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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: October 04, 2014, 05:55:33 PM
@GroundRod  - Thanks for your effort.  It's greatly appreciated!  iXcoin is finally building a respectable dev team.  It's a great change from the year of no devs.  Good times ahead. 

iXcoin Devs:
ahmed bodi
GroundRod
cinnamon_carter
FrictionlessCoin (still active?)

I think so to Kraizi, and ya FrictionlessCoin contributed allot with his 0.8.6 release, website and his continued comments on here about technical issues have been helpful too.  For the most part though, I think his interests are elsewhere.  Cinnamon_carter has been a big help too, been a guiding light for me, tester and inspiration as much as a busy schedule can allow.  Don't forget Thomas Nasakioto, whom started this all and still shows his support by what goals need to be achieved in order to qualify for bounties he can offer.  I'm confident that Ahmed will be able to meet those, at which point we'll have all the differnet flavors in client builds anyone could want and the best merged mining code found in the cryptosphere.  I've already made one change, taken from the Bitcoin 0.9.3 codebase to correct how our release will find the clients IP, and plan on incorporating allot of that upgrade after Ahmed finishes up, fully aware this will be an ongoing process.


Hi Guys, this is my first post on BTF, I normally spend too much of my time over at ecointalk forum on account of being one of BAs lucky customers.  Anyway, that’s not why I’m here. The reason I’m here is to give you guys my support, I believe in IXC and what you people have been doing with it and I know I’m not the only one. Maybe I’m missing something and the security of this coin is vulnerable after the last coin in mined, is that the case? If not, this coin is every bit as worthwhile as BTC itself. Build it and the people will come!
So, GroundRod post your development address in reply to this post and I will donate IXC 2000 to help continue your work!
Jumbley  Smiley

Wow this is really appreciated Jumbley, and all the folks whom have contributed so far.  I didn't expect this kinda response, you've all shown me that the development efforts we've been working on to bring Ixcoin current and ready for whatever transition changes might be required is perhaps not such a crazy idea after all.  Sometimes it feels like your standing alone amongst the wolfs with just another crazy idea, its good to see and hear from you, and know that we're not alone.

As to your specific question Jumbley, honestly I'm not 100% sure, we'll be in new territory.

The security question I think can be answered with a yes, it will still have nearly the same level of security as Bitcoin itself, because of it's shared very high hash rate.  Let me try to rephrase that question slightly, it's what I was asking myself just this morning:

Will this coin continue to operate after the last one is mined?

What I was doing is looking @ the HaveCoins(), Getcoins() & Fetchcoins() call references in the ConnectBlock() source code of Main.cpp, and asking myself that question.

What you've got to realize, is that blocks will be created with no value to them, still secured by that very high hash rate.  As I'm beginning to understand it, blocks with no other transactions in them, will only have the coinbase, they will take up the rightful place in the blockchain, but there will be no value assigned or transmitted out to the miner.  All the pointers, variables and parameters are there, that is what I've been looking at and thinking about.

This question is even more complex, because you need to answer this question for all the versions of the client which are running on the network now, when the last mined coin transition occurs.  Right now that mostly is still the older 0.3.24 version clients, from what I can tell.  Even though they didn't mine the block, they still have to except it into their blockchain.  So this question could best be answered by Thomas Nasakioto himself, whom wrote it.  There are allot of nodes now showing up that have upgraded to FrictionlessCoin's v0.8.6 client, but not all that many from what I can tell, by looking at my debug logs.  It's a tough question to answer, even for me as far into this as I've gotten.  My guess is that there are some here with allot more knowledge that I, which can and hopefully will come on and answer this question with certainty, I'm still on the learning curve with allot of the rest of you.

What I can say with confidence, is that if the need arises and we have to spring into action, with a network wide upgrade for Ixcoin, that the job will get done.

So greatly appreciate your support,

The address: xnxZzr7KU1U6BRBqvtpdrMKv9PCMd7z2NC

GR
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: October 03, 2014, 05:21:33 PM
@Thomas Nasakioto - Want to thankyou for creating this coin.  Doubt I'll ever understand the true history behind it's making, nor why BCX is so against you having made it.  After some consideration, I now think it's in all our best interest to perpetuate that mystery and tell the story behind the coin, be it by website, forum or twit its the makings of folklore.  In fact that story is still ongoing with your continued support.  

Having lived with the new version of your coins code for more than the last month, I'm less concerned with WHY you've chosen to involve yourself in the development tasks required on a personal level the way you have, now I see that it's allot of work!  ...and requires a considerable amount of ones personal time to be involved with this stuff at the code level.  For me though it's been a great joy to be able to contribute and work with Ahmed on this project.  Knock on wood for continued good health, I should be able to continue that effort for another 10yrs or more, keeping Ixcoin up to the latest Bitcoin codebase level, its something I want to do, beyond that though, if the coin functionality is changed allot, I'm not sure if my intent will remain, we'll just have to see what consensus is found between miners interest, traders desire and developers efforts.  

