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4001  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why? on: August 15, 2016, 03:53:21 AM
not yet, but i want to. first i need to check out how everything works and then if it is ok i buy some to start.

Just a piece of advice try not to but Smiley  Try to earn it so that you can experienced of how hard it is. Through this you can grow in this industry then if you think that your knowledge is enough then try to improve your earning strategies using those bitcoin you get or earned.


Yeah it is a good advice that you are going to try to earn for it so that you are going to know how important it is to have bitcoin at all especially when you did great effort for it. And you are going to earn just for holding it same reason like buying and just for holding it. Your investment is going to be your effort at all.

That's right in this way aside from gaining some amounts you are also learning. If you fail it is fine because you have nothing much to lose at all. You can directly stand up and try again then grow.
Yeah failure is one more step towards the success, even if you fail you should never give up and try to improve your skills and over a period of time you will surely succeed.
Failure is an important step to succes, but if you have just failures there is a problem

Failure is a step to success if you learned from it. If you take that failure as a stepping stone and not repeat the same mistakes you made. But if you failed and just ignore it and try again doing the same mistake you made, then there is something wrong with you.
4002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 15, 2016, 02:56:56 AM
When you are rich already then you don't have to gamble anymore, what's the use of your money if you put it in gambling an unfortunately you lose then you aren just wasting.People have no satisfaction in life keep on trying and finding a lot of money even they have more than what they receive.

It is greed that keeps them gambling and going for more. Even if you are rich, if your greed for money is still strong, you will find ways to make more money. And the easiest way to find and most alluring is gambling. Others like investing is too much work. But gambling is too easy to do but can be dangerous. YOu can lose a lot and the worst is you can get addicted. So if you are rich, better avoid gambling.
4003  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 15, 2016, 02:34:14 AM
For me it is better to save rather than to invest because even you are going to invest without good plan then you are not going to earn.
So, while planning you are just going to have good savings first and after that you are going to invest if you think you have enough bitcoins or money saved already.

In your statement, your end game is still on investing. Investing is what we need to have a good financial status. But as what you said, you cannot just go into investment without any plan or without enough money. Saving is what you do before investing. After that, if you have enough money for emergency and other expenses, you invest the rest of your money.
4004  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 14, 2016, 10:10:31 PM
Saving money maybe the most stupidest way  to lose your money. Why? Because even if your money is inan bank savings account every year you lose in Inflation your money depreciates its value and you don' t know it. So maybe investing it is a better choice.

saving money as in having money aside for when you need it is a good option. but if you save money just for the purpose of earning interest, then it's not a good idea. to avoid seeing your fiat holdings decrease in value people should always choose to invest a part of their wealth. that's the only way how you can avoid seeing the value of your wealth turn into hot air.
Saving money and setting it aside must be the way on how you silently or blindly make you money decrease. I mean if you set money aside inflation will decrease your money's buying power. While Investing it in atocks whicha has an annual 20% return is not bad and actually beats the inflation rate of most.

Investing in stocks seems to be risky as it goes same like investing in bitcoin as no one can control the price, but as we know that higher rewards comes only with higher risks.

Stocks backed by a good company is a good investment. It will surely give you good profit over time. There is little risk if you buy stocks of apple or google. But if you buy IPO stocks, then the risk is really big because the potential is still unknown.
4005  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 14, 2016, 01:50:23 PM
if you save your money you will get nothing
I think it is time to invest your money to get earn for your investment
I personally, If I have money I dont think to save it , I want to invest it.

You cannot just invest all your money. You have to set aside some money for emergency purposes. That is the use of saving in a bank. The rest you can invest if you want. But always have some reserve money. You have to utilize both saving and investing to have a good financial status.
4006  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 14, 2016, 01:43:45 PM
Who knows, i though i know but i am still not so rich, it means that i don't know how to do this. But i really want to know and i will do this, later Grin
Well, if you have no plan to be rich then you will not become rich, to be rich is hard if you do not have a plan to follow. Maybe you can call that as a wish to become rich and you need some miracles to be rich like winning in the lottery accidentally or find a lost bag with full of money in the steet.

