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4021  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: February 19, 2019, 06:22:41 AM
How about the "buy tickets with all" option ? Is that something you guys will work on ?

I mean when it is not even responded I assume its probably not on working to-do list but its seriously something that could save so much time for a lot of us who constantly buy tickets. I mean it is not an urgent thing but it really could save a lot of time and its seriously annoying to having to calculate the max amount every single time so it would save us some headache as well

There might not be enough demand

That is, you may be one of the few who is actually buying lottery tickets with their hard-rolled satoshi (other then receiving them for free). On the other hand, if they add this option, it is reasonable to expect more people to go with it when they see it. So it will be a rational thing to implement this feature. Provided they are really interested in selling more tickets, of course, as with such things you can expect many instances of counterintuitive approaches (when things don't work the way you feel they should)

Second one could be the "recent" tab in affiliates, I know who is active and who is not however it would be much better if I knew by date instead of "recent", like what is this "recent" ? How much did my affiliate made me in the last 7 days or last 30 days, by each affiliates one by one as well. That way I can at least see if its going down or going up in shorter periods of time as well. More info would help us be more involved

This is another can of worms
4022  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: On merchants not willing to accept crypto on: February 19, 2019, 06:14:32 AM
As long as there are no much regulation on the coin and cryptocurrency we will have a hard time to get more merchants to accept bitcoin on their market

In fact, it cuts both ways

As it depends on what kind of regulation is being enforced by the authorities. If the rules and regulations are not about banning crypto out of hand, but actually about making things clear and well-defined, i.e. about regulating it (as in Japan, for example), that would in fact make accepting cryptocurrencies easier. When the rules are clearly defined, merchants will always know where they stand in respect to cryptocurrencies and can act accordingly
4023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which gambling sites offers investment on: February 19, 2019, 05:58:08 AM
It is better to diversify investment money in various casinos rather than investing all in one casino. This logic can be applied to every investment you make. In this case all you need to find 5 different casinos and invest $20 in each (if you got $100).

I still wouldn't be bothered though. Buying alts and hodling is much more rewarding.
Diversifying has both upside and downside as well. Now if you ask me would I rather give 20+ casinos all my money and then wait for them to profit or just one good place like crypto games then I would opt for just cryptogames because in 20+ casinos some of them are bound to he shady. However, if you tell me just couple of casinos that I really trust then it could be another case.

Diversifying for just sake of diversifying would be horrible, putting your money in multiple income sources is always a great idea in case one gets stuck for a while but also putting your money into stuff you don't know or not trust very much is a risk bigger than the one place investment. I would rather divide it into 3 places that we all know and just hope that it gets a good return for me but I wouldn't put it on 10+ places I never heard of.

This is the same with cryptocurrencies in general

People had been "diversifying" by pouring their hard-earned cash into all kinds of fraudulent schemes (like shitcoins, shittokens, rogue casinos, and whatnot). And when everything started to crash at the end of the day, they were bitterly surprised by the results of their "diversification"

It turns out that when you diversify recklessly and thoughtlessly, for example, by investing in every new casino on the block, you are not so much increasing the odds of making more money as essentially multiplying your chances for losing most of your investments
4024  Economy / Economics / Re: On evolution of prices on: February 19, 2019, 05:51:47 AM
the longer the price stays in its tight range, the higher are the chances that it will continue to stay in that range in the future.

Fundamentally, it may mean more adoption

these two statements are contradictory.

if we get more adoption then price will rise. to put simply you can't expect more people buying bitcoin (more money coming in) while price stays the same!

That's not necessarily so

You are essentially assuming that people will be buying more bitcoins if real adoption should grow. But this is no more than what you come to intuitively think. So why do you think that people will be buying more Bitcoin in that case?

i am not saying people are going to buy more bitcoin i am saying more adoption means more people and more bitcoin is being bought in total

Isn't it essentially six of one and half a dozen of the other?

