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Author Topic: [Merit Analysis] "Self Made" high ranked users based on earned merit  (Read 625 times)
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September 28, 2018, 08:33:40 AM
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I recently read a topic where there was a discussion about the users who have earned enough merit and have therefore earned their rank for a second time. I was curious to see how would the user ranks look like if we were to remove the airdropped merit that was given to existing higher ranked users on Jan 24th by default, if they already had an account that was ranked Member & up.

This is a way to encourage new members that are skeptical on the merit system to better see that getting large amounts of merit - some have received 1k merits - is indeed possible. Taking into account merit was designed to be received at the same pace as activity, so having received 1k merits to be "self made" Legendary in 8 months, considering it takes about 3 years to get the activity to be Legendary, is an incredible accomplishment.

As you probably know already, these amounts of merit were given by default and were displayed on the user's profile:
Code:
Member 10 Merit
Full Member 100 Merit
Sr. Member 250 Merit
Hero 500 Merit
Legendary 1000 Merit

Using Piggy's tool which has the latest merit data (updated an hour ago), let's see how the accounts would look like if we remove this initial merit and only count the earned merit. I am focusing on ranks Full Member & up since these require decent amounts of merit.
I'll try to answer these questions in this post:

1. How many "Self Made" Full Member, Sr. Member, Hero Member or Legendary users would there be if we only considered the earned merit?

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265 Full Members
74 Sr. Members
19 Hero Members
4 Legendary Users


2. Who are the "Self Made" Full Member, Sr. Member, Hero Member or Legendary users if we only considered the earned merit and what rank do they have now?

