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June 15, 2024, 12:55:49 PM
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Yes that is just it. If you gamble with more money and gambling is the one controlling you and you get addicted to gambling, that is no more fun at all.

What is said to be gambling for fun is when you use 1% of your weekly income to gamble weekly and not gamble more than that. Although I went up to 5% at times and I do not feel it at all. But I notice that I do not like to lose at all but if I lose, I am not depressed or be thinking about the money.

Yes it depends on what a gambler consider to be fun because no body will spend all his money and still called it for when regret will be the order of the day mostly when one happened to have nothing left and the money most time is kept for project or some more serious than gambling especially when it has to do with live threatening issue such situations can never be fun but addiction.

I doubt those who claim to console themselves with the word fun when they are engoff with sorrow if lossing and trying to make it hidden by calling it fun.
Anything that goes beyond your normal plan if spending in the gambling system is n longer fun but addiction.

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June 15, 2024, 12:59:26 PM
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Finances and income of each gambler will of course always be different and basically when gamblers have decided to have fun by gambling, they will indirectly understand the risks and receive certain amount of money prepared in case they have to lose.
Moreover, gamblers who only come to have fun definitely have limit on the amount of money set according to their income, it could be said that they will not gamble by spending more than 50% of their earnings on monthly or weekly basis.
But basically everything can be easily recognized from their daily lives or their social attitudesattitudes, gambler who only plays or bets for fun will definitely have comfortable, peaceful life and not be filled with financial problems.
But there are also some gamblers who claim that they are not addicted, they can be responsible and it is even easy to keep themselves in control, but in reality they say all that just to avoid bad views.
People like this usually get various problems from gambling but they fail to solve them, they are even unable to overcome themselves in resisting the desires and bad habits that they often do.

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June 15, 2024, 01:00:45 PM
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Whatever the amount is, your purpose to gamble may vary and we all have our own personal reason why we gamble.
Losing is not fun actually but if you have a lot of extra money, then why not? beside gambling is made for entertainment purposes unfortunately some gamblers gamble just to meet their needs and with a hope of making big money. You have to understand your reason for gambling and know that whatever your decision is, there's always risk in gambling.

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June 15, 2024, 02:26:50 PM
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When you gamble what you can't afford to lose, you become an irresponsible gambler. It's recommended to only gamble what you can afford to lose because there are many negative effects of gambling that can spiral out of control. The closest possibility is that you'll become an addict, and once you become addicted, your life can change from good to bad. If we want to live a happy life, we should prevent this from happening, as addiction is a serious problem that isn't easily cured. The key to prevention is to never gamble more than you can afford to lose.

We might need to change our mindset. Think about your reasons for gambling. If it's to get rich, then there's a 99% chance you won't achieve that. It's better to gamble for fun and keep it that way, so you'll still have fun even if you lose most of the time.

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June 15, 2024, 02:37:11 PM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun). It means that both those that say they aren't gambling for fun sometimes gamble for fun, mostly when they risk an amount they can afford to lose. The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun. However, a gambler might say he will gamble for fun and still end up not gambling for fun when he starts gambling. One can know a responsible gambler if he starts gambling.

I will only say that upon any of our actions and decisions on gambling, they should be on what we can afford for and not what we are going o see and be annoyed for taking such a decision, sometimes it's not all about the amount involved, its mostly about the intentions we have towards the reason why we are gambling, if your mindset was to earn from gambling and you only loose less than a dollar, you will still fells disappointed because you couldn't achieve your target while if you're gambling for fun and loses over $10, you won't mind, but instead take it as part of having fun because you can afford to lose that said amount.


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June 15, 2024, 03:48:28 PM
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Wait, how you can know if someone who spend 10% of his monthly income for gambling will not sad and someone who spend 50% of his monthly income for gambling would feel sad? Huh

Not all people are same like you, if you didn't feel sad for losing 10%, it doesn't mean people will not be sad too when they lose 10%. At the same time some people can be a high risk taker that don't mind to lose 50%.

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June 15, 2024, 04:49:53 PM
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It is rather a relative term, when we talk about money which one is willing to lose or whether we are responsible gamblers or not.
I have always used a mental/imaginary technique anyone to know whether the are being responsible with their money or not while gambling. I tell them to imagine having that money they want to deposit into the casino on their hands and use a little bit of gasoline and a match to burn it completely into ashes. How would they feel?

That is more than enough to know whether one is being responsible with one's gambling budget or not.
If the person after such an imaginary escenario feels nothing for that burnt money, then that amount is okey to be deposited and wagered with, otherwise, they need to adjust their gambling budget and deposit. It is as simple as that. Does not takes much thought.

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Whatever the amount is, your purpose to gamble may vary and we all have our own personal reason why we gamble.


