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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 12, 2015, 08:03:38 PM
Hey guys, my wallet is not syncing. Any ideas: what's the last add node list? Thanks.

It's likely synchronised, when does it say last block was received?  The network is painfully slow at the moment which triggers the wallet UI to say it's some hours behind the network, when in fact it's not.

You can verify by checking the block height in your client, and comparing to the last block on the explorer.

If it is a network sync issue, simply close and reopen your client and it should connect to one of the master seed nodes and resolve the problem.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ORA :: NXT 'monetary system' currency on: January 12, 2015, 04:33:26 PM
Awesome news. Great to see ORA the currency come in to existence. Smiley

Thanks Este! It's taken us a while, but good things come to those with patience & perserverence  Grin

Congratulations!  Milestone achieved Smiley
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 12, 2015, 03:57:33 PM
rent some rigs for a couple of days to move blocks, fixed.

There are 361 blocks left to diff change, renting some hash for a couple of days would make BTM retarget to low diff, which would make it fairly profitable to mine and resolve the slow chain issue for the foreseeable future.


(bitmark foundation) yeah so there's 1000 BTM that's outstanding atm

Foundation balance fully restored with transaction 6987ebe301f9ecf90659c2a888a1445a51f85f6b5c491ecf6ef785066b5979bd . We need to setup an x of y address for the foundation with several people holding the keys and move all funds to it.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 12, 2015, 03:23:41 PM
I think the explorer is down

http://bitmark.co:3000/

Would be good if it could be restarted.

seems to be back now ...

Fixed it early this morning, the server had crashed.  ANN updated to remove pools which no longer exist or support BTM.  Further updates later today.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 08, 2015, 01:10:31 AM

All of my observations are public and accurate.  But dont rely on my words, check for yourself.  The metrics I mention are things that should be tracked.  You should be tracking the roadmap and the trello board and the git repository.  

Coinsolidation made a bet that there would be 'easily' 1000 daily active markers by xmas.  As things stand the only daily active marker I know of is me.  Not even mark or amarha or medic marks daily, I do.

So your free to ask me to leave, and I'll consider your words.  

If you want me to post only good news, why dont you create something or do some marking.  I've tried to be as positive as possible about this project, but I think it's intellectually honest to tell things as they are, and the community relies on each other to do so.

Initially I'd have reacted in the same manner as Danny, but I've got to agree with you. Indeed, I think your viewpoints are valid and offer an important perspective for others. It's easy to become starry eyed about projects but sometimes optimism isn't what's needed, but a cold shower is. Anyways, I hope you stick around to keep us grounded. Smiley

+1
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 04, 2015, 07:41:59 PM
Let's not do this.  Over the course of the project I have performed well, and at other times not so well.  People are free to make any observation they may, and Melvin has helped the project also.

All anybody really cares about here is making some measurable progress and people marking, then indirectly success of the currency or idea based on this.  Let us focus on that Smiley

Today is the day most people prepare to get back to work, and tomorrow is the day they dive in to another year of work.  It is no different here.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: January 04, 2015, 12:30:53 PM

As EsteNuno says, I have been a little ill since Christmas, nothing serious merely run down after last year and when I stopped I caught a cold and flu. I'm feeling much better now, and more importantly, it appears that this is one ship that cannot sail without a captain, time to get things sorted out and back up to full steam!
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: December 18, 2014, 12:00:55 AM
Well I'm a bit concerned about the development funds. What I read from your "project-bitmark" under Development Fund; is that the development team gets paid, in a sense, each time a block is mined and with transaction fees.

The tax was scrapped before the currency was created Smiley We are funded by donations, and I personally am 100% committed to the project for several years to come, regardless of funding.  Many of us are here every day, and available in slack the majority of each day, any of you are welcome to drop in at any point.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: December 17, 2014, 02:07:49 PM
http://www.cryptoshop.co/product/bitmark-2/ - Buy Bitmark with Paypal Smiley
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: December 17, 2014, 10:29:07 AM
^^ What coinsolidation said.  BTM is not a coin that should be mined (at the moment) with the intention of selling to make a profit.  Why would you at the current diff? There are plenty of other coins that will give you a better short term return.  Go join a multipool if you want short term returns.  BTM is for the long haul. Bank some now and forget them for a year or so.  Then you will hopefully get a pleasant surprise.  If things go to plan, in a year we will be wishing the diff was only 1953 Smiley  

Having said that, I do hope that some of the grand plans do come into existence sooner rather than later.  

