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4121  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 01, 2015, 08:21:58 AM
How low can this possibly go?  I'm thinking 160ish

I would speculate 180'sh . Because if it goes to 160, then we are definitely going to see a more lower point after that.
Yep. Tons of stops are placed at 200$, market is still in despair phase, testing of even 140$ is highly possible now.

Yes lets totally ignore the fact that the dumped coins were borrowed (levereged shorts) and even if they could come up with just another 30% downpayment to dump again, they can't cause there are only about BTC3k left total on finex. Oh i'm sorry another newbie predicting the doom and gloom of BTC without anything to back it up, on ignore list you go

Better sell now, else you will be panicking below 200. Btc is very bearish, just look at the candlesticks - hammers on daily, 3-day, weekly and nobody is buying. Why the hell do you think we are again at 200 and not above 300?

Why the hell do you think all the trolls come out when the price gets near to breaking out from the down trend lines?

The tape is being painted and it is being walked down ... the idiot TA traders, chart followers and weak hands fall for it every time. At some point though the real bitcoin supply dries up and it doesn't matter what the charts are saying, they are all gone ... short that shit and you're dead.
4122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 01, 2015, 07:59:55 AM
Something for all shorts of limited issuance goods to ponder ...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/29/the-same-thing-that-ruined-the-housing-market-is-now-ruining-the-super-bowl.html

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In the 2015 Super Bowl ticket market, short selling has again played a major role, but this time around, anyone that shorted the market is now looking at losses of as much as $8,000 for each ticket.
4123  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 11:06:14 PM
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Easily resolved by lowering the difficulty. Next.

Did you look at the graph? Difficulty has never gone down significantly, at worst it plateaus ... so, you and who's army? Next.
4124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 10:57:20 PM
The current average cost of production of bitcoins is in excess of $300. Purchasing a good below cost of production is considered cheap. Make the most, it wont last.


The actual cost is around 90$, for some miners even less.

Average cost ... reading comprehension problems?
4125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 10:53:51 PM
The current average cost of production of bitcoins is in excess of $300. Purchasing a good below cost of production is considered cheap. Make the most, it wont last.

How did you get this figure of cost of production?
4126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2015, 10:37:38 PM
The current average cost of production of bitcoins is in excess of $300. Purchasing a good below cost of production is considered cheap. Make the most, it wont last.
4127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Coinbase pissed off some people with lawyers on: January 31, 2015, 09:55:19 PM
At a minimum, it was unprofessional for Coinbase to be rocket/lunar hyping the pump (return of the Gox willy bot anyone?) and sowing confusion with vague statements regarding the licencing/regulated status of their new exchange operations.
4128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: January 31, 2015, 09:41:34 PM
trolls can relax, scaling is a solved problem, and has been since mid-2011. Implementations are now coming into public domain, just as the market demand arises.

Off-chain payment channels, incl. blinded hub-spoke, are an elegant, cheap, fast, privacy-enhancing mechanism that has as good security as full btc TX by essentially aggregating many TX into a single daily/weekly/monthly on-chain settlement TX.

Side-chains are a side-show that wont be effective for regular TX (too complicated), maybe useful for more exotic derivatives, smart contracts, stock-trading, bonds and etc, but do not let them be a distraction in the scaling 'debate' (which is over now in knowledgeable circles).
4129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 11:37:03 PM

Luckily, on a bitcoin forum, it is highly unlikely anyone would have serious savings in Brazilian reals.

yea, you are probably right.

Brazilian Reals look like a complete Amway product hype network marketing ploy, can't believe anybody would have fallen for them, I mean where's the technological backing? Once the Brazilian goverment runs out of new marks to foist debt onto the whole thing will implode on itself.
4130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Coinbase pissed off some people with lawyers on: January 30, 2015, 11:31:53 PM
a bitcoin exchange on the scam? nah, couldn't be could it?
4131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: January 30, 2015, 11:27:43 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/denmark-you-are-now-paid-take-out-mortgage

in centrally banked Denmark, the mortgage takes out you.

Negative interest rate mortgages for some customers on floating rates ... wonder if that 'income' stream is tax-exempt? So if you need bigger income just take a out a bigger mortgage? win-win?
4132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 10:54:52 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/brazils-economy-verge-total-collapse
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/mexican-peso-collapsing

brazilian Real and mexican Peso fiat pyramid schemes unravelling faster than usual
4133  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: January 30, 2015, 10:17:12 PM
when its comes to financial security people will always pay premium for brand

Not integrity? By that logic, we'd all be using mainstream banking, credit/debit cards with Norton Internet Security Suite on brand new Windows 8.1.

ummm, most people are ... and I agree that it is not logical.

Bitcoiners are a discerning bunch seeking integrity, in the vanguard of what will become the premium brands. By definition, most people involved with bitcoin before now are trend-setters, not followers.
4134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 10:01:32 PM
You would come across a lot better if you dropped the insulting attitude BTW

... just dressing for the occasion. I didn't create the cesspit this place has become.
4135  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: January 30, 2015, 09:50:17 PM
 Smiley good call slush/stick ... in the long run, when its comes to financial security people will always pay premium for brand ... e.g., swiss banks, old money funds, etc.
4136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: January 30, 2015, 09:46:14 PM
https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/randomwalker/nine-awesome-bitcoin-projects-at-princeton/

the best and brightest are doing their final projects on bitcoin extensions, apps, overlay protocols (this reminds me exactly of stanford/cisco in 1990 and I wonder how long until we get bitcoin router blue-boxes ... explain to me again how the internet is just a fad?
4137  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 09:37:59 PM
https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/randomwalker/nine-awesome-bitcoin-projects-at-princeton/

I think we are well past the 'experiment' stage when the best and brightest are doing bitcoin for final year projects ... this is not beanie babies and tulips we are dealing with here you chumps.

Some really awesome projects in here btw, these guys are doing great work, engaged and excited by it ... go find that on wall st.
4138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 08:27:05 AM

NYSE having some lulz at the 'regulators' expense most likely. It is not even clear in law what 'license' is necessary to trade distributed database rights accessible only by privately held cryptographic keys.
4139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 06:44:49 AM
Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.

10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too.

It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute.

I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh).

These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon.
4140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2015, 04:30:49 AM

they still have bitcoin
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