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3981  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto vs Stocks on: June 24, 2021, 09:00:06 PM
I heard 7% as yearly gain is very good for stocks.  What about for crypto then? 
You heard it right and even on forex trading gains where 5-10% gain would already be considered as a good stuff but basing off with the volatility then its quite understandable because trying to compared off with the intensity of price movement then its no brainer on how crypto is really an interesting thing.

One of the reasons on why i had jumped into this market due to volatility on where you can earn more than you would in stocks and forex
compare if you do stick your ass to crypto.

Even though risk is really higher but would really be worth for you to engage on but well there are still traders or investors whom do love on sticking with
traditional things.
3982  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I Don't Want To Hear Anybody Crying When BTC Will Reach 1M Per Coin! on: June 24, 2021, 08:30:00 PM
The history of the development of bitcoin is beautiful and speaks volumes about the fact that sooner or later it will happen. It is clear that the powerful of this world are not very interested in the dominance of something decentralized that is not under their control, so we will see many more obstacles on the way to the formation of the world of cryptocurrency. And those who want to get such a result tomorrow are simply naive or young, or both together. You need to be patient and study the issue better.
Yeah we would see obstacles but im not really that optimistic enough on making myself believe that we would be seeing a million per coin which is a bit already on the unrealistic side of things.

Not to be that salty in terms of potential price since bitcoin had already prove and how many times had shocked us when it comes to price potential that it could possibly reached out.

So if you do really look that it could reach up these heights then always consider on the amount that you do invest.Dont anticipate or expect too much because frustration would really come after if bitcoin hadnt able to fulfill your expectation.
3983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Esports Prediction & Discussion Thread on: June 24, 2021, 08:00:07 PM
I've thought of the same as they might fall to the same place just as the Animajor. Speaking of Dota 2 and The International 10. Have you guys read the news that there's a problem about the location where it must be held? in Sweden. Valve has released and important and sad update about it.

An Important Update on TI10: The International - Dota 2 Championships in Sweden
I wasnt aware on that one so i do make out some research:
https://ph.news.yahoo.com/dota-2-ti10-to-be-moved-to-another-venue-europe-after-sweden-snub-010444896.html

"will be moved away from its planned venue in Stockholm, Sweden, to a different country in Europe after the Swedish government refused to give the tournament official recognition."

So it would be on different country but still in Europe.It doesnt matter on what would be the venue would be as long the event would commence on.
It's disappointing because AFAIK, Valve has talked already with them since 2019 before the pandemic has started. It's really disappointing that some of fans have already thought that it will happen in Sweden.

Well, I wish that Valve will find that another country who's willing to agree with their terms, both terms, Valve and the host country. But if there's none, I'm sure that Kyiv is going to be their final choice where the Animajor has happened.
You know that government would really be making out such immediate decisions if they arent feed up that well and just posting up some reasons which are just some cover up just not to make them look bad or simply people could tell about some valid reason.

It doesnt really that much of a concern since Valve could really make out some adjustment even though its a bit in a rush time but it would really be that much of an issue.

As long as the event would continue and wont make any delays then that what matter most.
3984  Economy / Speculation / Re: how many more times should you fall for the same FUD before you learn? on: June 24, 2021, 07:22:25 PM
This will never end.

FUD is always started with people that a new to cryptocurrency. Old crypto enthusiasts know, that the price will most likely recover. But newbies never experienced the path of "drop from 20k to 4k and a recovery to 60k bucks". Why it will never end? Because newbies wont stop bringing fresh money to crypto. It is a cycle of newbie-money-FUD.



Be it an old one or a beginner, caution must be applied and alertness is the best way. It's just that their version of responding to Fud is different, depending on the experience and knowledge aspect of the year-to-year cycle of how crypto growth started.
and our task is to be a pioneer so that we can provide these insights, both in this forum and those around us who have started to get to know Crypto.
sometimes insight into crypto is used as routine learning. I believe beginners will gradually adapt to market conditions, Fud, and news news that threaten their portfolio.
Reaction would really vary on how someone is being too experienced in the market on which when you are already aware then you would know on what you do gonna do compared into those first timers who hadnt actually able to experience these situations.

