It's a get-rich-quick scheme that uses "medical patients" . . .
If we're gonna bring out "medical patients", since that's clearly what all this is about anyway, right, how is that any different than what CCN did in its early days. I recall a lot of "medical patients" at NWGT coming out and condemning the representations you made early on that CCN was backed by the 1000s of Users of NWGT who were ready, willing and able to use and transact with CCN. Based on that news, CCN saw some early success and a spike rise in price. That "representation" turned out to be a pretty fantastic lie too, didn't it? I'd bet that less than 5% of the Users at NWGT (at the time) had ever even heard of crypto enough to know what CCN was all about. So CCN's statements that it had a community backing was, in fact, a lie. People invested based on that lie, people made money based on that lie and I'm sure you and the other Devs profited from that lie, either in sales of CCN or growth in CCN supporters......SO SCANDALOUS!! When you shoved the tipping feature down NWGT Users' throats, many of them spoke out. Many of them wanted NOTHING TO DO WITH CCN, and felt you were "selling them out" to make a buck! Many of the more vocal contributors of that community had dissented, had expressed themselves only to be banned from NWGT, a place they helped grow through their contributions. Some of them even went so far as to come to this shit-hole of a forum to spread news and warn others of your less-than professional conduct. Things start getting dicey at around the 18th or 19th page when Lemonhoko starts re-hashing his side of the story -- guess what happened to that ANN thread -- yep, you guessed it, closed and then replaced with a self-moderated one. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482425.360 Those vocal dissenters took many other vocal contributors with them in the process. As a result, you polarized your own precious community, just as you are doing here with the larger cannibis-crypto community. Well done! Well, you make a good point that we did advertise NWGT as a potential userbase for CCN. Unfortunately, due to things that had nothing to do with Cannacoin there was already a lot of bad blood and drama and it unfolded around the time we were adding tipping features to NWGT. However, you don't know the facts about how many NWGT supporters we did have and continue to have behind us. So, it's not a lie. Don't take the words of a few pissed-off folks that were banned from NWGT before this all started as the general opinion of the entire group. |
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You did much more that just put "your credibility on the line", you dragged CCN and its supporters with you. If you want CCN to be treated as "CannaShares" and "investors" to be treated as "shareholders", and if the convo is now moving towards what "legal / business remedies" would be available, as shareholders, we could demand that you step down for flagrantly putting the good name of CCN into disrepute during your "personal" quests for transparency from other coins / projects in the industry.
But since no Cannashares have been issued on the blockchain and Cannacoin is still just a protocol at the moment, what you are saying is hot-air. Nobody is telling you to buy CCN. We've never hyped CCN ever or told anyone to buy CCN. Go look at the CannabisCoin thread prior to Oct 20th and then decide who is the one creating false expectations. It's a get-rich-quick scheme that uses "medical patients" and literally has a poster-child on the main website. Take a step back and open your eyes. |
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any number of possible defenses are available....the one, which I'm sure none of you "Crypto-people" would accept is, this was an "oversight". Given everything else that was going on and all his other efforts, traveling, meeting, doing PR, training, etc . . . he didn't think about it.
"I forgot" is probably the most likely defense.
Technically, these coins didn't come from a "pre-mine" per se, did they? They were the result of coins left over from an algo-switch.
Technically, they did come from the pre-mine, and their distribution was not accounted for.
I won't get into everything that could be brought up to defend a claim for libel. Facts were presented, coins were burned and yet the libel of scam artist, fraud, thief still continued. A jury will likely be satisfied that an issue was presented and dealt with accordingly. D9's claim for libel would come after all of that -- i.e. dragging CANN and D9 through the mud after the facts and the burning coins.
I never directly accused D9 of fraud, those were other people's words, not mine.
Again, I urge James and Tokyopotato to stop this nonsense for the good of CCN. If you wish to continue, fine, but please start using a different alias when representing CCN....please do something to fix the damage your actions have done to CCN's good name.
Point taken. We certainly put our credibility on the line and took the brunt of the collateral damage by presenting the information for people. |
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I've urged James and Patrick to stop this nonsense. I am a practicing attorney and know a thing or two about libel/slander. Clearly James and Patrick don't know the definitions because quite frankly D9 would have a strong case against them. Facts may have been presented, but the conclusions were drawn based on pure speculation.
When did we ever libel or slander anyone? The blockchain does not lie. We presented all the facts. I am sorry this does not fit with everyone's version of the events. Anyone can see the information in front of them and read it. Part of the reason this got out of control, is because the CANN community tried to deny everything and yell "FUD". It was never FUD from the get-go, it was facts that were intentionally being buried and ignored by "the powers that be". If that's not true, then why did he make the wrong move every single time? Literally, everything he did after the blockchain data was exposed was to act like an innocent victim. It's the same thing politicians do. If he had just come out and told the truth right away, this would be far less damaging. |
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Halving does nothing to the PoW expense, I have explained the PoW expense is a function of Bitcoin marketcap.
