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3961  Economy / Reputation / Re: Just a Conjecture - Suspicious Activity Pattern! on: January 30, 2022, 02:57:51 PM
Another interesting fact is that it appears that all of these members are GPU mining with solar power and batteries. What are the chances of that?




Oh no don't say this to him and hurt his fragile feelings  :'
Thing that baffles me is how the hell these bounty campaigns are still a thing, as they haven't involved a bit in the last few years. And from what I could see, they were pretty much similar back in 2017/2018 too yet again altcoin projects think this is a way they will attract investors. This is as futile (and effective) as those bumping services.
3962  Economy / Reputation / Re: Just a Conjecture - Suspicious Activity Pattern! on: January 30, 2022, 02:20:35 PM
Some of the accused have some decent decent merits earned for their posts after looking at those from the main post. They also have some decent posts that should earned them reward assuming this accusations wasn't brought up, that been said I cannot go pushing them when they haven't broken any of my campaign rules (atleast not confirmed, we're just speculating).
Quality of their posts is completely irrelevant in this case.

I just found another interesting thing: three out of for accounts woke up at the same date. Another coincidence? I don't think so. So, Daodex woked up after ~7 months break, on January 07th. 7deadlyBTCIN did the same, after several months break he also restarted activity on January 7th. And the last one is LostEcho who also coincidentally wakes up at January7th.

So we have low level accounts sharing merit between themselves excessively, join the same signature campaign right after each other, 3/4 waking up at the same time and restarting activity. Yeah, they really look like legit members, nothing dodgy going on there.


that been said I cannot go pushing them when they haven't broken any of my campaign rules (atleast not confirmed, we're just speculating).
So you can't remove someone from your own campaign at your own discretion? Weird. One of the reason why bounty campaigns are total mess is because you (and by "you" I mean bounty managers in general) don't care much who joins your campaign, as long as you can show good numbers to your clients. If you really care, you would set much higher standards and  being way more picky who promotes your client.
3963  Economy / Reputation / Re: Just a Conjecture - Suspicious Activity Pattern! on: January 30, 2022, 10:20:11 AM
We can't just go around tagging users because they have merited themselves. If that was a thing then 99% of users on the forum should have be tagged because one way or the other we have been Merit Backscratchers.
While it's true that we  shouldn't tag members for bounty abuse without very strong evidence of connections (which hasn't be provided so far), you as a bounty manager still have right to remove someone from bounty campaign at your own discretion, right?

Even though connection is not strong enough for a negative feedback, I would personally kick that group of the accounts out of campaign as it's pretty much obvious what is going on here. Sooner or later they will slip (most likely by sending tokens to the same address or something along those lines) but why even allow them to get any tokens?

3964  Economy / Reputation / Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services on: January 29, 2022, 06:35:36 PM
<...> this means that the service provider paid for these bumping services... for nothing! I really don't understand the logic behind this. It's like... OP was not even interested in selling his product anymore... like he simply paid to harm the forum through spam!

There might be a simpler explanation. Someone may have set up a bumping bot and forgotten about it. Smiley
While I don't know too much about it, I suspect something like that is possible.
Nah,  I don't think that someone forgot to turn off the bot. One of the selling points that those "marketing services" like to use when selling the bumping is that some ICO tracking sites are giving ratings based on activity on their bitcointalk ann threads.

For example, this is from ICObench, probably the most popular ICO tracking site. As you can see, they track social media platforms, and among them you can find bitcointalk. Only newbies care about ICObench rating but then again, that's their target audience.

3965  Other / Meta / Re: [CHARTS] Brief monthly overview of the local boards activity on: January 29, 2022, 11:57:03 AM
Hello, this is your friendly reminder that the month is almost over and we both haven't done our monthly chore (yet).

