No resistance upwards, let it fly to Nr 2 spot! First coin to offer its own ecosystem and is anonymous!!
Yeah, someone ate the mintpal wall in one bite. 2014-08-19 18:25:42 BUY 0.00486000 4075.00867253 19.80454214 It was me, there were like 10 buy orders for a cheaper price, but I just had to make sure it was me who got that nice one  Very happy with my purchase Congrats, you got a great deal! I did not have my bitcoins ready so quickly |
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That's pretty newsworthy outside of cryptoland too.. Come on... 5BTC being cleared... takes forever! |
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I feel ike I'm on some-kinda, MN shit list.
Last MN payment : 2014-08-10 - ugh
When I complained about getting 1 payment in 20 days you told me that everything irons out in the long-term & to STFU remember?  |
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so how does this scam work ? they can sent you an email which (when opened) can abuse a locked wallet ? And make a transfer inside that locked wallet to another wallet ?
I'd say it is a normal executable trojan stealing wallet.dat files |
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Please post the link you downloaded the wallet from.
1) It was not quizzie who lost the DRKs 2) The PC was already infected when he got the wallet Edit: OK - that one... shame the bloody scammer got someone  |
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No we have nothing to hide. And trolls will troll elsewhere anyway. Rather be able to refute them.
I'm with you. I'm not able to follow the thread because there is much fud, but I still prefer it like it is than moderated. +1. Takes too much time to filter the shit out |
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i have struggled with wither or not this thread should get locked. And as annoying as it may seem. it seems refreshing to know everything is out in the open. if people are serious long term smart investors they wont invest via Trolls dribble or flag barers or pump n dampers. they will do market segment research. i believe we are in a far better position now then May. We need to stay on message and ask tough questions help come up with solutions if need be and more importantly now concentrate on rebuilding our community.
Agreed. Everything has always been open (except a small chunk of the code, for obvious reasons, but that will be opened too when it's ready) and that's the way it should stay. I'm not sure the community needs rebuilding so much as just expanding - we're all still here because we believe financial privacy is important and DRK is currently the best solution. There's a depth of talent working on DRK that is quite remarkable. Agree. Influx of newcomers will be seen after the remaining bugs cleared, code reviewed, open sourced - resulting in increased price and renewed interest from the media |
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A quick observation: That 40 BTC sell wall at 0.75 partially causing the price we see now has disappeared
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The price is rising again, we're back to 0.0055
I agree. Now the last weak hand we need to get rid of is camosol. He is a horrible, negative person. I hold him responsible for at least a few million in market cap decrease, by hijacking this thread with his repetitive negativity and aggression, just because some community members would not acknowledge his issue. This cry baby should really get over himself, the possible issue is tracked in JIRA and will be looked at. Camosol, please dump your coins and never come back. We don't want you. Your attitude belongs at cloakcoin. I will be more than happy to lose another million in market cap due to you dumping your coins. It's for the best of Darkcoin on the long run. Well said. He caused enough damage with his rumblings, he is useless. +1 Totally killed RC4 for a lot of us, could have just logged a job with the dev's and allowed the rest of us to enjoy this nice moment. There was always going to be bugs, but he was a disrespectful black hole of negativity. +1 Well said. At the pivotal points in DRK development the last thing that is needed is his emotional diarrhoea covering this forum. All his issues could have been much more pragmatically and efficiently solved at darkcointalk |
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Very sad day. I really, really liked drk.
It is really interesting that some 400btc trade volume has such an impact on the 2.3 million coins.. The amounts currently traded are joke and 100 BTC thrown into the currency may cause it to loose value or jump by dozens of %.... |
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Tor is compromised, don't mention it. Also, I think we're moving away from "anonymous" in any of our PR material. Use "privacy" exclusively.