"Self Made" Full Members:
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UserName Rank
sabotag3x Hero Member
hugeblack Sr. Member
ibminer Legendary
fine99 Sr. Member
TheBobyHunter Sr. Member
mithrim Sr. Member
Flying Hellfish Staff
paxmao Sr. Member
vlad230 Full Member
Twinscoin2017 Sr. Member
roycilik Sr. Member
jillscarbrough Sr. Member
killyou72 Copper Member
HeRetiK Hero Member
ui_zakharchenko Sr. Member
Claymore Donator
d_eddie Sr. Member
ocminer Legendary
TERA2 Full Member
mprep Global Moderator
Alex_Sr Full Member
Rosewater Foundation Full Member
d5000 Legendary
aleksej996 Sr. Member
Aerys2 Sr. Member
mocacinno Legendary
1Referee Legendary
LFC_Bitcoin Copper Member
Silent26 Sr. Member
Xal0lex Staff
buwaytress Hero Member
vit05 Sr. Member
1miau Full Member
Co1n Sr. Member
alexberezov Sr. Member
Trofo Sr. Member
cAPSLOCK Legendary
ace4549 Sr. Member
morvillz7z Full Member
laszlo Full Member
stompix Hero Member
Mitchell Staff
amishmanish Sr. Member
EcuaMobi Legendary
Joel_Jantsen Legendary
bitserve Sr. Member
phantastisch Staff
EFS Staff
taikuri13 Full Member
NLNico Legendary
franky1 Legendary
Goran_ Sr. Member
hirozaki faraday Sr. Member
Anon136 Legendary
Kreds Copper Member
crypmike Full Member
Rhego Sr. Member
temmuz Sr. Member
BitcoinTurk Sr. Member
Wind_FURY Hero Member
CarlOrff Sr. Member
HagssFIN Hero Member
Bitcocoin Sr. Member
Samarkand Sr. Member
scutzi128 Sr. Member
tvplus006 Full Member
ICOEthics Member
Parodium Sr. Member
Sylon Legendary
pooya87 Legendary
willdono Full Member
mu_enrico Copper Member
aTriz Hero Member
Hydrogen Hero Member
Coin++ Sr. Member
Quickseller Copper Member
spartak_t Legendary
kirreev070 Full Member
ludbega Hero Member
manji Full Member
semux Full Member
Flodner Sr. Member
Hakamura Sr. Member
finaleshot2016 Sr. Member
mindrust Legendary
ToTheMoon_XOM9IK Full Member
DooMAD Legendary
FollowSynergy Sr. Member
Leteravian Full Member
Ranyar Sr. Member
baba0000000000 Sr. Member
Bheze Sr. Member
First1by Sr. Member
levyashin Sr. Member
seoincorporation Legendary
BitSharke135 Sr. Member
Lafu Hero Member
NadiaHel Full Member
Zapo Copper Member
bolshojkush Sr. Member
dumbtool45 Sr. Member
BitcoinPenny Legendary
WaDa Sr. Member
Yury1 Sr. Member
gamerWOT Sr. Member
sidehack Legendary
BOMG Sr. Member
Chachacoin17 Sr. Member
Coin-1 Sr. Member
ColorlessK Sr. Member
Tomatocage Legendary
gunhell16 Sr. Member
Evil-Knievel Legendary
Gothorum Sr. Member
Foxpup Legendary
nessie.io Newbie
600watt Legendary
JohnUser Hero Member
odolvlobo Legendary
cellard Legendary
rusbitcoinuser Full Member
-ck Staff
SyGambler Legendary
aliyagiz207 Full Member
mjglqw Sr. Member
EverGreenCoin Legendary
MagicSmoker Full Member
SFR10 Legendary
grue Legendary
masstahcoiner Sr. Member
tmfp Legendary
trantute2 Full Member
inbizin Full Member
jeremypwr Legendary
teramit Legendary
vphasitha01 Full Member
PolyPanto Sr. Member
Spazzer Full Member
bones261 Legendary
Speculatoross Full Member
butka Full Member
adonay72 Sr. Member
nullCoiner Sr. Member
Paractor Full Member
Storx Full Member
yogg Legendary
JaoBadjap Full Member
johhnyUA Hero Member
toknormal Legendary
Ale88 Sr. Member
AverageGlabella Full Member
BrewMaster Hero Member
vitruvio Sr. Member
Becassine Full Member
fengxia Full Member
yla1974 Sr. Member
TheUltraElite Hero Member
jseverson Hero Member
anunymint Brand new
shahzadafzal Copper Member
explorer Legendary
nc50lc Full Member
slackovic Full Member
Kakmakr Legendary
Moloch Hero Member
dooglus Legendary
ChiBitCTy Sr. Member
Heisenberg_Hunter Full Member
dbshck Staff
kaar Full Member
Hal VIP
Koal-84 Full Member
bobita Sr. Member
friends1980 Full Member
numanoid Legendary
CryptoCutie Full Member
sapta Staff
Dr.Mann Jr. Member
Gleb Gamow Legendary
BTCMILLIONAIRE Hero Member
devollito Full Member
lemonrabid Full Member
nickbelski Full Member
RGBKey Hero Member
Raja_MBZ Hero Member
chimk Full Member
etherclassic Member
cissrawk Sr. Member
gallisiardi Member
guybrushthreepwood Legendary
asche Full Member
dimao Sr. Member
kenzawak Full Member
ChardsElican28 Member
RegulusHr Full Member
Slow death Hero Member
alia Jr. Member
emile12 Full Member
icalical Full Member
jstefanop Legendary
LastJedi Full Member
oracleongoodbye Sr. Member
MarcusMillstrom Full Member
digaran Hero Member
temarazin Full Member
vipganyan Copper Member
Nestade Full Member
dinofelis Hero Member
udonmez Sr. Member
amaclin1 Full Member
hybridsole Hero Member
jackg Copper Member
ETFbitcoin Legendary
JeremyB Full Member
duesoldi Sr. Member
pebwindkraft Full Member
Hellmouth42 Full Member
Ibian Legendary
JimboToronto Legendary
NotFuzzyWarm Legendary
cryptolord2077 Full Member
squatter Hero Member
Paashaas Legendary
crackfoo Legendary
ophyrim Sr. Member
roslinpl Legendary
udivkx Full Member
Avatar2030 Full Member
DNotes Legendary
Dabs Staff
Incognito01 Full Member
MorpheWQ Legendary
dumbdragon Sr. Member
kingcarsen Sr. Member
sourish Full Member
B!gSmoke Sr. Member
Ksjywe4ka Full Member
payjoe93 Full Member
Alone055 Member
OmegaStarScream Staff
PavelRostov Full Member
YulyNov Full Member
denis-z12 Full Member
nutildah Legendary
Dice-Bet Full Member
Ekaterinat Full Member
F2b Full Member
The_ Flash Full Member
exus Full Member
hatshepsut93 Hero Member
mezzomix Legendary
owlcatz Legendary
BitPanda.com Full Member
Bolt Brownie Sr. Member
Cryptoshka Full Member
Early_Waffle Full Member
NeverArgueWithWF Full Member
Urbinklin Full Member
chandra12 Full Member
coffeandtango Newbie
doudou1110 Member
easyboy Member
jooj Sr. Member
tyKiwanuka Full Member
wnj4 Sr. Member