EDIT: Question for coinsolidation.  Those 1.3 million coins that should exist but currently don't.  Are they gone forever from the final total or just delayed (assuming an increase in popularity eventually for BTM)

Thank you Johndec2.

We are making steady progress now, all components including the UI for markthis are coming together nicely.

The 1.3 million coins not yet mined are merely delayed.  Interestingly the shortfall makes space for a natural S curve of adoption, should the network start growing day after day, then blocks will roll out slightly faster than planned, giving space for coin supply to "catch up".
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: December 17, 2014, 12:40:30 AM
So, yeah seems like it's impossible to send BTM right now.
Any idea to fix this? (which doesn't include more miners)
Maybe take a look at Viacoin.

It is possible to send quickly, it is however very slow to confirm.

We have discussed difficulty algorithms at length for many weeks.  We've discussed every approach of every moderately successful currency, and many other new proposals in addition to this.

Every proposal comes at the cost of increasing supply when demand is low, or opening the chain to attack vectors, or introduce larger compounded problems which damage the economy as a whole both now and in the future.

The community still wishes to find a difficulty algorithm which does not alter the coin emission, but as yet we have not found one.  That includes AntiGravityWave, KGW, DGW, and everything else implemented in other currencies, they all keep a relatively stable block time, at the cost of lowering the production cost and maintaining a constant supply of currency regardless of demand.

Our difficulty calculation is the same as Bitcoin, if the hashrate of Bitcoin ever drops, they will experience the same, compounded over a much longer period since their diff change is far less frequent than our 720 block change.

The issue is self resolving over time, as demand raises so does price-tag due to limited supply, as does liquidity, which increases mining profitability (fallacy, you can't calculate this), which brings in miners.  Once market liquidity increases due to demand then hashing stabilizes and diff changes become less severe.  Increasing usage is key.

The alternative is to reduce production cost to match price-tag on market, which creates excess supply, and pushes market price downwards - go to beginning of sentence and repeat.   Please do check the metrics of all PoW currencies with modified diff algorithms, and see the pattern for yourself.

Without changing difficulty, we have the cost of slow transaction confirmations on a barely used network, and the benefit of a greatly reduced coin supply when demand is low. BTM Supply: 925,820 BTM, and we had planned: 2,242,480 BTM by this time - there is 1,316,660 less BTM in the world.  Hoarding and market crashing is greatly reduced whilst we work to increase usage.  When BTM is being used, it will naturally be more liquid and mined more consistently.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: December 16, 2014, 07:37:39 PM
It should sync when the next block is found. It's not really out of sync now, it just shows that it is.

As EsteNuno says, the client is synchronized, you can verify this by checking the time of the last block on the explorer and comparing to your last block received.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [GMC]▬►► GamersCoin | For Gaming and more| Exchanges ◄◄▬ on: December 15, 2014, 10:39:35 PM

I've noticed a new pool at http://pool.gamers-coin.org/ and lots of commits in github to the GMC source code, is there a new version coming soon?
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [888] [SCRYPT] OctoCoin ◦ The Power of Eight ◦ Don't Blink on: December 13, 2014, 04:19:16 PM
i like the idea of "burning" the current octo to make a new currency, however how well that will go over with outside investors is up in the air. my only question is, if the purpose for burning current octo into something new is to prevent the old devs from cashing in.. but what would prevent them from burning their octo into the new currency just like everyone else? mark?

Technically nothing, socially it depends how the burn is operated, and whether those coins/inputs can be identified.  If dev has them all in a known address on the chain, or in a known account by bittrex, they could be excluded.

This is more of a philosophical question, the same question was asked of DPR seized coins on the Bitcoin chain.  General consensus was that chain technologies were designed to be democratic and free, an alternative client could have been made that rejected all the associated inputs, and the majority could have switched to it, but that never happened.

It would also be sending out a strong message of centralization and control, "we can exclude anybody we choose, and invalidate your holdings", that's no different from the balance skimming and seizing banks we're trying to move away from.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ORA::100% POS Free & Fair distribution|issued NXT AE on: December 11, 2014, 09:56:14 PM
Maybe smart contracts can solve this issue in future, but I think for now it's better to reduce the time having a high amount in a treasury account.