Actions would be made will be depending on how much you've been aware on this market because if you had been on this market for a while now then
you are much pretty aware on what would possibly happen next.

People never ever learn? Its common even us experienced ones would fall out on the same emotion and reaction no matter how many times we had experienced it.
3985  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: June 23, 2021, 11:34:52 PM
You can also send a private message to their Twitter account that I once did when I requested something from them related to my account.  In their promotional tweets, they don't pay attention to the comments there, especially if the concern is not related, even though maybe other sites are the same.  Also, Hhampuz is here and he said that he will report to the teams when there are grievances in their thread that are lacking in awareness.
There's a lot of way to communicate with them but if you are are having a hard time communicating them using the support on their site then I believe there's something wrong though we can really ask Hhampuz for some help but having a great support coming from the team are still better. If you are experiencing problem, use all the communications as much as possible until they hear your concern.
Actually their support is quite active because when i had experienced some delays with my withdrawals then i tend to contact them directly and make out some response out of 5 minutes as far as i remember and i do tell off my issue and they had resolved out the issue or problem with ease.

Sometimes we should consider too the operation times on where these supports are mainly active but its just odd if thats the case that there are no support to respond on a big and popular site like this.

They should at least put some emphasis or focus when it comes to that area.
3986  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what is point of Tehnical analysis? on: June 23, 2021, 10:16:07 PM
Sideways trends have proved that technical analysis doesn't always mean anything.

About a month ago we hit 30k, and TA is constantly predicting a breakout up or down, usually up, but instead the market crabs sideways, something only a few people predicted, and most of them didn't use technical analysis to figure it out.

TA is such a pointless endeavor in a market that is so controlled and volatile by the current BTC price action, especially if it is dependent upon the behavior of whales.

What do you think about it?
Not that really useless. it is just the market is way too unpredictable even Technical analysis in forex and stocks trading wont really be giving out precise
predictions on where the price could possibly go.

How much more on a very volatile and unpredictable market here on crypto? You cant just expect that those analysis would really be giving out precise prediction on where the price would be going and if thats the case then we do have lots of rich traders out there.

Always be mindful that it would be better to have analysis like this rather than on making out decisions and steps without doing or applying something.
It is really having much that difference.
3987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How do you make money with NFTs? on: June 23, 2021, 09:28:47 PM
Anyone in this topic managed to made money with NFT? I just dont get the idea of it. Besides being speculative instrument, rare NFT has a real purpose or use scenario.
Perhaps when Binance would open NFT marketplace, situation might change. But so far I dont understand how to tell the value of a NFT. I own some. Got them from coingecko candies and from airdrop/bounty (dont remember now). I just have them, but I dont know their value or who would buy them, because they are not unique.
Usually NFT's with low mint number are the ones which would really be that valuable, not all but most likely the uniqueness and supply would be the main

factor or indicator that would really be telling if a certain NFT would be valuable or not and of course it would really be depending on the demand

and this is why there are people whom do collect as much as they can and hoping that the value would really be going up and making out themselves to be

millionaires so this is some sort of lottery for someone who do really believe on but who knows right?
3988  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Esports Prediction & Discussion Thread on: June 22, 2021, 11:12:40 PM
T1 won the ESL One Summer 2021 with 3-2 as the final score. It was an interesting match and on top of that, its always good to have all 5 map played for the Grand Final.
Congratulations to T1.

I thought that Virtus.Pro is going to get the crown for ESL One Summer, both teams are already qualified to TI so they don't have to think of the pressure what's on it after this tournament.

Whey had been dropped on lower bracket i wasnt really hoping nor expect for T1 to go with the finals.They should really be making even more better

specially for the upcoming TI because this tournament is totally different and also im rooting for Secret too which is obviously saving up some strats

for the upcoming international.
I've thought of the same as they might fall to the same place just as the Animajor. Speaking of Dota 2 and The International 10. Have you guys read the news that there's a problem about the location where it must be held? in Sweden. Valve has released and important and sad update about it.

