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4121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: September 29, 2016, 07:27:35 AM
Well, controlling the gambler temper in gambling is a bit hard, especially when you losing your bets on gambling. Your temper will increase and will bet more.
of course it is really hard, in my opinion it is nearly impossible actually, thats why i dont play a lot of it

its really hard and this is become harder if we don't have other positive activity in our life, just sit in front of our computer and playing a card or playing poker online. we don't know what actually we want with our life, just continue the life itself with just playing a card pr playing poker.

A lot of people simply feel awesome when gambling, but end in depression when they lose in the end. We should be very careful about it because it's dangerous for both our money and emotions. People who are already sad and are trying out their luck hoping for at least a good thing to happen that day will have even worse emotions at the end of the day..
4122  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Investing my $2,000,000 Into bitcoin (advice me) on: September 29, 2016, 07:17:42 AM
Deposit it now in your wallet and you will have way more by the next year. I have no idea what to suggest you except finding an expert. We may be good at ideas or advices but we're not experts and our idea may or may not be profitable for you. If you really have two million bucks, you should make a business out of it. With only $5k, you can create your own Bitcoin casino. Or what about a physical Bitcoin casino? Where we can go and authenticate with our wallets, deposit on some machines and play there. It would be the first one.
4123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: September 29, 2016, 07:13:35 AM
I agree with what you've all said sir. Nobody wins in gambling because there's no such thing on gambling. Most of the people who do gambling thinks that they are lucky whenever they win, but is it really their luck because they win? I think it's not. Letting them win is just a plan of gambling houses like Casinos and so on. They are doing this on purpose in order to the gamblers get more addicted on what they are doing but most of the gamblers are just ignoring this fact about gambling that's why most of them ended up from a rich one to a broke one because they've loss all of their money and all their property in this stupid way of earning a living.
yeah, in gambling it is impossible to have a strategy that never fails so i think it is better to just not play gambling for a long time

Well we can't simply stop addicted gamblers and say that 'don't gamble if you don't want to lose' because there is an extreme feeling that they are not able to survive if they are not going to gamble. And I think that gambling is just designed for the gamblers to lose whatever is going to be their way of winning still in the end they are going to lose.
Losing in gambling is acceptable if we only lose the amount that we can afford to lose, that's is the basic principle in gambling that everyone should follow because once you lose your money not intended for gambling you will really regret the time you know gambling.

But it's very hard for many of us to manage that amount of money both when we lose and when we win. When we lose we want our money back while when we win we want just more and more profit. I've been through this stage several times and it's hard to control yourself, especially when you got money on you. Therefore, going to a casino with only the amount you can afford to lose in your pocket might help you.
4124  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: September 29, 2016, 07:08:13 AM
I don't think so, because most of us see Bitcoin as being a trading or gambling currency. If it was stable, trading wasn't as profitable so many traders wouldn't have been here. But on the plus side, the price being stable COULD mean Bitcoin being used as a global currency already. I'm curious what Bitcoin will be by the next winter.
4125  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining in 20 years time on: September 29, 2016, 07:03:58 AM
In 20 years, a 1TH/s rig will be absolutely nothing. If Bitcoin will make it until then, the price will be at an insane amount and mining will be only for the rich. We will also be rich then, because of the huge price. I can't really predict much though, because you never know what the future is going to be for us.
4126  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: September 29, 2016, 07:01:01 AM
If we buy or sell from someone of course we can manipulate bitcoin price, but if we sell or buy from exchanger of course can't

When we're using an exchange, the transactions are being completed on the Blockchain too. This means the price can be manipulated by exchanges too, and this is part of the price business. If I had a million bucks and would transfer it dozens of times, the price would be instantly up a few dollars. We're part of the price, we make it change.
4127  Other / Off-topic / Re: What will you do if you own 21 BTC? on: September 29, 2016, 04:44:39 AM
21 BTC is a huge number in my local currency..It is around 0.9 million. So if I have 21 BTC then I will be able to fulfil one of my dreams of owning a superbike which costs around 0.8 million in my local currency.

Or else, I can save the money for my future and invest it in some regulated investment in my country so that I can get some good and assured return from bitcoin.

