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3961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 20, 2016, 11:45:04 PM
Sometimes experts can't help you and you have to help yourself, there is no other way to do it but to do it yourself, otherwise you never make a real change. You cant depend from external input, it has to come from within to make a real permanent change.

The desire should first come from the addicted person. Without it, no one can force change. But if the person really desire to get away from gambling, friends, family and professionals can make a big difference if they help that person. It is hard to change if you just do it yourself, but with help of people around you, it will be a lot easier.
3962  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 20, 2016, 11:35:16 PM
do 50/50 , 50% for savings like using it for emergency and 50% in investing but you need to have good knowledge where to invest your money cause it will go down or the worst part lose it all when you dont know where you putting your money at. Just start with saving first and if you feel like investing there are many online tutorial to start off you dont need to buy books but if your comfortable reading books much better.

I'd rather save my bitcoin instead of investing it in online investment programs, all of those has a tendency to run when they got plenty investors... Instead of investing on those, maybe I could try investing on real life investments like buying and selling things that I sometimes use... That way I could be sure that no one will scam me and I could use those items if I want to..  Smiley

Or you can invest on stocks. It is better than starting a business of buy and sell. Investing on stocks can create a passive income while in business, you have to actuvely promote your product and sell it. It will.still require some time and attention from you. But in investing stocks, you will just have to invest and go on with your life.
3963  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 20, 2016, 11:29:15 PM
It would be too risky to quit your job but it would be good for you if you would make use of bitcoin too.
Yeah! it is true that quitting our job is too risky as we might not succeed in focusing with bitcoin. Our job provides us a stable and consistent income while in bitcoin we might lose our money, that's the big difference for everyone who wish to go full time with bitcoin.

It is risky if you have no.actual plan to make steady income in bitcoin. But if you have a business or you are a good.trader, then you should have no problem transitioning from day job to bitcoin.

You can earn descent income from trading but only if you are expert in it and also if you have enough capital to start off, and if you don't then its better to keep it an passive income.

It is sad but it is true. You cannot just venture into trading without enough capital. You can start small but the income will not be enough to make a living out of it. But if you have enough capital and really good.at predicting the trend, then you can live comfortably using trading income.
3964  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 20, 2016, 11:15:53 PM
Gambling and investing in gambling casinos online both have risks. Since amount is very low what OP said he has available to invest or gamble with he can not fully take advantage of the investing. Even if you find some good site but there share some small percentage of profit with investors. The bigger the amount is the more you will receive. I will not invest at all if I have small amount of money.

Even if you have small amount, it is still good to invest. If you are not sure with the site you are investing, you can test it with small amount investment. Then you can gradually increase your investment. It is too bad if you have big amount of money and you invested it all in a wrong investment.
3965  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 20, 2016, 02:28:35 PM
Its depends on situation or scenario for example you are 3rd class in the society  and you win a jackpot in a lotto and the jackpot prize is 10million dollars its change your life but if your addict in gambling and lose anything in gambling your wreck your life.
Yeah thats true, it really depends on a situation, if a person doesn't know how to control their money on their game, and they didn't stop until their money is totally gone then thats the time gambling really will wreck your life.

Obviously. Even if you win but you are neglecting your responsibilities or your family and love ones, it can still wreck your life. If you are always winning, and you are gambling more hours than you should have, then you will have no.time for your family. Your wife might leave you or your children will not respect you. It can ruin a man's life that way.
3966  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 20, 2016, 02:12:52 PM
I am using it as an investment at a moment as the place where I live is not that tech developed and people are not aware about it so it makes difficult for me to use it as a currency.

It is still good. If you can't spend bitcoins, you can just hold all of them and wait til a very high price. It is actually better because you will not be tempted to spend your bitcoins on useless things. 
3967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 20, 2016, 01:58:26 PM
just stop it and don't touch it again
Yup, this is the simple and perfect answer. Stop playing and don't see gambling site anymore. But this is not easy for real gamblers. They don't have control over their emotions. So I think they can take help from family members and also they need some prescriptions from doctors. And more importantly they have to control on their minds otherwise staying out from gambling is not easy.

Absolutely he can easily say and do that one because i think he isn't a gambler who gets addicted to it. But if he can experience also what op experience i think he will also surely ask for any advice  on how to stop

If a gambler is addicted, it is not easy to say no to things that he is addicted to, just like those drug addicts, its hard for them to turn away from their vice, sometimes they go to a rehabilitation center to be cured, same as in gambling, if you are addicted to it, rehabilitation would be needed or if you want to do it your self, you would need a good research and the support of your family.

It will be harder to quit if you will just do it yourself. There are so many temptations that can pull you back to gambling. But if you are inside a rehab center, you do not have access to gambling sites. Then it will be easier to quit because you will be forced to others things and your luck of access to gambling will really help a lot to find new hobbies.
3968  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 20, 2016, 01:38:11 PM
the recipes to getting rich are:
1. discipline
2. don't mix friendship with money(business)
3. don't spend it Wink

Why you aren't going to spend your money to become rich? Well you need to spend your money for investment to become rich because there is no single worker that is going to be rich who is just depending on one source of income. But if you are going to focus to a lot of source for sure you are going to get rich with it in no time.

