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41  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to resolve gambling related wallet issues on: June 12, 2024, 02:24:01 PM
Finding ways to resolve such issues would be a very difficult one for the customer because in this case you are not dealing with just one company or related company but two entirely different company and we all know how these online support system works with all that annoying delays and with repeated programmed response support system.

In the case of this nature and being that I haven't had such experience, I think common will demand the customer to write a report to both companies and if the gambling site could send a message to the exchange maybe they will honor it much swiftly than you the customer alone. But just like Oshosondy said, if it's an exchange whose ToS prohibits such deposit then you just have to painfully forget about it.

The only exchange that I knew that was doing that is Coinbase. There may be more exchanges that do that but I do not know them. I have used over 10 exchanges and non of them are against gambling.

What I can say is that you should read the ToS of every gambling site you want to open an account with. If the gambling site will not receive coins from gambling sites, it would be stated on the exchange ToS.

Is Coinbase still doing that?
Hello @Oshosondy please check your second statement to correct an error there... I guess you had meant to say exchanges and not gambling sites. Grin
42  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading or gambling? on: June 12, 2024, 09:28:55 AM
Trading or gambling?

This is a very relevant topic that I have long wanted to discuss with users. Let's compare trading and gambling in all respects. I believe that it is more difficult to win at gambling than at trading or investing. Perhaps you think differently? Then explain why. By gambling I mean primarily those games in which not only luck is important. That is, we will not consider roulette, dice and slot machines. From gambling we will only take sports betting and some card games such as poker and blackjack.
 Why do I think you have a better chance of getting rich in trading than in sports betting or card games for money? There are many reasons for this.
1. In trading there is a stop loss, there is averaging, there is a hold, that is, the ability to hold a position for a long time until it becomes profitable. There is none of this in gambling.
Trading is in all aspects very different from gambling, and we all know that no person trades for fun and entertainment as it is with gambling. Now, in that aspect of stop loss in trading what I think appear to be similar to it in gambling is what we call cash out. A gambler can decide to cash out his game in the process to take available profit shown or a part of his stake amount made available for cash if he feels his bet is not going favourable.

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2. In trading, if you want, you can do without professional intermediaries. There are peer-to-peer transactions. You can do without exchanges. In gambling, it is almost impossible to do without casinos and bookmakers.
  Not really true though, we have what we call street gambling where two persons or more could just agree and come together to gamble mostly on cards games. Only what I don't like about this type of gambling is that there's no moderator to meditate against possible disagreement which mainly leads to quarells and fights.

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3. Trading includes derivatives and leverage trading. Of course, these are tools that require a lot of knowledge, but nevertheless it is possible. Derivatives allow you to hedge a position. In gambling there is no concept of position, there is only a bet.
The cash out concept I raised above could still come in for position here as it is with trading. A gambler can before betting on any games especially in sports decides to cash out in his parlay bet.

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4. In gambling, you must have the highest quality of prediction. In trading this is not necessary, because there are strategies such as rebalancing. If your bitcoins double in price, sell half. If you fall by 2 times, buy some of the stablecoins.
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What advantages do you think sports betting and card games have over trading and investing?
In all, the best similarity shared between gambling and trading that sits well is just risk.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 🏆 10 000 USDT Weekly Wager Tournament on Airbet! 🏆 on: June 12, 2024, 08:56:28 AM
Lovely, I think this is one of those tournaments alot forum members will never want to miss out from the packages that is involved as the rewards are interesting considering the minimum amount for bet.

As a part of your T&C for intended participants to the tournament which I stumbled on and have quoted below, I will like to be cleared on this and also for the benefit of others per say. Based on this very T&C does it mean that persons that are residents in countries where your operation isn't reached/permitted are not eligible to partake in the tournament and therefore shouldn't bother using VPN as they might be disqualified eventually based on their ineligibility as regarding this area of residence/address in the T&C??
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44  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Reasons why Bitcoin dey exceptional and good to use. on: June 11, 2024, 10:30:03 PM
Op I just like the way you just arrange everything with pure explanation wey no carry plenty gramma cos in that way newbies for the Naija board go easily grab knowledge of the difference wey bitcoin possess when we compare am to fiat. Among all those exceptionality me nah the privacy through decentralization, and unto say you be in charge of your money  without the middle man getting involved na those features among other things na make me just like bitcoin.