The inflection point you created in time is upon us, soon the final release of a Ixcoin system which meets your requirements will be out, right in sync with when there is NO more money printing.  Seems to me, like it should be every bit as valuable as a Bitcoin.  At least worth a nickel or a quarter, perhaps even trading briefly for more than a Bitcoin.  The question is, will users of crypto-currency appreciate that fact, only time will tell.

The way these updates are done since this is open source is the job is done and the bounty is collected.

Well ya, it's still not done, but getting really close.  Personally I've received no funds for the work put into the project, nor ever put up an address to receive any, kinda get tired of seeing the constant call by others in the various coins for donations, bounties, blah blah blah, long before anything has even actually been done.  Now that my pre-release build is out, will change that, see below for an address, where anyone can send thanks, if they so desire.

It's taken me a ton of my time to get up to speed in building crypto-coin software, that is what it's been about for me though & have come along way in understanding the 0.9.2 code base and how to be able to build, edit & fix problems within it.  So for me, it has been a great learning experience.  

Our lead developer, now known as MrBodi, as the ahmed_bodi handle got banned:
From way back in our thread, here is his donation addresses:
As i like to keep track of who sends what:

Address for Frictionless to send What he owes: xjTEvSTtSBm5JA5qWm4pFLQqYvdQwRQ5RY

Address for Thomas Nasakioto: xs7ttXXF4HD8tGEbSQDxMMHg7V9H3achCr

Address for Others: xdwN9AfTS1LPZPnuoiprFDGdq3AU1qRwim

Here now by example, I'll show a donation address for my part in the contribution to Ixcoin development.
NOTE: I've reduced the size of these images by ~20% to work on the forum for folks with smaller screen formats, hope they still come through ok, although I note that the images blurred abit.



First Install the new client using the Win32 setup and get your blockchain up-to-date as well as install your wallet.dat file from previous versions.  Mine was originally a 0.3.24 wallet, then it was upgraded to an 0.8.6 version, either or seems to work just fine, at some point you might want to execute the -upgradewallet option when starting Ixcoin, this will bring all the internal wallet data structures up to the latest version.  The simple installer that comes with this release, does one more thing, besides just installing your new execuables, it also installs a registry key so that your operating sytsem knows what to do when you enter a URI into your browser.

Once the new client is installed on your system, simply click on the following link and enter your amount:
ixcoin:xnxZzr7KU1U6BRBqvtpdrMKv9PCMd7z2NC?label=Ixcoin%20Core%20GroundRod%20Development%20Fund&message=Thanks%20for%20your%20support
The address: xnxZzr7KU1U6BRBqvtpdrMKv9PCMd7z2NC

You should then see something like this:


Click on the 'Remember for Ixcoin links' & then simply fill in the amount here:


And click send:


I actually did this, sending 10ixc to myself and you can see it on the overview page here:


You can check any of those above addresses using the Ixcoin block explorer here:
http://darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/IXCoin

@zebedee - Ya it will be & when compared to happenings around the world in the lala land of government backed script, the timing of Ixcoin's terminal coin production is very interesting.

@jotaceo - train, plane neither go fast or high enough, lets try rocket ship....it's scarcity could make headline news everywhere.

@vlad - Really like your sigline image, when you get a chance please send me a (PM) with a link to the highest res version, may yet be able to get it into the code base somewhere, perhaps in the setup program or on the client overview page.

My pre-release build will be little changed from what Ahmed releases, I see he merged my latest pull request.  So unless your a miner, I'd say everybody should upgrade, including merchants as the functionality is so superior.  Still waiting to hear from any of you, as to problems encountered.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: September 30, 2014, 10:19:14 AM
Been a busy week, allot of great stuff happening for Ixcoin, not the least of which is a new client we can start to use. 

At least for most of us, miners still need to wait a bit, and I'm sorry but the mac crowd too. 

MrBodi should be getting the rest of the mining details worked out over the next month and then do the final production release, in all the flavors called for. 

As I just completed this pre-release build & been working hard to get it all tested to the best of my ability, it's now ready for any/all of you win32 users to also give it a try. 

https://github.com/GroundRod/IXCoin/releases

Personally I wouldn't hesitate to start using this as my new Ixcoin wallet, but please-please-please, be extra careful with your funds, and as always backup your wallet.dat file before using it and then between transactions before executing them.  Report any problems here.  Myself or MrBodi will see them, we've both got really busy schedules coming up, so won't always be able to respond or help as much as we would like to.  Once setup properly, it's fast, only sips on your cpu for power and jam packed full of features.

Also included in this release, is a bootstrap.dat file, created current yesterday by me, all the source code changes have also gone up on Github and to the Ixcoin-Dev repository as pull requests (1 pending)... 