First you have to have a desire to become rich. And if that desire is strong enough, I think you will find a way to become one. I always wanted to become rich, I researched how to have a good financial management. Problem is, my desire to procrastinate is stronger than my desire to become rich.
Your desire should be very strong because the journey to become rich is not that easy, you need to face all the obstacles and challenges in going there but if you have a strong faith in yourself you can conquer all the challenges and you will succeed.

That is right, you should be firm in your conviction to be rich so you will not sway if challenges arise. And always stick to your plan to be rich. Whatever your plan is, never sway from it and always follow it. With dedication and perseverance, you can be rich someday.
4007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 14, 2016, 01:31:27 PM
hi guys, i bought 1BTC today and i am wondering to gamble or to invest the 1btc?

if to gamble
 
best site to gamble with a really nice provably fair..

and if to invest.

best investment program wherein no scam.

thank you for your opinions guys

cheers
for me if you already bought 1 bitcoin then don't gamble it because you just want to double it as fast as you can no just hold it and learn the currency of bitcoin it is more reliable if you choose investment or trading , trading is one of the best one i can suggest for now because it is easy to use if you have knowledge in trading Smiley don't invest your money and dont take any risk

Trading can give sure money consistently if you know what you are doing. But very few are really good traders, and sometimes you need a lot of money to be able to really benefit in trading. If you are trading small, fees will eat your profit.
4008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: August 14, 2016, 01:24:39 PM
it is not a sickness for sure, in my opinion people should be able to do whatever they want with their money they earn so they can freely gamble if they want

Ok i agree, people can do whatever that want with their money but Gambling is a sickness in such a way that if you want to quit gambling some time later in life its hard to do so.

Gambling is a sickness only for those people who are addicted gamblers, because they have waste their whole amount in it, and also their life become hard for them because of sickness of gambling, but i think if we play gambling for fun or entertainment so definitely gambling is not sickness for us.
Therefore it is not good to be addicted in gambling, we have to be responsible enough to gamble ensure that we are already at matured age and thinking when we get it to gambling so we could safely get out.

There is no guarantee that you will not be addicted to gambling if you are.doing it. The more you do gambling, the more the risk of you being addicted. Even if yoh are just playing for fun, you can be addicted to it and could ruin your life.
4009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: August 14, 2016, 01:14:48 PM
It actually depends on your luck cause most of the gambling games are based on luck, Well there are some to that requires analysis like you're gonna look for patterns.
I'm not sure patterns analysis will work if the results are truly random, winnings in gambling is dependent on our luck. Roll Eyes
Patterns are useless and doing that would only add some excitement to a certain gambling if the pattern hits in favor of them but in the long run it will never work. In gambling the only thing that would work for your is your luck, the more you are lucky the more you are winning in gambling.

There is no pattern in gambling. Even the martingale strategy does not work. So if I gamble, I go all in on the first round. So that if I am lucky, I double immediately. If not, I lose all but I do not spend too much time gambling. And I do not risk myself to become addicted because I spend only a few minutes in gambling sites.

Right, no pattern and no any strategy work it in gambling, i have an experience that only luck need in gambling, when i play gambling, i saw my all strategy and pattern didn't help me, only luck help me and i was win. Also the way of earning from gambling, it become you addicted so better is that play gambling not a regular.

I was also a victim of that. A gambler told me to follow a routine on a certain gambling site and winning is assured.but alas, I just lost bitcoins and the routine never worked. So, I stopped gambling on that site. There is no routine or.pattern to assure winning on gambling. It is just pure luck.
4010  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are your gambling stats? (Profit/Loss) on: August 14, 2016, 12:07:07 PM
Almost all the peoples gambling stats are in loss and mine is nothing different.I cannot even count how much loss it would be but still loss amount must be greater than my winning amount so far in the gambling. Why this happens with every one ? The answer is house always win and most of the players always end up in the loss.

