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4001  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Can of worms on: October 19, 2012, 10:39:59 PM
Forget about mining for a moment and think about the lottery. As you know (or ought to know), it is statistically almost impossible for any given individual to win the lottery, however, with millions of people playing, it is statistically almost certain that somebody will win. Mining works the same way. Even though if the chances of you solving a block are extremely slim, with a huge number of people mining, some of them are are sure to solve some number of blocks before anyone else, which slightly decreases the average time between blocks, which in turn slightly increases the difficulty, increasing the amount of work needed to attack the network.

Or, to look at it another way, each small-time miner is a piece of straw on the back of the attacker's camel.
4002  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin-Qt will not start on Mac on: October 19, 2012, 02:31:38 AM
I have been thinking my next computer should be a linux box of some sort. For those people who are running linux: do you ever run into this sort of problem, where the hardware you have is unable to run updates to the operating system? Do you ever run into updates to programs that will no longer work on your system?
Nope. Linux was originally designed to run on a 12 MHz i386DX, and the current version still does (though most modern distros with a GUI require a little bit more than that, typically a Pentium II with 128 MB of RAM). Pretty much every device that was ever supported in Linux is either still supported or has an old driver available that still works. One of the (many) reasons I use Linux is that I actually have some old hardware that is no longer supported by other operating systems.

As for program updates requiring a newer version of the OS, that does sometimes happen, though it isn't a problem to keep the OS up to date, even on old hardware.
4003  Other / Off-topic / Re: Change or add on: October 16, 2012, 08:47:41 AM
Please delete or add one image to this séance, and/or lick everyone else in this orgy.
4004  Other / Off-topic / Re: Change or add on: October 15, 2012, 09:28:59 AM
Delete or add one word to this séance, and/or don't post anything else in this thread.
4005  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitium is the fundamental resource that we mine and exchange on: October 14, 2012, 11:52:21 PM
Just be sure you don't accept any coins made from the compound Bitium scamide

ha ha, nice one.

Of course, Cryptium (the generic substance created by any proof-of-work algorithm) has a couple of isotopes discovered already, main ones being Bitium and Litium. I wonder what happens if you mix them...
Nothing. They're almost completely inert and can coexist just fine, though it's likely that only one will ever be really valuable. They also can't be bound to protein molecules, a fact which some people can't seem to grasp. Cryptium is only known to react with elements of the Scamide group (of which Ponzium is the most reactive).
4006  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SourceForge mirror hacked. Bitcoin could be next target. on: October 14, 2012, 10:32:10 AM
Hmmm.. Perhaps a stupid question, but how do you verify the verifying script? Smiley
I'm afraid Ken Thompson has some bad news for you.
4007  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ƀ $ B⃦⃝ ß ฿ Б Ъ Ѣ [BTC] B B⃦ on: October 14, 2012, 10:16:13 AM
And "ß" is really now option that just the sz symbol in German (spoken ss, "sharp S").

Seriously, no one recognizes this as the Greek Beta? I though it should be widely known, at least in science/geek circles. Besides, Beta and Eszett should look different when you have a decent font.
This is a lowercase beta: β
This is a lowercase eszett: ß
This is an uppercase bee: B
This is the numeral eight: 8

These characters all look similar, but are completely different. Try not to get them confused. The character is question is a lowercase eszett, not a lowercase beta.
4008  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are there any prepers here who want training? on: October 14, 2012, 04:50:43 AM
I'm not sure, but I think suturing wounded limbs is only helpful if the limbs in question are still attached to the patient. I had the same problem with those CPR dummies that consist of nothing but a head and torso. I'm pretty sure if a guy has no pulse and isn't breathing after being totally dismembered, any resuscitation efforts are unlikely to be fruitful. Strangely, nobody else in the class seemed to see the logic of my objection. But in the end, I was right. The dismembered dummy never regained consciousness. Cry
4009  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: strongcoin.com ssl issue on: October 13, 2012, 06:03:10 AM
Thanks for the hint, but I really don't wanna use a non secured connection to deal with my money... But at least I can enter the site now, maybe I'll be able to contact some support.
The connection is secured, but the SSL certificate expired yesterday and StrongCoin has yet to renew it, which is... highly improper, but not at all unusual. Many financial institutions allow their SSL certificates to expire, and their users in most cases simply ignore their browser's warnings. I don't know which is more stupid. Either way, I would advise against using StrongCoin until they renew their certificate.
4010  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-10-11 loper-os.org - Bitcoin, or How to Hammer in Nails with a Microscope. on: October 12, 2012, 02:46:47 AM
He has a valid point, though.

