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June 23, 2023, 01:06:34 AM
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By using AI, data can be collected very easily on all subjects. Especially when a person makes special predictions before gambling but his predictions are not 100% correct but mostly wrong. I think also if something is predicted by AI it is not completely correct most of the times it gives wrong advice. Although AI can calculate faster and more than humans in all things in short time for which people get many benefits using it. However, if casino platforms are forced to make accurate predictions by AI, gambling platforms would surely be destroyed. In that case, if you use AI, there will be no chance of losing, eventually gambling platforms will lose all their money and later scam their gambling platforms. So I think it is not correct to make such predictions by AI and casino platforms will continue to operate as they are currently.

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June 23, 2023, 04:30:42 PM
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I say that is a big no. ChatGPT can do magics and yes we have seen that already. But ChatGPT going inside the gambling site doesn’t feel right. I am not saying it can not win the house but what I am saying is, ChatGPT opening those doors is bit unethical. I don’t like that idea and it takes all the fun out of it. Gambling is not just Money Making machine but more than. You have fun with it, you lose, you win, you bet on favourite sports and much more.

Imagine every other person running ChatGPT through the casinos and expecting them to win every game. How would Casino survive through it and how do you think it can make money for them? First thing they will do is shut their door forever. Lolz
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June 23, 2023, 04:55:23 PM
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I also think AI casinos will hinder big wins because the advanced capabilities of AI are definitely changing the online gaming world for the better. This technology makes website performance more efficient and more secure than ever before. But remember, AI can never replace human intelligence. So, if you think human support at the best online casinos is going anywhere, think twice. Casino games depend on luck and do not help gamblers to win games.
Yes, casinos will hinder gamblers who want to get big wins in various ways, especially gamblers who use AI. Casinos don't want to lose too much from gamblers using AI, and that may be the reason for casinos use AI to keep those gamblers at bay. AI technology will continue to develop, making casinos aware of it and implementing better security or systems so they can continue to run their business. And yes, we should be careful if the casino has started implementing AI in its system because our chances of winning can be reduced, especially with the presence of AI.
Don't misunderstand what I'm about to say.
All I know so far is that as long as the gambler has a way to gain an advantage or beat the casino, I think the casino will have a way to counteract all of those ways and AI is one of them.
I think the casino has used AI for security I'm not sure if it will affect the winnings we will get.
Because the casino uses this AI only for system security, it will not affect the winning luck that we will get, that is much different.
Influencing or not influencing, we will not know because all we know is that playing gambling requires luck so we can win. And if we lose, we can't blame the casino, but it's because our luck didn't come when we gambled. AI will continue to improve. That's all we know for now. But what it looks like and how we can implement it will depend on the developers developing it. And if AI can really help gamblers win from the casino, it will make many gamblers want to try it. But don't expect those methods to continue working because casinos will use almost the same devices to hold back gamblers.

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June 23, 2023, 05:21:31 PM
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We are seeing more and more projects that are almost 100% built on Artificial Intelligence, like ChatGPT. Here are a few experiments that are linked between ChatGPT and gambling....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDthta5sUGQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw3pc-47weg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYegYNkwjR0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFrI6cLD0E

Do you think AI will be more successful to get a working gambling strategy to win the house... and if they do, what will be the impact on casinos?


AI is an intelligent algorithm that work based on data, this means that AI is not at liberty to function outside the data it is presented with. The human brain functions differently, in that it adapts to changes and responds in a manner that suits its benefits. Playing a game, using AI can not be compared to the human brain except the game is not, at will, allows for improvising. I do not see the possibility of AI projects winning dynamic games but it'll be great with static games.
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June 23, 2023, 08:27:37 PM
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AI will no longer take away everyone's jobs, AI will help companies reduce the number of inactive employees by doing that work through AI. Using AI properly requires expertise.

As a result, AI is also creating jobs for many more people, and those who can use AI properly can take advantage of that opportunity. So everything has two sides, good and bad. The actual results will depend on who is using it in what way.
You can say this for now because you still have your job but you will regret it once you found out that you got lay off because of these AI's. AI are still starting and there are more to come from them so it would be better if we shouldn't be confident for a while but if they can do a bad thing, maybe they can also do some great things like they can now accurately predict in terms of betting. Just use them and make more money than the job that you lost.

