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4121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 28, 2016, 06:04:24 AM
It's wrong to waste money, if that's happening to you then I think it's wrong.
It is wrong if you use money that is originally for the needs of your family and instead you will use it to gamble hoping to make it grow. gambling should not be a source of income it is just for fun and only extra money should be use. many people became addicted because they want to get back what they lose.

because it all begins there. A harmless bet just for fun, then you win and you enjoyed that feeling. Then you will come back again to bet , and again and again. Then you become a gambling addict. It may not happen to you, but it happens. And many people still believe that if they just gamble for fun they will not be a victim and it is not wrong.
4122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 27, 2016, 09:37:50 PM
Gambling is wrong when you always lost but you always try to win and lost again. don't do it as addiction, dont put your money you don't want to lose by gambling ,and dont do gambling as a job because there's no sure profit in it.

Well actually gambling itself is really wrong even if you are winning every game in it, Well a lot will not going to agree with my post but to think that gambling is not wrong is indeed wrong! the concept of gambling itself is indeed wrong because it is tempting people to throw away their money, tempting people to give in to their greed, often taking advantage of poor people who think they can gain instant wealth, or people would rather affirm the existence of luck and chance!

I believe gambling itself is not wrong, but the people who can't control their emotion make it wrong.
Because they are not smart and believe this way of easy money making is good, they ruin their life's but also the gambling as a game.

It is wrong because gambling feeds on those types of people, the weak and the desperate. It makes money by making them believe that they can make easy money by gamblig though the gambling houses will just give them very low odds. Desperate people will bite that chance just to have a chance to survive or make a living out of it.
4123  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 25, 2016, 10:03:03 PM
Better it's invest i guess, cause with investing your money may you will make money be better. But you still things be sure for invest or not. make it's better when chance happens. Goodluck Buddy.
I think its not better to invest, if you're investing in ponzi pyramid scam, I think this is not better. Because you're helping that ponzi to scam other people by referring them. But I think there are some investments that were legit, but the profit there is so slow. So I suggest to save your bitcoin than investing it.

Of course when we say investments we mean the real investments. Not the kind that promises high profit on short period of time that turns into scam in a few months. Do not limit yourself on investments found on online ads. Most of them are scams. Get out in the real world and look for investments in there. There are investments like real estate, stocks, bond funds or equity funds. These are real investments that actually give high profits.
4124  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: World is really moving toward space age ! on: July 25, 2016, 09:55:27 AM
I think even before bitcoin were implemented, space age had began.  There are  lots of project from different stronger country on space exploration.  Even they are trying space colonization project. 

"The Space Age is a time period encompassing the activities related to the Space Race, space exploration, space technology, and the cultural developments influenced by these events. The Space Age is generally considered to have begun with Sputnik (1957)  that is from wikidpedia.

Read more in here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Age

Yeah, space age begun when humans started to explore the space beyond planet earth. And it fully materialize when a human stepped on the moon and lived on space stations.

and I also think block chain has nothing to do with space age. You cannot use block chain to create tools that can be useful to conquer space. And even if it is mentioned on sci fi movies, there is no real application there. It is all product of imagination.
4125  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 25, 2016, 09:42:35 AM
no i am not going to quit my job. it is my way of earning and the earning from bitcoin i consider it as an extra income and it just fulfill my pocket money.
I think it's not a problem for make bitcoin as an extra income, because the work on bitcoin is easy and only takes a little time. if you can still divide their time between working at a real job bitcoin and I think that's not a problem to have two jobs. but if it disturb you. you have to choose one among the two jobs it?

There is not much time consumption if you are only doing signature campaign. But other jobs like campaign managers, or escrows or traders will need more time to do their job. If their online jobs can be more productive than their offline jobs, then I think they can consider switching and leave their jobs for bitcoin. Otherwise, yeah, doing bitcoin as part time is always good.
4126  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 25, 2016, 09:37:13 AM
Keep it! Now a days! lot of investments are getting scam . so it's not safe when you invest your money. Just play safe ! if i were you you keep it or use it on trading Smiley

At any given time, there will always be a scammer around. But that does not mean you have to stop investing because you are scared to be scammed. You can arm yourself with knowledge so you can spot scammers easily. You just have to do your due diligence of investigating and researching before you let go of your money. If you are lazy and avoid the necessary research before investing, then investing is really not for you. But I tell you, you cannot grow your money like you grow it in investments, stocks and businesses.
4127  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why? on: July 23, 2016, 08:08:51 PM
Yes, now i am buying because of investment purpose. Before i was used to buy bitcoin to bet in different betting sites.but I loose most of my coins there.