 Man no fit just get privacy and financial freedom with fiat, government no fit alow you get am at all. Just imagine the way them use hoard the naira last year wey people come the experience unnecessary scarcity of the naira. Na the problem of fiat be that wey bitcoin come as alternative.
45  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Africa Football Discussion || Current Topic: Worldcup qualifiers - CAF. on: June 11, 2024, 09:44:00 PM
No way, if we can't beat our fellow Africa country is it one of those European countries that we can beat? To me is better not to qualify for the World Cup than going there to disgrace ourselves.
Are fellow African teams really that weak to warrant this expression?
when I see people analyze football in this perspective I just ponder if they really watch African football international games objectively or they just being sentimental about it because they watch a lot of European football lately.

That's by the way.
To be honest am like every other fan no happy with the Nigerian team performance and seeing that they may not go for next world cup breaks my heart. Same Zimbabwe team which Nigeria struggled to get a draw with was same team South Africa trashed 3:1. And to say the least, Nigeria is with just 3 points in their group  occupying the fifth position when teams like Benin Republic, Rwanda, and Lesotho are  occupying the top followed by  South Africa. It appears the underdogs are taking the center stage which wasn't expected.

46  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Understand Math? on: June 11, 2024, 08:18:54 PM
About the lottery quote I don't agree!  Maybe we would have gotten a clear position about this quote if Albert Einstein had given himself to a little gamble
 Grin
If been good at mathematics  makes a a great profitable gambler then probably a lot of mathematicians who are good at mathematics to a fault would have made a fortune from it.  I have heard and read stories of people hitting the jackpot or having huge win without having to know maths but it's that they were just lucky to have made those wins.

Having good skills in games like poker and blackjack is great as it get to reduce your chances of  high loses especially if you gamble responsibly without having abusing your strategy, but building on it as a way to constantly win the table is absurd to my view.
47  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How were you able to handle a losing streak up to 5 times and above? on: June 11, 2024, 06:46:17 PM
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Lesson so far, the need to manage risk is highly recommendable, stick to plans and never go above your plan, all this while my profits have been much higher than my loses, but a single week took the majority of those profits, Therefore, even though you are these profitable person in gambling just as I have been all this while, there may be a rainy day for you and what would protect you are these strategies in place.

Have you had this experience before, and how were you able to manage/handle it?
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Firstly, I haven't had this experience in this particular way of singling each game and betting on them up to five different games. I have staked on single game but not more than two at a time. Five for me is much.

No matter the current form of a team involved or the odd size no bet prediction is sure, and that's why we have to take calculated risk with every bet not to go above the usual standard you have for long using which has been profitable with less losses incurred. Though losing is  an unavoidable aspect of gambling which we all must experience, we must in that light learn to manage our losses not to overwhelm our balance.
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49  Economy / Speculation / Re: The BTC stability on: June 10, 2024, 08:08:21 PM
I think BTC is very volatile to use it as a value reserve of a big company or a country. But it is awesome seeing its capability to speculate and invest in long term. Today I watched a video on YouTube a rich man saing that BTC is 80% of his patrimony. I think it can be dangerous. And all of you? Also are all in?
Why you contradicting yourself? You just said it's awesome seeing the capabilities of bitcoin (of which I believe you must have done your research and known about such capabilities before going on to say that) and the same you is trun around to say it's dangerous for all of us investing in it. Maybe you could have cleared the air by what danger you're implying.

Well, for me  as a bitcoin believer, i can always advocate for every investor to invest the amount he can afford to lose and this amounts is subjective to every individual financial capacity. For those that have an understanding of how the profit system of bitcoin works despite the volatility, their focus is  usually long term.
50  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ALLinBETS Casino Gaming Platform on: June 10, 2024, 07:49:36 PM
about your last question... probably we are still missing a revolutionary decentralized casino or gambling sites that are fully integrated with blockchain.
Probably in the future we will more decentralized casino, but actually I can't see any real innovation on that field.
We are not unaware about how these things work... Yes, every new casino will want to claim the status of a web3 decentralized casino to attract users because they understand that everything decentralization is what bitcoin adoptors would be on the lookout for.