I think AI isn't that hard to use especially for those who are computer literate or techy person but they can also become more user-friendly later on because their goal is to be accessed by many people and to become popular.
I know AI is coming and I know AI can take my job. So why should I sit down after knowing such a terrible prophecy instead of changing myself? If I don't change myself, it's my failure, even if I lose my job, I won't have anything to do. My point is, we should engage ourselves with AI based technologies now and gain experience using AI. Because AI experts are needed to get the best output using AI. If AI can give accurate betting predictions then why wouldn't I use it to make money from gambling? If I can use the AI ​​correctly then at the end of the day I will win. So I am preparing myself from my side, everyone may have different perspective here.

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June 23, 2023, 08:40:25 PM
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I also think AI casinos will hinder big wins because the advanced capabilities of AI are definitely changing the online gaming world for the better. This technology makes website performance more efficient and more secure than ever before. But remember, AI can never replace human intelligence. So, if you think human support at the best online casinos is going anywhere, think twice. Casino games depend on luck and do not help gamblers to win games.
Yes, casinos will hinder gamblers who want to get big wins in various ways, especially gamblers who use AI. Casinos don't want to lose too much from gamblers using AI, and that may be the reason for casinos use AI to keep those gamblers at bay. AI technology will continue to develop, making casinos aware of it and implementing better security or systems so they can continue to run their business. And yes, we should be careful if the casino has started implementing AI in its system because our chances of winning can be reduced, especially with the presence of AI.
Don't misunderstand what I'm about to say.
All I know so far is that as long as the gambler has a way to gain an advantage or beat the casino, I think the casino will have a way to counteract all of those ways and AI is one of them.
I think the casino has used AI for security I'm not sure if it will affect the winnings we will get.
Because the casino uses this AI only for system security, it will not affect the winning luck that we will get, that is much different.
Influencing or not influencing, we will not know because all we know is that playing gambling requires luck so we can win. And if we lose, we can't blame the casino, but it's because our luck didn't come when we gambled. AI will continue to improve. That's all we know for now. But what it looks like and how we can implement it will depend on the developers developing it. And if AI can really help gamblers win from the casino, it will make many gamblers want to try it. But don't expect those methods to continue working because casinos will use almost the same devices to hold back gamblers.
Developers creating something that would be helping out gamblers on winning up against casinos? Those devs would be shut down.  Grin but well we do know that this is something that cant be possible because if

it happens then gambling industry would really be in huge decline if we do speak about overall revenue since it had been created to be milked out and its not business anymore but rather it would be a charity
if ever that there some AI related kind of strategy that would work against them.This is why it is really that impossible that we would really be reaching out on this kind of certain state because
no matter how it would progress, there's no way that it would really be used against casinos or certain industries just for the benefit or advantage of its users.

It would be having some benefits but not on the sense on this way but rather when it comes to functionality from the site or platform itself in speaking about AI.

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June 23, 2023, 08:49:24 PM
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I say that is a big no. ChatGPT can do magics and yes we have seen that already. But ChatGPT going inside the gambling site doesn’t feel right. I am not saying it can not win the house but what I am saying is, ChatGPT opening those doors is bit unethical. I don’t like that idea and it takes all the fun out of it. Gambling is not just Money Making machine but more than. You have fun with it, you lose, you win, you bet on favourite sports and much more.

Imagine every other person running ChatGPT through the casinos and expecting them to win every game. How would Casino survive through it and how do you think it can make money for them? First thing they will do is shut their door forever. Lolz
What can chatgpt does? Can it do contrary to what it is not programmed to do? With time, chatgpt might not be able to win the house some also casinos are building there own artificial intelligence to fight against any attempt by players to cheat the casino.
As technology is flying like a current of an ocean, the same way scammers, hackers, project teams are looking for a safe way to keep the community and programmes vulnerable to bugs and cheaters.

This are growing fast and I know that chatgpt is going to be upgraded to a level that will work like a magic but that doesn't mean that other people in different fields are not working to protect themselves from becoming victims of scammers.









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June 23, 2023, 09:08:31 PM
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In the context of gambling, while AI can calculate historical data and stories to make preditions, the outcome of ganes of chance is inherently uncertain. Even with advanced maths and machine learning techniques, there is always a degree of uncertainty and randomnes involved. So overall, AI can certainly improve the odds or help make decisions, but it cannot eliminate the risk altogether.