"Self Made" Sr. Members:
Code:
UserName Rank
iasenko Sr. Member
o_e_l_e_o Sr. Member
pitipawn Full Member
BTCforJoe Hero Member
sncc Sr. Member
marlboroza Hero Member
HCP Hero Member
HairyMaclairy Hero Member
TheQuin Hero Member
bitmover Full Member
infofront Legendary
jojo69 Legendary
zazarb Legendary
qwk Donator
Hhampuz Hero Member
Torque Legendary
DannyHamilton Legendary
Welsh Staff
deeperx Sr. Member
explorder Sr. Member
LeGaulois Copper Member
coinlocket$ Sr. Member
GameKyuubi Sr. Member
OgNasty Donator
JayJuanGee Legendary
bill gator Copper Member
DarkStar_ Legendary
Carlton Banks Legendary
Smart man Sr. Member
philipma1957 Legendary
romanornr Hero Member
xhomerx10 Legendary
yahoo62278 Legendary
abhiseshakana Full Member
gawlea Hero Member
mole0815 Sr. Member
PHI1618 Sr. Member
hilariousandco Global Moderator
QuestionAuthority Legendary
bob123 Hero Member
Toxic2040 Sr. Member
mfort312 Sr. Member
mstfprcn Hero Member
pandukelana2712 Sr. Member
pugman Legendary
Husna QA Full Member
mdayonliner Sr. Member
poptop Hero Member
Matthias9515 Hero Member
BitCryptex Sr. Member
by rallier Legendary
esmanthra Sr. Member
shorena Copper Member
Xynerise Sr. Member
actmyname Copper Member
Coolcryptovator Copper Member
zentdex Full Member
TryNinja Hero Member
gentlemand Legendary
tonych Hero Member
zonefloor Hero Member
alex bond Hero Member
AlyattesLydia Sr. Member
Limx Dev Copper Member
Elwar Legendary
saulzaents Hero Member
ATMcoin Hero Member
Ajpa94 Brand new
RuSS512 Sr. Member
Steamtyme Sr. Member
Tukang Becak Hero Member
athanz88 Sr. Member
identifyuser Hero Member
minerjones Copper Member

"Self Made" Hero Members:
Code:
UserName Rank
hilariousetc Legendary
Last of the V8s Hero Member
nullius Copper Member
Lutpin Copper Member
Jet Cash Legendary
suchmoon Legendary
Vod Legendary
The Pharmacist Legendary
TMAN Hero Member
achow101 Staff
xtraelv Sr. Member
micgoossens Sr. Member
Lauda Legendary
Piggy Hero Member
joniboini Sr. Member
theyoungmillionaire Full Member
krogothmanhattan Hero Member
gmaxwell Staff
BobLawblaw Legendary

"Self Made" Legendary Members:
Code:
UserName Rank
theymos Administrator
satoshi Founder
LoyceV Legendary
DdmrDdmr Sr. Member

3. Who are the users that could be "Self Made" Full Member, Sr. Member, Hero Member or Legendary that have enough earned merit but do not have enough activity?2,3

The "Self Made" Full Members that will upgrade rank once they have enough activity:
Code:
UserName Rank Total Earned Merit
Claymore Donator 218
mprep Global Moderator 212
ICOEthics Member 168
nessie.io Newbie 148
anunymint Brand new 127
Hal VIP 122
Dr.Mann Jr. Member 119
etherclassic Member 116
gallisiardi Member 115
ChardsElican28 Member 113
alia Jr. Member 113
Alone055 Member 102
coffeandtango Newbie 100
doudou1110 Member 100
easyboy Member 100

The "Self Made" Sr. Members that will upgrade rank once they have enough activity:
Code:
UserName Rank Total Earned Merit
pitipawn Full Member 478
bitmover Full Member 412
qwk Donator 384
OgNasty Donator 355
abhiseshakana Full Member 325
hilariousandco Global Moderator 321
Husna QA Full Member 291
zentdex Full Member 262
Ajpa94 Brand new 250

The "Self Made" Hero Members that will upgrade rank once they have enough activity:
Code:
UserName Rank Total Earned Merit
xtraelv Sr. Member 649
micgoossens Sr. Member 616
joniboini Sr. Member 555
theyoungmillionaire Full Member 554

The "Self Made" Legendary Members that will upgrade rank once they have enough activity:
Code:
UserName Rank Total Earned Merit
DdmrDdmr Sr. Member 1000
Notes:
2. Users that have the rank of Founder, Administrator, Staff have been excluded from these stats as they have a special status that can get them merit more easily than the average user.
3. Until we have updated User data that includes the "true" rank of users, I have also removed Copper Members users from these stats.