Notice there is a "Minting" section under MS, coins could be added as required.  The effect on the economy is identical, the only difference is that whilst price stays the same, market capitalization instantly jumps (as you see with ripple) when a new chunk is minted.

Of course you could all proactively start looking at projects to fold in immediately, the more you have joining forces the quicker supply will deplete, and the more momentum you will gain.

Great news, very excited for you guys, so much potential.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Looking to take over a coin on: December 11, 2014, 09:41:49 PM
You should look into ORA. Dev just did the bolt, no ICO, and it's going to be a NXT monetary system coin when the MS gets launched.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=620518.msg9695651#msg9695651

+1, joining ORA would be a very wise career move.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [888] [SCRYPT] OctoCoin ◦ The Power of Eight ◦ Don't Blink on: December 11, 2014, 02:43:24 PM
Update

I have spoken further with Ritchie, his strong preference goes to having a new wallet based on a proven codebase.  Even if the specific issue is patched, OctoCoin as it stands is based on a nearly year old unmaintained pre-aux doge client called Inutoshi. Many bugs have been found, and improvements made to major code bases since then, it can be considered legacy.

This could be saved. But it will take a lot of input and thinking outside the box. The state of Octo is zero.

So the questions are as follows:

Where do you take Octo from here as far as function and branding? Without 8 apps, does the name Octo still hold value? I know some have said that 888 is lucky, China, etc. and that's a great point. But what will the coin bring to make it stand out? How can you relate that to 888? Also, what if we jack the blockchain and they come after us for their logo, etc.? I mean that's a possibility.

What do you do about a fork? I do believe we have enough asics to jack the blockchain.

What do you do about the wallet addresses with the devs premine?

I would encourage you to discuss these points further.  From an outsiders perspective you have two redeeming features: 1) Community 2) Brand (888)

Forget about coin/qt features, and concentrate on uses. Every coin needs a purpose, a reason to validate it's existence, find this, then create or modify apps and software which will allow it to be used for that purpose.  If you concede that it does not have a (non profit making) purpose, then consider moving on.

If a new OctoCoin were created, it may be feasible to organize a pre-mine and burn, where people could opt-in to the new OctoCoin by burning their balance at bittrex.  After the burn period was over, an equivalently sized pre-mine could be distributed to those who opted in; thereby replacing old coin with new, and invalidating any previous dev's holdings.

Please discuss how to take this forward, as opposed to ways to move the overriding problem to somebody else by getting the coin enabled at bittrex and dumping, that doesn't help anybody and is quite unfair.  Apportioning blame is also human nature, but we know it's not conducive to building a positive future.

Merging communities and abandoning the currency is also a possibility.  There are other active coins and some good developers around such as defaced, btcdrak, jl777, crypto_zoidberg, bitcoin devs, dogecoin devs, to name just a few.  Additionally there are projects such as Kora which may soon be merging in communities to create a large starfish community where all folded in projects receive a fair portion of a group-wide currency.  Crypto is fractured, anybody concerned with longevity or who sees crypto as having a strong future, may be best placed to consolidate their communities around or in to high(er) quality projects with proven activity.

Honestly, try to determine if this is a community of ill fortuned bag holders, or if you have active productive members who can create or sponsor software, business, apps, and respective marketing - without those things no amount of branding, good will, or coin development will help the bigger situation.

I sincerely hope this conveys as positive, and will watch and contribute thoughts or code where warranted.

Many Regards,

Mark

Clarification: if I help with code, donations after any release would always be welcomed, but don't worry about raising a bounty or escrow, I offered help to a community and a friend, I did not take on a freelance project or bounty assignment.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [888] [SCRYPT] OctoCoin ◦ The Power of Eight ◦ Don't Blink on: December 10, 2014, 03:21:00 PM
Just an update on the Bittrex situation: we have received additional details from Richie and are digging into the issue. For those concerned about OctoCoin potentially being delisted from Bittrex, here are Richie's comments:

"Don't worry about delisting... I'm more concerned about this problem because it might impact a lot more than just octo."