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In the context of gambling, while AI can calculate historical data and stories to make preditions, the outcome of ganes of chance is inherently uncertain. Even with advanced maths and machine learning techniques, there is always a degree of uncertainty and randomnes involved. So overall, AI can certainly improve the odds or help make decisions, but it cannot eliminate the risk altogether.
True, it's similar to a guide. In the end, it all comes down to luck. AI will undoubtedly make life easier in the future, but not to the level that earning money, particularly in gambling, can increase the probability of winning over the probability of losing. I don't think casinos would remain still if someone can create an AI like that. Of course, they will create a smarter AI to oppose an AI coz if not casinos will cease to exist which is surely impossible.
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June 24, 2023, 05:30:56 PM
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I also think AI casinos will hinder big wins because the advanced capabilities of AI are definitely changing the online gaming world for the better. This technology makes website performance more efficient and more secure than ever before. But remember, AI can never replace human intelligence. So, if you think human support at the best online casinos is going anywhere, think twice. Casino games depend on luck and do not help gamblers to win games.
Yes, casinos will hinder gamblers who want to get big wins in various ways, especially gamblers who use AI. Casinos don't want to lose too much from gamblers using AI, and that may be the reason for casinos use AI to keep those gamblers at bay. AI technology will continue to develop, making casinos aware of it and implementing better security or systems so they can continue to run their business. And yes, we should be careful if the casino has started implementing AI in its system because our chances of winning can be reduced, especially with the presence of AI.
Don't misunderstand what I'm about to say.
All I know so far is that as long as the gambler has a way to gain an advantage or beat the casino, I think the casino will have a way to counteract all of those ways and AI is one of them.
I think the casino has used AI for security I'm not sure if it will affect the winnings we will get.
Because the casino uses this AI only for system security, it will not affect the winning luck that we will get, that is much different.
Influencing or not influencing, we will not know because all we know is that playing gambling requires luck so we can win. And if we lose, we can't blame the casino, but it's because our luck didn't come when we gambled. AI will continue to improve. That's all we know for now. But what it looks like and how we can implement it will depend on the developers developing it. And if AI can really help gamblers win from the casino, it will make many gamblers want to try it. But don't expect those methods to continue working because casinos will use almost the same devices to hold back gamblers.
Developers creating something that would be helping out gamblers on winning up against casinos? Those devs would be shut down.  Grin but well we do know that this is something that cant be possible because if

it happens then gambling industry would really be in huge decline if we do speak about overall revenue since it had been created to be milked out and its not business anymore but rather it would be a charity
if ever that there some AI related kind of strategy that would work against them.This is why it is really that impossible that we would really be reaching out on this kind of certain state because
no matter how it would progress, there's no way that it would really be used against casinos or certain industries just for the benefit or advantage of its users.

It would be having some benefits but not on the sense on this way but rather when it comes to functionality from the site or platform itself in speaking about AI.
Perhaps, a downturn in the gambling industry could happen until the casinos can hold back gamblers from winning with programs or systems that use AI. And it will be like that, so there will be a time when the gambling industry will rise again because they managed to stabilize things. Gamblers may also look for other ways to win, and perhaps, they will look for more advanced AI. Both parties will probably benefit from the presence of this AI so that they will use it more often in the future.

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June 25, 2023, 09:52:51 AM
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I say that is a big no. ChatGPT can do magics and yes we have seen that already. But ChatGPT going inside the gambling site doesn’t feel right. I am not saying it can not win the house but what I am saying is, ChatGPT opening those doors is bit unethical. I don’t like that idea and it takes all the fun out of it. Gambling is not just Money Making machine but more than. You have fun with it, you lose, you win, you bet on favourite sports and much more.

Imagine every other person running ChatGPT through the casinos and expecting them to win every game. How would Casino survive through it and how do you think it can make money for them? First thing they will do is shut their door forever. Lolz
What can chatgpt does? Can it do contrary to what it is not programmed to do? With time, chatgpt might not be able to win the house some also casinos are building there own artificial intelligence to fight against any attempt by players to cheat the casino.
As technology is flying like a current of an ocean, the same way scammers, hackers, project teams are looking for a safe way to keep the community and programmes vulnerable to bugs and cheaters.

This are growing fast and I know that chatgpt is going to be upgraded to a level that will work like a magic but that doesn't mean that other people in different fields are not working to protect themselves from becoming victims of scammers.
So far, what I know is that using ChatGpt is only for viewing statistics, but it cannot be used to choose an option, let alone a bet, such as for example football sports betting, ChatGpt cannot predict who will win, but it can provide an analysis of the strengths of the two clubs so that one cannot choose one club. which one needs to be at stake because in this case ChatGPT was not created to predict the future.