Disclaimer:
1. The user rank data is 5-6 days old so you can expect some discrepancies in the data show here. Nonetheless, I will update everything once the user data is updated.
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September 28, 2018, 08:47:10 AM
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Everything should be honest, Merit should reflect the rank, free Merit is just misleading.

A lot of spam accounts.

P.S. I put the Merit author, as I can!
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September 28, 2018, 08:49:14 AM
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Don't forget that some Heroes received an airdrop of more thn 500 merits if they had enough activity for the basic legendary requirement.

Jet Cash was not one of those.

I disabled Fit to Talk registrations because of applications by non-member spammers. Click here to send me a PM if you would like to join.
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September 28, 2018, 09:26:13 AM
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Everything should be honest, Merit should reflect the rank, free Merit is just misleading.

A lot of spam accounts.

P.S. I put the Merit author, as I can!
Yes, indeed, there are a lot of account with higher ranks that spam the sh*t out of this forum. Just check Bitcoin & Altcoin discussion.

Don't forget that some Heroes received an airdrop of more thn 500 merits if they had enough activity for the basic legendary requirement.

Jet Cash was not one of those.
Only the earned merit is counted anyway. I have listed the airdropped merit to give a bit of background to the whole idea.

I know there are Hero members that have received 1000 merits because the promotion to Legendary is based on variable activity range 775-1030.

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September 28, 2018, 01:03:14 PM
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Just kidding, but it's really interesting to get tons of self-made Newbies due to the latest upgrade of the forum's rank requirements which requires at least one merit to be a Junior Member.
Furtheremore, @LoyceV managed a highly informative topic on potential new ranked Junior Members after the start of new rank requirements around one week ago.
List of demoted Jr. Members who were ranked up again
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September 28, 2018, 03:01:34 PM
 #6

In my humble opinion, "Self-made Legendary" means the user has both the required Merit and Activity. Satoshi can't be one of those, as he hasn't posted in 8 years.

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September 28, 2018, 03:09:33 PM
Merited by Lafu (1), o_e_l_e_o (1), Smarty14392 (1)
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Man, I lucked out when I made Legendary.  Not only did I have to wait until I had an activity of 1023 (or thereabouts), but I achieved the rank right before the merit system was implemented.  It's pure luck that I'm not still a Hero member.  Earning 1000 merits takes a hell of a lot of time.

I like these lists here.  Newbie bounty spammers are constantly complaining that it's too hard to rank up, but here's solid evidence that anyone can do it if they put in enough *quality* effort.

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September 28, 2018, 03:14:43 PM
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I like these lists here.  Newbie bounty spammers are constantly complaining that it's too hard to rank up, but here's solid evidence that anyone can do it if they put in enough *quality* effort.

That's my main goal to reach this! 
And it takes time to doing that but it can be done !
Never give up !

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September 28, 2018, 03:34:50 PM
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Furtheremore, @LoyceV managed a highly informative topic on potential new ranked Junior Members after the start of new rank requirements around one week ago.
List of demoted Jr. Members who were ranked up again
I was just curios about this one that has 100 merit with newbie account cool newbie 100 merit here rank seems questionable.

Just kidding, but it's really interesting to get tons of self-made Newbies due to the latest upgrade of the forum's rank requirements which requires at least one merit to be a Junior Member.
Do you have a tool for this to check on how many jr.members was being demoted to newbie rank?

I bet those days were lucky days for some members here that has got default merit since they had complied already the activity that was being required to rank up  not until the implementation of the merit system which other members could hardly rank up then. Though there are people that has made their account to rank up but I bet these members are an extraordinary or genius when it comes to technicalities of this forum and could be able to produce high quality post from the technical aspects of this forum more likely IT experts and computer programming genius just one post for that aspect they could gather more or less 10 merits per post. So we could expect that achieving full member rank would only be a 10 post for them. And in the likes of us newbie? Well, no comment. LOL
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Last edit: September 28, 2018, 04:19:34 PM by o_e_l_e_o
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Though there are people that has made their account to rank up but I bet these members are an extraordinary or genius when it comes to technicalities of this forum and could be able to produce high quality post from the technical aspects of this forum more likely IT experts and computer programming genius just one post for that aspect they could gather more or less 10 merits per post. So we could expect that achieving full member rank would only be a 10 post for them. And in the likes of us newbie? Well, no comment. LOL

I wholeheartedly disagree.

