I just use 2 for myself and told the community in the first post I made as you can see in post 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843017.msg9404140#msg9404140, so I don't really see a problem, actually have you even tried to read what I produced so you understand my point of view? Also, just that a foundation holds 25%, to be distributed among the dutch citizens when the time is right/ they redeem, does not mean 1 person holds the coins, the foundation itself already makes 3 and you makes 4, I also did not buy 1 million from litebit. If you where truly interested you would have read the notary act we made when creating the foundation so you would make comments with a basis. Just that some dutch people descide to not accept our coin does not mean they are not part of our community. Just because not all our members are on the internet or have a bitcointalk/reddit acount does not mean they do not excist. The only people who lost on this coin where the ones stupid enough to sell while losing and not believing in the power of crypto, they will be thought a lesson.

We are the dutch national cryptocoin with an amazing team and community who dedicate their names and faces towards a succes of this coin, some fake account made by someone who doesn't show his face is not going to make a difference. I really admire your determination though, and thanks for your good question. The real reason why I have 2 accounts, is because after years of smoking and living on bitcointalk I developed multiple ways of me, it's just so I can justify my behaviour in this crazy world and my excuses if this confuses you.

Bottom line is that I will leave soon and market will be probably be somewhat dead again unless I really manage on my own, but what are the odd's of that, some other people have to get the news out but me, I kinda spoke to everybody I know now, that's another reason for me leaving by the way. Smart people don't buy without a reason, and if people let you, why not scoop new coins at 1 satoshi? What I try to say is, you can deny our excistence again, like you did for the last couple of months since you made this new account to tell us we where kicked from poloniex (for low volume, because inflation at that time was not even worth 1 bitcoincent that had to be devided among 3 exchanges) and come back with our next moonshot in a couple of months when blockreward halves and show your frustrations again by spreading disinformation, OR:

https://youtu.be/8XFBUM8dMqw?t=2m30s

you descide  

Funfact: did you know in 1 year time over 1 million EFL has been sold by litebit.eu/coin/efl/nl/ That is quite impressive if you ask me!

You really don't have to be sorry, I managed to sell some to a friend, so I guess in someway he is gratefull to you. Good luck with other coins and as long as we are not on tv it's not too late to be one of those early birds that understood what was going on before the rest did. Best buy at this moment is on europex market, think about it. https://www.europex.eu/#!coin/btc/efl

Markets moving nicely, seems like we are preparing for another moonshot 

I put it on our forum and I think it's hilarious that the post got deleted for pointless promotion or spam, that's how I feel with every new NLG merchant

It appears there was a missing word in the last sentence that got misjudged and now I have lost that one chance to do it right from the start. I have been summoned not to repost the text so I won't do that here and i am behind the wrong pc now. Talking about nerves, I've experienced hyperventilation some week ago, while I was driving a car. I put quite a lot at stake for wanting all the pleasure of this game  To quote the moderator "It has been deleted as it is ad spam/pointless promotion. Here's the text; don't make another thread" So tomorrow you know howmuch a life is worth on bitcointalk, but i do have to say the mistake i made was quite big, you'll see tomorrow.

hilarious, as if he will ever achieve anything, what a low life, I'm sure nothing good comes out of that guy.

Hey everybody, I just made a new EFL thread in the discussion section, because our coin was not represented in that area yet. Check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1095092

Total EFL will be 21 million, you can find the predicted inflation rate on our website: http://egulden.org/info/boekhouding/toekomst

Hey everybody, I forgot to update the english thread with our dutch news updates, so here we go:

www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/eerste-overleg-tussen-stichting-bitcoin-nederland-stichting-egulden-foundation

Also check out my first national tv appearance in the dutch newsshow studio powned, I am in the last item and it starts around 40 minutes.

http://www.npo.nl/studio-powned/16-04-2015/POW_01043449

It's allways difficult to answer questions like these, like where do you calculate in. If it's euro's I will be quite possitive the price will rise but when it comes to bitcoin we need a bigger community then we have now. At this moment in time the dutch have a huge advantage over the rest of the world, as we can buy bitcoins, or eGulden, fairly easy with the use of iDeal. However if you look at the greek situation of today and think about cyprus some years ago, this easy access can fall away aswell and then it will be a lot more difficult to get people to invest in the coin. Therefore i feel the urge to succeed before the other system fails, if we wait for that it will be too late and the satoshiprice will be difficult tot maintain. We need people who talk about our coin with friends and family to achieve that, let's hope we will manage, to help our supporters we opened a give-away here so you can introduce people without any cost: egulden.org/community/vrienden-van-de-e-gulden


