Anyone else finding this token reissue "solution" deeply troubling? I understand the sentiment but it really opens a massive Pandora's box. Centralized exchange loses $300 million because they gave some crook access to their wallet... no big deal, we'll just tweak the blockchain the database. Perfect cover for a less-scrupulous exchange to steal from a large customer. tbh, it's only troubling insofar as ICO tokens were centrally issued and not censorship resistant to begin with. a lot of tether and ICO token haters have been pointing that out for years---that centrally issued tokens can't possibly have the same security guarantees as decentralized coins like bitcoin. in a way, it could be argued this is a feature and not just a bug. you can't have the expectation of censorship resistance of course, but hacks and thefts can be rolled back with ease. maybe this is a legitimate trade-off, as long as we all understand the limitations of highly centralized projects. tokens =/= cryptocurrencies etc. Also keeping that amount of funds in the supposed "hot" wallet doesn't make any sense but then again, it never does when those centralized exchanges get "hacked".
that was the insane part to me. over $150 million in ERC-20 tokens alone. who the hell is withdrawing $40 million in ACOIN tokens on a daily basis? nobody, since kucoin is literally the only market for it, according to CMC anyway. madness! the other hot wallet losses (BTC, ETH, LTC, etc) were in the range of what you'd expect, more or less. i dunno what they were thinking with their token storage. they were obviously too dependent on their internal risk controls (re withdrawal approval) and not planning for the possibility of getting their actual keys leaked.
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I have been playing in this site in the past weeks but i don't have much luck, on my last run get busted with AQ vs AK... I want to try their tournaments but need some free time for it, i will try to join them this weekend.
I see some cash tables has a jackpot amount on the top, does anyone know how to win that jackpot?
When games get going it can be pretty action packed. Tournaments can actually be quite soft. The bad eat is aces over kings getting beat or better I think. So, if i go with KK and someone else goes with AA and i win i get the jackpot? no, it's much more rare than that. the BBJ gets triggered when someone loses the main pot with AAAKK (the nut full house) or better. that means you're only gonna see it happen when at least one player has quads or better. there are some additional rules too. for example, quads only count when you have pocket pair hole cards. It would be nice to have more info about it, i had try to search on the site and couldn't find info, and i'm not allowed to ask in the chat because i have not much krill. So, it would be nice if you explain me the right way to win the prize in the jackpot. Thanks.
all the info you need is here: https://swcpoker.eu/post/bad-beat-jackpot-starting-at-100k
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*edit* Final table now, perilously close! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEV28AsS.jpg&t=663&c=aXNvL56SvgU3TQ) FS came 4th lost with AK to QJ he hit a J brutal. bubbles are never fun but hey, you can't win every 65-35 flip. it's a numbers game. these are some solid deep runs though---good job. you're definitely getting some good experience here. of course, micro stakes won't prepare you for the skill level you'll see in mid stakes, but it's an important part of the journey. oh and i finally got around to making a twitch account. say hello to your newest follower, foma888. i look forward to following your progress. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Should be a good one, I watched what little Polk put out in August as he had open challenges out to get some practice in. Nothing spectacular and you could tell he knew he had to put some work in. Which I think he's happy with his progress the last month and a half, as he started pushing for a start date again.
i saw him getting crushed at the low stakes tables a few weeks ago. i wasn't sure if it was mainly cuz he's out of practice or because nobody respects raises at 1/2 or whatever stakes they were. is there gonna be any live streaming of DN and polk, or is it just gonna be Kane Kalas providing commentary watching online tables? i'd love to see them talking shit in real time. Funnily enough Polk has no trust in Daniel, and has an inspection request clause to ensure no RTA is being used.
lol. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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the betting markets didn't take too kindly to trump's coronavirus diagnosis. did anybody bet trump when his odds were below 30%? punters must have been getting close to 3.5! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeawDxPp.png&t=663&c=lEA5UeTk7gh51g) Trump just announced he is delaying stimulus package for after elections, and all markets dropped after this including Bitcoin.
dumb move. what the hell is he thinking? that's just pissing away votes. he could at least keep talks open even if he wants to delay the actual stimulus. i'm beginning to get the feeling that trump is subtly giving up and doesn't even wanna win the election anymore.
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tell me you didn't really join the game with the intention of not paying the massive amount of 400 chips... saying players who don't pay the fees, wouldn't get points, doesn't make it any better.
Lol. Yes, it was an intention. I thought it's funny to start using this little "white privilege" of the chipleader. Stir up the swamp, so to speak. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) But anyway, if players oppose this idea, no problem. Let's make a poll, mods? just pay the 400 chips/game dude. everyone else did. those chips are part of the buy-in because they pay for prize pool in the championship. it's not just a matter of the lottery tickets. with so few qualifiers left, i'm officially out of the running at this point. i set an alarm to play yesterday and intended to play like a maniac (chip up quick or bust) but when the time came i just went back to sleep. i was just coming off a 12+ hour drive the night before.
not my series! i'm still hoping to make it to the last couple games though....
