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41  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Encouraging Donations. on: October 13, 2011, 08:32:55 PM
You could ask for a small fee ($5-$10) to get access for 3-4 months to review detailed logs and history, and once a year release all the logs to public (to avoid withholding valuable information).

There is a lot of press going on on bitcoin lately, and they (will) need detailed information. You could profit from that while providing valuable information to the community.
42  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Well, it sure feels like 6 months ago. on: September 12, 2011, 07:18:41 PM
This is when I bought my last dozen or so Bitcoins, at about $4. Who here is in the same league? Who has yet to lose a dime even with this steep decline?

Well, I haven't invested money directly, but I'm working my ass off in Bitcoin related projects. And I enjoy every second of it.

I've first heard about Bitcoin around April with the SilkRoad bonanza and Gawker article, I've sense earned 18.23Ƀ from my Safebit Bitcoin project. As long as I can provide for my family I'm going to continue working on Bitcoin, I really think that it's going to be worth my while...
43  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is Closed. If you were cool enough you would already be here! on: September 12, 2011, 07:14:37 PM


This is a real problem in the Bitcoin community that I feel needs to be discussed.

I remember when I first found out about Bitcoin, it was just early spring time this year, right before Bitcoin hit the big time. Bitcoin was worth 0.85 USD, and the difficulty was so low that my first day mining with a GPU I mined 8 coins with a single 5870 that wasn't even overclocked (ahh the good old days) Smiley

The Bitcoin forums at that time were a completely different environment. There was a real sense of openness and adventure. People welcome each others ideas. Free thought was encouraged! It was an exciting time.

I know this sounds like I am reminiscing about the good old days but this was only like six months ago! I don't know what happened!?

There is no openess, there is no encouragement. Free thought!? You better keep it to yourself man.

You have got this superiority disease that seems to have infected nearly everyone - these Elitist Super geeks who think they are smarter than anyone, sitting up on their high horses and looking down at everyone. Trying to find new ways to exclude people and new ways to put them selves up on a pedestal

Then you have the trolls. Searching and Searching for an idea to squash, for some confidence to extinguish. is it Attack or be attacked? You really do not make yourself look better by putting down others. This bully mentality is disgusting.

On top of that you have the Pool Hop generation. The guys who have an entitlement complex.  The resentful Bitcoin youth that jumped on the band wagon when BTC was trading for $30 USD and now want to take every crumb that isnt nailed down. Listen fellas the Bitcoin world does not owe you anything.

I sympathize with the Bitcoin forum Mods and Admins I really do, you have a very hard job trying to keep this place under control, but as this forum is basically the epicenter of the Bitcoin world I do not agree with the newbie system. I think that we need to include as many people from outside as possible and not exclude them just because they got here late. I understand why we have this system and the purpose it is supposed to be serving is good but I personally believe it does more hard to Bitcoin than good.

Bitcoin is Closed! - For most people this is what they think and feel, the people who are first hearing about Bitcoin today, and they come to the forums and start looking around , that banner "Bitcoin is closed" this is how they feel and its hurting Bitcoin as a whole.

Thank you for your time in reading this, and if I offended you I am sorry. I love Bitcoin, I truly do and like many of you I have a lot of time, and money invested and I really want to see Bitcoin succeed. This thread was created to get people thinking about the good of Bitcoin and the good in themselves.

I happily invite all input, but please use good judgement and answer as the mature adult you are, I do now want this to turn into an argument.

+1 on that. I hear you, and I feel the same way. I'm not a newbie anymore, but even so it feels like sometime I'm struggling to get some answers out, because it's like a secret society that I'm trying to punch my way into.

I hope your call will be heard!
44  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Safebit - Official Preview Version released today! on: September 11, 2011, 06:34:16 PM
How does this make Bitcoin use any safer than using the official client?

At this point in time - it doesn't. It's just a preview version which is basically a GUI wrapper around the official bitcoin client that may look nicer and perhaps easier to use.
We're already working on making this secure and safe in future versions.

This is just the start...
45  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Safebit - Official Preview Version released today! on: September 11, 2011, 06:17:32 PM
And what about http://www.safebit.net/ and their problem with you using the same name as their product?
Has it been resolved?

Before anyone asks, the owner of safebit.net sent me a mail because I posted about this safebit at Coinbits.com and I sent a PM to the OP, but he never acknowledged if he even got the PM, so I'm asking here.

The mail that i got was the following
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Hello.
I see that you have a product named SafeBit.
I'd like to point out that we also have a product with the same name, a much older product. I highly recommend that you change the name of your product - since it's a newer product anyway.

