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4041  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2015, 05:51:34 AM
Public Service Announcement (For Anyone Here Who Is Actually New):
/snip

A) Nobody here, on this thread, is actually new. I specifically stayed away from this thread while I was new. (thats why lampchop has no effect on the market)
B) Only waste money buying Bitcoin that you can afford to lose.
C) Your post will disappear, never to be seen again, in hours.


not only that, it is the same in all currency markets since time began.

Money markets are filthy and attract all the worst types of humanity.

Take a look at London and New York money markets, they are rotten with corruption, criminality and squalid waste from top to bottom ... those are the places where majority of the West's wealth is being 'secured'.
4042  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: February 24, 2015, 05:06:18 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-23/ex-plunge-protection-team-whistleblower-governments-control-markets-there-no-price-d

Bitcoin discussed as modern version of desire to escape fiat currencies (21min in)
4043  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2015, 04:59:47 AM
Price is still holding.  It's entirely possible that we are near the base for the next rally. It may take a few hard tests of support to be sure, though.

... and another disgusting delude of childporn smears from the trolls (who seem obsessed with children pony pics and such it has to be said)
4044  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: February 23, 2015, 09:41:47 PM
Why would you need multiple trezors?

The seed is the key, the trezor is like a blank that can be loaded with any key, wiped then loaded with a different key.

In fact having loaded trezors around is riskier than having an empty one with seeds stored elsewhere, off-site, divided up etc.

If I did get one this is how I'd use it too. Keep the "cold" wallets off trezor and secured as backups only, and keep the "hot" wallet on trezor for daily use.

I should have qualified that with a conditional, multiple trezors might be useful in respect of back-up hardware, in case one fails or for spoof wallet, leave one around with a few millibits in it to hand over to thugs gubmint or otherwise, etc.
4045  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: February 23, 2015, 09:26:46 PM
Why would you need multiple trezors?

The seed is the key, the trezor is like a blank that can be loaded with any key, wiped then loaded with a different key.

In fact having loaded trezors around is riskier than having an empty one with seeds stored elsewhere, off-site, divided up etc.
4046  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
chase it greedy troll pigs, chase it ... sub 230 gone, sub-240 next.
4047  Economy / Speculation / Re: For people still in denial about willy on: February 23, 2015, 12:24:59 AM
I think speculation on what would have happened without the bots is a pointless exercise. Because the action caused by the bots influenced the trading decisions of may people and there is no basis for extrapolating what they would have done if the bots hadn't existed.

just like the analysis of the bots that have walked us down from $600 after the July breakout.
4048  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: February 22, 2015, 09:17:38 PM
bitcoin has a controlled amount , there could be a million kg of gold undiscovered.
Not really.
the gold resources that were not mined yet, are already identified and are scarce as well (that is why gold is one of the precious metals).
Also the ore quality is decreasing, so it costs more to get the same amount of gold.

Not really.

Asteroid mining is now within the realms of becoming viable. The gold resources there will dwarf anything seen on this planet. Once the transport mechanisms have been developed for recovery the gold is imminently more accessible, i.e. it is basically there in a pure form waiting to be "picked up".
Viable? What does this exactly mean, can you elaborate a bit?
Asteroid-mining pops up from time to time as a "game-changer" in the press, but the fact is for now there is nothing mature enough to affect the price of gold.
We may use this as an argument once this becomes a real possibility, for now it is a bit off-topic, I am afraid.

Point being, you said gold was scarce and this is incorrect. More correctly it is technically inaccessible, for now.

Viable means economic to retrieve in this context, if that was not obvious. There is now an identifiable technology development path towards retrieving gold from asteroids, do your own research on this if you do not believe me, I don't have time to lay it all out for you. Time and costs to becoming viable will only decrease from here onwards.
4049  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2015, 08:43:15 PM
pretty pathetic bear raid attempt by the greedy noisy, bearpig trolls ... seems like it had to be done though as price was breaking out sideways so they are getting extremely desperate now, as we can tell from the synchronised hating fest that seemingly came from nowhere in time for the quietest time of the market ... chinese NY over tomorrow and fiat starts hitting the exchanges again, need to paint the tape for that
4050  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: February 22, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
bitcoin has a controlled amount , there could be a million kg of gold undiscovered.
Not really.
the gold resources that were not mined yet, are already identified and are scarce as well (that is why gold is one of the precious metals).
Also the ore quality is decreasing, so it costs more to get the same amount of gold.