It seems you are quite busy nowadays, missed your super tight play on the table ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) . Come and play 1 more game so that you will qualify for the Small Final incase there will be one, I'll take you on the table ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) yeah, super busy these days. there's 2 qualifiers left right? i should make at least one of them. i'd like to at least keep up my streak of cashing in either the championship or the runners up final in each series. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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well done @jayce---good to see you cashing. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) with so few qualifiers left, i'm officially out of the running at this point. i set an alarm to play yesterday and intended to play like a maniac (chip up quick or bust) but when the time came i just went back to sleep. i was just coming off a 12+ hour drive the night before. not my series! i'm still hoping to make it to the last couple games though....
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To be fair, the signs were coming a long time ago already for Bitmex, and people should have seen it coming. I mean Bitmex has long been under the US radar because of how they used to allow US accounts. it's hard to know exactly what that would entail, if anything. remember, bitfinex offered its services to USA residents for several years before giving them the boot. bitfinex was also being investigated by the CFTC beginning in 2017, and continues to offer no-KYC accounts to this day. yet the feds never took down bitfinex or tried to arrest its owners. the feds work in mysterious ways, and CFTC probes often end without incident. until the hammer actually comes down and arrests get made and domains get seized, it's tough to know whats gonna happen.
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I am not a lawyer but I wonder how could one country legally seize a domain of a company which is governed by the separate laws of a different sovereign country? bitmex operates from a .com domain, which is managed by verisign, who consistently obeys takedown requests from the USA government. the domain could easily be seized if they wanted. We also know that the services of BitMex are not offered to the citizens of the United States. With all these information, is it legally valid that the USA filed civil and criminal cases against the entity and its top officers, respectively, for violations of the US Bank Secrecy Act, in particular their failure to gather personal identity information of their users as well as the information of their transactions? the question is whether they offered services to USA customers. just because they put it in their terms doesn't really mean anything. whether they actually enforced those terms, and whether IP address alone is sufficient to determine customer location, are what matters. that's what this case is about. If there are Americans found to be trading on BitMex then they're the ones who should be charged under the laws of the USA. it's not illegal for USA customers to trade on bitmex. it is illegal for bitmex to offer its services to USA customers. big difference.
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true, but HSBC also has all the rubber stamp banking licenses they need, and they collect KYC for transactions of remotely significant size. they at least pretend to comply with the law. bitmex on the other hand flouted the law pretty openly. i was always wondering if the feds would test the theory that geo-blocking alone (no KYC) is insufficient to block USA customers. now i've got my answer. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) I think binance is hosted from Singapore, I'm not sure about bybit but it'll be interesting to see if anything can happen to those two offering the same thing.... binance at least has some AML procedures in place, and they only allow 2 BTC worth of daily withdrawals from unverified accounts. bitmex had no such controls in place and had also been offering its services for years longer than binance. i've also heard binance is fairly responsive to requests from the USA government, which could play in their favor. these could all be reasons why bitmex is getting targeted and not binance. bybit is too small and young to be on the radar IMO, but i do think going after bitmex like this is a "warning shot" from the feds, intended to scare non-compliant exchanges into blocking USA customers and mandating KYC.
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Wait isn't this the same things that the big banks just got caught doing for foreign nationals coming into the united states?
Just taking a stab in the dark here but I could probably guess the number of HSBC bankers knowingly ignoring where funds came from being arrested still stands at 0? true, but HSBC also has all the rubber stamp banking licenses they need, and they collect KYC for transactions of remotely significant size. they at least pretend to comply with the law. bitmex on the other hand flouted the law pretty openly. i was always wondering if the feds would test the theory that geo-blocking alone (no KYC) is insufficient to block USA customers. now i've got my answer. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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Looks like fake news because the Bitmex website is still working and trading ongoing.
this press release looks pretty real to me: https://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/8270-20i'm sure the feds could seize the domain if they wanted to---it's a .com domain. they may not have because they didn't wanna look impotent, since there is no way to get their hands on bitmex's wallets. filing charges and arresting one of the owners is the DOJ's way of prodding bitmex into voluntarily dealing with them. crazy times. the wild west era really is coming to an end. i guess this is why bitmex was rolling out mandatory KYC. they felt the walls closing in.
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As I said above, even if the keys are passed on, the FBI will still be looking to seize the wallets. Withdraw anything on BitMex as soon as possible. Yet another reason to start using DEXs.
are there DEXs that offer 100x leverage yet? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) if there are, i can't imagine they compare to bitmex's market depth. Bitmex mass withdrawals might occur similar to a bank run after release of this news, I reckon.
over 32k bitcoins were withdrawn from bitmex in their latest withdrawal batch, after the news dropped. based on this estimate, that's in the range of 20% of their total holdings. https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/79670/32000-bitcoin-withdrawn-bitmex-government-chargesMore than 32,000 bitcoin, currently worth about $335 million, has been withdrawn from BitMEX in less than 24 hours after the U.S. government filed charges against the crypto derivatives exchange’s owners.