I believe most of the gambler have 1 common reason why they gamble and this is to get profit through playing since no one purposely want to play just to lose their money and call it an entertainment.

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Losing is not fun actually but if you have a lot of extra money, then why not? beside gambling is made for entertainment purposes unfortunately some gamblers gamble just to meet their needs and with a hope of making big money. You have to understand your reason for gambling and know that whatever your decision is, there's always risk in gambling.

Yeah, No one will be happy if they lose money regardless the amount or their bankroll size since it’s still a loss. I personally use a very small amount when gambling that almost doesn’t affect my finances if I lose it but still I feel remorse whenever I lose since that’s still part of my money before.

The entertainment will come when you are winning on the game.

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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun). It means that both those that say they aren't gambling for fun sometimes gamble for fun, mostly when they risk an amount they can afford to lose. The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun. However, a gambler might say he will gamble for fun and still end up not gambling for fun when he starts gambling. One can know a responsible gambler if he starts gambling.
We all started with this, or majority of us if not all, for sure. Who doesn't want a chance to win an "easy" money out of luck, right? However, chances doesn't have guarantee of things. You could bet any amount that you want but be sure to be prepared of the consequences. If you cannot endure losing that amount then you are already commiting a mistake. No matter how good you think of yourself or how huge your chance of winning, never be too confident of your bet. Always prioritize managing the risk on both actual bet and betting outcome. Only a few are gambling for fun and indeed, those are people who are losing an amount too far from their risk treshold. The analogy is right; losing 10% is something you could laugh about but if it is more than half then you'd be followed by frustration and that also means stress and bigger loss. Nothing's entertaining with that.

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June 15, 2024, 05:37:46 PM
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Only rich people can have the fun. If you are a guy who does a 9-to-5 job and gambles by claiming that it is for fun, then I don’t think it can be actually called "fun."Fun means recreation means done when you want to do time pass. Hence, as I am not rich, I don’t gamble for fun. I gamble in order to earn some extra bucks. If I lose it, then I try my best to gamble and recover it. Only the people who earn millions gamble in poker and roulette to pass the time with friends. The majority of the people gamble to fight for money.

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The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun.
You are right. There is only fun in gambling when the gambler plays with an amount he can afford to lose, because since it's money he isn't going to need later, he won't miss it a lot. By money you can afford to lose, we usually mean it's replaceable money without much difficult, effort or uncertain. That means if the gambler loses that sum, he shouldn't bother at all, since he is going to recover that money later through another sources of income, so it's a sustainable way to gamble.

Also, just to say to be gambling for fun doesn't mean anything at all... In fact, actions speak louder than words, so we should pay attention to how people act, instead of only listening to their words, which in many cases can be just empty words, empty promises or lies! Addicted gamblers are masters on that matter and as we can see, their words don't find solidity on their actions.

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June 15, 2024, 05:58:50 PM
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Don't be a degen, just have a little fun.

I always start out wanting to have some fun and things precipitate quite fast as I cannot stand the lost games that much so I immediately start to feel the heat and start raising the bet,the rest is history and I am losing quite a lot of money.The good thing is lately I have won great in the last days and withdrawn them all,I thing not being a degen is very difficult nowadays if you are gambling daily,I will quit forever the only time when I will lose everything and never hit a decent win.

People playing for fun say that as an excuse as no one gambles for fun if they keep doing it repeatedly,keep playing every day then it is difficult to call it a day and quit,the rage is there,the only people who gamble for fun are those who do not need money and sometimes,not often,only these people can not feel any rage if they happen to lose a bit.

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Whatever the amount is, your purpose to gamble may vary and we all have our own personal reason why we gamble.
The purpose for gambling should not be two as gambling should just be for fun. Another reason people gamble is to earn money but which is very wrong.

Losing is not fun actually but if you have a lot of extra money, then why not?
If you have a lot of money, it is better you channel it into something else that can be profitable and not use more amount of money to gamble.

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June 15, 2024, 08:47:20 PM
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Yes that is just it. If you gamble with more money and gambling is the one controlling you and you get addicted to gambling, that is no more fun at all.

What is said to be gambling for fun is when you use 1% of your weekly income to gamble weekly and not gamble more than that. Although I went up to 5% at times and I do not feel it at all. But I notice that I do not like to lose at all but if I lose, I am not depressed or be thinking about the money.
As long as you decide to gamble an amount that you are comfortable of losing, then even if you lose it all, there’s still fun while you’re gambling. But if you end up chasing your losses and go bet all the money you have without minding your limits, I’m sure the result will no longer be fun anymore. You’ll only get fun when you end up winning big again and recover all your previous losses.