Very sad story. Those coins could have easily doubled its value if it was bought just 10 months ago. And it was lost due to gambling. Good thing you have learned your lesson. Never gamble hard earned money.  Since you are into investment now, maybe you could also try trading. Maybe you can earn back the bitcoins you have lost before.
4128  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 23, 2016, 03:07:30 PM
Are you inspired by those bitcoin millionaires? Are you thinking of filing a resignation letter on your day job (if you have any) and focus on bitcoin instead?

Me? I do have a day job and I consider bitcoin as my side job. I don't want to lose that another source of income just because bitcoin is awesome.

I earned this month 50$ with Bitcoins so no chance to quit my day job any time soon =/

For me Bitcoins is kind of hobby I am doing in my spare time. I guess you need to get into mining to actually live from it.


It is a good amount if you are earning $50 / month. But for me mining is really going to be hard at all if you are going to rely on it. Because the mining difficulty now has become more higher and more difficult to mine. Not only that, but you need also to buy hardware mining rig and need to invest.
So, work for bitcoin and also your full time.
If you are just a small time miner don't bother because such operation is not profitable. You just invest in mining sites and that is effortless for you. Also, there are a lot of jobs online so we should take the opportunity to do it to add up your income.

Just be careful in choosing the right mining site to invest in. Some of them are up to no good and are just there to scam you. I do not actually know how to determine which sites are scams so I guess you just have to follow the old adage, " if its too good to be true then it probably is".
4129  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: July 23, 2016, 03:00:58 PM
Maybe it is a very good decision to use it as an investment but for me, I don't mind about the investment for now it is important for me to use it as a currency because I really need a money for some of my expenses and I am almost dying just to get a solution for it good thing that I have discovered bitcoin .

Yes and I think that bitcoin is a currency and it should be used as a currency then only it will take price of bitcoin to a higher level in future.
and currency is used for buying and selling good. but what can we do if we have no such facilities in the local market. therefore we are only holding it and can wait for the price increase.

If you are not able to spend it directly then you should sell it and convert it to your local currency and then spend, as the circulation of bitcoin is very important.

No, it is not the real circulation of bitcoin, the real circulation is that where you use your bitcoin for buying services and goods and use bitcoin for all of your transactions, it is actually good for the success of bitcoin, and selling it is not its circulation, but it is its rejection and its dumping.

Bitcoins are still moving even if you dump it for fiat. It is still circulating. And dumpers lowers the price of bitcoin which attracts more pumpers and gives good opportunities for traders to earn money. It is not just services or goods that is good for bitcoin circulation. Sometimes dumping for fiat is good too, imho.
4130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: July 23, 2016, 01:47:49 PM
Gambling can wreck your life when you put everything at stake and all is busted otherwise loosing some bucks can make you frustrate but can not have huge effect on your life. Gambling fixes life I don't believe this can happen as it is just disastrous soon you are going to give all winnings back if you win some jackpot too.

It is very true and a lot of people who already feel over it, but I see that everyone be like that because it is not a good self control in the face of all the chances of that happening in gambling
Maybe self-control save your life with gambling. As gambling means a lot of things beyond our control, only very few things (like low bet amount) we can apply our thoughts and skill to make them to be under our control. If we use those things properly, we can make our life gets fixed from gambling profits.
Don't get overestimate about making gambling profits. You will never able to make profits from gambling even you control many things including yourself. Because, beyond those things and your self control there is a major factor which decides the profits of gambling which is luck. Luck is always out of our control so your life will get wrecked over time with gambling.
Need to agree with the you. With whatever things we are playing and whatever strategies we are developing newly, only luck will decide how our gambling will finish up at the end of the day. As long as gambling is based on our luck, there is no point to put hard work to make our life get fixed with gambling.
If I am a serious gamble I would not rely on luck alone and I could not just trust my money with my luck. Gambling should be taken seriously and we should employ all the necessary techniques to win in gambling.

If you cannot follow the method in gambling you will lose in the long run and that will wreck your life due to failure to implement your system.

The nature of gambling is based on luck. So whatever strategies or techniques you implement, it has very little effect on your game compared to the effect of luck. This is particularly true to games like dice or roulette. Even on sports betting where stats is prevalent factor on determining the team to bet, luck can still play a major factor and determine the winner.
4131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: July 23, 2016, 10:09:57 AM
I have reached the point after thinking a lot on this whether I was still playing or not in case of being rich. I think I was not playing because having other activities much more useful than staying just front of computer screen. I am not trying to get rich neither now. Rich people just go to casino to have some fun with some limited amount of money regardless of the result.

