most history or Flamengo, that is , super early finals , this Libertadores Cup like all of them is getting very good.
3980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: July 15, 2023, 05:19:26 PM
I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

Casino follow this since if not they are the one who will get sued by the government and receive penalties for not restricting minors not to play on their platform. This is the reason why they implement a KYC feature to filter out there users and disallow minors to play their casino.

But its undeniable that there are some minors fake out their details that's why see a few of them still gamble even if there's restriction impose by law and by the rules of the casino.

Well, I have always thought that casinos, besides the age for you to drink alcohol, is 18 years or older, why? because they are considered adults and adults can be assigned the necessary responsibility so that they know that if they do something bad they will pay hard with jail, in casinos the age of 18 seems good to me, because there is already an apparent responsibility, and that it has a lot to do with the number of things they can do, that is, a child is considered to be 17 years of age and under and the law protects them, instead, 18 years of age is absolute responsibility, and since then they should be allowed to do it . Take as much as possible.

For me the normal age for a casino is 18 years, from there it can be considered that the degree to mature is somewhat ambiguous, there are many who are 40 years old and do not mature, but in a casino how they have to handle money, there yes .

Now I have a question, I know that in the Netherlands things work differently, and in some European countries, some very young people aged 12 and over are allowed to do adult activities, have and can drink alcohol, which I am not ok, there is also the option that they can enter sites that are only for adults, they can have access, so I know from the movies that focus on showing that, although I'm not sure, because when I was a child I wanted to have all those freedoms .
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