Thank you.
Adrian Gheara.
www.safebit.net

Yes, he thought i was the owner of safebit(or he sent the same email to lots of blog owners, i dunno) Roll Eyes

EDIT: I see that the OP talked about this matter a few posts back, sorry, haven't read the whole thread.


Yea yea, I know... A problematic issue.

I love the name, and I came up with it completely unrelated to the above product, and I think you're the one who got my attention (after you got the email from them) to this.

Not sure, right now I'm trying to refer to my product as "Safebit Bitcoin" but the official name (as you can see) is "Safebit".

There are different products with the same name out there, so I guess we could co-exist. In any case I'll mention them where ever it could cause a confusion and will link to their site if needed.
46  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Safebit - Official Preview Version released today! on: September 11, 2011, 03:14:36 PM
why there is the photo of a apple thing?  Roll Eyes

It looks good  Tongue
47  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Safebit - Official Preview Version released today! on: September 11, 2011, 02:40:33 PM
I'm no security expert
We can both agree on that. The security issue is allowing a browser extension full control over your bitcoin wallet. This opens your bitcoin application to malicious attacks from the developer, or someone forging the developer's identity.

Security issues aside, this looks very nice, I'm sorry if I won't test it Smiley

Considering the fact that you use your browser to access financial websites like bank and PayPal, I think it's silly not to rely on Chrome to provide the state-of-the-art security when it comes to security around the apps.

It's your choice, but before you make wild claims that it's insecure or that it's open to malicious attacks, better check your facts.

And unless someone manages to steal my google account, you can trust the "Install App" on the chrome web store. That's why I chose it by the way, it allows me to concentrate on making Safebit and not trying to re-invent the wheel when it comes to secure distribution  and quality assurance and user control.

Again, before making claims that do not hold water, check your facts...

And having said that, I am no security expert, the people who work at Google and make sure that these stuff are taken care of, are security experts (some of them).
48  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Safebit - Official Preview Version released today! on: September 11, 2011, 02:26:35 PM
I like the idea, but hate the name.

I'm no security expert but can certainly tell that something running in any Browser JVM shouldn't be considered "safe".
I pledge a bounty of 0.5 BTC if you change the name.

A) This is not running Java. This is pure Javascript and HTML. Regarding security - well, you can consider security by obscurity secure, but I don't. And Safebit will always be open-source, so all security needs to come from other sources, not by obscurity.

B) I really like the name Safebit, although it collides with another product (see http://safebit.net). For this is the chosen name, you can pledge your coins toward better causes than making me change the name. Perhaps you could come up with a better name? Wink
49  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Safebit - Official Preview Version released today! on: September 11, 2011, 02:23:57 PM
i cant use it?

edit: do i HAVE to use chrome?

Yes, you have to use Chrome at this point to use Safebit. Maybe in the future it will be a stand-alone product, but at least for the next couple of months this will be a Chrome app.

For non-chrome users: You can create a desktop shortcut that will not make you run Chrome every time you want to launch Safebit. When you open a new tab (CTRL+T or Click on the (+) icon at the right-most part of the tabs on chrome) you will see Safebit (after installing obviously) in the Apps section.
When you hover over the icon with your cursor, you will see a small wrench at the top right corner appearing, clicking on that wrench will allow you to "Create Shortcut". After creating this shortcut you can launch Safebit directly from desktop without needing to launch Chrome (although this will obviously launch Chrome instance but it will be dedicated just for Safebit).
50  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Safebit - Official Preview Version released today! on: September 11, 2011, 02:08:38 PM
So after a few months that you've heard from me and my ideas, today I'm finally making a first release of Safebit. It's not the "Final" version, it's not anywhere close to that, right now it's a GUI wrapper around the regular bitcoind and this version intended for experienced bitcoin users - it's not ready for newbies who have no idea how to configure the JSON-RPC or what some of the terms in the bitcoin world mean.


Safebit is released as a Chrome Packaged App - meaning this is a web app that can be installed directly in Chrome without needing any additional software installation (except of course the official Bitcoin client to provide JSON-RPC), it's basically one-click install and all you need to start playing with it is a working version of Chrome - on any platform! Note: You can chose to provide an external JSON-RPC server (i.e. installed anywhere else on the internet, not locally on your machine) and this could potentially work as a "hosted wallet" - I would highly discourage that at this point, as I'm not sure how it will behave and there are no caching mechanisms inside Safebit and you will be basically hammering the external server (but you could do that if you chose...) - So if you're planning to experiment, please be careful, and if you could I'd really like to hear your results!