Regardless, it seems to me  that you are misusing the term adoption or misunderstanding what it actually means. With adoption, Bitcoin is not bought or sold (as this is what speculation is all about). Adoption is about real use of Bitcoin, for example, as a means of payment (or as a value transfer vehicle in real life) when things are bought and sold for bitcoins. Indeed, you can say that when I'm buying something for it, I'm basically selling my bitcoin (and vice versa), but this is a poor man's excuse if you ask me
4025  Economy / Economics / Re: On evolution of prices on: February 18, 2019, 10:41:09 AM
That's not necessarily so

You are essentially assuming that people will be buying more bitcoins if real adoption should grow. But this is no more than what you come to intuitively think. So why do you think that people will be buying more Bitcoin in that case? I was always thinking that real adoption is about spending bitcoins (from already accumulated stashes), not so much buying more.

you're basically saying you don't expect adoption to occur then, just that old users are spending coins.

if adoption is actually increasing, new users need to get their bitcoins somewhere. a small minority might mine them (by buying hardware and electricity) or accept payment for goods/services. but traditionally for most people, using bitcoins means buying them first.

you don't expect new users?

That's the problem with your ways

Basically, you are looking at only one aspect of something without taking into account other aspects, which can be even more important for the issue in question (read, you don't see the whole picture). For example, you seem to agree that old farts will be spending their long-stashed coins but you evidently don't think about what happens to these coins later

Obviously, they don't disappear as someone receives them, right? But this is how new users will be acquiring bitcoins. So they don't necessarily need to buy them. And why would they, really? Do you buy dollars or whatever to spend them? After all, if we talk about real adoption, it has little to do with trading and speculation
4026  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency lending business. on: February 18, 2019, 10:34:32 AM
In any manner you might be just looking at bitcoin as a currency similar to fiat and for me there is no problem with bitcoin lending. The only gap that I think may be a hindrance is the idea that bitcoin does not equate money in terms of usage, which means that people have to convert it back to money in order to buy things or for whatever it may serve him best. If it should happen that bitcoin will be more like fiat in the years to come then it will just be the beginning of the new era of digital money. Where you don't have to exchange bitcoin for fiat since by itself it can already purchase or pay for something you need. This may happen in the years to come

I would certainly agree with your thought If you substituted Litecoin for Bitcoin here

Bitcoin is just too expensive and too dear to be used as a regular means of payment. Do you see a lot of people directly paying with gold coins, apart from in the movies (as in John Wick, for example)? And it is not because gold is cumbersome and inconvenient (even though because of it too) as people could just use gold certificates which would count as paper money backed up gold. They don't pay with gold simply because gold is a store of value, and you typically don't waste such assets (unless you have nothing else to pay with, of course)

In this way, we shouldn't actually expect Bitcoin to become a good currency in the future. But that's not a bad thing at all as we have lots of altcoins to serve as Bitcoin's proxy to being a means of payment. And it won't hurt Bitcoin either as it will only add more value to it as a store of value, i.e. "digital gold"
4027  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New hate wave? on: February 18, 2019, 09:41:04 AM
The banking system has always been and will be negative about cryptocurrency, because cryptocurrency is a rival of this system and not even as much as bankers, from whom it takes a part of the previous profit. A wave of hostility to cryptocurrency will only fall when states legalize cryptocurrency. However, the negative attitude of bankers to cryptocurrency will always remain

It is not that simple

Indeed, banks are earning by taking fees on fiat transfers, so if people stop using banks for this purpose and instead start using Bitcoin as a value transfer vehicle, banks will be losing profits. On the other hand, Bitcoin opens a lot of other earning opportunities for banks as well. It is just a matter of adapting and adopting the technology. Banks have expertise, qualified personnel, available infrastructure, so unless they deliberately choose to do nothing, they can still be among the first to the party
4028  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: February 18, 2019, 09:26:11 AM
Nope, it does not matter about the wagering amount because it depends on your luck too so it might be up and down. But what I meant here is the amount of wagered seems to increase from 500 sat to 1000 sat to get 1 reward point, but they make some event, with 1000 sat they just double the payout so I think it is just a pointless thing to do this. Why not make it normal like usual 500 sat to get 1 reward point. And usually their weekend promotion is pretty good like 3x or 4 times reward point but this week its only double and with 1000 sat instead of 500 sat

Nope. The reason the amount you need to wager changed from 500 sats to 1000 sats is that the BTC value in USD changed. You still need to wager the same amount in USD