I often use Chatgpt but it's never useful to help me in betting sports betting let alone beat the house in gambling, it's obviously very difficult in my opinion it's almost impossible for me to even beat the casino because of course they have anticipated this technology to overcome users using Chatgpt to beat the house but in the end the House will always win.

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I am not a big fan of ChatGPT and I don't think they can win easily the house,I used to believe that and still do but lately some intriguing thought has come to my mind,what if ChatGPT can read the programming pattern of a slot machine and to ask him what to do and when to raise the bet in real time,I know this is more fiction than reality although I believe that with enough development of this technology somewhat we can have the upper edge when playing gambling.I know they cannot predict the future in sport betting and this technology will be worthless there but I still believe something can be done out of it against slot machines.

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June 25, 2023, 11:29:22 AM
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I am not a big fan of ChatGPT and I don't think they can win easily the house,I used to believe that and still do but lately some intriguing thought has come to my mind,what if ChatGPT can read the programming pattern of a slot machine and to ask him what to do and when to raise the bet in real time,I know this is more fiction than reality although I believe that with enough development of this technology somewhat we can have the upper edge when playing gambling.I know they cannot predict the future in sport betting and this technology will be worthless there but I still believe something can be done out of it against slot machines.

That scenario where an Artificial intelligence is able to predict or have access to patterns associated with the programming or coding of a slot machine is exactly what makers of slots try to avoid by the inclusion of entropy and random number generators, not pseudo-random but actual random ones.

The intention is to create a barrier which neither human beings and machines can go through and cheat the system of the casino, which is supposed to be probably fair, by the way.

If we started to say that machines could be able to break systems which work with random number generators then our very own software wallets and hardware wallets would not be safe from them. It sounds indeed like fiction.

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June 25, 2023, 11:46:04 AM
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I am not a big fan of ChatGPT and I don't think they can win easily the house,I used to believe that and still do but lately some intriguing thought has come to my mind,what if ChatGPT can read the programming pattern of a slot machine and to ask him what to do and when to raise the bet in real time,I know this is more fiction than reality although I believe that with enough development of this technology somewhat we can have the upper edge when playing gambling.I know they cannot predict the future in sport betting and this technology will be worthless there but I still believe something can be done out of it against slot machines.

That scenario where an Artificial intelligence is able to predict or have access to patterns associated with the programming or coding of a slot machine is exactly what makers of slots try to avoid by the inclusion of entropy and random number generators, not pseudo-random but actual random ones.

The intention is to create a barrier which neither human beings and machines can go through and cheat the system of the casino, which is supposed to be probably fair, by the way.

If we started to say that machines could be able to break systems which work with random number generators then our very own software wallets and hardware wallets would not be safe from them. It sounds indeed like fiction.

And not only that because, if we talk about fiction, casinos themselves would be able to use AI to nullify any advantage players could have because of the new technology (or are the players the only ones that have access to AI?).

In fact, as most players won't be as specialized as casinos, whose business model is thoroughly designed, we could discuss about how non-AI gamblers could win in such a competitive scenario.

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I say that is a big no. ChatGPT can do magics and yes we have seen that already. But ChatGPT going inside the gambling site doesn’t feel right. I am not saying it can not win the house but what I am saying is, ChatGPT opening those doors is bit unethical. I don’t like that idea and it takes all the fun out of it. Gambling is not just Money Making machine but more than. You have fun with it, you lose, you win, you bet on favourite sports and much more.

Imagine every other person running ChatGPT through the casinos and expecting them to win every game. How would Casino survive through it and how do you think it can make money for them? First thing they will do is shut their door forever. Lolz
First of all, ChatGPT is a language model and it isn't a gambling model, so even if there is something like that to happen, there will be the need for another model to be developed that will only be trained based on gambling data and records of the past so that it can act accordingly, I personally don't think that there is going to be anything like that because no one would deliberately make something that can ruin a whole industry.

Also, even if someone does create a model that can be used for gambling and can maximize one's chances of winning, casinos won't sit silent and just accept that being their faith, they will surely act upon it and they will also take preventive actions to stop this from happening immediately.

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June 28, 2023, 11:13:23 AM
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I say that is a big no. ChatGPT can do magics and yes we have seen that already. But ChatGPT going inside the gambling site doesn’t feel right. I am not saying it can not win the house but what I am saying is, ChatGPT opening those doors is bit unethical. I don’t like that idea and it takes all the fun out of it. Gambling is not just Money Making machine but more than. You have fun with it, you lose, you win, you bet on favourite sports and much more.