4011  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining & Grid Computing on: October 12, 2012, 01:53:17 AM
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...and people will only do if the work accomplished is more valuable than the energy consumed.[sic]

I'm sure that you will agree that this is not true.
The only situation in which this is not true is if people are stealing their electricity, which is not a problem that Bitcoin can address. People who mine when it is not profitable do so because they consider helping the network to be more valuable than their electricity, or they think Bitcoins are undervalued (which are really just two ways of looking at the same thing).

Furthermore, how is solving the Byzantine General's problem helpful (to the world)?
It's not (at least, not directly), and it's not supposed to be. It's helpful to Bitcoin, and that's all that matters. You seem to be extremely confused about what Bitcoin is or should be. It is not, nor is it intended to be, some kind of system to harvest computer power to save the world, or for any other arbitrary purpose. Bitcoin is a currency and a payment system for that currency, and the resources it consumes serve the specific purpose of securing the payment system from various attacks and preventing the currency from being counterfeited. That's it. No other purpose is, or ever will be, served by the mining process.

You might as well ask for bank vault doors that create cancer drugs. Even if it were possible, it doesn't even remotely make sense for bank vault doors to be designed that way. That's simply not their intended function.
4012  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining & Grid Computing on: October 11, 2012, 08:27:19 PM
The purpose of mining is to protect the network, and to reward people who provide security for the network. Nothing else. Bitcoin would be completely useless without the security provided by mining. None of the energy involved in mining is "wasted", as it accomplishes useful work (providing security), and people will only do if the work accomplished is more valuable than the energy consumed. In any case, miners have a direct financial incentive to come up with ways of mining that use as little energy as possible.

I would prefer to see bitcoin mining solving useful problems (while maintaining its secure characteristics)
It solves the Byzantine Generals' Problem using a cryptographic proof-of-work system. This is a useful problem to solve, since it allows Bitcoin nodes to know for certain that the majority of other Bitcoin nodes agree on which transactions took place and in what order, allowing it to determine whether a given transaction is fraudulent or not without requiring a trusted third party (which is the whole point of Bitcoin).

Other problems are in no way useful for providing security and are therefore completely useless to Bitcoin.

instead of just being strictly POW (proof-of-work):
Proof of work is the only thing required or useful to secure the Bitcoin network. Doing anything else would be wasteful and inefficient.
4013  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Thai Baht (฿) has always been the most frequently used Bitcoin symbol right? on: October 11, 2012, 07:34:13 PM
So I wandered off and found a TTF which supports U+20E6 (Code2000) and install it.  After doing so all my other fonts "miraculously" start supporting that character.  *Sigh*.
No they don't. It's just that whenever your computer tries to display a character that is not present in the selected font, it'll try to substitue a font that does have the character (if you actually have such a font installed). Note that a substitute font is only needed for the combining double vertical stroke, so the B will still be displayed in the original font, though the two characters might not align correctly in that case.
4014  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikileaks puts up paywall for documents - minus bitcoin on: October 11, 2012, 07:14:03 AM
WTF are you guys talking about? I'm not seeing any paywall anywhere, and the donate page has a Bitcoin address, same as it always did.
4015  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin scams on: October 11, 2012, 06:56:07 AM
Keep thinking that the us governments reach doesn't exceed us soil.  Even if you ignore the fact that our government works very closely with government agencies in foreign countries, you still have to account for extradition laws. If the government wants you, they will get you eventually. You cant hide in Ecuador or some other non extradition country forever, even assange will be caught eventually and brought to justice. Criminals and the organizations that support them can only escape the governments reach for so long.

