Ixcoin TODO

[cinnamon_carter]

note to ground round would encourage you to fork ahmed's repo like i did any push your commits to your fork

when time allows i will look at them

not much time for me to do any testing last few days due to personal reasons but later this week i should have time to take a look at things again

[FrictionlessCoin]

note to ground round would encourage you to fork ahmed's repo like i did any push your commits to your fork

when time allows i will look at them

not much time for me to do any testing last few days due to personal reasons but later this week i should have time to take a look at things again

One other alternative is to start of with what DogeCoin has done to create a merged mined coin.

It's based on the 0.9 bitcoin codebase and likely more robust than the version that Ahmed started with (i.e. An untested Devcoin port).

The key changes would be:

(1) Change the difficulty calculation.
(2) Change the reward calculation.
(3) Change the PoW back to SHA256

Anyway,  it looks like DOGE is now following my original strategy for IXC.

(1) Start with a merge mine coin.
(2) Transition to a low inflation rate mining rewards.
(3) Add Counterparty capability (see: DogeParty)

Note:  There is nothing to prevent DOGE from becoming a Bitcoin merged mine coin in the future. 

[FrictionlessCoin]

@ Friction,

Please, can you be more specific about your proposal on these 3 points? Thanks

(1) Change the difficulty calculation.
(2) Change the reward calculation.
(3) Change the PoW back to SHA256

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PS ~ 190k left to mine. Fasten your seat belt.

(1) The way IXC calculates difficulty is different from Bitcoin and DOGECoin.  You can't just use any difficulty calculation since this would invalidate previously mined blocks.

(2) The mining reward calculation needs to be the same as what IXC current provides.   That is,  96 in the beginning, 48 right now and zero after a certain block.

(3) This refers to the DOGE coin port which has a scrypt based PoW rather than a SHA256 proof of work.

These appear to be pretty basic fixes.   Considering that the DOGE coin base has been on merge mine mode since Sept.11,  this is probably a better place to start than the DVC version which hasn't really been vetted.

[mrbodi]

The IXC source is just BTC with the mm patches added. I removed all the DVC changes in there (which wernt relevent

[steelhouse]

I would like to complete a survey we started time ago. Which mascot can we choose for iXcoin?
Dogecoin has Shiba Inu, Bitpay has a bear named Curly.
What should we choose for ixcoin?

Curly from 3 stooges would be good, but I think someone would get sued.  Why all the action.  If you bump up the transaction fee to 1, there would be plenty of large owners and mm, to keep the mining going.  As for blocks with zero transactions, I still think the large owners would do them to keep their investment intact.

As for a meme, how about  eye X.  An oval shaped like an eye, and X for the pupil, and the words, "Hi I am socially distorted".  Surrounding the eye is a gold coin.

[instacalm]

I would like to complete a survey we started time ago. Which mascot can we choose for iXcoin?
Dogecoin has Shiba Inu, Bitpay has a bear named Curly.
What should we choose for ixcoin?

A picture of Vlad2Vlad

[cinnamon_carter]

if you want to do this, go ahead , fork the d0ge repo and push your work to github

personally i would not want to work from anything other than bitcoin since iX is merged with bitcoin and that is not the only reason

litecoin / the others are based on bitcoin but why would i ever want to make extra changes to something when i can make fewer changes to something i.e. scrypt 1024 back to sha 256d

when someone says something is 'more likely robust' that may or may not be true

what facts (and if you don't mind be specific to the lines of code) show one as more 'robust' than the other ? (by robust i assume you mean better)

(also I am not writing /coding this project just testing as of now) 

but , suppose I was and was to follow your suggestion,  I would have to eliminate and rewrite all references to things like this all over the place

https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/blob/master/src/scrypt-sse2.cpp

https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/blob/master/src/scrypt.h

https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/blob/master/src/dogecoind-res.rc

I am not good enough to write bitcoin source on a blank sheet of paper from memory but i have a little experience.

Seriously dude , why would you go about it like that ?

My personal opinion on doge is that it is probably the worst alt coin ever ---- period ---- I don't care what they fixed , I don't care if it get's merge mined with gold and they fork it again to make the proof of work algorithm md5.  It was no accident, has big money behind it and has from the start.
The original source code was cloned from junk coin and if there was only one coin I could see get 51%'d --- I would select doge.

note to ground round would encourage you to fork ahmed's repo like i did any push your commits to your fork

when time allows i will look at them

not much time for me to do any testing last few days due to personal reasons but later this week i should have time to take a look at things again

One other alternative is to start of with what DogeCoin has done to create a merged mined coin.

It's based on the 0.9 bitcoin codebase and likely more robust than the version that Ahmed started with (i.e. An untested Devcoin port).

The key changes would be:

(1) Change the difficulty calculation.
(2) Change the reward calculation.
(3) Change the PoW back to SHA256

Anyway,  it looks like DOGE is now following my original strategy for IXC.