But frankly speaking, I am in doubt if there will be more decentralized casinos or those claiming to be decentralized right now will continue bearing that status in the future with the government pressure on these casinos through operational license which I don't think any casino will want to lose its license. It's just a matter of time they start prompting for KYC for verification of customers just as every other casinos.
51  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Africa Football Discussion || Current Topic: Worldcup qualifiers - CAF. on: June 10, 2024, 05:51:01 PM
Today Benin who are sitting at number 3 of the group will host the Super Eagles who haven't won a single game and I think we have to win this game if not we have to go back to our calculator to start counting points of other countries to see how we can qualify.
The first half ending with a score of one goal to Nigeria and two to Benin republic who were the team trailing. Nigeria have been playing and moving the ball around but we are not really showing our Attacking prowess, Our coach does not look technically sound, because what is his reason today for not starting Boniface? We finished second in the AFCON but we are struggling to qualify for the world cup, I blame the Nigerian football federation for send Poseiro away. Raphael Onyedika and Iwobi have been the best players from the first half. In the second half we need the coach to make some tactical changes because we need to start trying to get our equalizer from the moment the second half whistle is blown.
I am not confident about this new coach, his team formation dose not look matured, his ability to tactically coordinate his players is poor and his selection of players is not favorable.
In this match, I think he underrated the opponent that is why he set up with such formation and now that we have started losing 2-1 after we take the lead in the 27th minute, we are very poor defensively and we have conceded two goals just within 10 minutes.

Did you guys think we will qualify to the World Cup? Because we have drew all the three matches we have played so far, and we are about to lose or draw this one, and all the matches are winnable matches to a team like Nigeria.
This game there's a lot of lack of urgency and intensity on the side of the Nigeria players, I mean was one of those fans that welcomed the appointment of Coach Finidi George but I seem to get disappointed with the results Nigeria team is getting in this world qualifier games drawing all the matches and currently struggling with Benin Republic which was supposed to be an added points with ease.There's no coordinated tactics, no ideas to effectively change results through creative substitutions and it's as though the job is too big for the Coach to handle. And this doesn't leave the players from the problem right now.
52  Economy / Speculation / Re: plant a tree, when bitcoin price increase new record $1k on: June 10, 2024, 05:26:11 PM
The importance of trees existing within our environment can't be overemphasized as the benefits to humanity can't be quantified. The level of hot weather being experienced in Urban areas are as a result of diminishing trees with rather tall buildings occupying almost every land space.

For those who do travel ones in a while to the rural areas must have had a refreshing difference between the air in urban areas and that of the rural areas, and this is as a result of the existence of many trees and other green plants in existence there.

The initiative of using a new bitcoin ATH in relation to planting trees is an initiative coming at the right time.  As wee live in an era where every individual wants to plant and own a house but not a tree. But at least if you don't have a space of yours to plant a tree then try not to add to the practices which  causes the buildup to the increasing global warming ravishing the world today.
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55  Economy / Economics / Re: The government cares for no one but waits for you to get rich for taxes paying. on: June 09, 2024, 11:21:00 PM
I do not know about other countries but in my country, politics has compromised the economy growth with equity.
As the transition of power evolves, the value of the citizens are depreciated in the eyes of the governments which now optimizes citizens to rely living in fortitude of bravery and accepting challenges so that we don't give it all up hopelessly.

We fight it out by ourselves like there is no government to provide us with some basic amenities and quite better to be called "a daylight robbery or extortion" that once individuals has struggled to make productive differences from the economy slavery chain of the government, you would be will assigned to revenue on taxations.

My question.... If the government could find utilizations on the citizens for taxations on generating funds for infrastructures and other government services , why don't they invest on the citizens or support those with the potentials to productiveness knowing quite well that once they makes success, they would be demanded to also contributed to the growing structures of the economy?
What the government knows is that if a successful individual refuses to comply with the government order, they will get you frustrated tending to fold your productiveness qualities or you go to jail.
Grew up to understand that tax payment is an obligation on the part of the citizens to their country's government and not a thing of an option or choice in as much as you're due for it, be it a salary earner or business.

It's a sad reality that the performance of the government to their social, economic and political responsibility is lacking in this part of our world but we still have to pay our tax as it's the only way we can continue to have a right to demand and  hold them accountable. A man that doesn't pay tax doesn't have a right to demand for social amenities only when you're a tax payer that's when you can boldly criticize and drag the government for certain failures and mismanagement.

Now make i enter broken cause wetin I wan talk na about the worwor side of us.  Me notice am say the main reason why many of we Nigerians no dey fit stand up to drag the government for accountability be say  we no sabi pay tax, plenty people the hide from paying, so them mouth no fit strong in terms of demanding responsibility and accountability from the government, and the few wey the pay no go fit fight this fight fully.