The only place I've noticed some stability issues is when trying to get this setup initially. The problem stem from the bitcoin 0.9.2.1 code itself, I'm sure if it.  I solved one of the problems earlier this evening, by introducing a coding change from the Bitcoin Core 0.9.3 code, it helped, but working out all the kinks for everyone of you is beyond what I can accomplish at the moment.  Importing the bootstrap.dat file is easy, if you know how, other threads here can explain the process, it sure is fast for Ixcoin.  Everybody's setup is so different, if your having problems getting the initial install to run properly, by either upgrading your old blockchain files or by using the new bootstrap.dat file, what I've found that completely solves the problem, is to not allow it to connect to any Ixcoin peers/nodes right away.  This can be done several different ways, add a -connect=<some invalid ip> to your shortcut, before running it.  Add a connect=<some invalid ip> statement to your ixcoin.conf file, or hell just pull the plug on your network connection before letting it run the first time.

The client needs to focus on thrashing your harddisk to get that blockchain built and indexed, once that is done, reestablish your network connection and in a few minutes you will be up-to-date & the new client should be at your fingertips.......

Enjoy,
GR
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) on: September 24, 2014, 08:12:36 PM
It just occurred to me, a possible answer to why so much btc is traded in doge.

...Gads 721btc today on one exchange. 

Their is allot of big money setting on their thumbs, twiddling.

...what to do...what to do...

..they spend their days buying and selling a shitcoin, that isn't worth 1 Ltoshi, play games on the crypto forums and stay comfortable.  A coin that prints new amounts in the millions a day harmonizes with their financial viewpoint .

Now I'll make a prediction as to what's about to happen, we're coming up on a time when that is about to change.

Allot of that shitcoin money is going to have to be sold off, for most @ a big loss. 
Allot of what's left in btc will then need to be stored in a safe dark place. 
Something secure and hidden from view, so they can declare that 100% loss in play money.   Allot of that might be used to buy zANC.

I have but a few anc, yet IMO Anoncoin is one of those coins which could exceed a bitcoin in value, perhaps by allot....

GR
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) on: September 24, 2014, 07:23:32 PM
24hr Volume on CEX.io today is @16029anc, or ~22.43btc based on the 0.0014 price.

5th place on Cryptsy right now out of 195 Active Markets, with 8.19btc volume in trade.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) on: September 22, 2014, 08:31:21 PM
@Gnosis - wow quick response & sounded to me, like the right place to look too.

@AnonCoinTwitter - Ya agree, it's just difficult when more than 1/2 the posts are from those whom wish the project to fail.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) on: September 22, 2014, 05:01:57 AM

Thanks to GroundRod !

"zANC" i think distinguishes ANC in a special way, unique lower case prefix in Cryptoland

Thanks.....it kinda just happened, works quickest when typing out ideas, yet gets the idea across that the coins context has been altered.  Don't recall having ever come across its use in Cryptoland symbols, old coder in my feels natural referencing it that way though.  Then again, this is a very unique thing being done to Anoncoin's nature as a concurrency.   

As i said, i'd talk with a marketing friend about zero, and after i'd done some explaining, she came straight out with "Zero2Trust"

Maybe the image can be slicked up:

Anoncoin+ == Anoncoin with Zero2Trust
( oh, Wow, Anoncoin is reborn with Zero2Trust technology !!! Allelulia !!! )

Well, people selling soap powder or fried chicken do it :-)

Maybe the 3 crapcoin refugees frequenting this thread can help, marketing might be their forte, heck, some altcoin surprisingly found it's way onto Finex i recall

Like it allot really, for a marketing position. perhaps something like Zero2Trust is a much better way to make reference to the underlining technology, I'm no expert on such things, nor intend any offense, if you happen to see me call it zANC, for short.

@entertheabyss - Always looking forward to movin on up, & into a better market environment.  Appreciate the work your doing and thanks for the chat log capture & quote, it was a good one....
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: September 18, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
The IXC source is just BTC with the mm patches added. I removed all the DVC changes in there (which wernt relevent

Glad to see you made it back on ahmed_bodi, that's what happens when all your trying to do is good for crypto community and bring the merged-mined altcoin market up to a whole new level.  My hat is off to you sir, so sorry to here about, first your irc avatar attacks, then now on BCT had you banned.  Maybe if we all complain to theymos, it could help you get that corrected.  What the hell.

Please everyone interested, join us on http://webchat.freenode.net/, the ##ixcoin channel, it's been a long week for me working on Ixcoin 0.9.2.1 source.  

First some quick updates:
My Github repository is here:
https://github.com/GroundRod/IXCoin

10hrs ago I committed all of the latest work to the GitHub repository & generated a pull request to our MrBodi.  As time allows, one could expect new builds from him, cinnamon_carter or myself.  It's been a great opportunity & huge learning experience for me to help out on this.  Thankyou for that.

Our 2014 IXCoin Core development team master source branch is here:
https://github.com/IXCoin-Dev/IXCoin


note to ground round would encourage you to fork ahmed's repo like i did any push your commits to your fork

Cinnamon buns, you might be right for calling my ground meat.  This place can/has done that to many.  Seriously call me GR for short, or Daniel works to.  We really need your help, please when you've the time, look @ my solution to the new console command 'verifychain' set to checklevels 3 or 4.  It works, and returns TRUE, only because of the 8 exceptions I coded in.  Feel free to join us on irc or pm me here, if you want to get into the details.  Also feel free to comment on my pull request @githut:
https://github.com/IXCoin-Dev/IXCoin/pull/4

@deadsea33 - Great to hear on the paper wallet!