Haha thanks for the reminder, as they say "every kick in the ass is a step forward". Cheesy

This month I managed to be more late than usual; on top of my standard laziness, I traveled a lot this month. Cherry on top was covid that finally got me (I was vaccinated though so symptoms were mild) but still managed to set me back. Anyway, Monthly overview should be out either tomorrow, or Monday at the latest.
3966  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: 🏆 Bitcointalk Community Awards [2021] on: January 29, 2022, 11:50:23 AM
Ma joj... Uvijek je bilo i uvijek će biti rasprava oko toga je li nečiji glas trebao biti ubrojen i je li netko zaslužio nagradu ili nije. Ne znam kako ljudima još imaju volje organizirati takve stvari kad se tjednima nakon toga obično vuku repovi. Ne kažem da je to loše i svaka čast ljudima koji se prime organizacije takvih stvari ali meni se definitivno ne bi dalo.
Ja gledam na to kao na jedan od nacina na koji se pokusava malo animirati ljude na forumu te da se forum odrzi na zivotu. Uostalom, drame su stastavni dijelovi svakog foruma na kojem sam ikad bio, a ovdje bar mozes poslat nekog ukurac bez da popijes ban.



Kad je drama u pitanju, sjećam se samo da je Brainboss nagrađivao meritima sve sljedbenike njegovog lika i djela. Grin
Koliko se ja sjecam, postojao je jos neki slican contest za koji je on davao merite svakom tko je votao za njega, nije bilo rijec o ovom istom. I ove godine je jedan member krenuo sa istom praksom, ali koliko vidim odustao je od toga nakon dan -dva jer fakat izgleda debilno. Ali eto, na svakom forumu imas takve likove, izgube perspektivu  pa se ostvaruju na forumu misleci da to neki kurac znaci.
3967  Economy / Reputation / Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services on: January 25, 2022, 11:02:36 PM
This thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.0 has been trashed/removed. So, I'm assuming it has been handled, but your report has remained unhandled for whatever reason. Wasn't me that handled it, I don't recall seeing it in my report queue either. So, not sure of the specifics of why your report has remained unhandled. Usually, when threads are removed, they're automatically handled.
Yeah, looking now at my report history, thread is marked as deleted  but last time I checked (I think it was yesterday), thread was still there, that;s why I mentioned it again. Anyway, good to see that its been deleted, no matter who did it. And for status still remaining unhandled, it's not a problem as I saw it happened before, not a big deal.



3968  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Discussion] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 on: January 25, 2022, 10:32:38 PM
I'm having the same issue, therefore I'm wondering if there's any way someone might skip some categories because I have no idea who or what to place as event of the year/fail event of the year. Is it necessary to fill up all of the categories?
icopress will correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that it's mandatory to nominate members in all categories. Simply fill those that you are comofrtable with and that's about it. I might even leave some categories empty too, if I won't be able to find adequate candidates.
3969  Economy / Reputation / Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services on: January 25, 2022, 10:29:21 PM
PDX? I thought the bounty thread was moved to the trashcan or are you talking about another one I've missed?
Not PDX, another topic that had similar situation like PDX but it wasn't deleted, my report is still unhandled. In past, similar threads usually got deleted so I was surprised that such an obvious case was ignored.

So, few days ago I reported to mods announcement thread that has bitcointalk reply as one of the requirements for their airdrop, which is against the rules.  Few days passed, and nothing happened so far so I am asking if others can report the thread as well, maybe that helps.

Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.0

Here is the proof


Their TG group where that airdrop is spread https://t.me/fundraiselaunchpad



However, this was just an exceptional case, and the users which were contributing to the spam were already banned, presumably because of the bumping.
Well, good to hear that it's still possibility, no matter how rare it happens.
3970  Economy / Reputation / Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services on: January 25, 2022, 10:11:51 PM
Yeah, someone else has already moved it to the trashcan, if you find bounties which are offering an incentive to post, report them right away, and they'll be handled appropriately.
Will do! Can you please check the case that I mentioned in one of my previous posts, where project advertised giving tokens in exchange for comments, but they did it via thier telegram group. Isn't that breaking forum rules as well?


I started to delete each post individually, however I quickly come to realise that pretty much no one else posted on the thread, but the accounts that continued going back, and forth with mostly nonsense. I removed the thread completely. I suspect it was the people behind the project that hired a bumping service, and not necessarily the announcement manager.
Great to hear that is possible! Back in October 2020 I started thread in Meta asking exactly that

I am going straight to the question: Is it possible to delete announcement threads that have no real interest, OP is not sharing news/updates and basically only ones that are active are shill accounts? I know that usual practice is to delete those threads that organize giveaways in exchange for payment (breaking the rule nr 28) , but why not expand it to announcement threads that are doing almost the same thing by hiring one of those "marketing agencies"?