Although I know say e get certain indirect taxes we dey pay for certain services we use but apart from those the direct ones we dey like run from am so e go hard make tuna fully work well as we dey think am.
Check oyinbo people and their tax life nah


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So, why don't they tax the poor who barely struggle to eat?:Simply because they found those set of citizens useless and the prison will be occupied if charge them for not paying taxes since there are more Poor people than the rich in the society.
Just to correct a statement, the poor people in society are not useless. I learnt that somewhere.
56  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Team strength as the main predictor. on: June 09, 2024, 02:06:42 PM
There are different factors to compare among teams to know or feel convince of which team is with a better chance of winning a match. Just as previous comments above have explained many of them which are very true in considering on getting a bet win especially in football, but I just want to add that the fan base too really support in boasting the moral of a team to spur on in winning a match. Although this factor is one spontaneous factor that just suddenly happens while the game is going on. The high spirit of chants from the fans does also have a positive impact in how the players moral and mentality about the game gets on.

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Sports betting is not about a particular team it is all about multiple teams. While betting you will need to analyze the performance of multiple teams, multiple players, and their forms. Betting on sports was never a particular team in perspective, it is all about betting on every team after due analysis and understanding of their performance through data of their past performance. That does include the performance of players and how an individual of any team led to their win. Do your due diligence research and then come up with a good topic.
In sports betting you it's not compulsory you bet on multiple teams you can chose to bet on a single team, it's only when you want to make a parlay bet that you have to choose to do analysis on multiple teams. Furthermore, Op is asking about the factors to check out for as a heads-up in determining which team will win a particular match before the match kicks off and not when the game is already ended and results gotten.
57  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you lost the money that you where supposed to withdraw from online casino? on: June 09, 2024, 01:28:07 PM
My little experience today, earlier today I was gambling with one of these online gamble site then I was very lucky that I won so much money that's up to $500 with an initial amount that's it not up to $15. However I didn't win the whole money on one stake, for instance I won $200, I only withdraw $150 and gamble with the remaining $50. So that was how I was doing untill I won a lot but didn't withdraw them at once, I withdraw up to 4 times from my online gamble account and the fifth withdrawal wasn't successful and they said I have to wait for 24 hours before I can continue to withdraw the money, so while waiting I gamble and lost the money I was supposed to withdraw, so have you experienced a thing like this from any online gamble site that make you to lose the money that you wanted to withdraw?
Can't think of when I made such mistake to lose money this way. But I have  read about gamblers' complains on similar matter but what I don't agree with after reading, just as yours now, is that of trying to pushing the blame onto the casino or sport betting site as the reason to your loss.

The condition was just to wait after 24hrs to get back access to continue withdrawal, it never compelled you to gamble with the money in your account. It's an obvious testament that you're probably not sticking to your bankroll or you don't have any. Set a bankroll, know your limit and you won't have to deal with this experience next time Grin
58  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2024-06-07 UTC Pushup Report Table on: June 09, 2024, 12:55:56 PM

Wow, 44 pushers not so bad yet not so impressive as it's an average number to  100 in relation to an expected 100k bitcoin price which is the motivation behind the trend.  In the very beginning of this thread I think, interested number of persons were much than that, so what happened now? Could it be due to a lack of time and energy to persistently carryout their push-ups as regular and keeping up with their records...

Just an observation.

Nice observation, nevertheless keeping up with the push ups challenge is not for everybody, it is beyond approaching it because it is what every one is doing or seem to be talking about ,  it takes one personal conviction and decision to keep up with the push ups challenge as regards to it's benefits, as Bitcoin will be hitting $100k.
Keeping up with the push ups challenge is the same as when investing in Bitcoin and keeping up with your investment until possibly achieving your investment goal and objectives and this has to do with your personal conviction and believe where those that doesn't have such personal conviction and believe might end up not achieving their investment goal and objectives, probably they entered the market because it was what every one seems to be doing or talk. It take consistent courage, believe, conviction towards achieving goals and objectives even in life generally.

Below is my newest record

100k,Tmoonz,97,11192,2024-06-08
Well, there's no way we can prove that or use  this pushup challenge as yardstick to know those bitcoiners that are truly determined and convicted towards achieving their bitcoin investment goals through the use of the DCA strategy. Secondly, there's a wide gap of difference between the challenges you'll be facing as long term bitcoin investor  using the DCA strategy and that of keeping up with your daily pushups routine. A lot of factors to look at though, but I feel it's all personal, both for those who stop on the way or still continuing, which may definitely not have anything to do with how they deal with their bitcoin investment.