@FrictionlessCoin - Appreciate and understand your assistance in creating that 'todo' list for us, it's helpful to me, as it confirms what I'm increasingly aware of as needing to get done.  However, I'm 200% in agreement with  cinnamon_carter on Doge and using it as a starting point for Ixcoin.  Just one of many points:  Try installing Doge's bootstrap.dat file, took me until the next day before finally getting THAT downloaded, then another day before finally the client was running live with a blockchain.  Don't forget to delete the bootstrap.dat.backup file,  or it will leave a huge wasted hole on your harddisk.  Compare that to the IXCoin bootstrap.dat file size,  Generated this yesterday, it spans OVER 3 years, 17 weeks of coin production and transactions history, zipped with 7Zip:

Ixcoin_Bootstrap_2013-Sept-17.7z_________________________________________________151 MB (159,091,655 bytes)

This is big news right now in favor for the future use of IXCoin from within cryptocoin community.  A BIG advantage!

More as time allows,
GR
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: September 15, 2014, 08:48:56 PM
@cinnamon_carter - Ran with your ixcoind.exe most of Saturday, it was finally talking ok to my Python 3 upgrade to the bitcoin linearize.py contributions.  Dam P2-P3 coding diffs & all, but its done and now works.  By Sunday I had it and everything I had build crashing because of blockchain errors while attempting to build the bootstrap.dat from highspeed getblockhash/getblock RPC requests, pair for each block on the Ixcoin chain, so as I could build the bootstrapping file from Python 3.

Finally last night started from scratch, initialize blank new everything files and downloaded the ixcoin blockchain w/9.2.1.  Here is what I'm now seeing from running the 'verifychain' at the different check levels, notice all are done starting from block zero:



What is happening here is Checklevels 3 & 4 are not passing, but 1 & 2 do???  This is as far as I've gotten and would like anyone able to comment on possible places to figure out why our Ixcoin blockchain is not passing checks from being freshly downloaded?

I'll be digging into it l8r, got to run and would appreciate a helping hand....

GR

P.S: Love the new command set, its better than anything else I've seen so far, even bitcoins.

ETA: If you look @ the curl example above under the 'help verifychain' output, it still says to talk using the bitcoin port #, think I got all those text references changed to the ixc port # to include in my next build.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: September 14, 2014, 04:31:35 AM
@Vlad - Won't be able to help on the website, but will hold off finishing this port using the 0.8.6 icon & logo images, in the 0.9.2.1 client then.  Until you let me know specifically what final one you've selected, I've got to have it look good as a 16x16 pixel icon as well as ~256x256.png file for use there.  Message me or post here or the logo thread....
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: September 14, 2014, 03:27:35 AM
Turns out I'm now also building Ixcoin 0.9.2.1 from Ahmed's source, got there yesterday morning (ya!  Grin Grin ) and been playing around with some changes to get the user interface right for the release:



You don't get the funnel cloud captured last spring in Wyoming, thought it kinda looked cool, as seen on my desktop...with the Ixcoin Core wallet initializing the blockchain.  There is a storm brewing though, and that storm is IXCOIN!

Opps got caught up in the excitement there for a second, back into the dirt.....

...also got the client UnitsOfMeasure source changed, it now correctly displays uIXC,mIXC & IXC coins everywhere...  Could put up a link to this win32 executable, if anyone is interesting in playing around with it, first though, would like to get a few more changes done to the icon/image resources and have it so the bootstrap.dat file can be imported, for when I've finally got those files being generated correctly as output...

@cinnamon_carter - Haven't gotten back to testing your ixcoind.exe yet, plan is still to do so....  Think the linearize.py file I'm working on will be its first test, beyond that looks like there are a number of code fragments around that more fully exercise the executable(s), will work on rebuilding some of those (more complete tests) in ixcoin's image over the months ahead.
  Lost in study tonight as to the mystery behind how the bootstrap.dat works and what crazy magic number is needed to write the linearized file, and then read it back in correctly.  As you know, this must be done *only* if its a blockchain (bootstrap.dat) file for the correct coin, our IXC...

GR
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: September 12, 2014, 06:52:33 PM
the 0.9.2.1 update must have ahmed's MM code actually running with an ixcoin testnet & pool, binary outputs generated, etc., etc.

The starting point I think was a good one, we had both agreed back sometime ago in this thread....The DVC work was the most promising fork to start the Ixcoin hurdle of running as 9.2.1.

IXCoin's functionality as code base 0.9.2.1 is really close to being releasable, IMO...

Some research....How/what was a Brainwallet ?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Brainwallet
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ptuf3/brain_wallet_disaster/
https://twitter.com/brainwallet
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/brain-wallet
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: September 11, 2014, 06:23:54 AM
Question: what about a plan to use empty blocks to increase the amount of data through the decentralized network up to 1000 bytes like in the case of NXT?