Just like what they always say, "It takes money to make money". So you need to spend too, just not work. But you need to spend the right way. Spend here means putting your money on the right place so it can work for you. Do not spend on items that will go to waste like overpriced cellphones and gadgets. Spend your money on investments instead and you will have a faster time to be rich.
3969  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 20, 2016, 01:31:53 PM
It depends on the job, and the level of stability, of course. But as we can see, things are not very stable in crypto lately.

If we are just going to think of it clearly, it is very hard if we are going to depend only with your full time job and it is going to be good if you are going to have a lot of sources of income. And it is going to be better if you are going to able to have your time for both of it. It seems that many are working for bitcoin in full time here.

I think more are working as part time job. I think there are more signature campaigners than actual bitcoin enthusiasts or bitcoin traders. And if you are jusy earning thru signature campaign, I do not think you can go fulltime on bitcoin. Only those who have mining capabilities, traders and gambling site owners can go fulltime on bitcoin.
3970  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 20, 2016, 07:58:29 AM
It would be too risky to quit your job but it would be good for you if you would make use of bitcoin too.
Yeah! it is true that quitting our job is too risky as we might not succeed in focusing with bitcoin. Our job provides us a stable and consistent income while in bitcoin we might lose our money, that's the big difference for everyone who wish to go full time with bitcoin.

There are many people who are full time in bitcoin especially the traders who are making good money with it but to get full time on bitcoin you also need high capital to invest at initial stage.
yeah though it is risky to be a trader at the moment, in my opinion they never can earn any steady income unfortunately

Being a trader, yes  you can go full time but the income is not guaranteed for everyday profits. Trading is a good way of source of income but it depends on how you trade the outcome would result in your  trading skills and decision making. Quiting your day job just to go fulltime in bitcoin is a very risky thing to do.
To be successful in trading, you need a lot of experience and knowledge in it. It cannot be done in a day. So before you quit your job to do trading, be sure you are already well versed in trading and can sustain an income. Otherwise, do it both so can have an income while mastering trading.
3971  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning a living with bitcoin? on: August 20, 2016, 07:45:06 AM
Its not possible for me to earn a living with it as my full time job doesn't allow me to spend full time on bitcoin, and my first concern is to concentrate on my full time job as it is taking best care of me and my family.
yeah it is not possible for me either, in my opinion if bitcoin grows then there might be more ob places with bitcoins
Indeed bitcoin can give us extra income and ways to earn but its hard to rely on that because its not stable and not so big. nowadays you have to be more wise, do anything that you know you can earn. thats why i have a job, business and of course bitcoin. so i can say im financially stable.

Good thing for you. I am.sure you are very busy juggling 3 jobs. I am doing bitcoin and a day job and I am quite exhausted after the day of doing both. How much more if you still have to handle a business. It is right that you should take all the opportunity to earn while you can. But remember also to save so you will have money when you retire.
3972  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 20, 2016, 06:09:30 AM
Save half, invest the other half.
if depends on the situation. if I don't find any legit way I'll save my 100% money.
the thing is to find a good way/source of investment. I would probably invest my 100% money if I get a legit and genuine way for it. because investment worth in today's time, but the problem is there is lack of good and legit investment sites/companies,

Even if you find a good investment, it is wrong to put all your money in a single investment. You must diversify your investments so that you can minimize the risk. If that single investment failed, you lose everything. But if you are diversified, if one investment failed, you still have other investment. And do not focus on online investment. You can also invest on stocks or real estates.
3973  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 18, 2016, 12:05:20 PM


Rushing into things without any planning would be like a suicide because  you dont  have any plans or goals on a certain things. You wouldnt  even know what you must supposed to do when you are  in a actual situation therefore, nivesting your money without knowledge  to a business is just a waste of money  same as others said here.

And there are lots of major problems you will encountered while you are on your journey of making a succesful business and investment.

That's why to at least minimize the risk, properly understand what really you goes into especially when choosing the right investment.

If you want knowledge in investing, the best thing to do is invest small amount. This is to just to get you started and to test if you have the guts to take to become a good investor. Plus it adds experience to you. As they say, experience is the best teacher. If you made mistakes, then learn from it and it is just small amount. It will not hurt you so much.
3974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 18, 2016, 03:14:19 AM
If out there have an investment that safe and have huge interest i will invest it for sure, but i don't find one until now. So, i prefer to gambling for now.

Lol yeah I think today most investment sites are Ponzi and they will be hyip scam and you will lose your money and you will be in pain when they become scam. yeah I'm the better gamble. the risk will be clearer and it will give you instant income. ponzi risk may be the same with gambling
There are only like 6-7 legit gambling sites which take investments, i know it's risky to invest so is gambling but if you're in for the long-run you should invest instead of gambling.