Your so called problem is called inflation and also happens to EFL. The inflation of NLG (by the way this is the efl thread, thank you) will be 1000 per block for still quite some time. It makes completely no sence to buy a coin where 75% of the coins still have to be generated. NLG is way overvalued today because it's blockreward will halve after the bitcoin blockreward will halve. This means the europrice of a coin will rise drasticly and the new coins will be more expensive then today, even at the current satoshi price. Ofcourse it's fun to be able to spend your coins in a shop, but the only reason why EFL can not do that at the moment is because the NLG community does not want our coins to succeed and therefore is not honoust to new merchants they manage to get hooked on their coin. They just do it for NLG and nothing else, some shops don't even accept btc, but our coin has everything ready for merchants to start accepting EFL and I'm quite positive they will after they hear on the news our coin is worth 5 cents / 10 cents / 1 euro Personally i would feel scammed if i find out after 1 year that the people who sold me a new form of paying where not honoust about some competition and that's why I tell everybody who I sell EFL to that there are multiple gulden in circulation, but I am most connected to EFL.

The reason why I choose EFL in this time is simple, the amount of shorts on the market (meaning, all the coins that have not been generated) reduces way faster then NLG and therefore has more potential to be the first to achieve a pricelevel that people outside of this small cryptocommunity will notice. Also, the opportunity I got with EFL was given to everybody else, but it was me (and the others of the team ofcourse) who took it. I am not affraid to pull this cart and show the people in this country how things can be done different, the people that are affraid to stick their neck out can be found in the NLG community, as they throw the towel in the ring as soon as something which they cannot control happens to them. I feel the people who chose EFL are the ones who really want crypto to succeed and understand the fundamentals of cryptocoins way better the the average NLG supporter, because let's be honoust, you just called inflation a problem, mind if I laugh?

I love to read Luuk his way of dealing with EFL, just use it as a store of value and when we manage to gather more community you can do wallet tot wallet transactions with your friends and family. Before we are there we need to educate the people that selling your EFL for euro's is not mandatory to fullfill a transaction, all we need is a new form of thinking. I already managed to repair my car with EFL, buy a dish antenna for internet in liberland and some other small stuff, so everybody who say's EFL cannot be used just has no imagination and tries to blacklist our coin or promote their holy NLG, but the fact remains that EFL can just aswell be used for payment transactions as any other coin.

Hey, lets laugh about my post on the beavercoin forum while we are waiting for the new wallet release http://forum.beavercoin.org/topic/432/new-member-saying-hi 

[WTB] [WTS] EFL & PCC pls pm

bitbill.nl now accepts EFL, pay all your bills with EFL!

Welkom Maarten, leuk dat je even hallo komt zeggen 

Binnenkort kom ik weer met een leuke nieuwe reden om eGulden te steunen, nog een geduld

as soon as any volume hits you will see a pricespike on this coin. Keep up the good work people, we will trade this to the moon, 1000 sat is not the end

Ja mensen niet allemaal tegelijk bijna een bitcoin volume weer vandaag, als mensen net zo actief zouden reageren op eGulden hadden we al een ander nederland gemaakt met zen allen, maar vooral blijven volhouden dat wij er niet bijhoren 

Dan weet ik dat 

Ha Jansen, je hebt helemaal gelijk hoor, ik ben soms wat cryptisch. Het nieuws wat ik post gaat over het Blockchain Delivery Network (BDN) waarvan e-Gulden via Blitz een onderdeel uitmaakt. Dit team van ontwikkelaars gaat zijn services ook beschikbaar stellen voor e-Gulden omdat deze munt volgens hen uitermate geschikt is om een knallend succes te worden en ze een voorstander zijn van het delen van kennis. Met de naamswijziging van OCUPY naar Blitz is een van de grootste drempels vanuit het eGulden team uit de weg geruimd, namelijk naam en imago. Niets staat een vruchtbare samenwerking voor de toekomst nu nog in de weg. Naast een team van 2 techneuten die altijd klaarstaan voor eGulden is er nu dus nog een club die zich specifiek op mobiele apparaten gaat focussen.  Onze gemeenschap bestaat daarnaast uit mensen met kinderen in een specifieke leeftijd, het leek hen leuk om een pubercorner op te zetten, die is met een naam als blitz natuurlijk helemaal thuis op bitalize.com

Als ik reclame maak doe ik dat tegenwoordig voor de bever munt, mijn Brabantse Eenheid Voor Eerlijke Ruilhandel is helaas nog niet zo'n succes, maar de gelijknamige cryptomunt heeft een leuk forum en handelt op bleutrade https://bleutrade.com/exchange/BVC/BTC