This is what I don't get, why would any miner build an empty block, when there are no coins to mine and no transaction fees to collect?  There is no reward.

The answer I think is pretty simple really, it's in the best interest of the miner to do so, not only for the good of *ALL*, but they secure their place down the road to make a buck, when some transactions do come along. 

We just want to make sure that the miner has solved that block with the highest possible hash rate, so we include that empty block into the ixcoin blockchain as proof of work with the best possible security level.  If nobody is using it, why worry about 2 min block times, true confirmations will be slower, but I think the added security is worth more than that.

If my thinking expressed in the last post is correct, then I would be inclined to not have a block built, until the hash rate was exceedingly high, very near to what bitcoin is, the twin coin we're merge mining against.  Only then would a block be created, if still an empty one then so be it, or possibly use those for some data, like your suggesting it makes perfect sense, just more work to keep the software current to the latest bitcoin release level.

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Reduction to 1-2 minutes per block with a increase of the number of confirmations at the same time, increase of the possible amount of data, even a partial (o total) rebranding/relaunch (see what is happening with fair-coin: they changed from FAC to FAIR and will have a relaunch within days)
More speculation here....
So when the ixcoin network gets busy with a fair number of transactions flying around, I would be in favor of reducing the acceptable hash rate (as proof of work) to a smaller value so that our network can run faster, those times when its not busy, let the hash rate climb up to where its close to bitcoin, personally I don't have a clear picture in my mind of how the merged-mining code works and what would be involved fiddling around with these balanced parameters, someday I hope to understand it well enough to do more than speculate.

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I think a coin should not aim to have just one nice feature, but, as far as possible, all the ones users are asking for. We can build them inside the blockchain or on top of it. The important thing: the user must feel comfortable and secure in using the coin.

Yap totally agree.
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: September 11, 2014, 05:38:18 AM
Despite what some of you may think about the opinions expressed in my last post, I'm not interested in changing Ixcoin to nullify past blocks, especially those from which development funds are coming from.  Was just pointing out, programming can take many directions, most of them are the wrong way to go....community consensus is really important here, and I appreciate the engaged response and discussion it generated, everyone that cared to speak up, I hope got a chance to do so.  If circumstances change, its not a topic to late to discuss, but I think all of us agree it would be a bad idea.  My preference though would be to change the logo, perhaps down the road...

@cinnamon_carter - Indeed, really well said!!!   Shocked post.

The Satoshi Nakamoto white paper can be seen here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_white_paper
...and yes, skimmed all 9 pages, once along time ago, think it was late '11 or 2012.  Then last Dec '13. read and re-read it a over the coarse of several days.  That was more than 8 months ago now, and I agree with you, it is something everyone involved in the financial revolution that is these crypto-coin-thingies should take it to heart, and try to understand it, to the best of his/her ability.  It defines a new way, compared to how most of us where raised, to think about: Money.

Yes I'll try to spend sometime 'talking with' the ixcoind executable you built, been getting prepared to compile my own executables from source, been learning how to fork and fetch copies of Almed's masters to work on locally, have everything downloaded which should be needed to build Bitcoin 0.9.2.1, so hopefully I'm close, been trying to get Ubuntu & VirtualBox setup the way I want, learning to use GitHub, no small task in itself!  The history and the way it got organized is also an interesting story, for those that care...what an invention!

Come to think of it, testing your ixcoind.exe might just get exercised in the project I've taken on for myself, building a Ixcoin Bootstrap.dat file, starting with the source code here:
IXCoin\contrib\linearize

Trying to help get it ready for release, before the end of mining party hits, it doesn't matter in the process of building the executables.  Something we all want to have, with the executables though IMO:  That code Almed is using ,came from Bitcoin (indirectly through a DVC fork), and I'm pretty sure linearize.py is still for Bitcoin, we need it to work for Ixcoin, so I'm writing the config file and changing the code, so that it works for our coin, runs in python to build the linearized version of a blockchain, finally apply that output (bootstrap.dat) to the executable when there is no blockchain files, confirm it initialized properly.  All those hungry new Ixcoin holders will be needing a clean/new blockchain & (I hope) find bootstrap.dat very useful in bringing over 3 years of transaction history up-to-date.

I'm building some bootstrap.dat files for testing on my machine this week, not sure if space anywhere to upload, once I'm done with the code changes, plan is to release it officially via a torrent, it's going to be somewhere in the 300MB range compressed.  How about ixcoin.org, do we have any server space there?  Somewhere I can ftp'it.  Can send it out as a torrent, but I can't keep a machine on to seed it all the time here.  Other suggestions?

So just chugging along...plan is to generate what is for me, the 'first' Git Pull request to Almed, so as to notify him to bring those changes into his source base, at least if I'm understanding how to say that right, learning how to do all this is the 'big deal' to me, still trying to figure allot of stuff out.  Anyway hope to play at least a very tiny roll here as part of a developer team, having you on board w/time Cinnamon_Carter is a really big deal, and although Almed has been doing the heavy lifting, I'm looking forward to being able to help out more in the future too.

