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401  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Got two broken dragon miners, attemptive scam, please help! on: March 17, 2015, 10:25:07 PM
I feel like the OP is missing some info.
402  Other / Meta / Re: CanaryInTheMine is further abusing the trust system [Edit] on: March 17, 2015, 08:45:56 PM
Thank you. I totally missed that link Smiley

Edit: It just comes up as a blank white page for me.

Your high depth causes the page to time out. You'll have to temporarily reduce that.

Understood. Thanks for the explanation Smiley
403  Other / Meta / Re: CanaryInTheMine is further abusing the trust system [Edit] on: March 17, 2015, 08:27:33 PM
You can check Hierarchial view if you scroll all the way down on the Trust settings page, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full

Thank you. I totally missed that link Smiley

Edit: It just comes up as a blank white page for me.
404  Other / Meta / Re: CanaryInTheMine is further abusing the trust system [Edit] on: March 17, 2015, 08:14:25 PM
Neither one is on my list... am I looking at the wrong thing here??

I plan to expand default trust list with members having some responsibilities (i.e. identify abuses or scams etc...). will post in Meta later.

Thanks for clarifying that. I guess I still don't know how to figure out who is on whose Trust list.
405  Other / Meta / Re: CanaryInTheMine is further abusing the trust system [Edit] on: March 17, 2015, 06:58:35 PM
Canary, I like you, man. You're OG and you've always been cool with me (well, my main account anyway). But taking a look at your Trust list raises some eyebrows. Leaving a positive rating for someone you've traded with is fine -- I do it myself sometimes. However, it appears that you're actually adding these people to your Trust list, which is completely separate than your Trust ratings. I'm not sure if were aware of that dichotomy, as the Trust system itself is fairly confusing, and I'm embarrassed to say that I wasn't aware of the difference until several months after the Trust system went live.

Here's one branch of your Trust list that might need a 2nd look:

CanaryInTheMine -> Trynmpo -> PlusLegit

The latter two have been decisively outed as scammers:

Trynmpo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=925125.0
PlusLegit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=576101.0 (as well as a bevy of other scam accusation threads)

IMHO you should really start off with a clean slate. Wipe your Trust list and add only those you actually trust. I usually ask myself, "Could I confidently send 500 BTC to this user and trust that they'd send it back without hesitation?" If the answer to that is, "yes," then they're a candidate for my own Trust list (Depth 1 I guess).

Regards,
TC
406  Economy / Lending / Re: 3.5K BTC Loan needed, offering 30% Interest, loan duration 2 weeks... on: March 17, 2015, 02:54:36 PM
I'm no math whiz, but wouldn't it be cheaper to just secure a loan from a bank @ ~5%?
407  Other / Off-topic / Re: Complete the sentence... "I would sell all my Bitcoins if..." on: March 17, 2015, 07:44:12 AM
ITT: A bunch of people who would rather have analog fiat than Bitcoin.
408  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: i have 0.40Bitcoins for netteller or skrill on: March 17, 2015, 06:16:58 AM
this user is  a scammer for 10 usd lol

So just reverse your Skrill payment.
409  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: i have 0.40Bitcoins for netteller or skrill on: March 17, 2015, 04:17:50 AM
You could just PM me for escrow.
410  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Want to sell .40687536 on: March 17, 2015, 03:04:34 AM
I hope you use escrow this time.
411  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Was I scammed? on: March 15, 2015, 10:00:26 PM
A quick Google search of EcurrencyXchanga.com shows that it's nothing but a scam site. My sig even references it as a scam site.
412  Other / Meta / Re: My account was neg trusted by Tomatocage for no good reason. on: March 15, 2015, 04:17:55 PM
Oh wow you're actually a real account? I thought you were a PM hit & run impostor. I'll go ahead and change your rating, sorry about that Smiley
413  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Marcchernandez scammed me for $500.00 on: March 14, 2015, 10:58:03 PM
Looks like he is till at it, scammed me for 3 BTC new email address new phone number:

Username: Bitcoinist
Real name:
Email: bitcoinology@aol.com
Phone number: +12133779267

Can you please link the username he used from this forum? Bitcoinist on this forum hasn't logged in since 2013.
414  Economy / Services / Re: [ANN] Tomatocage's Escrow Service on: March 14, 2015, 01:29:52 AM
Yeah, best way to get in touch is by PM'ing me since I usually forget to check this thread.
415  Economy / Goods / Re: Introducing the BitCryptCard on: March 14, 2015, 01:13:04 AM
Ok, lemme just send my coins right on over, brb!
416  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: 40BTC for sale on: March 10, 2015, 11:55:49 PM
I think you guys are arguing a moot point, as his account has likely been abandoned and this transaction will never take place.
417  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning with HitBTC on: March 10, 2015, 11:45:13 PM
This is very similar to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=856071.0

As in that thread, we have here a seemingly unrelated user rushing in apparently trying to help. Also using "dear" in all sorts of weird ways.
418  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: 40BTC for sale on: March 10, 2015, 09:34:01 PM
Huh? I hope you're joking

No.  Not joking.

but if not anyone else willing to deal with OP should check my previous posts:

Saw your posts. The fact that Marc got his hands on funds from this wallet, or that funds that Marc had eventually made their way to this wallet does not concern me.  Unless there is proof that the address used for the signature is under the control of Marc, I'm willing to give the user the benefit of the doubt.

I will, of course, INSIST that either he sends first, or that we use trusted forum escrow.

LMK if you need an escrow. I'll do this one for free.
419  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] BTC via paypal on: March 09, 2015, 07:39:05 PM
I want to do the transaction, but I have to wait next sunday...If you are still interested next sunday, pm me.

Always operate under the assumption that Paypal payments will be charged back later on down the road.
420  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] BTC via paypal on: March 09, 2015, 07:19:12 PM
No offense Tomatocage but I think you should be more confident before leaving a negative review.
We all trust you deeply. I was sure gate11 was a sockpuppet because of this.

@gate11 I should apologize too for being so hard on you.

Anyway I think newbie + PayPal is more than enough not to make this deal.


No offense taken. Most of the time, if someone is out to make a quick buck at the expense of other users, he'll do so in a short amount of time knowing that if he fails, he can simply create another account. Because of this any negative ratings often have to be levied as quickly as possible to mitigate any damage that a scammer might inflict. There are a number of indicators that I go by when evaluating whether someone might be up to no-good or not. However, one's Trust rating (at least for me) is an ongoing process, not an final evaluation. Just because someone might have a negative rating yesterday doesn't necessarily mean they won't redeem themselves tomorrow. And vice versa, just because someone has deep green Trust doesn't mean they won't pull off a scam later on down the road, as we've seen with a few notable cases in the past.
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