Most is losing in casino gambling but more and more are still going to gamble. As long as there are some who claim they won big money in casino, even if it is just one person, many will be lured to go.gambling because of greed. Easy money is too tempting to resist.
4011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 14, 2016, 05:39:36 AM
A lot of people wrecked their life gambling and I almost did the same or I have not done so yet but I have been near it several times. There is though very few lucky people on earth especially on Las Vegas who have won a jackpot worth million dollars and that sum is a sum that can fix your life. I am an avid slot player but lately have turn my attention to sports as I am winning by following persons who do predictions free and also with payment. I can tell you that by trying to get the jackpot in slots you risk very high to wreck your life.

There has been a study that those who won millions from either lottery or casino eventually lose their money and become poor again. Becoming instant millionaire because of gambling does not guarantee that you can maintain that money for long years. Mostly, winners will not value their money and over spend on worthless things. So it is still better to earn your first million thru hard work.
4012  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: August 14, 2016, 05:33:02 AM
bitcoin wallet is the best in my opinion, banks are around for a really long time right now and i dont think it is that good of a thing, in my opinion it will be changed
yes banks are around for a long time if you search it banks are in long turn where they service are doing good and there service are amazing too the good thing in banks are you can deposit your money like investment because here in my country we earn money while our money is in our banks it's like bitcoin wallet to if the bitcoins price will increase we gonna have profit too right ?

How much does your money earn in a bank? If it is just the normal interest of 1% per annum, then it is performing very poorly. But if you invested in bitcoin, the earning is very good. Like last year, if you bought when the price is 250$, your bitcoin has doubled in value right now. No bank can do that in less than a year.
4013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: August 14, 2016, 05:24:26 AM
Everyone who is suffering under a disease or addiction (no matter which one) should call for help. This is the best chance to save your bank account and your family. For all others, gambling is just for fun. There are also many people who can control their gambling activities. Some can not and those need help.

Definitely, gambling addiction is a disease, it is kind of sickness, we should avoid it, to protect our bank accounts, family.

The problem is not all gambling addicts can accept or admit that they are already addicted to gambling. They can be too proud to accept or too shame to admit to others that theybdo not have the control over gambling but gambling controlling them. It will be easy to help them if they just for help on the early stage of addiction.
4014  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this what we called "addictive to gamble"? on: August 14, 2016, 05:19:47 AM
Many people are not ready to admit of having addiction to gambling. I have a friend who was used to gamble everyday on slot machines in physical casino. Now he just bought own casino thinking it a good business but he is also playing on his own slot machines. I asked him how can you win this way he say he likes to stay playing. I told him that you are addicted he just denied to accept the reality. This is new case for me to see someone in this condition.

Denying that you are an addict is a worst situation of a gambler. No one can help him if he keeps denying to himself and his friends that he is already hooked into gambling. Until he admit that he is already an addict and cried for help, there is nothing you can do about it. Just pray that he won't burn all his money in the slot machines.
4015  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: August 14, 2016, 05:08:46 AM
It actually depends on your luck cause most of the gambling games are based on luck, Well there are some to that requires analysis like you're gonna look for patterns.
I'm not sure patterns analysis will work if the results are truly random, winnings in gambling is dependent on our luck. Roll Eyes
Patterns are useless and doing that would only add some excitement to a certain gambling if the pattern hits in favor of them but in the long run it will never work. In gambling the only thing that would work for your is your luck, the more you are lucky the more you are winning in gambling.