Imagine every other person running ChatGPT through the casinos and expecting them to win every game. How would Casino survive through it and how do you think it can make money for them? First thing they will do is shut their door forever. Lolz
First of all, ChatGPT is a language model and it isn't a gambling model, so even if there is something like that to happen, there will be the need for another model to be developed that will only be trained based on gambling data and records of the past so that it can act accordingly, I personally don't think that there is going to be anything like that because no one would deliberately make something that can ruin a whole industry.

Also, even if someone does create a model that can be used for gambling and can maximize one's chances of winning, casinos won't sit silent and just accept that being their faith, they will surely act upon it and they will also take preventive actions to stop this from happening immediately.
The ChatGPT is just an example i think. There is no big problem to create another AI with another algorithm. I told before that tried to bet using the AI recommendations and increased winrate. But there are different kinds of gambling and we can use AI only in part of them. Sport bets are easy enough for AI, some games like poker can use AI. But casino games with randomizer will be always unpredictable.

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There’s no AI can defeat a house unless somehow they can analyze the algorithm of the casino for giving a result then this is a possible concept.

Which would be 100% against the Terms of Service, I am sure.
In my eyes, it would make more sense to use AI to help one's predictions on sport betting rather than trying to go all in with it into purely luck based games, like slots or dices. At most, the AI would only help to analyze your loss/win ratio and things which are already possible and easy to do by ourselves. Stake has it natively integrated, by the way.

At least, in sport betting, there is more data to analyze, statistics for each player and even news on their personal life, which could affect their performance. And AI could take all of it and give back a prediction useful for us.

Tho, I doubt just program would be free or easily available for anyone. 

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I say that is a big no. ChatGPT can do magics and yes we have seen that already. But ChatGPT going inside the gambling site doesn’t feel right. I am not saying it can not win the house but what I am saying is, ChatGPT opening those doors is bit unethical. I don’t like that idea and it takes all the fun out of it. Gambling is not just Money Making machine but more than. You have fun with it, you lose, you win, you bet on favourite sports and much more.

Imagine every other person running ChatGPT through the casinos and expecting them to win every game. How would Casino survive through it and how do you think it can make money for them? First thing they will do is shut their door forever. Lolz
First of all, ChatGPT is a language model and it isn't a gambling model, so even if there is something like that to happen, there will be the need for another model to be developed that will only be trained based on gambling data and records of the past so that it can act accordingly, I personally don't think that there is going to be anything like that because no one would deliberately make something that can ruin a whole industry.

Also, even if someone does create a model that can be used for gambling and can maximize one's chances of winning, casinos won't sit silent and just accept that being their faith, they will surely act upon it and they will also take preventive actions to stop this from happening immediately.
The ChatGPT is just an example i think. There is no big problem to create another AI with another algorithm. I told before that tried to bet using the AI recommendations and increased winrate. But there are different kinds of gambling and we can use AI only in part of them. Sport bets are easy enough for AI, some games like poker can use AI. But casino games with randomizer will be always unpredictable.
I have had the opportunity to play chess on a very famous page, but there are some players who have been playing with an AI for a long time, the truth is that it seemed strange to me, because I did not win again, and that frustrated me, but of course competing against a AI is something that is not fair to us as humans, nor do I think it is to anyone, no matter how good it is in sports, because it is like playing dirty, we must play with our abilities and increase them, I do not deny that I have also come across with human persons and the practice of the game is something else, but if you are already at it, in casinos it is a fact that will happen.

I'm sure many players will test the AI they develop during training to see if it works in casinos, but it's very difficult to develop something truly effective while continuing to refine it.

I have been watching some videos regarding the AI and it is incredible, but apparently the AI experts do not Stop working and developing, when you have done some of the AI training you can sense that they can do great things , Of course , I don't know how prepared they are when it comes to gambling , but that is something that can go a Long Way.

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At least, in sport betting, there is more data to analyze, statistics for each player and even news on their personal life, which could affect their performance. And AI could take all of it and give back a prediction useful for us.
Why do you praise an artificial intelligence like Al so much?
Have you proven using Al's ability to be able to predict results and win bets?

I admit that Al can give us quite a lot of information we need, but if only with that information we cannot immediately make predictions for bets because predicting the results when the match has started is far different from just theory.
If predicting using only information or theory, I have also tried it without the need to use AI and it didn't work, but when I bet with predictions made when I have seen some of the time the match took place, it can actually produce predictions that are 80% perfect for winning.
From here I suggest not to praise artificial intelligence too much.

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