So I've thought of a sure fire way to manipulate the market, send me xmr to sell if you want the price to rise and btc to buy if you want it to fall.  AND double your chances by doing the same with cAPSLOCK!  Good lord. What madness is this you are suggesting? |
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Yea, I'm American. Crap you narrowed it down from 7 billion to 300 million. That's like 23 times closer to figuring out my identity!
No one is going to have a clue to figure out who you are because you have privacy embedded right into your user name.  Us Monero shills are fairly crafty. |
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We may all be introverted nerds but we are the razors edge of the future. And for better or worse were all here sharing this together. I think it would be crazy fun. Just watching some of you play craps would be worth it.
I'm in if the 100k party happens.
I'll pitch in .01 to .05 worth when that day comes.
It would make the damn news.
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Bix Weir is a fucking moron. I have no doubt the Gox shenanigans. is a real market influence, but whoever that show host is offends me with his level of blockheadedness. |
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I'm worried about the mayor
he always takes these things so hard
Yeah. I have been thinking the same thing. Let's see if we can lure him back with some porn!   |
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I'm worried about the mayor
he always takes these things so hard
Yeah. I have been thinking the same thing. |
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I was excited about the Nano S, but becoming less so as I try to use it. I thought when I set one up a couple months back that it was functional but a pain. Now I can't make it connect at all, let alone every 5 or 6 tries like before. Some say its the cord, but having tried 3 different ones (but not the one I eventually made work sporadically earlier) I can't even use the damn thing, and their support is shit. /rant
The open source Monero hardware wallet can't arrive soon enough.
Ah yes there's another exciting thing. The Monero H/W wallet project. Also rumors of the Trezor getting it too... Sorry to hear that you had problems with the ledger, Explorer. Mine works like a charm... I wonder what's up with yours... are you using Linux? I use mine both on windows and arch linux. I don't think I've ever had a problem getting it to connect. But I did have to get the right libraries in drivers installed in arch. But once I did everything was working fine. Originally set up on windows. Typical message was plug it in and enter PIN. Typical response was crickets. Eventually If I kept trying it would recognize it and function (I set up 2 at that time, same issues) Now I'm trying to use the Ledger chrome apps on Chromium with Linux, and can't get any device recognition at all. Chromium gets the apps no problem. Tried 4 USB ports, all check out with my phone, so they are good. It's the Ledger Apps that don't seem to recognize it. Frustration barely describes it. Which Linux distro/version? We can take this off thread if you are interested. |
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I was excited about the Nano S, but becoming less so as I try to use it. I thought when I set one up a couple months back that it was functional but a pain. Now I can't make it connect at all, let alone every 5 or 6 tries like before. Some say its the cord, but having tried 3 different ones (but not the one I eventually made work sporadically earlier) I can't even use the damn thing, and their support is shit. /rant
The open source Monero hardware wallet can't arrive soon enough.
Ah yes there's another exciting thing. The Monero H/W wallet project. Also rumors of the Trezor getting it too... Sorry to hear that you had problems with the ledger, Explorer. Mine works like a charm... I wonder what's up with yours... are you using Linux? I use mine both on windows and arch linux. I don't think I've ever had a problem getting it to connect. But I did have to get the right libraries in drivers installed in arch. But once I did everything was working fine. |
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this is just a very late night (and too many g+ts) post....as most of you know i stoped postin here after fluffypony's hilarious 'lets' crach the market post' some months back. But seriously, can someone please gime me a precis as to what the fuck is going on..forks/airdrops/etc? XMR used to be the bes alt coin out thee,,,best etech, tech devs, best map,....this eens to heve gone to shit despite the fact it has been adopted by Dreamarket. So, what the fuck is going on?  I hve a LOT of capital tied up in XMR (basicLLY ceause Im a privacy nerd) but one thing I've realised in 5/6 yers of crypto is that the tech means nothng...its the polituiics behind the tech that a makes or brakes a project. Opiions of oldies are most welcome, trolls please keep your council. How nice it is to see you back. Along with the bulletproofs and the fork coin that's coming up (yuck) there is also the imminent release of the Ledger Nano (whew!) hardware wallet fro Monero. Also, work is ongoing for multisig... I think there possibly was a minor vulnerability found that is being patched hopefully. So I agree with anon that things are on the up and up development wise and as you mentioned real world acceptance is also increasing. It's a weird time post crypto run up. The price contraction is awfully difficult to watch. That is also obviously part of the reason that the Monero price is decreasing. Also including against Bitcoin just because all alts are under scrutiny and shrinking a little bit right now. I wish I was smart enough to be able to figure out where it's all going but instead I'm just gonna hold tight and watch the show. |
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I wonder...
Frequently when alts crash, XMR holds up better than most of the pack. But today it is the opposite. XMR seems to be losing more than usual.
I wonder if this might be somewhat influenced by the fact we could be following the pre-forkcoin selloff as the original date for the snapshot was today.
