You think that most people should rely on off chain solutions? Needing third parties in order to transact in Bitcoin defeats part of the purpose. We should be able to use the Bitcoin Blockchain directly, off chain solutions do not truly increase the throughput of the Bitcoin blockchain. Nowhere did I say "most people should rely on off chain solutions." SC/LN do not require trusted third parties, and they do truly increase the throughput of the Bitcoin blockchain. Sorry if that burns your butt.  |
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This is your problem: in less than 8 hours, almost 5% of the Darkcoins that ever will be created spawned in that 1/3 of a day.
It's safe to say Darkcoin has left its investors in the dark on this one. #r3ktSome of us nobodies were there, you jealous? I'm not jealous because I've never been impressed with obfuscation-based mixing/shuffling/tumbling schemes. They can all be unraveled, especially if trusted third parties like Masternodes are involved. I'm only interested in trust-free solutions using implementations of zero knowledge proofs and homomorphic functions, such as Monero's ring signatures. Dash's HYIPy proof-of-stake is another no-go for me, as is its shady instamine and botched launch/emission. Changing brands is one thing, changing mission statements is another. This coin has been relaunched more times than the iPhone! It is fraud to sell Darkcoins based on the promise of privacy, and then suddenly switch to trying to be yet another retail payment rail like Dash. And then there is this latest "Evolution" gimmick, trying to hop on the popular intelli-hashing Turing-complete smart-chain bandwagon as yet another Ethereum wanna-be. This project has no solid core. 'Dash' is a verb, not a noun, because it IS only whatever eduffield DOES, nothing more. Hence the problematic Bus Factor of 1. If eduffield quits, is arrested for fraud, or hit by a bus, this thing is over. That makes it a hobbyist's pet project, not a real contender for e-cash. |
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If your posts were about or even mentioned Dash, they would be on-topic. But they do not.  Please stay on-topic! |
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"3 second blocktime?" Good luck with that!  |
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Op,
why u still arguing with the fagnamic duo ?
Because they are the cancer killing /b/itcoin There you go again, trying to sell XT using the fear of Bitcoin dying. Bitcoin is stronger than ever, in part thanks to the adversity provided by the attempted Gavinista governance coup. You XTurds truly deserve to be exiled together on the Island of Misfit Gavinistas. Such strange bedfellows the failed putsch has created! It sounds like a joke... Frap.doc (a Bitcoin Maximalist Monopolist Supremacist), Peter R (a clueless spherical cow counter), and J Trolfi (King Buttcoin) walk into Satoshi's bar. 2 hours later, united by their common hatred of Team Core, they are giggling like long lost sisters. "Let's get out of here" says Frap.doc. "Yes," responds Peter R, "the drinks are terrible, and the pours are too small!" |
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Eh for me it was pretty much this sort of behavior with Icebreaker being a prime example. I respect the dude he has a lot of insight into btc and its ecosystem but the level of hateful ad hominem vitriol he has been spewing just turned me off and I didn't feel like participating in the discussion. Not that I'd have too much to say anyway. Just using him as an example now, there have been others, many many others. WTF kind of fake-ass Discordian whines about a little shit-stirring? OMG that awful Hagbard Celine, with his nasty piracy, just turned me off and blah blah blah I'm taking my ball and going home. OMG that hateful Eris, with her terrible pranks, just made me feel like not participating in any more parties! You must be trolling us! No True Discordian would ever (unless spoofing) be so thin-skinned. I invoke Poe's Law! Finally you show some humor. Obviously discord is to be cherished for the boundless source of unpredictable creativity it is but FUCK 'EM IF THEY CAN'T TAKE A JOKE. This humorless, serious-business trench warfare of opinions has me bored to tears and is nothing I will have any part of. Which is just as well - we Discordians must stick apart. Do you even understand what it means to be a POPE? The part about infallibility does NOT extend beyond the confines of your own nervous system and people not grokking this makes for a bland taste of discord indeed. "Finally?"  My posts are nearly always soaked in humor. Have you missed the last 4+ months of epic Gavinista lolcow milking? If you don't get the (albeit occasionally bone dry or tounge-in-cheek) jokes, it's because you are being an easily-offended frump (and they are often engineered precisely to be at the expense of the thin-skinned).  But that's fine, even ideal, as your astute point about how "Discordians must stick apart" illustrates. I suspect your Gavinista sympathies are the reason why you somehow missed the hilarious meta level absurdity of our "serious-business trench warfare" over an obscure internet nerd fight! Even the normally phlegmatic Nick Szabo couldn't resist getting in on the fun and clowning the Gavinistas.  So lighten up Francis! We'll have bigger blocks eventually, just "not tonight, dear!" |
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This topic was already raised recently on r/Monero, but good start would be to not block tor users on the form. All three links behind cloudflair. That's what I get when I click the three links above (all behind cloud fair): https://i.imgur.com/Ur4TuRu.jpgp.s. A reasonable reasons were made on reddit why tor users are blocked and I'm ok (i think) with it for now, but I still think that if monero wants to go into darknet, it needs to embrace tor and tor users, not to punish them with captchas and cloudflare. If you can't get on a site through tor directly, just add a VPN on top. |
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 there is no current investigation by any of the agencies listed in this articleThat must be a great comfort to the DashHoles watching their main scam-coin exchange going down in flames. |
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Satoshi was being realistic about its own design unlike all of you small blockists who didn't had the genius to invent bitcoin. He obviously wasn't locked up in a prison of fear.