The App: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ablfbfgmgfoggdhhcnledndibdihggpb?hl=en-US

Also, Safebit has a new home: http://safeb.it/ - this is the domain that Safebit will be using to release updates, information, and eventually it will the official home for Safebit.

I've also opened a GetStatisfaction account for Safebit: http://getsatisfaction.com/safebit/ , also accessible directly within the app via the "Feedback" button at the bottom left of the screen. This could be a stage to provide ideas, report bugs, and general rants about Safebit, so feel free to go there and put your opinion there.

Safebit also has an official forum: http://forums.safeb.it/, the forum is powered by Reddit, a community that I love very much and have supported the Safebit idea from the very first minutes of it's existence.

The repository for Safebit has also changed (mainly because of the way things are handled as a Chrome app instead of relying on Python), and the new repository is accessible through: https://github.com/elis/Safebit - My skills with git are just getting there so pardon if you see problems or something is missing, I'm doing my best...

If I'm forgetting anything right now, please feel free to ask, I'll respond and also edit this post to update with the forgotten details.

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Support Safebit
As some of you may know, I'm currently hard at work trying to secure the funding to make Safebit a successful Bitcoin Wallet and there is some interest from all kinds of investors. If you'd like to help Safebit and make sure that it will be developed to the full potential, you have a lot of ways helping me in making this a reality:

  • Donation This is simple! If you're already using Safebit, just go to the "Support Safebit!" section (the rightmost-tab), or you can donate via any other bitcoin wallet to this address: 1Cm554iqhU9dLnZsi2LA5s1b576DdfM1GM
  • Promote Safebit If you like Safebit make sure you tell everybody you know that is somehow into bitcoin to try it out, and spread the word. The more people are downloading and installing the more chances I have of making this my day job and devoting more and more resources to developing Safebit
  • Facebook Like Visit our Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Safebit/285842344765241 and make sure you "Like" the page, this little "Like" goes a long way especially if we manage to get a substantial amount of people who like Safebit, and it actually tells us that there are people who like the product and want to see more.
  • Subscribe to mailing list On the official site: http://safeb.it/ there is a small input box that you can use to put your email down and subscribe for updates. The more people are subscribing to this the more demand there is for the product in the eyes of potential investors.
  • Join the forums As noted above, our forums are provided by Reddit - http://forums.safeb.it/ , so if you join (subscribe) it will get even more attention from Reddit users (as the users on /r/safebit are not exclusive and are shared across the entire Reddit ecosystem) and popular subreddits are sometimes promoted on the main page.
  • Write Plugins Safebit is a Web App written in Javascript, HTML, and CSS. So if you ever made a website chances are you'll be able to write plugins for Safebit. Feel free to visit the public repository: https://github.com/elis/Safebit, download it, and start playing around with it (you need to enable "Developer Mode" in chrome to load-up unpacked extensions). If you want to submit anything to the main branch - let me know and create a pull request, I'll be happy to incorporate your plugin!
  • Exposures Exposure Exposure Anyway you chose to support Safebit is legit! Pick your prefered method and help make Safebit the leading open-source Bitcoin wallet that is designed to make newbies feel welcome and not distracted by complex UIs and hard-to-explain terminology. Spread the word, let people know about Safebit and Bitcoin, and feel free to contribute in anyway you like. Anything Goes!

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Thanks for reading the above, and thanks for all the support I got from this community in the past couple of months. Without your kind words and the donations I wouldn't have taken on myself developing Safebit, so anyone of you who said anything nice or donated some coins you've actually helped to get Safebit up to this stage. Thanks Guys and Gals! Let's make Bitcoin a reality, and let's make it easy to use.
51  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Show and Bruce Wagner - Can someone sum up all the recent events? on: September 09, 2011, 10:30:24 AM
http://buttcoin.org/

Read the first 2-3 pages.

Went through that, already. Has some interesting stuff in it.

But what I'm interested is Bruce's comment on all of this.
Bruce has become in the past few months "The Voice/Face of Bitcoin", and I'm not really sure if that's a good thing that our public presenter is a known scam artist who steals money from people who have none.

I don't know if Bruce is or isn't what people claim him to be, but I'd really, REALLY like to hear his side of the argument or otherwise I will consider it as him admitting to failure and accepting all the things that are being said about him as truth. And if that's the case, I don't want this cum rag to be the face of Bitcoin, and I will propagate my anti-bruce ideas forward.