You are right. There is a world of activities you can do that is more productive and more essential than just gambling. Gambling in my opinion is just a waste of time especially if it occupies most of your time. It is just good if you do it once in a while to relieve stress. But more than that, it is a waste of time.
4132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 23, 2016, 06:11:20 AM
Maybe can't really understand that gambling can be wrong? Somehow an entertainment business where are never be wrong. And one of that is bad us which can't even control ourselves, if you can control it make sure you will earn some of your profit.
not really sure if gambling can't be wrong if you even could control yourself to not being greedy , soon or later this game would annoyed you and mess the whole of your live once you addicted to it , so don't be addicted and just play it occasionally.
What are the chances that you get addicted into something even if you just do it occasionally? Probably high. Look at drugs, it only take a sniff of it and will have a hold on you. You will be addicted to it. The same with gambling, occasional gambling becomes frequent until it becomes the major part of your life and you addicted to it. You cannot control it, it controls you. And thay is bad.
4133  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: July 23, 2016, 05:49:40 AM
One of the best saving strategies is to pay yourself first. What this means is that you designate a certain amount of your paycheque as your pay (how novel) and you pay that money to yourself before you pay your bills or anyone else. This amount can be $25, $100 or maybe 10% of your paycheque. It can be any amount that you decide. The important part is that you pay yourself first rather than last. Most people pay all of the bills first and then save anything that might be left over. For most people, that method of saving doesn’t really work because nothing is left over to save.

If you pay yourself first, then money will get saved because paying yourself is now your first priority. The nice thing about this method is if your budget is a little tight, it forces you to make adjustments elsewhere and your savings continue to grow.

Paying yourself first also makes sense. Why are you going to work everyday anyway? To earn money for someone else? No way. You go to work to earn money for you and your family. That’s why you should pay yourself first—to make sure that your first priority is taken care of: you. It is not likely that anyone else is going to take care of you because they assume that you are taking care of yourself.

That is actually the best way to save money if someone is really serious about it, and if someone's salary is a little high or good enough he can save a good amount everytime he gets his salary, in that way he will not also have to do any adjustments because his salary is enough to cover everything.

If you want to be safe then saving money in fixed deposits is the best thing to do as you also get good interests from it which can be more valuable in future.
I think you are referring to savings in a bank. We should also consider that saving in a bank will only give us the security to safe keep our money but the interest would not suffice. It is still advisable that we need also to invest some from our savings to have a better future ahead of us.

That's true investment will help in giving us good profits in future which is not possible with savings but to have good balance I think one should go with both of them.

Correct, investment would be a big help on growing on your money rather than on saving it but its not bad to have savings but if youre a wise man get a little part of that savings and invest into something that you know that you can gain profit. So, if youre already gaining profit then you add it into savings just continue  the process then youll succedd on the end.
Investment can help you achieve your dream and by doing it you should be ambitious enough as that is too risky and you need to prepare yourself if the other way around happens. If one can succeed in saving money, he can also be successful in investing.

There are types of investment that is not too risky. If you are not a type of person that is a risk taker, you can take those types of investment. That includes but not limited to bond funds and balanced funds. Those investments can have a good interest rates that can beat inflation but the risk is just low.
4134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: July 23, 2016, 03:01:16 AM
Dirk Nowitzki and the Dallas Mavericks have finalized his new contract worth $50 million over two seasons. The deal contains $30 million in guaranteed money and a team option for Year 2 if he decides to play in the 17-18 season.
Respect to both Cuban and Dirk, they know their priorities. I was hoping Wade and the Heat would have a mutual understanding..but its extremely rare to see nowadays.
That was a good decision made by dirk, not like Durant that leaves his franchise team just to go with the previous champion. Dirk is still fun to watch though he was aging already and not the same level as he was when younger.

Dirk has already proven that he can be a champion. He already won a ring with dallas. All what is left for him now is play and serve the team he has been loyal until his retirement day. Respect for dirk for sticking with his team on ups and downs. Unlike the younger player nowadays without any loyalty.
4135  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 22, 2016, 03:29:48 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?

Save little money for emergency and invest large amount in bitcoin or gold keeping in bank wont earn you much
Saving money is allot saver then investing it because you know that when you save it is 100% going to pay off.
With investing you are not sure of that and that can be stressful because you also have to wait a long time.