@Vlad2Vlad - Ya it might get down to a few large centralized power(s), but I don't see Bitcoin going to one.  As you know, where I've seen a possible weakness is in the transaction Tx and Relay fees coded into our Ixcoin executable, asked Almed about it, doesn't seem to bother him, at least for right now.  So I'm not going to be doing anything there, unless we can agree on 'what needs' to be done.

One could work on that part of the code, perhaps change it to be more friendly to users that might be trying to send Ixcoin with zero or too low of a transaction fee, when known miners no longer accept 0.0 fees, it becomes a BIG problem.  It means that a coin send for you could be lost for a very long time.  As we're soon no longer mining coins, a code change to Ixcoin could become a plus-plus....to those of us using the network, and 'perhaps' a bargaining chip you can use when telling others what we intend on offering, enforcement of transaction fees is important to a coin that no longer mines them and we're going to be doing that, because we have to.  We'll see than your funds get delivered quickly and easily to the recipient.  This is not to say it's a reversible charge in the traditional sense, but it could be thought of as a 'Save an innocent' user from accidentally (or intentional-think cheap) sending coins that can never get delivered.  If you ever have to 'reverse a charge' from within your wallet software, so as to 'try it again' with a higher fee, I'm pretty sure most people won't have a clue.  Instead, they'll consider the coins lost, because of the dam coin's network.  That is what I'm trying to avoid & a Reminder:  No coding work is being offered here to be included in the up-and-coming release, nothing regarding Tx/Relay fees will be different, I'm pretty sure it will be identical to the Bitcoin 0.9.2.1 code base in this regard.  But the code 'could' get changed, if we want it to be and we keep it simple enough.

@Deadsea33 - Its interesting info, and along the lines of what I also think are some good ideas, I'm not expert enough to comment, other than to suspect that faster block times would mean accepting a reduction in the hash (security) that is allowed for a merged block to be included in the ixcoin blockchain.  'IF' that thinking is correct, one could argue that the hash rate has gotten so high 'now', that we could live with allot less (as proof of work), if it meant that in so doing, our ability to speed up transaction transversal time gets reduced.  Say by a factor of 4x or in the 2-3 minute range.  Kinda thinking it sounds like a really good idea, yet my guess is there is some details I don't understand well enough, so kinda talking to myself out loud here...

L8r All,

GR
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) on: September 06, 2014, 04:21:44 AM
Was playing around with getting the order books from the different exchanges for ANC :

These are the API commands I've got so far, all are public and don't require account access:

URL's below return a JSON response string.  At least some testing has been done with each of them:

https://cex.io/api/order_book/ANC/BTC   
http://pubapi.cryptsy.com/api.php?method=singleorderdata&marketid=66
https://bleutrade.com/api/v2/public/getorderbook?market=ANC_BTC&type=ALL&depth=99
https://api.vircurex.com/api/orderbook.json?base=ANC&alt=BTC
https://www.coins-e.com/api/v2/market/ANC_BTC/depth/

*Bleutrade's default of 20 on depth covers the whole orderbook right now, set the depth to 99 in above example, if there is more you can up it.
**The limit on Coins-e may default to 20, haven't figured out how to increase that if the depth goes up, may need to edit this command.
***Didn't see an api for BTC38, it may very well have one.

Catches: 
1) You've got to be able to reformat the JSON responses so you can read them.
2) Cryptsy may be the one your most interested in seeing beyond all the small trades, unfortunately
the above URL no longer returns all the orderbook positions.  2 months ago was able to get the
complete order book off Cryptsy this way, now for some reason they are only returning aprox~ what you
can already see depth wise on the buy/sell webpage.  Hm there must be a new depth parameter,
if so, I'm not seeing it listed on the API help page.  Perhaps you now have to use an account authorized POST
request in order to get a copy of the complete set of buy/sells orders....any ideas?

The exchange list on the anoncoin wiki could be updated to include cex.io, also feel free to grab these links for API access to include on that page if you want.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) on: September 05, 2014, 04:52:14 PM
Sounds good K1773R.

Just a head up, to those interested.  Earlier today Cex.io enabled withdrawals,  fee/commission set to 0.01ANC.  Yay... Grin
*Come trade*

General usage observation:
Had several transactions in route over the last week, only the bluetrade failed, generated a support ticket, had the funds within a day.
zAnoncoin has an exciting future, and tremendous team of people behind bringing it all together.
What was the problem with bleutrade? Im interested Wink
Did they also create transactions which didnt get confirmed? If so, could you give me the TXID?
I was wondering that to, but have no idea the cause, perhaps you can tell.  All I know is nothing showed up on the blockchain or in my wallet after 12+hrs, so created a support ticket, then some hours later it showed up, never did get any email from them or comment on the support ticket I had created...just closed it as resolved.
Here is the Tx ID: 03feceb0cd385493955a2f63d0cdac08eb7db8da055111eb0a0123d0d5ee9c59


VOTING TIME!

