And similar comments here - https://pay.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1z96nu/che_revolutioncoin_pool_pplns_1_vardiff_stratum/

And what can YOU do to make this coin innovative? Moaning doesn't count, better be suggestions or actual work instead.

OP translated into Russian - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495498.0

Less than 400 blocks before it halves. Get 32 CHE per block now.
CHE was one of five first coins added to lazycoins. Exchange lauches tomorrow.

What are you wating for? Join the revolution now - che.novahash.org

You are in the wrong thread, my friend. This is CHE RevolutionCoin, not Rotten CryptoApples. You should consider adding this coin instead. 

I have a proposal to change the OP a bit.

from


to


or something along these lines. imo it's more neutral, eliminates possible assotioation of "We" with a closed group and appeals to reader more.

Last few hundred blocks
Snatch them, they are hot 

32 CHE per block before it halves!!

About voting on 3rd party websites or on RevolutionCoin.org.

For the moment i guess it's better to keep voting on BitcoinTalk. I agree that using a 3rd party website or implementing voting on RevolutionCoin.org website would allow us to have multiple votes at a time, but the community is still in low numbers, therefore there will be less votes outside of bct. It would be a lot easier for people to pop in to the thread and make a vote rather than going to external website to vote. Once the community grows, we can look at it again.

The link to coindesk and Bitcoin fundraising mainly covers pro-West supporters who has occupied "Maidan". $15000 in aid will probably fund a day or two of food supplies to the "Maidan". Don't forget, that the whole country is in jeopardy at the moment with legally elected president hiding in Russia. Ukrain is about to split into three parts - West, East and Crimea. If we do raise funds we have to make sure that they are going to humanitarian aid and not funding any of the groups. By the way, pro-western supporters recieve a lot of support (including financial I believe) from EU and the USA politicians, who don't feel shy to come over to Kiev for talks with pro-western groups. I see it as an intervension into political life of an independent country. If such talks have to take place, then revolutionary groups should visit Brussels or Washington. On the other side one of Russian parliamentaries (V. Zhirinovskiy) announced organising volonteers in Russia to be sent to Ukrain as support to eastern parts of the country. Russia kept quiet for a long time during the conflict, but now they seem to intervene as well. Ukrain becomes a battle ground of political technologies between pro-Russia and pro-West groups and countries backing up such groups. Political battle in the Ukrain should be left to it's citizens. This is my opinion.


Due to chaotic situation within the country, I believe that hospitals and schools do not get much funding from budget at the moment. If we do choose a group or charity to distribute funds in the Ukrain, they should do it equally in all three parts of the country. The initiative should have a very transparent ledger. Almost a real time coverage in social media is necessary to avoid laundering and leaking of funds to any of fighting groups. Such social media coverage should be done by some established accounts rather than newly setup. Using escrows to buffer ourselves is a good idea, but we should also think about people who would do such escrow. We should equally think about not getting on multiple watch lists run by EU, USA, Russia and Ukrain.

Overall it is a good idea, but I agree with adversor - it must not be a political support.

Please check new colours and background of the block explorer - http://blockexplorer.revolutioncoin.org/ . Would like to hear your opinions.

by the way, i vote for bounty. forgot to mention  

For a better transparency it is a good idea to have a vote on bounties. One hour may not be enough as this thread is not so active yet, let's make it 2-3 hours.

Please check the OP, there are links to giveaways, some of them are very tempting - each one of you can get 1/4 of a block. Join the Revolution and spread a word!

Frangomel, network hash rate was less than 20MH/s yesterday morning if I am not mistaking. Now it's over 40MH/s and rising every minute, mainly because the OP was updated and discussions are taking place on forum. IRC channel is almost idle now. I agree that miners are vital to the coin success. That's why we need you back, comrade. 

There are less than 2000 blocks left with reward of 32 CHE per block, then it goes down to 16 CHE per block. Point your rigs at CHE and start mining! Still low diff, but hash rate goes up quickly.

 VIVA LA REVOLUCIÓN!

+1. Thanks for clarification.

There was some sort of battle between two members, as you remember I tried to calm both of them down. While some may disagree, majsta was doing a good job and I only wish he comes back. Rebranding was needed, though I passed while voting for the name change. Copyright issue is important and we have a red star until a permission to use Che's image is granted. There will be an Abe explorer available soon, so we can trace where 5k CHE are gone. No one can be branded as a thief without a proof, and assumptions mean nothing. I believe the justice will prevail.

Hope to see your MH back

Hi everyone, I kept silent on forum while working in the background, but see a lot of comments and question here, so I will try to answer most of them to clarify current situation.