There is no pattern in gambling. Even the martingale strategy does not work. So if I gamble, I go all in on the first round. So that if I am lucky, I double immediately. If not, I lose all but I do not spend too much time gambling. And I do not risk myself to become addicted because I spend only a few minutes in gambling sites.
4016  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 14, 2016, 04:41:02 AM
Nothing wrong with a little gambling as long as you can afford it, some religions are against it but not being religious myself that doesn't bother me, i just can't afford to gamble.
I believe in God but I also gamble, I think there is nothing wrong with gambling as long as you were able to manage it, even in trading that is already gambling as you can lose or win with the price movement. Just make sure it would not ruin your life and you will never call gambling wrong.
Yes but it depends on what God you believe in, some of those religious nut follow some strange gods with some even stranger rules.
Although i think the most common would be the Muslim religion, i don't think they are supposed to gamble but i may be wrong.

I do not think religion has anything to do with gambling. Even if your religion tells you it is wrong, you will still gamble if you want it. I think the more you say that gambling is wrong, the more people will gamble. Because it is exciting to do something illegal and get away with it.
4017  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 14, 2016, 12:46:35 AM
Bitcoin itself is already an investment. But i prefer to use it for investments. Just to be sure it will steady and minimize the losses when a sudden drop occur. Gambling is not smart thing to make your bitcoins to double coz its very risky. Ofcourse investments also are risky but its more safer than gambling. Gambling can take away your bitcoin in an instant when you are not careful

There are only very few investments that you can put your bitcoin directly. And most of them are scams or ponzis. So what I do is convert them to fiat and invest them in investments in real life (not online). I leave some bitcoin for holding though.  I think I have better chance of making more money in stocks investment than gambling.
4018  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 14, 2016, 12:39:37 AM
Better save it on the bank.
Investing online is so risky you don't know if you are going to earn or not.

Both have advantage and disadvantage, like for instance, you save your money on the bank and you only get few percentage as interest of it, but of course, your money is safe and nothing to worry about when you sleep at night.... And in investing it online, you get high ROI, which is the bank can't give, the downside of it is they might run your money..
That is correct if you have both that is great income in the long run, it is also good if you invest your money in bank like time deposit which will gives you high interest whil in bitcoin or online investment you will take a big risk on it but it will return with a high profit also.

It's good to make a time deposit if you feel like you have extra money or you don't need that money that you are going to deposit in a bank, coz if not, I doubt if you would earn, better use your money to put up a business if you know that it might be your last big money... Investing on investment sites is too risky... They usually run when someone invested a big money...
Time deposits are ok for the very conservative investors. There's surely capital preservation, although the interest from it wouldn't really beat inflation. I remember about 10 years ago, it was still ok to have time deposits as interest rates back then were as much as 12% per annum, at least from where I come from. Nowadays, the most you could get from time deposits is 3-5% from reputable banks. Rural banks offer higher interests but are more prone to being bankrupt.

Time deposit is a thing of the past. If your going to put money in the bank, then it should be just for the purpose of safekeeping and not because of interest rates. Money in the bank is just for emergency and future investments. Other than that, money should be put in investments that earn
4019  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 14, 2016, 12:27:52 AM
Yes gambling addiction can ruin anyone no matter how rich a person can be its a that kind of addiction that it can make a rich people poor.
i think its the greediness than results in destruction of people,because richer people wants to become more richer and if they loose they want to cover their losses.And this addiction ends up destroying the gamblers life.

Absolutely right. Gambling can destroy a persons life if left unchecked. So before your greed and gambling clean up your money and destroy your life, get out of it. It is hard to quit it when you are already addicted to it. So while early, quit it.
4020  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 13, 2016, 11:57:30 PM
Who knows, i though i know but i am still not so rich, it means that i don't know how to do this. But i really want to know and i will do this, later Grin
Well, if you have no plan to be rich then you will not become rich, to be rich is hard if you do not have a plan to follow. Maybe you can call that as a wish to become rich and you need some miracles to be rich like winning in the lottery accidentally or find a lost bag with full of money in the steet.

First you have to have a desire to become rich. And if that desire is strong enough, I think you will find a way to become one. I always wanted to become rich, I researched how to have a good financial management. Problem is, my desire to procrastinate is stronger than my desire to become rich.
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