Welcome to global government.
You're a funny guy, "SEC agent". You know that?
4016  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Nobel Prize Quantum Physics - The end, is it near? on: October 10, 2012, 08:24:54 PM
Quantum computers are not magical, and their capabilities are well understood. Only certain kinds of public-key cryptography (such as ECDSA as used in Bitcoin) are threatened by quantum computing, however quantum-proof public-key algorithms already exist and Bitcoin could switch over to one of them should the need arise (the only reason they're not being used right now is because they're nowhere near as well-tested as conventional algorithms and so may have other flaws). Symmetric algorithms (such as AES) and hashing algorithms (such as SHA256) are not threatened by quantum computing, and current algorithms will be safe forever unless a flaw is found in the algorithm.
4017  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-10-09 Forbes.com - As Inflation Rages In Iran, Bitcoin Software Not Availab on: October 10, 2012, 07:18:50 AM
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Therefore, the export control determination has to be made by the project’s registered administrator on SourceForge, which for Bitcoin is lead developer Gavin Andresen

Well, I imagine Matonis is a little conflicted at this point, given that he is sitting on the board of The Bitcoin Foundation alongside the chief dev who has blocked Iranians from downloading the software .... seems like there might be a case for a hidden service on Tor mirroring bitcoin "official" repo.
The developers don't have a choice. Bitcoin uses strong cryptography, which, for reasons which don't really make sense, is legally classified as a military weapon under the Wassenaar Arrangement, and therefore illegal to export to "certain" countries. Simply making the source code available for download worldwide is legally equivilant to selling bombs to Iran. As fucked up as the law is, it must be obeyed if you want to avoid being jailed for arms trafficking.
4018  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin scams on: October 09, 2012, 09:38:12 AM
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Warning: Moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Watch out for Ponzi schemes. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose.

The first line in the disclaimer shows how complicit the moderator's are in the criminal acts performed on this forum.
No it doesn't, for the reasons I already explained. It's not even a disclaimer in any case: where does it even say that anyone is disclaiming liability of anything? It's just a warning and a reminder that brain use is required. Normally such warnings would not be required, but since we're potentially dealing with the same people who apparently can't drink coffee without burning themselves and then suing everyone who didn't warn them that hot things can cause burns, it pays to play it safe and just include stupid warnings for stupid people.

In the eyes of the law, this makes them conspirators. Not to mention this forum could face penalties under the RICO act for protecting and promoting the criminals that fill the lending and securities forum.
Warning people about potential scams makes one a conspirator in the eyes of the law? What crazy law are you talking about here? And you've got a long way to go if you think that simply refusing to censor lawful communications based on unproven accusations of unlawfulness counts as racketeering.
4019  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-10-08 lfb.org/businessinsider.com - Paper Money = Despotism on: October 09, 2012, 08:01:09 AM
Exactly which politicians are pushing for Bitcoin to "open up its data", and do they realise how silly they look when not only is all the data (both the code and the transaction database) already completely open to "close government scrutiny", but being so open to scrutiny is precisely the entire point of Bitcoin (since that's how it prevents fraud without relying on trusted third parties)?
4020  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-09-27 Telegraph.co.uk - Bitcoin 'Pirate' scandal: SEC steps in on: October 08, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
Bitcoin banks? Does he mean the exchanges?
No. He's talking about the MyBitcoin fiasco. Though, he's got a lot of other things confused:

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When Bitcoin was launched in 2008, each Bitcoin traded at three US cents each;
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With such a tempting rate, many people piled in – as many as 500,000 Bitcoins were sent to Pirate, giving a value before interest of almost $7 million entering Bitcoin Savings and trust.
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The allegation that Pirate was running a Ponzi scheme dropped the value of the currency by almost 30 per cent.

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