I am currently the 25th most merited poster on the forum, having earned 498 merit at time of writing. I am not an IT expert, a programmer, or a genius. I certainly don't think I'm an extraordinary poster. The only reason I'm a good poster is because the bar is set so low by the thousands of spammers dragging down the average.

My advice to newbies looking for merit is always the same - read far, far more than you post, and only post at all if you have an original, coherent thought that hasn't been said 100 times before.

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September 28, 2018, 04:21:57 PM
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I recently read a topic where there was a discussion about the users who have earned enough merit and have therefore earned their rank.
Is this the place where that discussion held Wink

Can you guess the rank?? It's my own creation and I called it Elite Legendary
How about self-made Legendary?

I was curious to see how would the user ranks look like if we were to remove the airdropped merit that was given to existing higher ranked users on Jan 24th by default, if they already had an account that was ranked Member & up.
Good job OP. I am also thinking about this idea a while and it's nice to see you make that list. I think this "earned merit" concept also has two sides. By just considering the earned merits only would not determine whether those particular users "self-made" rank. Some of those users would gain more merits than the newly registered users (users registered after Jan 24th) for their old posts if the merit system would be implemented earlier. So as a fact we can't just compare the users having a lot of earned merits with the early legendaries at least in some cases. Other side of that fact is also true because some of the so-called legendaries would not be able to rank up even full member status if the merit system implemented earlier.

In my humble opinion, "Self-made Legendary" means the user has both the required Merit and Activity. Satoshi can't be one of those, as he hasn't posted in 8 years.
Actually, with all due respect, Satoshi, he shouldn't be on this list. @theymos and @LoyceV are the first two self-made legendaries
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September 28, 2018, 04:29:16 PM
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Never give up !
Wish me luck guys!

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September 28, 2018, 08:37:26 PM
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In my humble opinion, "Self-made Legendary" means the user has both the required Merit and Activity.
Agreed. Activity is important too, it takes a lot of dedication to post here for a rough 3 years to gain 1k activity.

At this time, activity is not available in the Piggy's tool so, could not take it into account. He said he's going to include it so, I'll be creating more elaborate lists when available.

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I like these lists here.  Newbie bounty spammers are constantly complaining that it's too hard to rank up, but here's solid evidence that anyone can do it if they put in enough *quality* effort.
There are about 5k "self made" members so, I think the newbies that are complaining are just the spammers, not the ones doing good posts.
Didn't want to add those metrics since I considered earning 10 merits trivial.

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September 28, 2018, 09:39:39 PM
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So are we "Self Made Hero-to-be-on-time" then? Wink I need 5 more months to reach the activity for Hero, and if all goes with the same tempo as til now, looks like till then I'll be having enough merit for Legendary which in terms of activity will be in 2 years, somewhere in 2020.. o_0

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September 29, 2018, 01:54:53 AM
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I don't have tools for this, but @LoyceV have made a great topic on this issue.
What do you need more?
List of demoted Jr. Members who were ranked up again
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Do you have a tool for this to check on how many jr.members was being demoted to newbie rank?

Did you want to get a case study?
here you go: Full Member thanks to merit system (iasenko)
Please read it carefully.
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Though there are people that has made their account to rank up but I bet these members are an extraordinary or genius when it comes to technicalities of this forum and could be able to produce high quality post from the technical aspects of this forum more likely IT experts and computer programming genius just one post for that aspect they could gather more or less 10 merits per post. So we could expect that achieving full member rank would only be a 10 post for them.

All ones have same rights to compose, then publish their threads, show off their ideas. All deserved merit threads will catch attention of forum users, sometimes got merits from readers, sometimes don't get them, but it's not too bad. At least, highly qualitied threads have higher odds to catch attention of readers. That's enough.
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And in the likes of us newbie? Well, no comment. LOL
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September 29, 2018, 02:29:21 AM
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Merit was designed to be accumulated at approximately the same rate as activity.

So there are a lot of Legendary that have not yet received 1000 merits (other than their airdropped merits).

