I have decided to remove the list of members whose already ranked up from OP as suggested by @iasenko and having left only the active ones in the OP (Archived OP, Archived Ranked Up Page)

Merit score is updated 8^th of October 2018

 

There are two main political parties in our country and they ruled the country nearly 70 years up to now since our independence. In the first time of our history, we elected our president from one of a major party while the majority of members in the parliament from another party. Then the executive president invited to other parties to rule the government with the association of two major parties. Now our country is ruling by a national government which created a lot of problems than the other way around.

Any decision was taken from a one party is criticized by the other party of the national government which leads lagging of taking decisions (Good decisions have a lot of fathers while when things have gone wrong they just blame each other party)

No constructive debates going on when submitting a bill/policies for the parliament since there is no strong opposition party, they just getting approved all most all the bills/policies even though some of the policies/bills didn't have any positive impacts towards people.

What I want to express here is we have tried an alternative (National government) for the mainstream politics, but the results seem to be worse than the other way around (ruling by one party). We couldn't change the way politicians thinking about their(our) country and they are just thinking only about how to maintain their power until the next election. Sometimes I felt that we can't just blame the politicians only, because when we have the power of voting we are not electing the right candidate to do the job for us. Instead, we just follow the popular ones even though they didn't have any political background or education qualifications at all.

Actually what we need more professionals for the political arena like Singapore to gain maximum output from their respective fields(economic, foreign affairs, health, education etc.. ).

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"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything" - Albert Einstein

I think OP shouldn't consider "copper members" as different rank when comparing stats.

Meta is the only place where people able to appeal for their banned account. The problem as you already mentioned the number of appeals. Sometimes its really annoying to see a bunch of appeal threads in a row. Members in the forum already discussed several solutions to minimize those appeals in the Meta and nobody (people who have the authority) seems to like to see any changes sooner.

Previously discussed threads;

- Subforum for account ban request
- Re: Sub/Child board for Account Issues

I doubted about that. Most of them already know what they are dealing with and they don't care about the rules. I also agreed with @iasenko, Plagiarism is the main reason and i'm hoping theymos will highlight that in his new welcome message.

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BTW this is what i think as more practical solutions, but anyone wouldn't interested at all

- Showing the reasons of banned when someone login into a banned account
- Showing massage to contact Theymos/Cyrus when someone gets banned

Congratulations on the newest Sr. Member Alex_Sr

LOL, 6BTC is not much when compared to the money receiving from the auctions every week for the advertising in the forum.

BTW they have lot of money

I don't agree with both of you because just hanging on here but not giving anything to other members for years wouldn't mean anything at all to me.

Demoting them back to the newbies by just simply disregarding the activity they achieved through their career is not an option too.

What I think is the answer is laying between above two options. How about if we implement a system for trigger( having opptunity to award merits)the airdrop merits only when a user earned some predefined merits. By that way we can reduse most of the merit abuse cases where users tends to giving away merits for their alt accounts.

I don't know why people are so worrying and anylizing about the never sent portion since it's nothing to do with the number of users ranked Sr. Members &  up that have not earned any merit. Why we just couldn't consider the received sMerits part only because I have seen that some members still didn't shared their intial airdrop merits at least once.

I think you are talking about the members who received a lot of merits in the introduction of the merit system. Merit is not moderated by the forum but DT members will red tagged if any member found guilty for merit abuse scenarios regardless of their rank. So it's not about the rank mate. The truth is they can't trade their merits for their alts forever. They will eventually dried up their initial airdropped merits. Most of the good bounty managers now put earned merit requirements for joining signature campaigns and also they will manually overlook the profile of the candidate whether merit abuse scenario happened before approval. Even most of the managers will not accept the members having red tagged (specially for merit abusers) for their signature campaigns. As a whole admin/mods/DT members were taken the necessary actions to overcome the spam and merit trading problems but sometimes even they can't stop these problems 100%. They all are humans too and spammers will found new ways every day to beat the system. So what we can do is report every time when you found out merit abuse scenarios to DT members which having solid evidence.

Giving away your sMerits for quality stuff is up to every individual member. If we all do their part there will be no complaining about the way merits distributed. Punishment for breaking a rule is always there whether higher rank or lower rank. There is no flexibility when it comes to the violation of rules and also we all should remember if you are not knowing the law is not an excuse when you found guilty for breaking a forum rule. I have seen that most of the members who break the law were saying that they are innocent in the first place and then saying we don't know the rule so give me a second chance.

BTW can you point out an example where officials became more flexible for a higher rank member found guilty for violation of forum rule?

Members having negative trust for merit abuse by DT members should be stopped from giving away merits.

I don't believe those merits (got from abusive way) to be given away by the abuser for the quality posters either but most probably for their alts or resale.