Basically, as some of you have already gathered, some of the transaction comments are apparently being overwritten which is how Bittrex manages payouts. They froze 888 trading and put up a "delisting" warning both to prevent additional repeats and to expedite action on our part. While we have never experienced this issue nor seen reports of any issues until now, not all services operate in the same manner. It's possible this is an issue that has been corrected in the latest Bitcoin Core source code and, if that is the case, we will ensure the fix is implemented and release our new wallet ahead of schedule. Regardless, Bittrex may want to consider a new method for verifying withdrawals to avoid this potential issue with other currencies. We will get it all straightened out.

And this has happened again.  This only happens with this wallet so at this point we request an octocoin fix Sad

It is not an user forceable scenario but to provide more details, if ALL of these conditions are met, we end up double paying out twice:  

* If we send a withdrawal request
* If it times out before returning a txid
* If the send subsequently succeeds
* If the send uses input from a previously conflicted transaction

What happens is that the send succeeds, but uses the comment from the previous conflicted transaction.  This causes us to not see a payment match and we resubmit.  There is no reason why a sendtoaddress call made with a comment is replaced with a comment from a transaction from over 6 months ago.  Please figure this out and solve this issue.  At this time, we will be shutting down the wallet for deposits/withdrawals until we can find a solution.

Thanks,
richie@bittrex

Regarding the Bittrex bug, I've been trying to track it down for several hours, and can pinpoint the following:

When a tx is added to the wallet it calls AddToSpends(hash); which in turn calls https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.9/src/wallet.cpp#L281

    // We want all the wallet transactions in range to have the same metadata as
    // the oldest (smallest nOrderPos).
    // So: find smallest nOrderPos:

copyTo->mapValue = copyFrom->mapValue; <--- this copies comments.

Which explains "There is no reason why a sendtoaddress call made with a comment is replaced with a comment from a transaction from over 6 months ago."

So, after a bit more research, octocoin appears to be based on inutoshi, an unmaintained recreation of dogecoin from earlier in the year, and it doesn't have any of the updates from the past 7-8 months, which includes nicer handling of conflicted transactions and some changes to wallet locking.

I can't pin point the exact combination of updates which resolve this at this time, but can reasonably assert that that the problem boils down to existing conflicted transactions, and the timeout.

I'm assuming both the conflicts and timeouts would be resolved by doing a send to self of the full balance, to create a single new input, which would resolve both of these issues quickly, and allow you to re-enable octocoin, or at least gracefully send everybody their coins back and delist it.

I've updated Rirchie and will liaise further to see what can be done.

Community, as far as OctoCoin is concerned, you need a developer who will either update the code to current well known good version(s) and maintain it, or simply recreate it with the same chain setup from something maintained and new (like pfennig).

All the best,

Mark
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: December 09, 2014, 08:26:26 PM
Hi fellas :-) got myself a syncing issue. Downloaded the last qt but it says no block source available?
I apologize if the explanation to the problem is already posted somewhere, not very good with wallets I'm afraid. Sad

Strange, please close and reopen once or twice, it should fix it automatically.

The problem is likely that one of the seed nodes has gone down.  The code picks one at random to try on the first time you ever connect, if you are unfortunate enough to get one which has went offline, then you get this issue.  Simply restarting should fix it.  In the meantime, thank you for making us aware, I'll check all the main seed nodes to ensure they're running.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [888] [SCRYPT] OctoCoin ◦ The Power of Eight ◦ Don't Blink on: December 09, 2014, 07:57:12 AM
...

I'm surprised we have haven't been delisted from Bittrex yet. That to me, means it's possible whoever is doing things have contacted them and asked for more time.

I did send Richie an email a month ago to say we're looking at a community takeover and to let us know before he de-lists. Whether its because of this email or because some dev types have spoken to him I don't know. I haven't got a reply either way from him yet.

I'm in a holding pattern until we can come up with a solution for people to get their coins out.  We may have a way to prevent the double pay bug, which is an ugly hack on our end, but at least we can return funds to people that want them.  

thanks
richie@bittrex

PS. I don't recall your email and i try to respond to everything Sad

I offered to help patch this, feel free to communicate the problem to me via PM, and I'll patch the octocoin daemon to resolve the double pay bug.  It's an interim step, but at least it resolves the current status quo until something else is forthcoming.

Regards,

Mark
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