(1) Start with a merge mine coin.
(2) Transition to a low inflation rate mining rewards.
(3) Add Counterparty capability (see: DogeParty)

Note:  There is nothing to prevent DOGE from becoming a Bitcoin merged mine coin in the future. 

[FrictionlessCoin]

The reason why I am suggesting the DOGE coin fork is that the Merged Mining code has been tested and deployed.

There is no instance of a 0.9.2 SHA256 based merged mined client that has been extensively tested and deployed.

Although you make think DOGE as a joke,  DOGE in fact has one of the most active development teams out there.  

I can certainly make the changes myself, but I don't really think it is worth my while.

[cinnamon_carter]

i dont care how active they are


junk is junk


since start how many times has btc forked ?

ix ?

litecoin ?

doge ?

if it's not worth your time , dont bother, go out and have a drink or something.

I don't personally know ahmed_bodi but his work looks pretty fucking good to me.

It compiles , with no errors, first lick after I had the correct tree unlike the work of some other people who have been involved in this project.

Thats all i am going to say----------


for testing ============================ using 9.x

1) suggest someone make merge p2pool with btc and ix

2) same with Eloipool

if they run on testnet would be a good sign since no one is going to hit blocks on their own

that is how i was going to test them when i have time but that may be delayed until the weekend or next weekend.

The reason why I am suggesting the DOGE coin fork is that the Merged Mining code has been tested and deployed.

There is no instance of a 0.9.2 SHA256 based merged mined client that has been extensively tested and deployed.

Although you make think DOGE as a joke,  DOGE in fact has one of the most active development teams out there.  

I can certainly make the changes myself, but I don't really think it is worth my while.

[GroundRod]

The IXC source is just BTC with the mm patches added. I removed all the DVC changes in there (which wernt relevent

Glad to see you made it back on ahmed_bodi, that's what happens when all your trying to do is good for crypto community and bring the merged-mined altcoin market up to a whole new level.  My hat is off to you sir, so sorry to here about, first your irc avatar attacks, then now on BCT had you banned.  Maybe if we all complain to theymos, it could help you get that corrected.  What the hell.

Please everyone interested, join us on http://webchat.freenode.net/, the ##ixcoin channel, it's been a long week for me working on Ixcoin 0.9.2.1 source.  

First some quick updates:
My Github repository is here:
https://github.com/GroundRod/IXCoin

10hrs ago I committed all of the latest work to the GitHub repository & generated a pull request to our MrBodi.  As time allows, one could expect new builds from him, cinnamon_carter or myself.  It's been a great opportunity & huge learning experience for me to help out on this.  Thankyou for that.

Our 2014 IXCoin Core development team master source branch is here:
https://github.com/IXCoin-Dev/IXCoin

note to ground round would encourage you to fork ahmed's repo like i did any push your commits to your fork

Cinnamon buns, you might be right for calling my ground meat.  This place can/has done that to many.  Seriously call me GR for short, or Daniel works to.  We really need your help, please when you've the time, look @ my solution to the new console command 'verifychain' set to checklevels 3 or 4.  It works, and returns TRUE, only because of the 8 exceptions I coded in.  Feel free to join us on irc or pm me here, if you want to get into the details.  Also feel free to comment on my pull request @githut:
https://github.com/IXCoin-Dev/IXCoin/pull/4

@deadsea33 - Great to hear on the paper wallet!

@FrictionlessCoin - Appreciate and understand your assistance in creating that 'todo' list for us, it's helpful to me, as it confirms what I'm increasingly aware of as needing to get done.  However, I'm 200% in agreement with  cinnamon_carter on Doge and using it as a starting point for Ixcoin.  Just one of many points:  Try installing Doge's bootstrap.dat file, took me until the next day before finally getting THAT downloaded, then another day before finally the client was running live with a blockchain.  Don't forget to delete the bootstrap.dat.backup file,  or it will leave a huge wasted hole on your harddisk.  Compare that to the IXCoin bootstrap.dat file size,  Generated this yesterday, it spans OVER 3 years, 17 weeks of coin production and transactions history, zipped with 7Zip:

Ixcoin_Bootstrap_2013-Sept-17.7z_________________________________________________151 MB (159,091,655 bytes)

This is big news right now in favor for the future use of IXCoin from within cryptocoin community.  A BIG advantage!

More as time allows,
GR

[publicjud]

At this point you can even show your Secret Private Key to everybody: it's now useless

If you share your Private Key, then someone else could import the key and use the coins....

[FrictionlessCoin]

At this point you can even show your Secret Private Key to everybody: it's now useless

If you share your Private Key, then someone else could import the key and use the coins....

So you mean I can use the private key over and over again? But if the wallet has joined a IXC QT Wallet with password, how is it possible? Am I missig something?
Thanks

The act of adding a private key into a wallet does not make the private key useless.   You still need to transfer the coins from the original account to another account to make the private key useless.  

The wallet password only encrypts the contents of the wallet.  But if you expose your private keys, then anyone can have access to the coins associated with the private key.