A certain percentage of people dumb enough to buy XMR to get the forkcoins would also be dumb enough not to have noticed they didn't get them yet and still sell off...
Just a thought.
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Today I'm assuming this dump is due to Google banning crypto-related ads. Things will calm down soon, as usual.
You know.. one thing I have not seen mentioned, though it may have been... Bitcoin does not have an advertising budget.  Dash does... So do lot's of shills and scammers. Think about that a little. |
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I agree with you.
Any thought's on the market?
I am a terrible speculator. I should probably not even post in this thread. I think XMR is suffering from a set of circumstances. 1. Last winter's crypto explosion, and current correction. Looks to me like Bitcoin is trying to decide if it is going to continue the bear or get back on the rocket. Looks to me like it is continuing the bear. This has a HUGE impact on all of crypto including XMR. 2. The forkcoin. This created some sort of "artificial" volume and hype moving us into the 30s and now that is gone. This combination looks short term bearish for XMR to me. I remain long term bullish on this project, and it's value. |
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ASICs are a direct speedway to centralization. Do you want to concentrate a lot of XMR essence/power into the hands of a Jihan Wu kind of guy?. Nothing good can come from that. Let´s keep the proyect open and distrubuted, even if in hands of botnets
Depending on the algorithm we might be handing that power to literally Jihan Wu himself. I imagine SHA256 would be a contender. Removing CPU friendliness also would kill browser mining, which unlike botnets, has some positive, in the light sorts of applications. Like salon.com I remain sold on being ASIC resistant. But this is a good conversation. |
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It seems that everybody is forgetting that thousands new holders are entering each day, while the supply is increasing very slowly, and that the next halvening is coming soon. I am sorry for your illness, but it seems you are still obsessed by losing-it-all nightmares.
But is supply really increasing slowly ? We get 144 blocks per day = 1800 Bitcoins That`s 18 Million USD (based on 10k) new money is needed every day just to hold the price steady. That is sort of true. A certain percentage of these mined coins are going to be held by the end users. Not knowing what that percentage is will allow us to determine that AT MOST we would need 18MM incoming to hold the price. But if, for example 1/2 are held we'd only need to absorb 9MM at current market prices. I tend to think how loose or tight the miners are has more to do with the direction and velocity of our price trend than in black and white though. |
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I am glad to see what appears to be a little bit of balance. I understand the ideal of one CPU one vote, but many folks who would argue against ASICs will also argue in defense of botnets. The botnet defense usually goes like: "They are securing the network, and they are incentivized not to wreck it by their financial stake". This exact same argument can be used for ASICs. I believe the question at the heart of this idea is clear: Is it desirable to stick to the original 1 CPU 1 vote vision? And if so, is it FEASIBLE to continue to enforce that vision? With ASICs already in the wild it is a very valid set of questions. If the answer to either is NO, then arguably we should move towards not only allowing ASIC development, but making it as easy as possible. Disclaimer - I have been fairly firmly in the "original vision" camp for a long time. But over the years I have grown more amenable to considering other options. If ASICs are readily available from several manufacturers/wholesalers/retailers at reasonable prices like CPUs and GPUs are I don't see why Monero shouldn't embrace them, but as of now that is not the case. Noob question, what is the benefit for ASIC mining and how is it different to the cryptonote? ASIC stands for Application specific integrated circuit. It is a absolutely targeted single use processor. Unlike a CPU or GPU which are designed to do lots of kinds of computations well an ASIC is designed to do a SINGLE thing as well as possible. They are expensive to produce. Cryptonote mining is designed to be ASIC resistant. But I suppose building an ASIC resistant algorithm is like building an unpick-able lock. |
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I am glad to see what appears to be a little bit of balance. I understand the ideal of one CPU one vote, but many folks who would argue against ASICs will also argue in defense of botnets. The botnet defense usually goes like: "They are securing the network, and they are incentivized not to wreck it by their financial stake". This exact same argument can be used for ASICs. I believe the question at the heart of this idea is clear: Is it desirable to stick to the original 1 CPU 1 vote vision? And if so, is it FEASIBLE to continue to enforce that vision? With ASICs already in the wild it is a very valid set of questions. If the answer to either is NO, then arguably we should move towards not only allowing ASIC development, but making it as easy as possible. Disclaimer - I have been fairly firmly in the "original vision" camp for a long time. But over the years I have grown more amenable to considering other options. |
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Oh my. You have a royal "we" going on? Probably in your imagination unless you and your girlfriends surf the WO like this?
no, explorer speaks for me in this matter Same here. |
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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?
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If Bitcoin cant eat 40k coins dump at times when half world was hyping about Bitcoin. Everyone was talking about it and try to open account on some exchange. If that is the case, then it have zero future. 40k coins. What if Satoshi shows up and dump his? what will be then? Nuclear winter?
 "Look at that lazy fuck." -Randall |
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If I never read the phrase "pumpin' horns" again I will not regret it...
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