After the 1st halving, the PoW expense actually increased significantly. Therefore, your theory is invalid.
I don't want any crazy Bitcoin price, but I legitimately think without PoW, we would be most likely close to $5000 per coin now. We have spent a lot of money on PoW in the past 5 years.
It does not reduce the expense? You're saying it costs Bitcoin $500 million a year right now. If the block reward were to halve tomorrow. It would not cost Bitcoin $250 million a year afterwards (to sustain price)? The price of Bitcoin has to increase for the network to remain as strong as it is. Otherwise, it's likely for it to become unprofitable after halving until the hashrates come down. |
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And againDev has more coins than the original 14million claimed! Add another 6.6+ Million!
Here is the block chain analysis of the pre-mined data of this coin. If anyone can provide scrypt blockchain and ill will then furthur give you 100% confirmation of all transactions made on the blockchain. As you can see, there are 1,465,379 CANN coins directly linked to bittrex from the Dev teams pre-mine not paid out to miners. Secondly you will see 5,202,379 Not yet redeemed just as you saw linked to the 29 burn addresses .  You can see there was activity on the following 5 million moved from pre-mine can CANN wallet 28 minutes after the burn that occurred between 1AM - 2:16AM PST on OCT 22nd. This looks as is someone is hiding something...  
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The thread is moderated for just this reason. The thread is normally locked to prevent posts like yours...you managed to slip in a comment when I was adding your info to the watch list.
You & CannaCoin have been accused of launching a deliberate smear campaign against a competing coin and instead of handling it in a mature manner you've chosen to once again to go on the attack.
History does repeat itself and you've proven again that you lack the ability to function in the crypto space without slanderous attacks. I posted in the CannaCoin thread because I had heard from a number of users that the thread was being over moderated. Your response was to delete my post and send an immature PM.
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Looks like the Crypto Vigilante Group is nothing more than the CANN bagholders club whose dev was caught embezzling funds.
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The thread is moderated for just this reason. The thread is normally locked to prevent posts like yours...you managed to slip in a comment when I was adding your info to the watch list.
You & CannaCoin have been accused of launching a deliberate smear campaign against a competing coin and instead of handling it in a mature manner you've chosen to once again to go on the attack.
History does repeat itself and you've proven again that you lack the ability to function in the crypto space without slanderous attacks. I posted in the CannaCoin thread because I had heard from a number of users that the thread was being over moderated. Your response was to delete my post and send an immature PM.
Do you have any comprehension of how stupid you are? |
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I was able to post something because he is too stupid to post a locked thread from the beginning You can clearly see in the second image where he deleted my posts and "over-moderated" his own self-moderated thread:
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This is a warning to everyone. A new scam has launched. Run by another anonymous person. This scam demands that self-moderated threads be reported for moderation. CryptoVigilanteGroup has launched a locked/self-moderated thread in order to give no recourse for those accused of scams. I was able to get one post in before he locked it. As such this thread could be considered libelous. Bitcointalk clearly states this at the top of all self-moderated threads: This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic..Anyone that moderates their own self-moderated thread is free to do so and this scam artist is a moron who can't read and is attempting to defame victims without any recourse: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=768815.0With the proliferation of scam coins & shady devs it's time to take a stand. We have now added FUD campaign organizers to our target lists. Devs who launch FUD campaigns against other coins will be exposed as well. I have started this thread with the sole intention of exposing shady practices within crypto and putting the spotlight on those whose intent is less that honorable. I should add we are only interested in alts.
I'm using a new account to avoid the obvious backlash from affecting my regular account.I commend CryptoAsian and others like him that reward forthcoming devs teams with a trust level based upon the amount of transparency and cooperation displayed. Think of CVG's as similar except they reward victims of shady devs with a profile of said shady dev containing as much personal information as possible. Until there are laws in place to prevent/punish criminal activity then public exposure/shaming will have to do. Join me in saying enough! The strategy being to create a database linking all known accounts and personal data available on shady devs to eventually be able to positively identify and release all personal data into the crypto world. Hopefully a few personal visits from those who have lost btc will deter these bums from trying the scam again and act as a warning to those hoping to scam in the future. The results of this thread should equal a good dose of DOXing. Personal dev team information should be pm'd to me for verification. After verification, details will be posted in the OP in the following format. Coin Name: ScammyCoin Ann Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/correspondingthreadDevs BTCtalk name: ScammyDev Other Coins Dev Associated With: TheifCoin, DupeCoin Social Media Info: FB, TW, Reddit, ect Additional Identity Info: employer, home address, ect Scam details Scammydev was original dev for dupecoin & ran off with BTC set aside for further development. Scammydev then launched ScammyCoin, dumped premine & disappeared. Current Watch List: Please PM all available info on developers/teams associated with coins listed on watch list and feel free to request the addition of coins with questionable teams behind them... SuperCoin - Thank you to everyone who has contributed info regarding Super, we are in a holding pattern awaiting SuperDev's next move MammothCoin - See above MastCoin GuerillaCoin Current FUD Watch List: Please PM all available info on developers/teams associated with deliberate FUD campaigns... CannaCoin - After many accusations of a deliberate FUD campaign and overly moderated thread(even our post was deleted) CCN has been added. We will now begin accepting any and all DOX type information on all those involved in CannaCoin reserved reserved reserved Help us help the community. Note: Due to those who either do not understand the value or want to stop any progress with their hate filled posts this topic has been locked. Please continue to PM dev information and results will be posted. Thanks Happy & safe trading, CVG |
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Delta9 and CannabisCoin will go down in the crypto history books as one of the most blatant examples of pre-mine theft.