You are right. If you are targeting long term, then it is better to invest your money. But if you want it short term, then gamble. But remember, gambling is the worst thing to do with your money. You can lose all your money in a few clicks. Investing can take long time to get profit, but it is less riskier.
3975  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 18, 2016, 02:37:24 AM
Maybe best option is to do both save and invest 50-50 is best option
there is no need to save it to be honest, in my opinion it is way better to just go 100 per cent investing into trading as you might make some good money with it

And what happens if your investments failed? If you invested 100% of your money, then you will have nothing left if ever those investments turned scam or just suddenly dropped price. It is better to have some savings as a back up plan just in case.
3976  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: August 17, 2016, 02:58:33 PM
in present time i have only one plan that i am going to hold my bitcoin for the price increase and nothing else.

I think it will give you some good profit but it is not considered as the permanent method to become rich as we do not see always rise in bitcoin price the better choice is that you start your own business with the profit you get from any source which will give you permanent and steady payment on daily or monthly or annual base.

Holding for a very long time will only work if you already have over a thousand bitcoins. If not, it is better to invest your bitcoin so that it can grow more. The faster you can grow your bitcoin thru investments or trading, the faster you become rich.
3977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 17, 2016, 02:43:01 PM
If you have more than enough money, i don't think you will risk big amounts by gambling, may be rich people gamble just for fun with small amounts.
Yeah i think so, if i am rich and have lots of money i will still gamble for fun because i dont know anymore where to spend my money so gambling will be my hobby but of ofcourse i wont spend big amount.

If you do not know where to put your money, then I think your wealth will not last that long. Instead of gambling, have yourself study financial management so you will not be burning your money in casinos or online gambling sites. Financial literacy can help you keep your money for a longer time and maybe grow it more. But gambling will just burn your money away.
3978  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 17, 2016, 02:27:28 PM
Getting inspired is one thing, to actually do things and make things work for you is another. It is easy to read all the inspiring books and stories about rags-to-riches persons, but to actually do the job and make yourself rich is hard. You should have the perseverance and determination deep within you so you can endure all the trials in becoming rich.

Getting inspired is OK. But rather than copying what others did, we must develop our own ideas to make money. Personally, I don't bother reading all these inspiring stories. They will keep your mood high for a few hours, but other than that, what is the use? I would rather use that time to learn something more useful for me.

There is nothing bad in copying what they did. It has an advantage. You know that it will work because they have done it before. But do not copy directly. Mix something that is yours. Amd reading inspiring stories is not a total waste of time. It gives you inspiration and a boost to keep on doing what your doing.  But the inspiration should not end in a few days. It should be a guiding force to keep on working to be rich until you reach your goal.
3979  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 17, 2016, 02:15:32 PM
i think going full time on bitcoin is good way to rich, some people who earning bitcoin in first time now have more money because in first time we can earning 0.02btc just from faucet
I doubt that because the earning in faucets is too small and for me its just wasting my time and its better to do something else that can give me fair amount. but i still cant quit to my job because it can give me stable income. i also trust bitcoin but for now i just cant go full time.
Going full time in bitcoin because of faucets is never a good idea, you will lose your health spending to much time at a given day just to make a decent amount from it, I don't think I would even quit my job because of just doing faucet. I would only quit when I can use my passion working online so while I am earning I am also enjoying.

There was a time when you can get a lot of btc from faucets. That was when the price of bitcoin was still peanuts and they are basically giving away bitcoins. I think what crimbit means is if you where doing bitcoins on its early days doing faucet, you could be rich by now. You could have easily got hold of bitcoins before and if you kept those, you have a lot of money now.
3980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 17, 2016, 08:26:10 AM
for me gambling never fix my life im getting addicted because of bitcoin and i want to quit but i am always chasing my lose and i want to bring my lose back thats why im always get greedy because i chase my lose hopefuly that i can move on and start another day to play gambling hoping that one day luck is on beside me <3

Well for sure many people did have the same experience as yours. And for me, I can proved it to myself that gambling is not really going to make my life good and if I'm going to be addicted to it, it is just going to wreck my life. So, if you can't help yourself it is going to be better if you are just going to treat it as a form of entertainment or pass time.
i am sure gambling are wrecked almost everyone lives instead fix it ,
noone can beat a house edge and casino bankroll ,
if you can create a survey about people that have fixed their life around you i will bet there only few people think their life fixed because gambling ,
and get back in the next month/year to ask them again about this , i am sure they will say it is wrecked their life now.

It's funny how you are saying gambling is bad and how it can wreck your life, but still wears a signature-ad of a gambling site. Well that's how it works for you so so just realize some things that needs to be in the right place.

It is just like cigarette packs having lung cancer or other diseases on their covers. They still sell cancerous cigarettes but they have a warning that it is dangerous to your health. It is on the user if they still use their products. The same with the signature. He is just warning the readers that gambling can wreck their lives, but he still sells gambling because he earns from it. At least he warned them about the dangers of it.
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