Guys,
if you have a CEX.io account
would you mind upvoting my feature request not to sell ANC for BTC automatically called "Multipool reward"?

https://support.cex.io/hc/communities/public/topics/200082417?requests_only

Although I'm not mining, voted it up and commented too.

@Marica420 - Most definitely. Welcome Marielle.

@drAGon925 - "...to get more time for buy" Hard to see in the charts, though sure does feel like a bottom formed.  We'll see.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: September 05, 2014, 06:07:49 AM
I don't know if you know the answer or now but do you know who mined milions of iX early on as unredeemed at output to all different addresses ? 

Whoever did it had to know what they were doing.



Those millions of IXC will never be redeemed. The clients were being run out of several virtual machines that have long been since deleted in the earliest of IXC attacks by yours truly. For all of those who do not remember, TN was the original pre-mine scammer "enthusiast" who didn't bother to disclose that fact until it was discovered post launch. That was the sole reason the "I0coin" was created.

IXC will never go anywhere till TN decides to step away.

BTW, TN is *not* a single individual, IXcoin had a developer and a front man who posted as TN who has indicated several times he is not a developer at various points on the board. The original developer dropped the project after they realized that the premine wasn't going to work leaving TN to handle things on his own which is why it decayed into the zombie it was for a couple of years.


~BCX~

Thanks much for this insight to Ixc past.  It got me to thinking, it would be easy to shake this zombie off, if we all agreed to code into the client a complete rejection of spends from a certain set of addresses, any of those in the distant past on the blockchain that we want to nullify, perhaps you saved a copy of those virtual machine wallet addresses?  We could start with those.  BTW won't want to nullify any of those old IXC addresses with coins you may have found recently.  Way I see it, you earned them!

Figure you already know this BCX, but for some it might be news.
If everyone on the network installed the new version, no one could ever spend those coins again, end of story.  Asain coin had to do this, as of yet the price has never recovered, but a huge community team effort went into overdrive and they stopped the developer(whom disappeared) from ever spending the (up to then) hidden premine, exchanges and everybody came back online, its a good one to learn about POS and staking too IMO.


Unless you want to work something out with ahmed_bodi to obtain the github.com/ixcoin repository, it will become the new official ixcoin developers link for 9.2 and beyond.


Thank you for your work.

I can give ahmed_bodi collaborator access to the Ixcoin github if people think he is trustworthy.

Your welcome Nasakioto, been trying to help out as time allows.  As to ahmed_bodi.....I do.

I agree with GroundRod (what's a ground rod?) that a minimum fee should be added.  But I don't know what that should be.  I've messages Jeffrey but no response yet.
Glad you asked Vlad2Vlad:
Mostly I used these:
Pointed End Ground Rod, Length 8 ft., Diameter 5/8 In., Material Copper Bonded Steel, Features 10 mil Copper Coating, 30-yr. Service Life, Standards UL
http://www.zoro.com/g/Ground%20Rods/00062557/?category=7666
Interesting 59sec vid on a guy installing one similar to what I use to do:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sLv4LLVPbA

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Bitcoin fees are about to skyrocket which is how I knew they'd use LTC and doge as a bandaid.  IXC will have yet one more huge advantage over Bitcoin:  Way cheaper fees.  And of course much faster block propagation.

Cheers!

Put that last part big, front and center on the IXCFoundation site, sounds good to me too.  All I'm asking for is a note somewhere listing current commitment to tx fees from various top Miners, if possible how long into the future they will hold to that price too, the more the better.

unless changes are coded to the present source or the upcoming 9.2 work (that I still have not had a chance to review due to a few other things going on ) I believe in btc 9.2 lets you set whatever you want as a fee (Which of course advanced users can do now) however sending a tx with no fee means you may not get confirmed quickly  ??  I know with btc from reading posts and listening to lectures Gavin says miners should determine the fees.
I pretty much agree with Gavin here, sounds like you do too.  Here is where the IXCFoundation joins forces with the Miners and moves to warp speed.  Actually I think we should change the code there to not allow even advanced users to set a fee lower than our programmed minimum.  True anyone building from source can comment out our code and build a version to allow that, but I don't think the production code should allow having its fee set to zero by anyone from the user interface or the console or rpc.  Having no more blocks to mine means that everyone has to pay a fee.  Wouldn't you agree?

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I am not making any suggestion as to what fee's should be 'coded' to or forced to or even saying that needs to be done at all.
Just pointing out that a few tweaks to the advanced features of 9.2 may be necessary to make these changes if whoever makes the final choice wants a minimum fee set.  These changes may not just be commenting out a few lines of code either.....

Ya I don't see that anything needs to be changed right this second, nor in Ahmed's initial release.  Sounds like a good project for me to take on though, goal of having whatever Tx fee code changes IXC needs, done by the end of the year.  That means commits on github, reviewed and built into the next revision bump by ahmed, gads of stuff for me to figure out, but then I've known how to crank when I finally get going.