Whether it is ethical or not, it's him who spent the money to build that grow facility and it's him who created the coin, he stole from no one. Solid12345, why don't you go find out the truth about that and report back. |
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Trade and use Potcoin on Cannapay!  |
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Cannacoin store:  Cannapay Beta Home:  Cannapay Beta web-wallet:  Cannapay Beta trade:  NWGT vBulletin integration:  Let's get back to what CCN is developing. |
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Buddy, you are a liar. Liars don't get respect from us. Expect censorship on our thread when you post blatant lies without any proof. |
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CANN developer admits he owns another 5 million pre-mined coins with "no plans to burn".  Now the entire story has been told. Even after hiding the premine, then being outed and burning 14 million, DeltaNineDev admits he still has 6% of the total coin supply from CANN pre-mine. |
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What strain is the bonus seed?
We actually have Special Kush 1  and Special Queen  Both varieties are from Royal Queen Seeds bank. If you are eligible for Bonus Seed request you can choose at your own choice. Cheers. Looking good so far guys! |
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Both communities are screwing each other, congrats. When we stop acting like children rooting for their favorite baseball team, maybe we'll start attracting additional investment. I own stakes in both coins, I'm embarrassed by the behavior of both communities. I know, 'you're a fuder', 'screw you', etc.. etc.. I understand there's legitimate concerns from both communities, copy/pasting charts over and over again doesn't help anyone.
You're essentially scaring off the investors and only securing the hardcore follower. You'll do what you want, it's just a shame. If I was one of the developers of the newer coins that are now slapping us all around in market cap, I'd have a good laugh. The more fighting, the more profit their communities will realize. Complaints are fine, accusations are fine, acting like kids is not profitable. I'm not looking for friends, I'm not screaming $5 coins, I'm here for investment.
I understand these communities are driven by very smart individuals, most probably still in their early 20s as a whole. It's expected but a damn shame we're destroying ourselves. I love what Cannapay is doing in the development side of the house, I love how CannabisCoin is at least hosting events. Please think about the moderate investors, people with actual money that both communities are scaring away. I said my peace, I'm sure bold letters and endless graphics will still commence. Shitcoin this, fudder that. Is this the image we want to draw in investors? Not pump and dumpers, but actual investors.
Some communities never learn. The ones that do, well, they remain in the top 10, top 15.
We entirely agree with you on everything. This was very important to investigate the CANN premine for the crypto community. As people can see, the blockchain provides transparency for a coin. Unfortunately, Delta9 had a lot of dirty laundry that needed to be cleaned up. It was not personal. It was simply time to shout louder than the people who yell "FUD" and show them the truth about their blockchain. We regret that we had to be the ones to bring it to light - however - it was the right thing to do. None of this affects Cannapay or Cannacoin. The future of our platforms and CCN is huge. Our vision is massive. We have so many great developments coming up for people to experience. We hope to repair our relationship with D9 in the future if he does indeed decide to burn the remaining premined coins from CANN. It's very important for us to provide transparency for our coin and projects and it should be obvious to everyone here that we mean business. Cheers, Patrick Your persistence, and you belonging to the development team for CCN, shows that a coin does not have to be a scam to be self destructive. I have not seen this year one coin that is not some fly-by-night operation continually shoot itself in the foot with constant hysterics, hyperbole and outright envy. I have not and will not spend one single satoshi on CCN. With representation such as yours, there is much more to distrust over allowing representation like you. I have my bag for CANN for the long haul, with several other coins. For better or worse. You have proven that CCN can not be trusted in that you contribute nothing to develop or help bring forward CCN in a constructive way. In the long haul, you are going to get what you deserve and the charts reflect that. Have a good day. Wrong. Cannacoin will be seen as the team that single-handedly developed some of the biggest cryptocurrency platforms for the Cannabis industry, and never premined a coin to do it. We have earned more respect from the Bitcoin community for our development and transparency than DeltaNine will ever get. That's a fact. |
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