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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun). It means that both those that say they aren't gambling for fun sometimes gamble for fun, mostly when they risk an amount they can afford to lose. The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun. However, a gambler might say he will gamble for fun and still end up not gambling for fun when he starts gambling. One can know a responsible gambler if he starts gambling.
Your opinion somehow sounds contradicting, but moreover, from my own understanding and perspective of what fun is when it comes to gambling is when an individual gambles with a significant amount of money he/she could afford to lose without thinking twice, and as such I don't see $1000 of a $10,000 savings to be a small money, as thats a whole 10% we are talking about here, of which any gambler who loses a whole 10% of his/her fun will always probably not be happy for such lost. But if such individual gambles with $10 and lost it, he won't even feel it. Since it is a significant amount. Hence, fun when it comes to gambling is when a gambler can confidently lose a certain amount without regret, and this amount varies from one gambler to another.

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June 15, 2024, 09:13:07 PM
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In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun).

No, that doesn't mean they gambled for fun, $1,000 from $10,000 is 10% of it and you don't gamble away 10% of the total money you have, and if it's from your savings, it's a big no because savings aren't supposed to be used in gambling.

I can't imagine working for years or months to accumulate a sum of money that I can use for some emergency in the future and then spending 10% or more of it on gambling only because I want to have some fun. I don't see that being fun at all.

Having fun is when you are earning $1,000 a month and spending maybe $40 to $50 on your gambling activities because you are gambling just for fun and you wouldn't care even if the money is lost because it's not a significant amount and you can afford to lose it.

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June 15, 2024, 10:44:05 PM
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I am beginning to think that the only time a gambler gambles for fun is only when he gambles with what he can afford to lose. In this case, a gambler has $10,000 as his savings, and he gambles with $1000 down, he or she won't feel sad when they lose it (it means they gambled for fun). But if a gambler who has the same $10,000 gambles for above $5,000, and he loses all of them, the gambler won't be happy about his actions, and it might result in chasing of losses (which means he didn't gamble for fun). It means that both those that say they aren't gambling for fun sometimes gamble for fun, mostly when they risk an amount they can afford to lose. The actual time you gamble for fun is when you risk what you can afford to lose and not when you say you want to gamble for fun. However, a gambler might say he will gamble for fun and still end up not gambling for fun when he starts gambling. One can know a responsible gambler if he starts gambling.
Why will any gambler gamble with his savings? I am not surprised at all because people actually do it. Whether they are gambling with a small percentage of their savings or not, savings should be invested into something more realistic and not gambling.
Sometimes I wonder how committed people can be towards gambling. A person receives his wage and he first allocates a percentage of his income to gambling, isn't their commitment to gambling a thing of concern? A gambler who consistently allocates money to gambling is addicted and is working hard to satisfy it. Whether he gambles with what he can afford to lose or not, the fact remains that he is able to quench his urge to gamble.

Gambling with amounts you can afford to lose does not make you free from gambling related issues. While you are gambling with what you can afford to lose, you might be neglecting your duty and responsibility to your job, spouse, loved ones and even your religion. Being a responsible gambler goes beyond just gambling with amounts you can afford to lose, it involves a whole lot of discipline.

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June 15, 2024, 11:37:52 PM
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Responsible gambler who is said to gamble for fun is not identified by words but by their gambling actions which are not excluded to loss chasing, gambling excessively, compulsive gambling and the likes.

That you give yourself a target percentage to use for gambling out of your salary or savings doesn't make for complete exhaustion of that percentage to gambling. If am to expend any percentage for gambling from a 10,000$ savings it wouldn't be 10%, that's much for a 10k savings. And I think it would be much fun and entertaining if less percentage should be used for someone with a 10k savings.



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June 15, 2024, 11:44:44 PM
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Still I think you are overestimating how much those of us that can afford to lose would gamble. If I had 10 thousand in savings I would know this ankund isn't enough to invest and forget for a comfortable living listed so I would much rather look at my disposable income.

If after all monthly expenses I have a few hundreds of dollars left then I would maybe risk a few dozen dollars per month because this is what I really can afford to lose. I know this might sound too low for someone that has 10k in the bank but... Those of us that only fable with what we truly can afford to lose exist.

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June 16, 2024, 08:20:22 AM
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Wait, how you can know if someone who spend 10% of his monthly income for gambling will not sad and someone who spend 50% of his monthly income for gambling would feel sad? Huh

Not all people are same like you, if you didn't feel sad for losing 10%, it doesn't mean people will not be sad too when they lose 10%. At the same time some people can be a high risk taker that don't mind to lose 50%.

He is probably referring to the majority of gamblers. I'm sure that if we conducted a survey, most users would say they feel sadder losing 50% of their income compared to losing 10% of their income. This discussion is not just about a certain person or a group; it's about how the majority feels. By understanding this, we can offer practical advice to help ensure we remain disciplined while gambling.

So how about let's talk about you, how do you feel about  this discussion relating to your gambling activities?

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