If you are going to do an analysis about merits, it is better to compare the percentage values rather than the numbers. This data I get from Bitcointalk Merit Dashboard (by DdmrDdmr) and he updated to the latest merit data available as at 28^th september 2018.


@Helena the thread you highlighted is a comparison of posts in each subsection but not the merits.

I think you misunderstood the point what I'm highlighting. The thread you highlighted is about account selling and buying but I,m highlighting the new way of doing it which will lead to the creation of so many newbie accounts just for buying the accounts.

P.S - Sometimes subject act as a clickbait too. BTW I just changed it

Then its a loophole in the rules and I believed it has to be changed since all the dirty works done in those groups. We can't control what happens in the other social media but why it can't be prohibited the sharing of group chat telegram links like the referral links?

Recently I have seen that a Newbie (accountsellerlion) created a thread regarding bitcointalk account sales. I know account selling is prohibited in the forum and they will be red-tagged if they caught. But the real question that we should ask from ourselves is "do you think is it enough?". I don't think so. This is what s/he said in that thread (look at the highlighted part) and that's the main problem I think and should be stopped. OP also suggesting others to create new accounts in case of avoiding getting red-tagged for account buying. Imagine what will happen if others follow the same way what OP did? @theymos I think we should reconsider the rules regarding account selling and buying.

Another thing I just want to get clarified, is it allowed to post telegram groups links in bitcointalk? AFAIK that's where all the black market deals are going on like merit trading, account selling etc...

Bitcointalk Name : vphasitha01
Bitcointalk Profile Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2124069
Rank : Full Member
Bitcoin Wallet Address : 1F4A8JrbPRURYmkRTNTo5W5ziWjEg6RuX3
Wearing Appropriate Signature : I will wear if i'm accepted

List of Members were updated from the latest data available 28^th September 2018

Full Members added - 02
Jr. Members added - 04

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Members Ranked up last week

1 Full Member ranked up to Sr. Member
3 Members ranked up to Full Member
1 Jr. Members ranked up to Member

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Note -LoyceV become the 2^nd "Self-Made Legendary" member (after theymos) who achieved the landmark of 2000 Merits (earned 1000 Merits)

This is what theymos said about the "self-moderated thread" at the introduction.


People who willing to start a self-moderated thread, just put the tick for the self-moderated option under Additional options before posting.



AFAIK, the main advantage of self-moderated threads is you can have healthy conversations or discussions without getting diluted by spam posts.

The main disadvantage of the self-moderated threads is some people can use this as a tool for shutting down the opposite ideas or disagreement posts to the OP and giving false conclusions for other members(readers) by highlighting only the posts that agree with OP's opinion.

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When I quoting theymos' reply it showing me this message and is this newly added feature or is this the first time I have seen this warning message? BTW that's a very good feature. - sorry for going somewhat off-topic OP

As an example, I think politicians in my country are the worst because they always try to climb up their political ladder just by misleading the people but not in merit. When there are any misunderstandings between two religious parties happened, they eventually show up and act as their only saver and they put additional fire instead of solving the problem. Then only they can get more votes from the people when there is an election. They don't care about the people at all.  Some of the religious leaders also now becoming the puppets of the political leaders and they are also giving supportive statements for media about the political agendas just blindly without thinking whether those policies are actually benefited to our society or not. This is the pathetic situation in our country these days. People also didn't see this harsh reality, but they just blindly followed the big names and the reputation of politicians. Sometimes I didn't see any difference between those politicians and the religious leaders because both of them misleading the people in order to retain their power.  

See you in your next rank update "Sr.member" to "Hero member". Anyway congratulations on your new rank and you truly deserved mate

You're a good example for demoted newbies. When you put extra effort before starting a thread merits will come eventually and no need for begging or complaining.

Is this the place where that discussion held


Good job OP. I am also thinking about this idea a while and it's nice to see you make that list. I think this "earned merit" concept also has two sides. By just considering the earned merits only would not determine whether those particular users "self-made" rank. Some of those users would gain more merits than the newly registered users (users registered after Jan 24^th) for their old posts if the merit system would be implemented earlier. So as a fact we can't just compare the users having a lot of earned merits with the early legendaries at least in some cases. Other side of that fact is also true because some of the so-called legendaries would not be able to rank up even full member status if the merit system implemented earlier.

Actually, with all due respect, Satoshi, he shouldn't be on this list. @theymos and @LoyceV are the first two self-made legendaries

Everyone who's having red trust doesn't mean they all are merit abusers and didn't deserve to be rank up, but the users got painted their trust for merit abuse by DT members are the ones who didn't deserve to be rank up.

fine99 and TheBobyHunter are both merit abusers. This two users already got painted their trust with red by DT members. So I'm also mentioning about it in my [RUPL] Ranking-Up Pipe Line of Forum Members thread and I'm believing both of them not deserved to be rank up.

link for trust @fine99 >>>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=917021
link for trust @TheBobyHunter >>>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=905442