To say the least, am fascinated with your new record... Keep up the good work.
59  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2024-06-07 UTC Pushup Report Table on: June 08, 2024, 09:59:40 PM
╭───────────────────┬────────┬───────────┬────────────┬──────────┬─────────┬──────────────╮
│ Username          │   Days │   Pushups │ Latest     │   PU/day │ % of    │    Days till │
│                   │     In │      Done │ Report     │          │ Total   │   next digit │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ 7juju             │     77 │     11550 │ 2024-05-01 │   150    │ 5.83%   │          590 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ proty             │      4 │       504 │ 2024-05-12 │   126    │ 0.25%   │            4 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Obari             │      3 │       115 │ 2024-05-07 │    38.33 │ 0.06%   │           24 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Makus             │      5 │       495 │ 2024-05-30 │    99    │ 0.25%   │            6 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Tmoonz            │     91 │     10192 │ 2024-06-02 │   112    │ 5.14%   │          802 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Gallar            │     55 │      8289 │ 2024-05-19 │   150.71 │ 4.18%   │           12 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Bravut            │      4 │       285 │ 2024-04-20 │    71.25 │ 0.14%   │           11 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Obim34            │     85 │      5663 │ 2024-06-05 │    66.62 │ 2.86%   │           66 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Obulis            │     17 │      1550 │ 2024-06-06 │    91.18 │ 0.78%   │           93 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Kwarkam           │     52 │     10560 │ 2024-04-19 │   203.08 │ 5.33%   │          441 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ I_Anime           │     77 │      5662 │ 2024-05-18 │    73.53 │ 2.86%   │           59 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ OgNasty           │    126 │     13000 │ 2024-06-06 │   103.17 │ 6.56%   │          844 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Antonil           │     54 │      2102 │ 2024-05-04 │    38.93 │ 1.06%   │          203 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Dracoco           │      2 │        90 │ 2024-05-04 │    45    │ 0.05%   │            1 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Kelward           │     18 │       814 │ 2024-06-06 │    45.22 │ 0.41%   │            5 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ wxa7115           │     11 │      1000 │ 2024-06-03 │    90.91 │ 0.50%   │           99 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Troytech          │     45 │      4605 │ 2024-05-04 │   102.33 │ 2.32%   │           53 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Ambatman          │     19 │      2115 │ 2024-04-30 │   111.32 │ 1.07%   │           71 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Tungbulu          │     12 │      1412 │ 2024-04-28 │   117.67 │ 0.71%   │           73 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Notalony          │     27 │      2473 │ 2024-05-25 │    91.59 │ 1.25%   │           83 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Jewan420          │     13 │       940 │ 2024-05-22 │    72.31 │ 0.47%   │            1 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ laijsica          │     86 │      3268 │ 2024-05-21 │    38    │ 1.65%   │          178 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Zackz5000         │     79 │      9672 │ 2024-05-27 │   122.43 │ 4.88%   │            3 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ Ricardo11         │     67 │      3683 │ 2024-05-09 │    54.97 │ 1.86%   │          115 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ SickDayIn         │      3 │        73 │ 2024-05-21 │    24.33 │ 0.04%   │            2 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ AmaGold70         │     12 │      1000 │ 2024-05-14 │    83.33 │ 0.50%   │          109 │
├───────────────────┼────────┼───────────┼────────────┼──────────┼─────────┼──────────────┤
│ CoinMin3r         │     13 │       680 │ 2024-06-07 │    52.31 │ 0.34%   │            7 │
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│ JayJuanGee        │    123 │     24425 │ 2024-06-06 │   198.58 │ 12.33%  │          381 │
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│ teamsherry        │     52 │      6105 │ 2024-05-31 │   117.4  │ 3.08%   │           34 │
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│ Bd officer        │     71 │      5704 │ 2024-06-06 │    80.34 │ 2.88%   │           54 │
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│ Briankimp1        │     19 │       310 │ 2024-06-06 │    16.32 │ 0.16%   │           43 │
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│ Cossyblack        │     47 │      7995 │ 2024-06-07 │   170.11 │ 4.04%   │           12 │
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│ Sotelorene        │      6 │      1200 │ 2024-05-29 │   200    │ 0.61%   │           44 │
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│ adultcrypto       │     21 │      1575 │ 2024-05-02 │    75    │ 0.79%   │          113 │
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│ Judith87403       │     50 │       800 │ 2024-04-22 │    16    │ 0.40%   │           13 │
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│ hardyrobust       │      1 │        70 │ 2024-05-07 │    70    │ 0.04%   │            1 │
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│ Churchillvv       │    118 │     12130 │ 2024-06-05 │   102.8  │ 6.12%   │          855 │
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│ promise444c5      │     57 │      2730 │ 2024-06-06 │    47.89 │ 1.38%   │          152 │
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│ Cityhunter34      │     25 │      3500 │ 2024-05-25 │   140    │ 1.77%   │           47 │
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│ Justinapeter      │     14 │       910 │ 2024-06-06 │    65    │ 0.46%   │            2 │
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│ Uhwuchukwu53      │      7 │       525 │ 2024-06-07 │    75    │ 0.26%   │            7 │
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│ DirtyKeyboard     │    117 │     11828 │ 2024-06-06 │   101.09 │ 5.97%   │          873 │
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│ Mayor of Ogba     │     95 │     12626 │ 2024-06-06 │   132.91 │ 6.37%   │          658 │
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│ smilevictorobinna │     39 │      3900 │ 2024-05-29 │   100    │ 1.97%   │           61 │
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╭───────────┬───────────┬───────────────┬──────────────┬──────────────────┬───────────┬─────────────╮
│      Team │   Pushers │       Pushups │         Days │   Pushups/Pusher │   Pushups │   Days till │
│   Pushups │           │    per Pusher │   per Pusher │          per Day │   per Day │     200_000 │
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│    198125 │        44 │       4502.84 │      43.6136 │          103.244 │   4542.73 │    0.412747 │
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Report Format: '100k,User Name,DaysPushing,TotalPushupsDone,Date(Optional)' See the OP for more details