So did Bruce said anything about those stuff? Bruce - I'm waiting...
52  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / The Bitcoin Show and Bruce Wagner - Can someone sum up all the recent events? on: September 09, 2011, 09:55:32 AM
I've just noticed that The Bitcoin Sham has a new episode (watching it right now) which was released on Sep 8th, i.e. yesterday.

Can someone please sum up what happened with the Bruce Wagner/Tom Williams and all the rest?

Is the community is OK with a persona such as Bruce Wagner being the face of Bitcoin? Has he explained anything of the recent news on him and the Pattaya issue?

What's going on?
53  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Concerns about the fluctuation, even dramatic, of the price of Bitcoin... on: September 06, 2011, 08:11:27 AM
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shitty foundation? Please, tell us more, you seem so knowledgeable...


Where have you been the last two months of rape and pillage?

Care to elaborate instead of throwing out unusable statements?
You say the internet is a shitty foundation, now please explain...

And I've been developing Safebit in the last two months, if you really must know...
54  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Concerns about the fluctuation, even dramatic, of the price of Bitcoin... on: September 06, 2011, 07:17:38 AM
It's failing because nobody is going to buy a solid house on a shitty foundation.


solid house-> bitcoin
shitty foundation -> internet.

shitty foundation? Please, tell us more, you seem so knowledgeable...
55  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Concerns about the fluctuation, even dramatic, of the price of Bitcoin... on: September 06, 2011, 06:41:21 AM
Guys!!

 I see a lot of discussion about the price of Bitcoin... Desperate people, thinking that is the end of the world the price of Bitcoin fall and fall but... What intrigues me is over:

 Why is the price rise so quickly in the first place ?!?!?

 The only answer I have in mind: The price of Bitcoin rise because the two U.S. senators have discovered about it and about Silkroad and they decided to try crack down the network... All parrot stuff... Media etc and etc... BOOM! The price went up... But in fact, the price was not worth much and, apparently still is not.

 So my curiosity is: What would it cost the Bitcoin today if this had not happened a few months ago?!

 That is, the trend should be the price of Bitcoin go back to the levels before this news, since the Bitcoin economy is not really prepared to be as valuable as they say it is worth.

 Thus, the Bitcoin value will going back to be more valuable in the future, maybe in a couple of years, or before, but everything will depend on the reformulation Bitcoin client, so it should be much more friendly and safe (backups, automatic wallet encryption and etc.) and especially , in global acceptance of Bitcoins for goods and services.

 We still have a LOT of work to do!!

 This is just the beginning. We shouldn't fear the Bitcoin price these days...

 Lets work more and talk less fellas!! COME ON!!

 The Bitcoin needs more developers!! C coders, Python coders, GUI design builders, a libbitcoin detached from the GUI, wallet encryption per default and automatic, more rich and user friendly interface, a web panel to your local bitcoind... And most important, a democratic development. Not this democratic we have in politics... A REAL open source democracy.

Best,
Thiago

+1

And I'll elaborate:

I guess that some of you are following the progress of Safebit, so some of you know that I'm raising funds to make really something out of it and not leave at a "open-source bitcoin wallet" status that most of the wallets out there are stuck on.

During the last couple of months, I've started meeting with very interesting people in the world of finances and high-tech, and I'm very surprised at how far and wide the idea of Bitcoin has spread.
There is only a handful of people in those areas who haven't heard about bitcoin at all, they may not know it by heart as we do, but they are listening and looking, following the progress.
I'm talking about Fortune 500 companies, venture capital, angels, financial companies, and technological companies. Everybody seems to know about bitcoin.

Their take on the idea itself is as varied as we see here on the forums, it seems that some think that it's passing fade, others are sure it's the next best thing, while some think that's it's like the Napster and we're still waiting for our Bittorrent (which I disagree with, because Bitcoin is already at the Bittorrent stage imho).

What most of the people here think wrongly is that this forum is any indication of what's really going on. There are numerous start-ups and entrepreneurs out there trying to make Bitcoin the big success that we all think it could be, and there are business people who are putting money on those ideas and people.

Currently 90% of the development we see in Bitcoin is catered by developers who invest their time into it without seeing a coin out of it (well, not true in this case, but you get the drift), open-source is sweet and all, but you can't build businesses and economy around open-source and free developers, it just doesn't work.