An Important Update on TI10: The International - Dota 2 Championships in Sweden
I wasnt aware on that one so i do make out some research:
https://ph.news.yahoo.com/dota-2-ti10-to-be-moved-to-another-venue-europe-after-sweden-snub-010444896.html

"will be moved away from its planned venue in Stockholm, Sweden, to a different country in Europe after the Swedish government refused to give the tournament official recognition."

So it would be on different country but still in Europe.It doesnt matter on what would be the venue would be as long the event would commence on.
3989  Economy / Economics / Re: Amateur Traders Cause Bubbles on: June 22, 2021, 10:18:30 PM
What a load of rubbish.

It's as if they haven't seen the state of the real estate market and how that is the biggest bubble out of anything over the last couple of decades, almost solely driven by institutional investors and developers.

This is a blatant attack on retail investors and their ability to make decisions. The best retail investors are just as capable (if not more so) than biased Wall Street analysts that recommend stocks/funds for their own gain.
Traders and retail investors are highly manipulated but we should stand out from them if we want to be successful and it seems most people in the crypto community is not doing it that is why we are always facing the panic selling whenever the price drops a bit, but we have to get used to it and also it can be an advantage for an individual to buy the assets for cheap prices who are willing to HODL.

When you decided to hold ur asset, u should be aware that hold isn't always safe ur asset but u need to use another strategy. Maybe hold can work if u buy BTC at the lower price since several years ago, but if you buy at the top price, ur asset become shit if u still hold without take average down strategy. For example, I decided to hold without take another way then I got loss so much. My unrealise gain become realise loss, and give me much hit. This is pure my mistake because didn't watch my portofolio as well.
There are instances which cant really be avoided due to unpredictability of the market on where no matter how hard we do try on making out those good positions but due to sudden change of market movements which will really be putting us up on hard situation.

I dont really believe about those Amateur trade causes bubbles, in some part this is true but the market doesnt move out only with small portion
which generally involves lots of people who had been dealing and trading with the market so there would be no exception.
3990  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Vegas Casinos to allow Cannabis Lounges. on: June 22, 2021, 09:16:01 PM
Nothing wrong with it. The only problem could be gambling while being high, we could lose a lot of money.
And that might be the reason why they've allowed. For the reason to make people lose themselves and get out of their control so that they can make more money from those people that are enjoying doing such but not noticing that they're in a serious situation. And in the end, it's too late for them to notice that they're losing more money although in their mindset, they've enjoyed a bit.
I don't think cannabis is a drug enhancing risky habits in general and risky gambling habits in particular. So I'm not sure it will help casino houses to take more money from those players. In fact I think it will certainly help some gamblers to stop playing actually.
There might be some effect that it'll put the person high and that's going to push them more. Or else, the casino is just giving the benefit of their gamblers that they are free to do what they want as long as it's legal while being inside their premises.
If there's a psychological reason why they've allowed it then that's in favor of the casino not with the player. But that's what we're going to see for them.
They wont really be putting up those things for nothing and its clear as day that they would really be letting those weed use into the lounge because

if someone is on the influence of weed then you would really be losing up your right mind on how to play well which means that would really be an advantage on the house side.

which means that do talks about more revenue as of those players would really be putting up a hole into their pocket and it would be late for them to realize that.
3991  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODL...until when? on: June 22, 2021, 08:40:31 PM
I'll HODL until it hits 200k. I think it can get even higher so i'm not gonna withdraw all my BTC but most of it definitely.

I remember two years ago some people said: "I will hodl until the price reaches $50,000 and when the price reaches $50,000 I will sell..." I wonder if these people managed to sell when the price did it reach $50,000 or is it now that these people's goal has become to sell when the price reaches $500,000? people are greedy and of course they think the price will always go up to infinity, but that thought can be wrong, nothing guarantees that the price will reach $200,000 someday. nothing guarantees that the price will reach $500,000 one day
No one knows if those people did eventually sell off when that price target had reached out but same as you presumed that majority would really be that greedy and would changed up their minds and they will really be selling in 500k instead of 50k which it isnt a surprising behavior for a human being.

Such changes would really be common because we are naturally born greedy where we do ask or hope for more since we had seen that 50k was attainable then why wont go for higher level?