An unencrypted wallet has all the private keys of that wallet exposed.

[cinnamon_carter]

very correct -  BY ALL MEANS --- deadsea and EVERYONE please llisten to Frictionless here,

(first let me apologize Frictionless if i was a bit harsh on your suggestions previously but d0ge makes me want to puke what more can i say)

deadsea....

in any 'modern wallet'  a qt,

use the command

listaddressgroupings

it will show you 'all' the addresses that wallet has

each one has a key

never reveal priv keys , ever , ever,  EVER

A while back I know of at least 2 scammers who were posting on reedit , and i think in the forums here to 'check if your keys were stolen' just to steal peoples bitcoin.    Also if someone gets a picture of your paper wallet it is childs play to steal the key.   Remember that talk show where a guy wanted to show how easy it was to use bitcoin and sent it to his co host,  when she held it up , someone watching in less than 60 seconds used
importprivkey and the btc was gone. 


there is more information (not realted to paper wallets which are something I am just personally not a fan of since a lot of stuff can go wrong-- yes i realize they are a good way to store a lot of coins but you really have to know what you are doing if dealing with paper wallets)

There is some info in this short guide I once wrote for people to 'recover' a lost or corrupted qt wallet

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/13377-quick-surefire-guide-how-to-rebuild-a-qt-wallet-if-you-lost-your-coins-step-by-step-instructions/

At this point you can even show your Secret Private Key to everybody: it's now useless

If you share your Private Key, then someone else could import the key and use the coins....

So you mean I can use the private key over and over again? But if the wallet has joined a IXC QT Wallet with password, how is it possible? Am I missig something?
Thanks

The act of adding a private key into a wallet does not make the private key useless.   You still need to transfer the coins from the original account to another account to make the private key useless.  

The wallet password only encrypts the contents of the wallet.  But if you expose your private keys, then anyone can have access to the coins associated with the private key.

An unencrypted wallet has all the private keys of that wallet exposed.

[cinnamon_carter]

Honestly , I think that since Vlad has had such devotion to iX , and i am not joking here, having him be the public 'face' of the coin is a great idea.

I actually suggested this to him in private a while ago and he said since he is not familiar with a lot of coding and all he could not do it.

I felt that just like any ceo or politician who runs something big he would be the perfect personality to represent IX on talkshows,  at conventions, you tube videos even television comercials.   Tech questions can always be dealt with by others later on.

No one is more devoted to iX than him. (that I know of)  

Just like Charlie Lee talks about Litecoin, Gavin talks about Bitcoin , Vlad should be the one 'out there' talking about iX coin.

I am not joking at all 100% serious.  




EDIT 1

was going to start a new thread with a survey but I am not sure what/ who else to put in there ?   

I would like to complete a survey we started time ago. Which mascot can we choose for iXcoin?
Dogecoin has Shiba Inu, Bitpay has a bear named Curly.
What should we choose for ixcoin?

A picture of Vlad2Vlad

[koby]

I thougt that I coud make money with this coin my mistake.

[Vlad2Vlad]

I thougt that I coud make money with this coin my mistake.

Dear Tuff-Guy,

Please show me which coin you would have money with over the past few months.

Most alts are down over 90%.  IXC has held up amazingly given it's supposedly near death.

Wth the exception of a few pump coins and the recent jump in alts, IXC has been solid.

If you're not happy then please dump [ASAP] and buy ShitCoin.  lol.


Cheers!

[Vlad2Vlad]

Thank you cinnamon and everyone else for your vote or confidence.  I'll do my best to keep my mouth shut so IXC can have good representation.  I do still believe in iXCoin and I hope in the next 30-60 days everyone will see why.  I think once the mining is finished things will start to happen.

But warning to investors - diversify just in case.  IXC is a risky investment [just like Bitcoin et al] perhaps even more so, albeit, the reward potential on IXC may be much greater [if I prove correct].

Cheers!

[zebedee]

Date of death keeps advancing.  Looking like 11th October now.  It was fun while it lasted.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Date of death keeps advancing.  Looking like 11th October now.  It was fun while it lasted.

Isn't that what I said a few months ago?  Late September I said to your mid October, I think?

I do believe you owe me 10 BTC.  haha.

Well, in about 2-3 weeks, we'll find out who was right all along.  I hope you'll show up if you were wrong [again].  If I'm wrong I'll be here to take the hit.

Going to bed now, working early tomorrow.


Cheers!

[Vlad2Vlad]

So Vlad2Vlad, let's bet 10 bitcoins on August vs October.  If coin issuance stops in August I pay you 10 BTC.  If coin issuance stops in October you pay me 10 BTC.  Any other month nothing changes hands.

Put up or shut up.

Nevermind, I thought it would move faster and finish mining in August.

So let's forget about that bet thingie.  lol.   

We're still on for an end of mining party though, right?

iXcoin sudden death or not, I'm partying that day.

Even if it has to be a lone [sober] virtual party.  lol.


Goodnight Zebedee and thanks for the help.  Meant a lot!