Soon, 6-or-so months from now, we'll start seeing high-quality work coming out of those not-free developers, where high-end products will start to dominate the Bitcoin landscape and bringing in more and more outsiders that would take interest in Bitcoins' great features and the fact that you don't need to pay for transactions of any size, and the fact that Bitcoin is unregulated and extremely hard to trace, this especially will cater to black-market, which is part of any market, and also porn. It's not coincidence that porn were the first businesses we saw using Bitcoins.

We all know that Bitcoin has boat-load of advantages over the existing monetary system in terms of transaction fees, regulation, and anonymity. We are all here because of those feature, and it's interesting not only us, but everybody around the world. Most just haven't heard about Bitcoin yet.

The price of Bitcoin does not reflect anything, it's pure speculations. People are making a lot of money by playing with the price of Bitcoin, but for now the only things that people are buying with Bitcoins are USD and drugs, but that's going to change soon with the advent of high-quality developers backed by high-equity funding.

You don't have to believe me, and I even may be wrong, but just wait. And for those who are selling their coins because of the fear - I say good! at least there are buyers Wink
56  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: JSON-RPC Transaction fee? on: September 02, 2011, 05:57:57 AM
So basically there are only tow ways that I'm going to pay a fee:

1. I try to send an amount lower than 0.01 - Fee is 0.005
2. The system is telling me that I need to pay fee (because the block contains a lot of transactions?) - Fee is 0.005

The first method is easy, just check if I'm sending less than 1 bitcent,
To know in the second part I need to do getinfo and the paytxfee is above 0

Right? Feel free to correct where I'm wrong...
57  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / JSON-RPC Transaction fee? on: September 02, 2011, 12:38:55 AM
How can I get the transaction fee before sending the transaction?

There doesn't seem to be documentation about it in the wiki.
58  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin official sites? why on separate domains? on: September 01, 2011, 11:41:34 PM
Why all the "official" sites related to bitcoin - bitcointalk.org, bitcoin.org, bitcoin.it - are on different domains?
59  Other / Meta / A couple of new features I'd like to see on this forum on: August 31, 2011, 04:14:10 PM
I see a lot of people posting messages like "+1" or "Like" just to support whoever posted whatever they posted.
And this makes sense in our day and age with all the social web, and it obviously works so well that we use "+1" and "Like" everywhere we can.

The other thing is bitcoin "donations" that almost everyone on this forum has in his/hers signatures, and I think that they should be going the way of the dodo, because they are easily traceable and just plain ugly, making everybody here look like beggars (yea, check my signature at the bottom...).

My suggestions for two new features are:

1. A "+1" or "Like" or what-ever-you'll-name-it button that will allow users to click it and a small counter will grow on the post or comment, allowing people to show like/support for the post without leaving uninteresting comments like "+1" - Simple and easy

2. A "Tip" button to allow users to "tip" a certain post or comment with actual bitcoins directly from anyone (no need to be registered on the forum) to the address that the user that is being tipped set beforehand in his profile.
Almost every user on this forum has a "donation" address in his/hers signature, and it looks silly that it's so easily implementable to actually make donations, sorry Tips, so easy and straightforward.


Regarding implementation of a Tip button,
I think it would be useful if the forum software runs a small bitcoin client that all it does is creates addresses every time someone posts/comments, meaning that every new post on the forum has a unique bitcoin address, so whenever someone sends a "Tip" the forum software can pick it up, and write it down on the post. saying something like "1.18 bitcoins tipped".
After a Tip is sent, the forum software will send it to the predefined address set by the user of that post, or will do some hocus-pocus routing for the bitcoins to avoid direct tracing. For example, to reduce transaction fees, Bitcoins will be actually sent to the users once every 24 hours, in one transaction order.
60  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: EUROPEAN BITCOIN CONFERENCE 2011, PRAGUE NOV 25-27 on: August 31, 2011, 07:11:43 AM
Hey Mitch:

Here's a suggestion for the conference. Find Bitcoin detractors and let them debate the issues with members of the Bitcoin community. Find an economist who thinks Bitcoin is a pyramid scheme, give him a platform to expose his ideas, then have him debate them in the open with someone from the Bitcoin camp. Find a tech guy who thinks he may have detected a problem with the code and let him debate Gavin or Jeff. Find someone who believes the current monetary system is just fine, and that centralisation is crucial to a currency... you get the gist.

We need to open this discussion a bit. The rest of the world sees Bitcoin as a hobby, largely because the Bitcoin community is closed and has a definite proselytising slant to it. A sophisticated, high level argument will only benefit us in the end.

Cheers,

+1
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