Now I feel completely confused

As I got it, BTCevo just says that now you have to wager 1000 satoshi for a doubled payout of reward points which is the same thing as wagering 500 satoshi ("they make some event, with 1000 sat they just double the payout so I think it is just a pointless thing to do this"). Well, I just checked at the faucet and I'm still paid 1 reward point for 1000 satoshi wagered, though it was the same a couple weeks ago. So I don't know how to understand him
4029  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: On merchants not willing to accept crypto on: February 18, 2019, 07:58:12 AM
And this is where we see Bitcoin being willingly accepted by providers of these services and suppliers of such goods. You can easily buy elite real estate, pay for the most exclusive sports cars, seduce your passion with most exquisite jewelries, and you can do all these things with bitcoins - provided you have enough of them, of course. In simple terms, when money talks bullshit walks. And Bitcoin is that money

So it is not about merchants at all
These are probably one off deals and it does not mean that they are accepting bitcoin for the rest, the elite customers can negotiate the deals on their terms if they are willing to pay more in bitcoin than the dollar rates and i am sure so is the reason they got these one off deals but that does not mean that they will be accepting bitcoin from everyone, surely money talks and that is what has happened here, merchant adoption means that everyone is able to spend the same coins and get those products and that is not the case here. People who accumulate wealth can dictate the terms but not everyone

I definitely see your point

And I can't say that I particularly disagree with it. However, while a small individual with empty stomach and holey pockets can't indeed dictate his terms (and in this you are certainly right), things change if there are many such individuals. In this case, it becomes essentially the same as one big wheel with deep pockets. Thereby, we still come to the same conclusion, i.e. it is the lack of sufficient demand that prevents merchants from fully embracing crypto
4030  Economy / Economics / Re: On evolution of prices on: February 18, 2019, 05:15:17 AM
the longer the price stays in its tight range, the higher are the chances that it will continue to stay in that range in the future.

Fundamentally, it may mean more adoption

these two statements are contradictory.

if we get more adoption then price will rise. to put simply you can't expect more people buying bitcoin (more money coming in) while price stays the same!

That's not necessarily so

You are essentially assuming that people will be buying more bitcoins if real adoption should grow. But this is no more than what you come to intuitively think. So why do you think that people will be buying more Bitcoin in that case? I was always thinking that real adoption is about spending bitcoins (from already accumulated stashes), not so much buying more. Buying more is more about speculation than real use. If anything, adoption should first of all make prices less volatile. Whether it will be followed by rise in prices remains to be seen
4031  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to restart the blockchain? on: February 17, 2019, 08:57:35 PM
I was thinking about the ways to make the blockchain smaller, and the most obvious and simplest solution that I came up with consists in restarting the blockchain one day. For example, we can start with an empty blockchain every year with only initial balances written on it and without any transactions. I think that would make the whole network more reliable, while full nodes easier to maintain

Of course, the previous blockchains should be available at all times as well, whoever may need them. We may have to tie them up into one whole using links or whatever so that we could always trace all transactions back to the genesis block. Note that we don't necessarily have to restart with an empty blockchain as we can, for example, save the last 2-3 years of transactions once the blockchain is restarted

Is this a good idea?

If you are talking about linking an old blockhain to a new one, then there are a couple of things you should be aware of.

Primarily, expect the old one to die, because of the massive migration of people form the old one to the new one

Well, I'm not sure if the term "die" is correct here

We are basically freezing the old blockchain, even setting in stone, figuratively speaking. So how can it possibly die when we are in fact making it eternal, indestructible and irreversible? You can think of it as a read-only archive to get a better understanding of what I propose here

So if anyone is interested in old transactions, that being an academic interest and idle curiosity (for example, to see how it all started 100 years ago), they can easily download the first 50 years of Bitcoin transactions to their brain circuitry and relive the history
4032  Economy / Economics / Re: Institutional money into Crypto? on: February 17, 2019, 08:42:10 PM
Your late, wall street guys have already been in crypto for a long time.  Winklevoss twins have connections in all those circles and they have been in bitcoin for years now and are working on their additional crypto businesses.  The money needed to enter the market is the average joes who don't even know how to use bitcoin