Here are few examples  of threads which are tirelessly spammed for months and meet the above mentioned criteria (no activity from legit members, inactive OP, huge amount of posts deleted due shill account spam):
...

Unfortunately I never got a reply from forum stuff regarding my question. but for me it was kinda logical  to remove those thread completely if there is absolutely nothing else going on, except those thread bumpers leaving their crap. By using that approach, you can make your life much easier as bunch of those threads that can be found on the list fall under that category.
3971  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Discussion] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 on: January 25, 2022, 06:13:40 PM

I saw the note, but it doesn't say anything about active account which never/almost never receive merit. But i trust you'll ignore vote from obvious abuser.
This can be easily avoided if people don't give merit only to those that give them vote and ignore the rest. I know that some people like to use merit as a "thank you", but IMHO in these situations it's best to avoid that practice as some will vote only to scoop couple of merits. I remember last time we had some members who were so lazy that they just copy/pasted other people's votes.


I also haven't idea about some categories and leave them blank. I guess it's more OK than nominating some random members.
I am having the same issue. For now I just left some categories blank and will eventually fill them up when/if I figure out who is the most deserving. Or maybe I am taking this too seriously. Cheesy
3972  Other / Meta / Re: [Voting 2021] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 on: January 25, 2022, 06:01:32 PM
This is just for now as I haven't decided on all categories. Going for now with only one name, but might add couple of more in some of the categories, while some are total no brainers for me, like nutildah for busting that CM abuser.


 1. Absolute Hero of Good: Cyrus
 2. Golden Feather: DdmrDdmr
 3. Bitcointalk Ninja: LoyceV
 4. Bitcoin Geek: dkbit98
 5. Event of the Year: Bitcointalk YouTube channel going live
 6. Fail of the Year: Haven't decide yet
 7. Discovery of the Year: BlackHatCoiner
 8. Best SpamBuster: GazetaBitcoin
 9. Best ScamBuster: nutildah
10. Craft Master: Jayce
11. Antihero: Haven't decided yet
12. Miss Bitcointalk: Foxpup
13. Best Moderator: Welsh
3973  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: 🏆 Bitcointalk Community Awards [2021] on: January 25, 2022, 02:43:02 PM
ScamBuster Rikafip, deFinitivno 🤟🏼
Ma jok, nisam baš bio aktivan na scambusting sceni prošle godine. Ako i dobijem koji glas, to će biti na temelju "stare slave". Po meni tu titulu za 2021 treba dobiti nutildah za ono otkrivanje multi accounta u CM kampanji, ono je baš bilo kvalitetno bastanje.
3974  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is El Salvador in debt because of the bitcoin price drop? on: January 24, 2022, 02:29:51 PM
Because of the recent massive drop in bitcoin, I assumed that this bitcoin drop had put them in debt. If this dump continues for some more weeks, then it might be problematic for the El Salvador government. Because the opposition party has something to blame them for any kind of debt
Debt? I guess you mean loss. They are probably buying BTC as a long term investment and not for quick flip so no worries if you buy the dip while it keeps dipping. That's why dollar cost average (which I guess they are doing) is a pretty good investment technique.


Lol, a good one.
3975  Economy / Exchanges / Re: What do you think about the platform FYBIT.com ? on: January 24, 2022, 02:21:45 PM
Funny enough, another alt account @maks-ivanov89 just woke up and just jumped in the defending Fybit  Grin Grin Grin
It's actually other way around: @maks-ivanov89 recommended Fybit to Maxxx07  in another thread, and then he came here asking about that completely unknown exchange.


Max, please, we are not fools here.

Go shill your shit exchange somewhere else.
Hah yeah, he think that he is so subte in his shilling while everything is pretty obvious.


I will just leave this here for future reference:

write me in telegram: @maxx_trade
Another coincidence.  Cheesy
3976  Economy / Reputation / Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services on: January 21, 2022, 07:26:02 PM
I am posting this here even though I think they didn't hire bumping service, but since we have forum staff active here I thought it won't hurt to share it here.