Not really.

Asteroid mining is now within the realms of becoming viable. The gold resources there will dwarf anything seen on this planet. Once the transport mechanisms have been developed for recovery the gold is imminently more accessible, i.e. it is basically there in a pure form waiting to be "picked up".
4051  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2015, 04:57:24 AM
I can hear the rumble of the halving drumbeat chant like distant thunder building ... put your ear to the ground.
4052  Economy / Economics / Re: Monthly average USD/bitcoin price & trend on: February 21, 2015, 09:19:12 PM
regulations are not protections, they are protection rackets.

People advocating for regulations are the either the racketeers or, amazingly, their gullible marks.
4053  Economy / Speculation / Re: For people still in denial about willy on: February 20, 2015, 10:11:01 PM
after careful consideration of all the points of view above....

definitely bullish.  Wink

i agree, willy or wont he?

now let's see some analysis on the anti-willy that got turned on July '14 just when the 600 breakout move was gaining momo
4054  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2015, 09:00:07 AM
looks to me like the no sub-230 coins held ... and we had 3 good, solid tests of 240, I would not be surprised to never see sub-240 again either.

Just be prepared mentally for such outcomes with bitcoin, its a tough market to trade long and medium term like that.

"Tough times don't last. Tough people do." - unattributed
4055  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2015, 08:54:29 AM
Nice slow steady uptrend, bears not clogging up the forum with derision and contrived FUD, a nice piece about BTC on CNN that was fairly accurate and informative... what the hell is going on here!?!?!   Huh  Cheesy


"we have turned off the seatbelt sign, you are free to move about the cabin ..."
4056  Economy / Speculation / Re: For people still in denial about willy on: February 20, 2015, 08:38:57 AM
if it was as easy as you say what's to stop anyone turning willy back on making mucho moolah?

nothing happens in a vacuum, except perhaps your synapse firings.
4057  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: February 20, 2015, 08:36:20 AM
Smart People weighing in: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-19/guest-post-bitcoin-effete-act-rebellion

Unfortunately still missing the essence. It will take more time.

unbelievable how slow zerohedgers have been to grok bitcoin ... at least it wasn't buried in a cacophony of monkey-rattling cages, eventually they'll get it.
4058  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: February 20, 2015, 07:30:08 AM
Did you guys see the Lenovo blow up today, this is on the order of Sony's rootkit fiasco.

yes, it's truly sickening.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11424248/GCHQs-mass-Internet-surveillance-ruled-unlawful.html

most of this was criminal behaviour at the time it happened, which explains the panic to rush through a lot of the more draconian and intrusive surveillance laws after the fact. Now if only we could find someone with enough moral fortitude to start prosecuting criminal behaviour of the spy agencies?
4059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2015, 10:33:29 PM
i'm still a noob here but our current situation kind of looks like a buildup of buying pressure at the trend line. as if it's about to explode. maybe?

... from the mouth of babes.
4060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: February 19, 2015, 09:25:49 PM
somehow we have to pin this on Bitcoin:

If past HSBC transgressions are any indication, the amount of corrupted cash flowing through U.S. financial institutions could be absolutely startling. The aforementioned 2013 Senate report noted that HSBC allowed over $200 trillion in wire transfers to enter the U.S. unmonitored over a three-year period, including $670 billion in wire transfers from Mexico and at least $881 million in laundered money from Mexican and Columbian drug traffickers. In December 2012, HSBC agreed to pay a $1.92 billion settlement to federal and state authorities for failing to maintain an adequate AML program.

http://www.americanbanker.com/bankthink/beneficial-ownership-rules-would-drag-criminals-into-daylight-1072763-1.html#comments

... this is the kind of money that will inevitably start coursing through bitcoins veins in the not too distant future.
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