Saving is very good for us but it doesn't give us profit, If you want to get profit or want to increase you coins then you have to invest your coins in different business from where you can earn some more bitcoins. The important thing is that you just invest your money in a business, from where you know that you will definitely earn some money.
Actually savings should be our first priority, once we have enough savings already we should think of investing from our savings. Just ensure that the amount we invest is the amount we can afford to lose as investing will not guarantee you a profit although there is a big chance that you can get good amount of profit.
Yeah, saving is the first step into financial freedom. Be sure to create seperate accounts or savings for emergencies, leisure and investments. Once you completed this and you have them funded, you can start thinking of starting a business or investing. The savings will protect you if ever your chosen venture will fail.
4136  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: July 22, 2016, 03:17:22 PM
I used Bitcoins as currency and investment in my daily routine in life.
That's the good things about Bitcoins very flexible, we can use it as mode of payment online shopping, Billings, and transfer money and etc. Smiley
Thats right, i used bitcoin also for that purposes. it has so many uses and that is the good thing about bitcoin. you will able to use it to earn and as currency.

and the most attractive feature of it is that, it gives much faster profit to the traders, before this currency the traders used gold and other assets for their trade an for that they often invest thousands of dollars and will have to wait for many years but now bitcoin is doing the same job in hours and says.

No, before this, they are doing forex and experienced forex traders earn a lot of money too in short period of time. But they are using fiat and they have to fund their account a lot of money so they can  cover some losses in margin trading. Normal people will have a hard time to keep their trades if flow goes against them. But bitcoin and altcoin trading made it easier for small time traders to experience the action.
4137  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 22, 2016, 03:10:24 PM
Or you can earn your salary in bitcoin, change to fiat if you need to. Or find solutions which allow you to stay within the bitcoin ecosystem
of course I and you will do the conversion or change your income from bitcoin to fiat. due to this moment you know that bitcoin is not appropriate to be major currencies. to be a job I think bitcoin still suitable but for living in bitcoin. I'm not sure of that
but if you already earning a couple of bitcoin in a daily basis becasue on what you are just example trading or offering services i think that earnings is enough to quit and focus with bitcoin and that is not impossible if you looks on the trading site many many whales and investors are their now putting their time because they know that they found their bread and butter.
We should quit our job if we see that we are earning more in the crypto world base on the time spent against the time spent in real job. I know in Asia they work 8 hours a day and will receive a fix rate like $10 for 8 hours of work but that is so manageable that we can get by working online.

But that is like the minimum pay for an average employee and most of the time that amount is not enough to feed a family. It is best if you do not quit your job, build a career on it. And while your salary is still very low, supplement it with what you earn in bitcoin. You do not spend too much time in earning bitcoin anyway. Plus you enjoy the perks of your jobs like bonuses and health benefits and still earn bitcoin on the sides. Never throw something that is still very useful.
4138  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why? on: July 22, 2016, 03:03:26 PM
i havent bought any bitcoin yet but i will cause i should,i plan to use it as capital for trading and otger ways of earning
if you want to trade you must have enough capital. if you do not have the capital then you can not do that. if you would have the capital then you should buy or collect bitcoin first

Or he could start small by buying and selling bitcoin. You can always start small while still getting the right amount of bitcoin you need to start margin trading. And while you are still on that process of collecting coins, you can study strategies and advance your skills thru practice trading in forex.

yes those are my plans,my childhood friend gave me tips but i still dont understand most of it. actually he's the one who told me about this org and told me to explore this if i want to earn

You cannot get all the concepts and strategies on one sitting. You need to spend time learning it and more time experiencing it either on practice or real trading. As you get more experience trading, the better you'll get. And be prepared for a lot of failures and disappointments. Even experienced traders still experience failures and disappointments from time  to time.
4139  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: July 22, 2016, 02:22:38 PM
it doesn't happen that often maybe because i don't trade bitcoin a lot and only go long with it so my positions are solid and never miss anything major to cause any regret.

and in my altcoin trading that i go short i never miss anything either because i try my best to stay aware of the price movements and the news about what i have invested in.

That is a way to be on top of your trades. Remember to always check the price and be always on the lookout for relevant news that may force the price to go up or down. And also, just to add, you can also set a stop so just incase something happens and you can't check your trades, it will execute when it hits the target price.
4140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 22, 2016, 02:16:30 PM
Gambling is only so addicting if you are winning unless you are just gambling for fun. When i am playing poker i don't care how much i lose or i win because poker is my favorite game.
I think it depends on the playing control on everyone. there are players who play just for fun still he became an addict thinking that gambling is very pleasant and not a matter of spending money on gambling lol
there are also players who dared to stop when in a state wins. because he has little control


Yeah, even if you gamble just for fun, there is still a chance you will be addicted to it if you like the game so much and if you have very little control or discipline to yourself.  Just like when you are playing video games. At first, you just play it for fun or just to past time. But if you like it too much, you will never notice time and before you know it you've played the whole day and still wanted to play more. The same goes with gambling.
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