So, while browsing altcoin section I noticed some weird activity in 🔥✅[ANN]🔥 PDX Coin | Global Payments and Digital Banking Platform & App thread. It didn't quite look like standard bumping service activity, so I checked their bounty thread and saw that as a part of their signature campaign, participants have to write at least 3 posts in their own ANN.


Rules:
...
  2. You must make at least 3 constructive comments per week on the PDX Coin Bitcointalk ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381242


@Welsh This is a clear violation of the rule found in altcoin section, right, which says that "Incentivising posting within one or more threads is not allowed".


From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0:

You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.
3977  Economy / Reputation / Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services on: January 21, 2022, 12:02:42 PM
It's okay, I can do it for you if you want Smiley If you look at my post, you'll see that I asked if you would like me to do it Smiley I will present you a draft here if you like and see how it goes.
Imho, no need to waste time of that since I think that using current "Status" column should be enough, I'll try to sort that out this weekend when I have a little bit more free time. I appreciate the offer though. 👍



As far as I can tell a lot of the threads in the original post are now somewhat cleaned apart from a few exceptions which will take a little longer to go through. I've likely revisit them from time to time to see if we've got any new spam waves, though judging by the activity of a lot of them, I suspect whoever has been behind the spam waves have either quit or moved on.
Majority of those threads simply cancel that bumping service when they see that their thread is going nowhere and posts have been deleted constantly day after day. But yeah, it's not a bad idea to revisit the threads occasionally as some of them will attempt the same thing, thinking that they lost the attention.
3978  Economy / Exchanges / Re: What do you think about the platform FYBIT.com ? on: January 19, 2022, 10:31:01 PM
When I created this question, I did not try to trade there yet. After that I signed up and I liked everything. I didn't hear anything about him until someone wrote to me about him here on the forum. Now this section does not make sense, I liked trading there.
Looking at @maks-ivanov89 praise at Fybit, and you being so defensive about the exchange that you started using couple of days ago, makes me believe that the real purpose of this thread is promotion, and not genuine enquiry about Fybit.

So, this is how I think it went:
1. First, you created the thread asking "Who knows a platform with ALCM function?"
2. @maks-ivanov8 (this name kinda reminds me of yours) wakes up after 6 months break, just to recommend you completely unknown exchange that no one here ever heard of.
3. Several days later, you come asking opinions about Fybit and when some members raised valid concerns about it, you went into defense mode, which I think is very strange since you just started using exchange couple of days ago.


3979  Economy / Reputation / Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services on: January 19, 2022, 10:02:45 PM
Rikafip, did you see this part of my previous message?

Besides all these, I have a suggestion to Rikafip: all topics from OP and post #2 appear as active, but not all of them are active anymore. Would you like me to make an update for all the threads mentioned in OP and post #2, in order to reflect reality? Another thing, maybe it would be better if you would add one more column to the table, named "Cleaned?" and state a "Yes" or a "No" at each topic, in order to be easier to see which ones still need cleaning?

Ah sorry, completely missed that one.

Regarding the first suggestion about updating the status, you are absolutely right. I planned to do that for quite some time, but somehow always found the reason to postpone it. I will definitely try to do that soon, when I have a little bit more free time.

About adding one more column, maybe I should simply edit current status with "Cleaned" and sort that out in a more convenient way, isntead adding one more column as it would take some time considering size of the list. Anyway, will think about it.



3980  Economy / Exchanges / Re: What do you think about the platform FYBIT.com ? on: January 19, 2022, 01:15:57 PM
It doesn't matter to me whether the platform is in the CMC list, because this site belongs to Binance, and he decides who to put there. I think how much money will be paid to Binance will appear in the list. Therefore, this is not an indicator.
Not true, listing on CMC is completely free, for both coins&tokens and exchanges. Now why this FYBIT is not listed either there or on Coingecko is another story. Most likely they are not meeting minimum requirements. Not that being on CMC/Coingecko makes you legit, but still, if you are not even listed there says something about the exchange.



Are you trying to get answers from the community or do you want to defend them? There is a lot of smoke and suspicious things about it so it is best to avoid it, you do not have to use it.
Maybe I am just too paranoid, but it looks to me that real intention behind this thread is to promote this dodgy exchange and not asking about opinion, considering how defensive OP is about some exchanges that he (allegedly) found out couple of days ago.
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