If Bitcoin has that option set up then we should leave it like that.  Miners should set the fee since they're doing the work.  So in that case, let's not change the code.
Bet ahmed will be glad to hear that too, merged mine code tested w/the old logo added & the different platforms built, as per the terms.  Lets get the bounty money in escrow for Ahmed, this thing is close to being a done deal.

Its important to us though, showing confidence on the IXCFoundation site by listing the miner terms, our usage settlement cost, that's the confidence we're trying to build now.  Wiping out all the older premines could be a fairly easy coding task, both it & Tx fees could be coded up and released as an update quickly if need be.  Right now, I don't think we need to do either.  How many coins to use would we get outta this old engine, if we nullified all those old premines...20 million, 18, 15?

@Vlad2Vlad - you must know somebody that could build an Andriod version, when the above is ready it should be easy for the right coder & might be a nice addition.  Is how to print a paper wallet going to be on the IXCFoundation site too? 

l8r all,

GR
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) on: September 05, 2014, 03:43:03 AM
Sounds good K1773R.

Just a head up, to those interested.  Earlier today Cex.io enabled withdrawals,  fee/commission set to 0.01ANC.  Yay... Grin
*Come trade*

General usage observation:
Had several transactions in route over the last week, only the bluetrade failed, generated a support ticket, had the funds within a day.
zAnoncoin has an exciting future, and tremendous team of people behind bringing it all together.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: PotCoin | THE OFFICIAL COINS FOR THE CANNABNIS INDUSTRY | Launched 01/21 @ 4:20 on: September 05, 2014, 02:50:13 AM
Still not posted as an update to their blog...

http://blog.moolah.io/

guess a tweet is all we get, thanks Rraider.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: September 04, 2014, 06:03:51 AM
@Vlad - You must thrive on the drama, don't encourage him.... Zebedee's position is as valid at the next person, it just makes it hard to follow this thread with any serious development work.

@Vlad2Vlad - Very strange to me that Thomas wants to set site editing conditions, but hey who ever pays the bill for it, is at least willing to let it be brought up-to-date and that is a good thing...

Would say honor the conditions, keep any web work there to a minimum so its accurate and proceed to develop whatever you have planned somewhere else, like the IXCFoundation site, leaving ixcoin.org as a historical reference point.  I don't like keeping the original logo, but hay if that gets ahmed the bounty, who cares run with it.

@kraizi - As of yet, other than you, few have even commented on it.  Waiting for Vlad to hear back from Jeffrey @ cex.io on his thoughts.  Ya I put the 1ixc txfee up as just an idea, even there it's = to 0.000048btc right now, apx. an order of magnitude cheaper than a bitcoin's fee.  What has been bugging me for more than a month is how Worldcoin's withdrawal fee suddenly jumped on several exchanges to 1 coin.  Just recently moved some around and sent some from my wallet with a 0.001 worldcoin tx fee and there was no problem with getting it delivered, haven't looked into 'why' several exchanges increased the withdrawal fee on that coin, but its a show stopper if you are only moving a few coins around.  Scratch the 1ixc coin tx fee idea, I don't like it either, but without offering miners some reward, we've got to consider the 'try to send once' failure as the biggest problem IXC faces, no other coin has run this long and run out of blocks to mine.  And so it will be the first coin that has to learn to hurdle itself over that obstacle.

Apparently you (correct me if I'm wrong) and Vlad and many others feel that this is a 'non' issue, the miners are willing to merge-generate ixc blocks for 'free'.  What I'm trying to say is nothing lasts at that price in the world of commence, ya for now they can do that and apparently will do that 'for 'free', but what happens when no miner can be found to include your coins for sending at that price?  Commence ends until an agreed upon price can be found, in the mean time you'll have potentially hundreds, if not thousands of really pissed off users with stuck coins they can't move, most will not want to learn programming so they can repair a wallet and reverse the send that never went through. 

If IXC price goes up to 0.05 btc, then I would say your 0.0001 Tx fee is a very good bargain and potentially a cash cow for the miners, if IXC price drops to 1sat, then I would say its going to cost you 1000ixc to get a transmit to go through, that reality is on the horizon, not the distant future.  I would like to see something like this:

The client software queries the IXCFoundation website before coin is sent,
the Tx fee is adjusted based on currently available miner bids and
the user is presented with a choice as to how much they want to spend to send the coin,
the user then determines how fast the network will likely process it.
*An cryptocurrency innovative idea

That is just one of many possible solutions, but we can be the first in discovering them.

@kraizi - Sincerely, thanks for your comments.  We do agree that getting the transaction quantities way up there is a really important thing to do, figuring out ways to make that happen is a very good thing...  Vlad's efforts and the creation of the Foundation... I think are pure positive, as well as getting organized in general, promoting the fact that IXC is BTC, just much cheaper, I think should be front and center, as to the Counterparty stuff I've yet to form an opinion, but you will have to inspire a developer to care, right now I think we're extremely lucky to be getting this upgrade to 9.2.1 with merge-mined code fully tested.  Once that is running on CEX too, then perhaps more good things will follow.


GR
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