The question is not about their money

Even if these guys have been in Bitcoin since its inception (which may well be the case). For this they don't need ETF's, SEC approvals and whatnot. The question is about managing someone else's money (preferably big money). Basically, ETF's and similar institutions (for example, pension funds) are investing the money of their clients. And their clients are these average Joe's who may not even have heard about crypto (let alone been using it)
4033  Economy / Economics / Re: On evolution of prices on: February 17, 2019, 04:53:47 PM
I am not sure I understand what you mean by the second approach, though. It still looks on the past, but just on not distant past, right? Because to conclude that the price is low for a long time, we need to refer to the past. I think this approach is simply a narrower version of the previous one. It looks at the tip of the iceberg and makes its projections from there while the first one takes all of the existing data into account and makes more educated guesses

Strictly speaking, yes, it is still about statistics (i.e. looking back)

For example, once the trend is established, statistically it is more likely that it will go on than reverse right at the next moment, i.e. the odds of its continuation in the next couple units of base time are higher than its reversal (base time here refers to time used to define a trend). But it is about odds only, i.e. it doesn't in the least mean that the trend will continue indefinitely, of course

What I mean by the second approach here is a generalization of this case (including "no trend" option), which excludes from consideration past history, i.e. history before the trend (or its lack) has been established. In other words, it is explicitly assumed that what happened prior to that moment is irrelevant and doesn't affect future behavior or price action (for example, cycles, patterns or anything to that tune)
4034  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: February 17, 2019, 04:26:54 PM
By increasing means the chance of us losing is twice higher. Let say with 0.01 btc and wagering 500sat, you can get 2000 reward point and by increasing it to 1000 sat and reward point is double you will get exactly the same reward? So what is the point of having this double reward then?

I'm not sure if I understand correctly what you mean here

As I understand it, your reward points depend on amount wagered and that has little to do with odds as such. For example, you can set the bet amount to 0.01 BTC and lose all at one go (earning 2000 reward points). On the other hand, you can wager only 1000 satoshi and bet this amount till your balance is gone. With 5% house edge that will take something like 20k rolls earning you around 40k reward points

And this seems to be the maximum you can squeeze from your balance if your goal is to earn as many reward points as possible. If you want to get rid of variance completely, you may have to lower your bet amount, but this won't help you earn substantially more (will just take longer)
4035  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't fell for FUD. Stand your ground bitcoiners! on: February 17, 2019, 04:02:02 PM
So theoretically you could expect a lot of interest in these exchanges. But somehow there's not much. And I think it will be the same with atomic swaps (either through smart contracts or in some other way), i.e. people won't be interested in these. And that's the reason we are not going to see a lot of development here either

the biggest problem in that front is that centralized exchanges are making money so they keep staying ahead of the game while decentralized exchanges won't make money. and everyone nowadays wants to make money that is why they develop in first place. the days of Satoshi are over where the developers created things to change the world not for financial gains.
and the worst part is that even if they are paid, they create some sort of shittoken in the name of decentralized exchange with ICO or something like that and don't deliver anything because they made the money they were looking for

Merited your post as this is what I've been telling folks for years

I had even created a topic here after Bitfinex got hacked in August 2016 when over 120k bitcoins were stolen. People were nodding their heads in agreement and nothing has changed since then. A truly decentralized exchange is only possible on the blockchain level when your desktop wallet functions as that exchange. But no one is financially interested in this kind of thing since there is no way you could profit off it, apart from running an ICO fraudulent scheme as you correctly note
4036  Economy / Gambling / Re: EOSBet.io - Licensed Casino Platform Provably Fair Passive income on: February 17, 2019, 03:05:17 PM
according to my calculations, it is around 1% at the moment, which means you get investment back in 3 months...thats pretty insane
That's good 3 month is just a short period of time, anyone who can constantly earn 1% daily would be happy to invest.
I'm not so familiar with this gambling site since it's in EOS platform but if the profitability will stay this fixed, I might risk a certain amount of my money.
Incredibly awesome if an individual constantly earn 1% daily on Gambling platform. Most investment platform these days are not yielding such daily profits compare to this, so, this might be the best option for me to make my cut for investing on such platform