BitMEX currently still holds between 135,000 and 170,000 bitcoin, meaning many of its customers are staying put — at least for now.
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Gemini said the move makes it the first regulated exchange to offer this feature. Gemini's rival, Coinbase, does not yet support shielded ZEC withdrawals.
A Gemini spokesperson told The Block that the exchange has been able to implement this feature following "ongoing conversations with regulators and further education on privacy-enabling cryptos."
When asked how would Gemini trace fund movements via shielded ZEC addresses, the spokesperson said: "Gemini maintains a record of every withdrawal that leaves our system. While we have full transparency into the flows at this point, once the funds are in the shielded pool — and at that point encrypted — we no longer have insights and we don’t track customers’ withdrawals after they leave." this came out of left field, especially coming from gemini. i'm particularly surprised to hear that regulators tacitly gave gemini approval to do this since monitoring customer withdrawals after they leave the exchange has become part and parcel to exchange AML and risk analysis procedures. if zcash's anonymity set is adequate, then allowing shielded withdrawals prevents that entirely. doesn't it? i am curious though since zcash doesn't use mandatory private transactions---how strong is its anonymity set for a typical shielded transaction? how does it compare to monero in that sense?
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Damn,,, not available for me because I cannot Apple:( My question is why are they building something like this for Apple when they know most of us only use cheaper Android? I get it, but why not two versions. Looks cool and Blockstream is cool but I did not expect they would just leave out their biggest customer base by doing iOS.
they aren't leaving you out. the android app just hasn't been released yet. from their press release: Blockstream Green supports all major operating systems, while AQUA will be mobile-only—launched for iOS today, with android to follow. And while we're at it, has anyone here actually tried Liquid?
bitfinex is the only exchange i use that supports it, so i never got around to trying it---didn't have anywhere to send L-BTC. i think it's mostly useful for arbitrage traders. i guess it could also be a cheap way for traders to remove their assets from the exchange every day.
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Thoughts. Seems more and more "whales' are getting into BTC
Many are buying up the supply of Bitcoin. Which in turn would make it harder for other people to get.
IF all the supply is bought up. It would make it very hard for others to get BTC.
Now if the whales are buying Whole Bitcoins etc.
Then the value of some of us who just have 0.00054 BTC have little value in the long term? little value in bitcoin terms perhaps, but if the entire supply of bitcoins is being bought up by whales, then the dollar value of your 0.00054 BTC will significantly appreciate. it's only worth 5 bucks now. imagine if 1 BTC = $1 million though. it'll be worth $540! it's simply a matter of supply and demand---strong demand brings higher prices.
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These hackers are stupid enough to take away a handful of Bitcoin and mostly ERC20 tokens.
1k bitcoins is certainly not nothing. they took what they could---everything in the hot wallets. there's nothing stupid about that! thankfully kucoin didn't have that much in their hot wallets, besides tokens. Foolish people who trust tokens ERC20! Such "freezing" indicates that there is no decentralization... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) that's both good and bad---good in cases of hacks and thefts, bad if you actually need censorship resistance. with money like bitcoin, censorship resistance is important. with ICO/security tokens, that's less true IMO. different trust/security models for different use cases.
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And we have out first channel win ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fx5xdETY.jpg&t=663&c=5vd0oz8wMNOAwQ) Taking down the big BTC ticket nicely done! it seems like the grind is beginning to pay off. you playing the BIG BTC next weekend? Please follow to help me out. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) too lazy to create a twitch account this second, but i plan to! you make me wanna get back to playing. it's been a solid month since i even played in our forum series, let alone some real MTTs....
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dang, can't believe i missed 4 weekends in a row! life has been crazy lately. even if i manage to play the last 3 qualifiers, i'll need a miracle to get into the final. no worries, i'll at least ship the runner's up tourney. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) congrats on taking it down last week @arallmuus!
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Kucoin is the 16th biggest crypto exchange, according to CMC, so this incident is unlikely to be an exist scam. Besides, keeping their customers updated is a good sign. ~$150M is too much money even for them,though, and am not sure if what they have in their insurance fund will be enough to cover it. Maybe this hack will not cause them to completely shutdown but, surely, it will seriously affect their business and it will take them too long to recover. one thing that provides some hope is that the majority of value stolen (by far) was in ERC-20 tokens---many of which are extremely illiquid and can't be liquidated easily through DEXs. and since they are centrally issued tokens, they can be blacklisted and recovered somewhat easily. for example, ~20% of the entire amount hacked ($36 million) is in the "alchemy" ACOIN token. kucoin is listed on CMC as the only market for this token! there are $150 million in ERC-20 tokens just sitting in the hack address: https://etherscan.io/address/0xeb31973e0febf3e3d7058234a5ebbae1ab4b8c23a lot of that can be recovered IMO. heck, $20 million of the value in that ETH address was already frozen by tether, with another $13 million being frozen on EOS. so hopefully between their insurance fund and token issuers blacklisting/freezing funds, this is something kucoin can recover from. we'll see!
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