Honestly those are just missed chances and opportunities because we dont know on when it would comes next or to happen because opportunities like
that doesnt really come often.
3992  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How Bitcoin almost made me rich on: June 22, 2021, 07:42:27 PM
Me too, almost made me a fortune if I had hold on to it. Like in December 2020, Bitcoin was around $12,000 to $16,000 and I've decided to convert them to USDT. Until the big pump happened to $20k, then $30k and up to $60k. However, it would be smart for me to buy it early and sell as the price peaked to $60k. Now BTC is over $30k, and I believe that this will be the new bottom (or maybe not due to the death cross). Risk management is still important, as we should learn about diversifying our investments.
Lots had really missed out that opportunity to buy cheap since no one really had anticipated that bitcoin would really be having some nasty run to reach out 60k and for sure even myself had missed out that chance to make myself rich or a bit wealthy since i could buy several coins when it was still cheap.

Well, theres no need to regret because we cant really turn back the time and those missed opportunities are just part of our memory that bitcoin did really
reach out those levels.

Although, it doesnt mean that we had missed out we wont be seeing another opportunity.This is why we should really be wise on getting in specially for possible bottom of it on this current trend.
3993  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Esports Prediction & Discussion Thread on: June 21, 2021, 11:29:34 PM
T1 won the ESL One Summer 2021 with 3-2 as the final score. It was an interesting match and on top of that, its always good to have all 5 map played for the Grand Final.
Congratulations to T1.

I thought that Virtus.Pro is going to get the crown for ESL One Summer, both teams are already qualified to TI so they don't have to think of the pressure what's on it after this tournament.

Whey had been dropped on lower bracket i wasnt really hoping nor expect for T1 to go with the finals.They should really be making even more better

specially for the upcoming TI because this tournament is totally different and also im rooting for Secret too which is obviously saving up some strats

for the upcoming international.
3994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will Kishu Inu Moon Soon? on: June 21, 2021, 09:22:10 PM
Anybody heard of Kishu coin? The coin has been marketed so much over the past month. I wonder if this coin can moon like Safemoon or Shiba Inu.
Dont let yourself get dragged with that meme coin hype and as others been saying where the market doesnt really look good now.Just spare yourself into the possible crash in case you do really force up on buying this shit coin.

Lots had gone craze with meme coins now and even newly created ones where people do thought that it might be shooting it price soon and make theirselves rich which is really a very wrong mindset.

You had just been used and believing into those delusional thing.If i were you then better to buy bitcoin instead of engaging yourself into those
worthless coins.
3995  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Global adoption — A ridiculous term on: June 21, 2021, 08:41:54 PM
Not resist price increase is a lot of people aim with this currency. Sometimes i can't wonder what will people do if bitcoin really be adopted as global currency or maybe whatever they want it to be  because to replace fiat itself is already hard. If me, in my opinion actually what happen to bitcoin we do support as much as we can, if only can hold then hold, if can tell other people but not only what is good point but risk behind it so that people can know about bitcoin better is ok too.
Im already out on that motive on replacing fiat completely because its really an impossible thing to happen because as long government do exist then theres no way that fiat could be overtaken or replaced. Centralization would remain and stay as long they do exist.

Although adoption is indeed on the move and it isnt really a ridiculous term because if we do try to look at it on how far we had progressed out then
we can really say that theres really improvement over a decade.

It is just it didnt really able to reach out on what we do anticipate nor expect which is not actuall surprising at all because of some characteristics
on where bitcoin does have.
3996  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Vegas Casinos to allow Cannabis Lounges. on: June 21, 2021, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: fiulpro
link=topic=5344865.msg57277305#msg57277305 date=1624206276
What do you think about it ?
- I do think that this is a step taken by both casinos and the government to ensure that people loose more, so that they do not care about what they are doing and at the end both the casinos and the government will make more money this way.
Not all drug addict loose their sense during gambling. Hard drugs react differently to different people. It makes some wild while to others it makes them wiser and for some it calms their nerves. So introducing cannabis to casinos in Vegas could be a bit risky because it would arouse different behavior to winnings and losses. Hard drugs brings out the hidden identity of a calm dove. This might not be a good idea for me.
The main use of cannabis is to calm down people with some disorder and relieve stress. But when you overdose, It will give you side effect which is hallucinations and I believe this the concern of OP for bringing this topic. I don't think so that players hitting it will only hit moderately because weeds is so addictive and most the gamblers are easy to become addicted. The chance of winning after a session of weeds is too low compared when you are on the right mind.
Unless if the Casino would be giving out some limitation or just the right amount that they would able to smoke on? which is really impossible.