It is possible to earn that much, now and then

But I don't think you can actually make 1% daily on a day-by-day basis, year in and year out. Here's an interesting chart provided by coingamblingreviews and taken from this topic:



As you can see, in the best case scenario, you would be earning like 60% annually. This is nowhere near doubling your investment in 3 months. In the worst case scenario, you would only "earn" losses. And don't forget that even if you can earn in EOS coins themselves, you may still book losses in USD terms due to devaluation of the underlying cryptocurrency
4037  Economy / Economics / Re: On evolution of prices on: February 17, 2019, 02:53:20 PM
These two approaches are not mutually exclusive. I think, it depends on the time frame you are looking

For example, in the case of bitcoin, if you go to smaller time frames, something like 15 minutes or similar, you will see that very often the price stabilizes before an abrupt change. The price can be so flat, that it looks as if no change is happening whatsoever. And then a proportionally huge rise (or drop). But on the higher time frames, the price movements are usually less volatile and it appears the second approach is right, that is, the price has stabilized in a tighter range

I think you are misunderstanding the whole point

More specifically, it is not a matter of timeframes at all because if it were, it would mean using the first approach. Basically, as soon as you start talking about timeframes, you are implicitly making your choice (in favor of the first approach). And I don't really know how you can possibly consider the price movement from measly 150 dollars up to almost insane 20k as less volatile, ever. But it is the longest timeframe you can take without losing focus. Indeed, you could take the whole Bitcoin history as "timeframe", but that would effectively destroy the idea of a timeframe (apart from making volatility almost infinite in that case)
4038  Economy / Economics / Re: On evolution of prices on: February 17, 2019, 02:21:41 PM
The second approach deliberately discards the past data (like past performance is not indicative of future prices), and on this ground it can be called progressive (or prospective). If we employ it, we may come to a completely different conclusion. Basically, the longer the price stays in its tight range, the higher are the chances that it will continue to stay in that range in the future.

i don't get it. what is this progressive approach exactly and how does it lead to that conclusion?

Actually, it is not my thought or idea at all

And this phenomenon has even its own name (if anyone remembers it, you are welcome to chime in on this). Simply put, if we know nothing about a certain process, the longer it lasts the more we can be certain that it will go on for at least as long. It has certain application in things like accrual calculations. For example, if a person survives his 20th birthday, there are good chances that he will live up to 50
4039  Economy / Speculation / Re: Seems to me Bitcoin is getting over the bear sh*t on: February 17, 2019, 09:00:11 AM
It's hard to say the bear market is leaving, the rising is still too small to be consider as bull, many experts predicted from the chart said that the bear will still on going, the price 3k is not a good support price, it got the possibility of falling down lower before going up

There are two opposite views on this

Following which you can come to very different, even antagonistic conclusions. According to the first view, prices are set explode (or implode) sooner or later as it has always happened in the past. So technically, we should be counting down the days until it actually happens. On the other hand, the second view suggests that it may not in fact be the case and our counting should actually be in the opposite direction as the longer prices remain stable the more people expect them to be stable in the future
4040  Economy / Economics / On evolution of prices on: February 17, 2019, 08:01:22 AM
There are basically two approaches in analyzing price action with the purpose of seeing and telling the direction where prices may be going in the future

The first approach, which can be called historical (we can also call it retrospective), is based on the past data as it uses prior history to draw conclusions about future price action. If we use it, we should expect a powerful price action after a long period of stable or stagnant prices simply because it has always been so in the past. In this way, it can be said that we are running on a countdown timer now, i.e. with each passing day we are moving closer to the day when the market will rise and shine (again)

The second approach deliberately discards the past data (like past performance is not indicative of future prices), and on this ground it can be called progressive (or prospective). If we employ it, we may come to a completely different conclusion. Basically, the longer the price stays in its tight range, the higher are the chances that it will continue to stay in that range in the future. Fundamentally, it may mean more adoption and thus less speculative value, which would make this approach quite viable while its conclusions perfectly valid and legit

So which camp do you belong to? If you feel like you don't belong here at all, feel free to post your minority opinion too
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