Trust me it is not. There is not a single LE investigation that would track anyone on TOR unless he did a stupid mistake (usually related to browser vulnerabilities). Tor is trusted and rightfully so and I would not be afraid hidden or open association. Good point about privacy! |
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Suggestion - if you think it is good, improve it... if it is shit, leave it  SCRIPT FOR THE Darkcoin video ad v. 0.1 <CHEESY FAMILY THEME> Would you like to: buy the book, the movie, the flight? send money to your family? have access to your money while travelling? <EXCITED VOICE> With Bitcoin, you can do it almost for free, instantly and anonymously! <FADE TO BLACK> WAIT! Bitcoin is everything BUT anonymous - all transaction is publicly visible. Your family, co-workers or government can track EXACTLY: 1. when you paid, 2. whom you paid 3. and how much do you paid ! <CLOSE UP ON ANALYST CREATING VISUAL ANALYSIS LINKING PEOPLE TO WALLETS> You are doing nothing wrong so you do not mind exposing your finances to everyone, right? <DARKCOIN LOGO SHINES IN THE DARKNESS> Actually, you may mind and if you do, give Darkcoin a chance. Darkcoin has a fully working system of over 1,000 servers replicating core functionality of Tor making your transactions untraceable. <ANIMATION OF AN INFORMATION TRAVELLING THROUGH INTERNET> The anonymity of transactions was closely examined and verified by independent industry experts. <THE END> Darkcoin.<AND NOW THE KEY MOTTO – CHOOSE ONE> Because privacy mattersOR Keep your privacy to yourself
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Guys, don't you think 8 rounds is an overkill? 4 should be the max.
You see, many people will automatically go for highest level of anonymity and they will complain how costly and long process it is.
Also, the fee is too large as it is - no need to bribe the miners as it is not really an extra work for them - otherwise they would just be solving mathematical riddles so 0.001 is fine to prevent bloating traffic.
Yeah, but 0.001 didn't work. After being raised to 0.0125 most people have reported success. Furthermore, as long as people know in advance that 8 rounds cost more in time and money then if they set it like that then they have nobody to blame by themselves. Thanks, missed the point about the 001... Regarding to the 8 rounds - well, we can have a setting up to 100 and some people would blindly go for that... The reason to limit it to 4 is that any higher number is a plain overkill. |
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A speculative question - do you think mining could be replaced altogether by MN doing the transactions? :-) I do not see any issue apart from DDoS that is very unlikely to hit all the MNs anyway.
Personally I love the MN concept - which leads me tho the question what other use is planned for MN? Any official word on this?
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Guys, don't you think 8 rounds is an overkill? 4 should be the max.
You see, many people will automatically go for highest level of anonymity and they will complain how costly and long process it is.
Also, the fee is too large as it is - no need to bribe the miners as it is not really an extra work for them - otherwise they would just be solving mathematical riddles so 0.001 is fine to prevent bloating traffic.
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I try to mine darkcoin and lose money  Why have to mine anyway? all good coins have now PoS and have use no miners to make new coins. stake system seem more sustainable in years to come. so why is better to pay to mine coins and use power? OMG.... why do you mine if you lose money? Use a bloody calculator if you can not compute the pluses and minuses yourself! Of course the miners are important but the coin would work exactly as well with much lower number of miners so do us a favour and stop moaning. Mine whatever pays you best! |
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Just a reminder : If DRK is severely going down is only because of YOU, especially actual and potential MN owners.
Yes, you read well.
87% of the coins belongs to adresses with more than 1,000 DRK.
I can't read the people finding excuses like "no fresh money", "no whale", "dumb crypto-community"
Look at the past sell orders : it was multiple of 1000 !
If you want a 100-300 M$, just stop selling during 1 month. It is not the rare sells with 50 Drk that will lead the price down...
The competitors are far behind. Ltc, Doge or even Nxt are in trouble ! What are you waiting for ?
People need and search for "same thing like BTC but private". Fundamentals are here. We do not need geekeries, we need to figure out how many rounds we should use (catastrophic option leading to uncertainty and doubt : "Did I well or enough rounds", "Is my coins anonymyzed ?")
Pool Police ?! What we really need is a TOP 100 Police or dark soldiers who list who amongst rich list is selling or trying to day-trade !!
Just try not to sell during on month and look how magically the price will soar !
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Just perusing my other holdings (this one VIA) when I see this... "It turns out we were pretty much instrumental in why DRK was added to Bitfinex. In addition to that, I introduced Evan Duffield to their legal counsel who is currently helping them structure the Darkcoin Foundation (which will soon be announced) of which I am a founding member. " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699278.msg8362123#msg8362123Darkcoin Foundation, eh? JL looks like bullshit |
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How is posting a chart from Mintpal Fudding?
I was contemplating making a DRK purchase but the chart looks rather ominous. Apparently all you look at is price. There are many other factors to take into account when making an investment. Maybe that's why I make profit most of the time. It doesn't matter how cheap you think DRK is right now. What matters is where it's going.