Wow, 44 pushers not so bad yet not so impressive as it's an average number to  100 in relation to an expected 100k bitcoin price which is the motivation behind the trend.  In the very beginning of this thread I think, interested number of persons were much than that, so what happened now? Could it be due to a lack of time and energy to persistently carryout their push-ups as regular and keeping up with their records...

Just an observation.
60  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ on: June 08, 2024, 08:25:44 PM
Manchester City is one of the better teams. Here we go, let Manchester City continue their dominance in the English Premier League. Manchester City fans trust is on another level.  Before the end of this season, Manchester City are already leading the pack. So that he can win the English Premier League again next year and move forward successfully with his team.
Manchester City has shown us an extraordinary team mentality by being able to win the English league in a row, winning the English league is of course a difficult thing to remember the league that has been very competitive so far, but Manchester City actually showed that if indeed winning the English league is not too difficult for them, this season Guardiola is of course the first coach to be able to get 4 trophies in a row in the English league,  4 Trophies in 4 seasons of the Premier League certainly shows that if he is indeed a great coach and also with financial support and a qualified squad, of course it is very likely that he will be able to continue his achievements next season.

Manchester City will of course be back as title contenders next season, so it'Squite natural that their fans are optimistic that they can get their 5th consecutive trophy next season, but to be honest, I personally have a different view for next season because Arsenal are also starting to experience a resurgence so we can't underestimate them anymore for now, seeing how many Arsenal have released players this season, of course they are now starting to try to improve the squad and of course with the target of bringing in many star players to strengthen their main line-up next season.

If we look at the recent seasons, we will see that Manchester City actually does not stay consistent throughout the whole season. At certain times of the season, they make some mistakes. The problem is there is no one to actually capitalize on that mistake. Arsenal is busy fixing their own problems. Because Arsenal also has to think about their inconsistency. In almost the last three seasons including this one, arsenal has not been consistent at crucial times of the season. That’s why they have not been able to win the English Premier League title in the last three years. They had more than enough chances to beat Manchester City for the English Premier League title.

I really want to say that Arsenal will be better prepared in the next season. But that’s what I have been saying in the last two seasons as well. For me, it is hard to trust them to win the English Premier League title.
That's just it, lack of consistency have really cost Arsenal the title in the past two seasons because they are always leading and doing well from the very beginning, but once the reverse fixture have started, that is when they will start showing inconsistency, and Manchester city are always locking close to capitalize on any mistake made by them.

As rightly said, Manchester city team in the immediate past season, were not as good as they were in their treble winning season, but what I believe that made them win this year title was the lack of consistency shown by arsenal during the closing stage of the season, and the high level of consistency shown by this Manchester city side from the last 15 games of the season, so the premier league is all about consistency, the most consistent team, always go home with the trophy.
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