The conditions under which Satoshi himself established a block size limit, remain today. No. The recent spam attacks prove this wrong. The limit is useless. Yes. The recent spam attacks proved Satoshi prescient. The limit is invaluable. Didn't you notice XT Redditard Army morale imploded after the "stress tests" not only failed to demonstrate the need for larger blocks (because appropriate fees always continued to prioritize tx accordingly), but backfired by strengthening Core's defenses (in the form of smarter wallet/pool/node software like RBF)? In the presence of adversity, Bitcoin's fee markets simply started working like they were intended to since the Genesis Block. Lightning Network, Sidechains, other off-(main)-chain solutions.
All of them are years away from being ready, tested and proven to be secure. None of them are acceptable solutions. Bitcoin will be forked way before that. Off-(main)-chain solutions have been here for years. Every alt chain proves you wrong. Every off-chain exchange and service (looking at you SatoshiDice) proves you are an idiot. SC/LN are closer than you think. Hearn@sigint.google.mil tried to block BIP65/CLTV, only to get his sorry ass steamrolled and ban-hammered. Progress on the code is rapid. See for yourself: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/commits/masterhttps://github.com/ElementsProject/elements/commits/alphaTeam Core has the means ($21,000,000) and motivation (fuck Hearn and the former core dev he rode in on) to ramp up development by minting dozens of new core devs. |
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Either they are paid by a big block institution to show how disgusting the small blockers are; or they do not realize how repulsive and counterproductive they act for the cause that they postulate. Both possibilities seem nearly impossible: To be that corrupt and to be that stupid.
Stop speculating about motivations. You are not a psychic mind-reader. As one of the few remaining (nearly extinct?) zero-percenter Gavinista dead-enders, this is what you should be worried about.  So much for that fad. The Redditurd Army must have found a shiny new thing/cause/trend.  |
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Wow, Monero Mustangs very aggressive! Or baiting???  Nice to see the fractious Cryptonote community coming together from some intramural activity.  This isn't that aggresive. My normal games at the chess club are way more aggresive.  It's not crazy aggro but still...relative to BBR's defensiveness.... The point is we control the middle! |
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Wow, Monero Mustangs very aggressive! Or baiting??? Nice to see the fractious Cryptonote community coming together from some intramural activity. |
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There are few reasons why xmr is not used widely (maybe there is some limited use, i dont know) in darknet. In my view, the top reasons are:
1. People still think bitcoins is anonymous and private, or at least anonymous and private just enough.
2. There is fair amount of onion websites for buying bitcoins, block exploring, mining pools, etc. For monero, there is none.
3. You can get/sell bitcions relatively easy for cash in real life as compared to xmr, without using exchanges or any websites.
4. These days, much darknet might be either scam or run by feds. Scamers just want to get your most valuable coins, and for feds, bitcion is just perfect.
Let's add: 5. There's an expertise cost with implementing Monero that while not steep for most DN Operators, it would be steep for for their clients and most likely would be considered steep given the limited use of Monero--I'm basing the latter part of this statement on the administrative cost reasons for not adopting Monero cited by some of the companies and organizations I contacted on the latest donation push. 6. DN Operators might not know enough about Monero. Anyone who has spent a few months in this space is bombarded with claims, counter-claims, white papers, FUD, paid media, dirty media..... It will take some time for everyone to separate fact from fiction. There's still two coins with some of the worst privacy attributes imaginable holding spots above Monero in market cap, so it may take some time for the perception to catch up with the reality. 7. No multi-sig. (Although XMR is the perfect on/off ramp.) 8. Most volume on one US-based exchange. (We want RPEX.i2p and FLUFFEX.onion!!!) 9. Drug-addled junkies and child abusers prefer Dash. (GLWT, the reason Dash hasn't been busted is its usefulness as a honey pot.) |
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No one playing the victim here.