Agreed, obviously |
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Is RC4 working properly ?
That's the puzzling thing about it. RC4 is actually ok with darksend round = 1. The price drop surprised me. Shitty timing... its been a bloodbath week for lots of cryptos... though in the big picture of 12 month cycle... not to bad...maybe except for ltc. im still way up... and that is why... long term investing in fundamentals always wins. Its not just the timing. Its the non-existing outlook. Markets always need something to look out for, some kind of phantasy. That's what makes them advance. For instance if RC4 would have announced as a fixed date and time, we would have seen a much bigger price rally. People would have set up countdown timers, tweets about upcoming RC4 would have been made etc etc THATS whats drives markets! You need always to deliver outlooks! At the moment we have no outlook BEYOND RC4. The market recognizes that we will soon have a working anon, nevertheless: "What comes next?" No matter what comes next it should be communicated early. OUTLOOK boys, thats all that matters in markets. Outlook BEYOND RC4. The outlook is ip obfuscation I doubt you will be able to build a rally upon that. Strengthen the anonymity further is good but thats not whats been looked after at the moment. We need some phantasy/goal BEYOND a good and working anonymity. Whats comes next? Today I bought back in DRK (short term investment?). I mined DRK in the early days and cashed out when it had the massive pump. Today I have holdings in DRK, Cloak (my main holding) and BTC. Cloak has also got anon and got a massive list of projekts, super active devs whos always in cloakcoin IRC channel, they are working 24/7 to make the coin useful for other then speculation. I have tried to figure what the DRK devs are up to other than make the coin annon, but I havent found out any other projekts? I had a rather big stake in Vertcoin and mined it from start, back then it was "ASIC resistant" who where the tech who got the coin pumped. I got a feeling that DRK may bleed out (just as Vertcoin did when they promoted "ASIC resistant") if they havent got more plans. So please tell me why DRK is a better coin in the long run than Cloak or XC? OK, will give you my key reasons: 1) DRK is the first truly anon in here - anonymity is what was missing here and will be increasingly sought after not only by cybercriminals, money launderers, but community in general. 2) DRK has a catchy name clearly outlining its purpose. Don't laugh - it is an important factor and reason why plenty of other nonsensical names are not understood by investors. Sending a clear message is crucial in this messy altcoin environment. 3) Active Devs implementing real changes, increasing profesionalisation of the development, active community (proved by largest number of pages on bitcointalk). The design of wallet and promotion will be significantly facilitated by a number of capable members of the community. 4) Development is transparent & progress can be seen on darkcointalk. There is no effort to conceal the issues and massage the community with PR. 5) What I see as a key thing - the masternode concept that replicates P2P TOR-like solution implementing POS which will be not only key feature for assuring anonymity but will also lead to P2P services with benefits we may not currently foresee. Also, a prospect of continuous income from operating a MN is tempting for me as well as for the other investors. 6) There is a positive outlook with Kristov review in line and since he has not sold his coins yet I do not expect serious issues there. Making the Dark Open sourced, ironing non-critical issue, implementing cool wallet design, promotion among chinese exchanges.... Even though it looks a bit bleak at the moment I believe good times are ahead of us. My only regret is I discovered DRK too late to reap the great early prices and too soon so I can not buy much more at the moment 1. Agreed 2. Agreed 3. Ok, but I feel its "only" anon tech and its still a work in progress. 4,5. Is this 100% trustless like cloakcoin annontec? I hear nodes can be compromized if u have enough nodes? There is sooo much FUD going on so its hard to keep track.. Cloakcoin Is already building Onemarket (like ebay fully decentralized) 6. Well Its better to have some money in the most promising coins. At the moment Cloak is Dirt cheap so I have the largest investment there, got BTC and DRK atm, looking at XC. Yep, currently most of the development is about anon and yes, it is trustless. There is an extremely small possibility of tracking the transaction if you get your hands on high number of nodes but in practice that never happens - that is why TOR which is suffering from the same theoretical weakness is used by masses without ever being compromised (I am talking about core infrastructure, not the TOR bundle, where browser can be subject to vulnerabilities). The design of the new wallet is in the advanced stage and looks extremely user friendly, nothing like the current implementation. I will get a few hundred cloaks if it gets below 0005 - was thinking about buying it today but then it went up again. |
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