It is expected to take at least 2 - 3 years to rank to Legendary so for Legendaries it would be unfair to say that they don't have the self made merit.

If a legendary received around 200- 300 merits by now they would be well on their way to being "self made" by the time the 2-3 years are up.

Also people often have bursts on a forum  (Periods where they post a lot) . So they may be taking it easy at the moment.

Some really good content was posted over a number of years but only the "famous historic content" gets merited.

Most merit is given to new content.

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September 29, 2018, 05:31:52 AM
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So are we "Self Made Hero-to-be-on-time" then? Wink I need 5 more months to reach the activity for Hero, and if all goes with the same tempo as til now, looks like till then I'll be having enough merit for Legendary which in terms of activity will be in 2 years, somewhere in 2020.. o_0
Yeah... hang on buddy Smiley You're going to rank-up in no time.
Maybe there would be a good idea to automatically rank up to Legendary in case you reach 2k merit and not have the required activity. @theymos, what do you say?

Merit was designed to be accumulated at approximately the same rate as activity.

So there are a lot of Legendary that have not yet received 1000 merits (other than their airdropped merits).

It is expected to take at least 2 - 3 years to rank to Legendary so for Legendaries it would be unfair to say that they don't have the self made merit.

If a legendary received around 200- 300 merits by now they would be well on their way to being "self made" by the time the 2-3 years are up.
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Totally agree. These stats are not made to upset any people who are not "self made" yet. But a way to prove to others, who are skeptical on the merit system, that it is actually possible to rank-up and gather large amounts of merit.
Getting 1k merits is no easy task and some people have managed to do it, not to mention that there are 19 Heros & 74 Sr. Members that are "self made" and a lot of those people are the current Legendary members. So, they haven't got the Legendary rank for nothing.
I have edited the OP, after reading it again I see how the message could be perceived in a different way by some readers.

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Some really good content was posted over a number of years but only the "famous historic content" gets merited.

Most merit is given to new content.
I would say this is partially true, as I see there are a lot of posts from the past that were merited.
For the majority of cases you're right, older posts did not get the visibility, thus were not merited.
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September 29, 2018, 07:23:35 AM
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Merit was designed to be accumulated at approximately the same rate as activity.
What worries me though is that the most merited users have only received 4 times that amount (I'm not counting theymos as a user), and that just 100 users have received enough Merit to keep up with Activity. Those 100 users include users who got their merit through abuse.
When I look at half this amount (0.5 Merit per Activity), there are 250 users who have reached this. If I scroll down the list further, I still see many names I recognize (and many unknown names too). I think many of those users shouldn't be restricted by Merit, which implies there isn't enough Merit going around.

Maybe there would be a good idea to automatically rank up to Legendary in case you reach 2k merit and not have the required activity. @theymos, what do you say?
Bad idea, that can be gamed. The current system of requiring both a long time commitment to the forum as well as quality posts is a good combination.
Example: nullius! He posted for a few months only, then disappeared. If he would have stayed one month longer, he would have been Legendary in your proposal. But he lacks the long term commitment.

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September 29, 2018, 05:49:25 PM
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What worries me though is that the most merited users have only received 4 times that amount (I'm not counting theymos as a user), and that just 100 users have received enough Merit to keep up with Activity. Those 100 users include users who got their merit through abuse.
When I look at half this amount (0.5 Merit per Activity), there are 250 users who have reached this. If I scroll down the list further, I still see many names I recognize (and many unknown names too). I think many of those users shouldn't be restricted by Merit, which implies there isn't enough Merit going around.
Yes, that's right, merit is usually not enough and merit sources tend to pass along low amounts of it. If the amounts would increase I think the re-circulation would work better and would reach more users.

Bad idea, that can be gamed. The current system of requiring both a long time commitment to the forum as well as quality posts is a good combination.
Example: nullius! He posted for a few months only, then disappeared. If he would have stayed one month longer, he would have been Legendary in your proposal. But he lacks the long term commitment.
Ok, I see your point. I was just thinking of a way to reward users by doing so.
Maybe a new rank would make more sense then, something like "Self Made Member" maybe?
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September 29, 2018, 06:17:29 PM
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I was just thinking of a way to reward users by doing so.
"Merit" is the reward already. It's an amazing system: I didn't need any from the beginning, and yet, I want to have more of it.

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Maybe a new rank would make more sense then, something like "Self Made Member" maybe?
Ultimately, we should all become self-made members Smiley

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