There no other reason on why they do come up with this idea but to take advantage into its players because playing while you are in the influence of weed is totally when you are in your normal mind.

Its just way too obvious on what they are trying to do here and thats an another sorry thing for those gamblers who do play on that place.

3997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Have you given up on airdrop? on: June 20, 2021, 05:03:12 PM
I did a lot of them back in 2018. All are worthless now.
I stopped around 2019, also because of KYCs.
Airdrops are supposed to be completely free and just like those good old days where you do just simply input your address then you would just need to wait
for the distribution and theres no string attached to that.

When the years passed on where scam projects become rampant on where these airdrops being used for another sole purpose on where it did turns out that they do already ask out for some free and some KYC

which is totally bullshit if i were to say and as long airdrops do asking something to those participants then better not to proceed because you would really be just wasting off your time.
3998  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: your worst mistake on: June 20, 2021, 04:21:41 PM
My worst mistake was that I didnot hold for a long time in crypto, and then I faced a lot of loss. In crypto, we need not to panic, if the price of any coin goes down, if we panic and suddenly sale the coin in case of price going down, we might loss many dollars, so we just need to hold the coins, as in crypto HOLD IS GOLD  Wink Wink
Not all the time because not all coins would really be growing in ahead of years to come so it do still matters on what coins you've been holding neither its a good one or still totally shit.

Holding too much does have its own con's too like missing out chances on selling on the right time as the coin didnt never ever increased its price after such correction.

We do have lots of mistakes in crypto investment but doesnt mean that it is already over.We can still start over and rebuilt up on what we had missed.
3999  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ BOXING POLL ADDED ]: Fury vs Wilder III - THE TRILOGY IS BACK ON !!! on: June 17, 2021, 09:34:30 PM

Unless if he cant accept again such defeat then for sure this one will go to mental hospital.  Cheesy

Lol, he would not, he can't enjoy his money if he will end up in the hospital.

What we read or hear online might not reflect his real status in life regarding this match-up, you know, these people are smart, they are good in creating some buzz to sell their fights, let's calm down and just enjoy this trilogy, whoever we are backing.

I'm backing Fury, I have a change of heart as Wilder is not a disciplined fighter and not so professional, he allows his emotion too much to dictate his future so I'm not trusting him on that. Fury will win and that's the end of the story.

Soon, we will still see a Fury vs Joshua fight, as it gets longer, more people are getting their vaccine which makes it possible to gain their target crowd, a good idea on delaying the fight as they could make more money as life slowly getting back to normal.

Maybe that's the reason of delay as the later they will schedule the fight, the more audience they can accommodate in the arena. Which is good for the gate revenue. Am on Fury also on this one. If Wilder will lose this fight, he should accept it and not create any conspiracy theories to why he lost.
They would be arranging the fight as profitable as possible but i dont see that there would be lots would be longing for this trilogy as we do all know that this fight had been settled a long time ago.

It is just Wilder cant really accept defeat and if he would lost up again on this one then there would be no reasons or conspiracies that he would really
be telling on the public.

He would really be making himself look funny into the public if he would do such thing.
4000  Economy / Economics / Re: Money and happiness. on: June 17, 2021, 08:07:48 PM
Money is really one of the determinants for a person to be happier. Some people say that "Money doesn't bring happiness.". But I disagree. Of course, only having money is not enough. Being healthy at the same time is very crucial. Otherwise, there will be no meaning even if you have millions.
Easy to say for those who tell that money cant buy everything which is indeed true but its one of the factors needed fro you to cherish up a good life.

From going to another places or buying the things you do like or sending out gifst even with the smallest thing where money would really be relevant.

Money cant buy health but once you do have money and in case you do have problems in health then you can at least make yourself sustain in medication
compared into those people who doesnt have money at all and die because of no medication.
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