Yes, there was some sort of disagreement and shakeout among the leadership of this project a few days ago. In my opinion there is nothing to post in the OP in regards to these disagreements, instead we should have open discussions in the thread. No one is taking over the coin, this is not leewilson's personal project, but a community drivven initiative. The OP is still under lee's account, but that should be changed soon.

A bit of history of shakeout on #crapples IRC channel from my perspective, which I hope is unbiased. It was obvious for everyone on the channel that two members of the team found it hard to co-exist, but that goes down to them taking many aspects of discussions personally. I am trying to stay out of politics and was happily working with both. When the project started, we used Che's image and there was a bouty to create a logo using same image. Everyone was excited, but soon we found out that the image is copyright protected, so in order to continue using that image we need to get a permission from the photographer or Che's daughter. By this time we had a logo and a wallet ready with Che's image and were ready to start promoting the coin. Copyright concerns were raised again by me on IRC channel about 4 days ago, I proposed to remove Che's image and use something else until we have a permission to use it. Some people agreed with me, others didn't. Then leewilson proposed a name change from Crapples to RevolutionCoin, so the coin won't be looked at some sort of crappy coin, but a coin which community stands for something. I proposed a vote for the name change. We didn't get many votes, though everyone who was on IRC channel at the moment had a chance to do so. I now regret that we didn't post a vote on forum. Anyway, lee, adversor and EchoingUprise voted for the name change, majsta against and I passed. This is how community on IRC split, new channel was created #revolutioncoin. Everyone was welcome there. A link to #revolutioncoin was also posted on #crapples, so people will not be left in the dark. Some would probably raise a question why the link to #revolutioncoin wasn't published on the thread and they would be right, I personally never anticipated that the community is a lot bigger than just a few members on IRC channel. I would like to sincerely apologise to everyone who has been left out in the dark. For a couple of days I was on both channels talking to people and answered questions about what happened. So what has been done to the coin? Not much, only branding has changed, blockchain remains the same - it is very important that miners are not affected and all earned coins remain intact.

I would like to thank eschemenk for raising these questions, it appears that the coin has a lot more followers than participants on IRC channels, where most of the discussions took place. That would probably has to change, or at least participants of IRC channel should keep updating the thread with current discussions and decisions more often.


Please read above what has happened on IRC channel.


Realising how many supporters this coin has, it is more likely the minority, though according to numbers of IRC channel members it was an equal split. EchoingUprise has made wallet rebranding and compiled a Windows wallet, adversor has built a website, novahash prepared a server for website hosting and compiled a Linux wallet,  funkwerk101 and a couple more are actively taking part in discussions.


I am glad you asked this openly rather than discussing such topics in private. The main thing at the moment is to gain cummunity support back and bring miners back to the coin. The whole idea behind the coin was a revolution in crypto community, we should protect public from rouge and incompetent developers. How we do it? Your suggestions are very welcome. It was also suggested by leewilson to go beyond cryptocurrency world and have some sort of initiative to help to refugee children from war torn countries. We didn't discuss our goals much, just agreed that our vision is same as when it started. The future of the coin and it's direction is very important and should be discussed openly by the community. Your suggestions, points of view, agreements and disagreements are vital to the future of the coin, so please speak up.


At the moment promotion is taking place. There are giveaways available, please check the OP.  Since the OP has been updated the network hash rate went slightly up. At the time of writing it is about 29 Mhs, you can check block explorer at http://blockexplorer.revolutioncoin.org/ for live statistics. As I remember, this project was started as a community coin with no developers, and it equally should have no managers, so everyone is welcome to take part in developing and promoting the coin. We still do not have Mac or Android wallet, faucets have to be made as well. There is a lot of marketing to do, so if you can help in any way to make this coin a success, please speak up.


Please read above where I wrote about what happened on #crapples IRC channel. I hope that we will rejoin again and start working together. As I mentioned, only branding has changed, which needed to be done for the coin's best. Using Che's image without copyright holder permission would put this coin in the same basket with all other coins accused of copyright infringiment.


Frangomel, your full post is addressed to lee, but let me answer some of it if you don't mind. It took us 3 days to rebrand a wallet and block explorer and create a new website, not more that it took majsta to build first wallet and a website. Under no circumstances I want to undermine majsta's effort and passion in developing this coin, but there were some disagreements over name change and the copyright. Majsta is welcome to continue working on the coin if he wishes to do so. Regardless of whether he decides to come back to the team or not, his name will be concreted in the coin's history as one of the activists and ideologists of the coin.


As far as I know, three users hold it at the moment: leewilson, adversor and EchoingUprise. I was told the amounts on IRC, but sadly can't remember them. I hope all three of them will post the amounts they have for transparency. Most of the premine will be used for giveaways and bounties. Leewilson has already started spending his part by posting giveaways, please see the OP.