We just don't condone instamine scamcoins like DASH etc.
first 8 hours and what...1.8 million DASH or whatever mined?
Currently less than 6 million total dash in circulation.
It's amazing how much energy the DashHoles put into defending, err sorry, "explaining" their massive shady instamine. With the energy (not to mention political capital) wasted on instamine defense, err sorry, "explanation" they could have re-launched Xcoin, Darkcoin, and Dash separately and legitimately. |
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I wonder what Fontsize smoothie's gonna be using
smoothie's font size isn't your problem. This is your problem: in less than 8 hours, almost 5% of the Darkcoins that ever will be created spawned in that 1/3 of a day.
It's safe to say Darkcoin has left its investors in the dark on this one. #r3kt |
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Eh for me it was pretty much this sort of behavior with Icebreaker being a prime example. I respect the dude he has a lot of insight into btc and its ecosystem but the level of hateful ad hominem vitriol he has been spewing just turned me off and I didn't feel like participating in the discussion. Not that I'd have too much to say anyway. Just using him as an example now, there have been others, many many others. WTF kind of fake-ass Discordian whines about a little shit-stirring? OMG that awful Hagbard Celine, with his nasty piracy, just turned me off and blah blah blah I'm taking my ball and going home. OMG that hateful Eris, with her terrible pranks, just made me feel like not participating in any more parties! You must be trolling us! No True Discordian would ever (unless spoofing) be so thin-skinned. I invoke Poe's Law! |
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I have had nothing but excellence across hundreds of trades at MtGox Mintpal Cryptsy.
Story checks out. Seems legit! Would trade again. |
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I heard there's this cool crypto event in Amsterdam this week, this could be a great coattail ridingPR opportunity! Anything specific planned yet?
So how did the marketing went? You could say Monero has finally managed to do something groundbreaking at last - turning real life events into BCT forum trolling thread. Any reason why you are quoting yourself and bumping a Monero marketing thread? Butthurt is the reason. He's butthurt some hilarious troll dude busted the Dash scam IRL. And the sub-Bitcent Dash price isn't exactly soothing that butthurt. Just because you feel you're the victim for not mining or buying when it was cheap when many others did doesn't mean it is a scam. Its strange that you continue to call Monero holders trolls yet continue come to our threads in a failed attempt to troll Monero yourself. The DashHoles are pissed we have been so effective in raising public awareness of their insta-mine, centralization, bad crypo, aggressive toxic cult community, etc. They blame us for Dash prices being stuck under a single Bitcent; they expected to be on the moon as soon as their stupid promo video was uploaded to youtube.  Thankfully, their lulzy butt-ragings accomplish nothing but Streisand Effect marketing for Monero! |
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I would also add "the power of time" besides "the power of the network effect".
I agree with you. What you call the power of time is also known as the Lindy effect ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect) and Bitcoin fully benefits from it : in other words, time is playing in Bitcoin's favor. The longer Bitcoin survives => the longer (remaining) life expectancy => the more confidence people have in it => the more value it gains. The Lindy effect worked great for MySpace social networking websites. Fixed that for you, to correct the specious Gavinista talking point. Here, let me rub the point in your stupid face, because I like to preempt predictable knee-jerk counterarguments with rhetorical supremacy. The Lindy effect worked great for Pan American America West airline travel. The Lindy effect worked great for Trident 3dfx GPUs. The Lindy effect worked great for Deusenburg Packard automobiles. Now do you see what a colossal fucktard you are? Now do you appreciate how badly you'll get pwnd and rekt when you smart off to your superiors? BTW, what happened to your "thermos's censorship will aid XT's triumph, because Streisand Effect" talking point? Did it die, not with a bang but with a whimper, as everyone but a few zero-percenters laughed at your unethical, grossly exaggerated conflation of moderation and suppression? Gee that's too bad. Go try selling XT using FOMO somewhere else! This is not Reddit; we are not imbeciles here. |
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