Investing it in some business is way better. You're going to spend all your money, yes, but if you got a great, unique idea.. You can turn that 21 Bitcoins into hundreds, even thousands. Spending them on just one thing you want will be an action that you probably will regret in the future, when you'll get bored of that super bike or when it's going to be old. Investing can return you profit with which you can buy whatever you like.
4128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 29, 2016, 04:31:41 AM
Gambling is very addicted because we think when we gamble we can will win but this is not a actual fact because there a Similar Chances of Making Profit Or losing all your Funds

Yeah, gambling online casinos are always fooling us when letting us 'choose the bet multiplier'. But if we're looking close at it and if we calculate, it's all about more or less bets. The chance is still 50%, I've lost even two times in a row with 97% chance of winning. And if you choose a high multiplier, you need to bet less amounts but it takes way less time than playing with a very low multiplier. Whether you do 5 bets with 10% chance or 100 bets with 75%, you'll still reach the same amount in the end.
4129  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PayPal receiving Bitcoin?! on: September 29, 2016, 04:27:33 AM
PayPal and Bitcoin are starting to become 'friends' since the Xapo CEO has been hired by them. Maybe we'll see some collaboration, but we have to know and pay attention to one thing: as soon as PayPal or any credit card or bank gets in business with Bitcoin, the Bitcoin's privacy will be over for many of us. I prefer sitting in front of my computer and having a totally anonymous wallet instead of the partnership with PayPal, which also is in partnership with MasterCard etc..
4130  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: September 29, 2016, 04:24:20 AM
It is predictable if you have people to count on. Billionaires always know what, how and when some event will take place and whether will it make the market rise or fall. Haven't you ever wondered how do they know what to bet for and against everytime? Because they know what's going to happen. Some, like George Soros, even had records of 'breaking a bank'. He did the same bet twice over twenty years, and surprisingly.. He won both of them! Would you bet billions on something? I mean come on, he got just a few tens of billions. Betting a few of them is risky for his business. But yes, he knew the answer MONTHS before the Brexit vote so he was able to make money out of his knowledge.
4131  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Bitcoint doubler prooved. on: September 28, 2016, 08:59:18 PM
we cant use in this forum reflink because i was already shared reflink in forum and banned 2 weeks so try to delete this post faster because you will be banned,read rules

how to delete ;C i cant ;C

At least replace the ref link with the original website link. Also, be cautious: the website has a bad reputation. Before using a website, please research. Look up 'BitcoinKing.org scam', and you will find out more about it. Don't you see? It looks too good to be true. Yes, you have 'doubled' your money... But you have to keep in mind that it's just a virtual number on a website. You won't be able to withdraw it. Be VERY careful!
4132  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Someone told me HASHOCEAN is coming back on: September 28, 2016, 08:53:47 PM
So the scam is returning.... Of course, I mean the owners didn't steal enough money, did they?? Grin we all know it was a scam, but poor newcomers........ They will be scammed. The worst thing here is that these kinds of scams are providing Bitcoin negative trust. This means people quitting Bitcoin or potential newcomers staying away from it. I wish there weren't such people in our community..
4133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: September 28, 2016, 08:50:06 PM
I think it is same  mean  and gambling is gambling  what is different on sport or not or with bitcoin or not ? what is your purpose when you in gambling ? My purose  is make more money with gambling because of it is same  for me.

It isn't really the same. If we're going to think like you, it means having a restaurant is like owning a casino because you make money out of both businesses. Wrong, because they are completely different.. I see gambling as a way of stealing your money without you ever being able to think about your decision. For example, in a soccer match between Portugal and a very small, new team means OBVIOUSLY that Portugal will win. But when it comes to dice games... Oh well, it's all about your pure luck.
4134  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Bitcoin will be worth in July 2017 ? on: September 28, 2016, 08:46:09 PM
to me the price of bitcoin will be trading about 1500$, and the reason is that as it is expecting that the price of bitcoin will cross 1200$ invest few months or just at the end of 2016, therefore in 2017 the price of bitcoin will be trading above 1500$.

Bitcoin farmers are waiting to renew their miner hardware, which usually happens at the end of the year. So this year, we'll start seeing the results of the halving which happened a few months ago. By the next year, I predict a price of up to 100x of the one at the moment of writing this post ($604). This means $60.400, yes. Sounds like a dream, but this dream became true in 2013 when nobody EVER thought Bitcoin is able to rise so fast, so high. That was the test for this year, when things are going to get real. Do you really think Bitcoin having 9 numbers is just a coincidence? In years, a satoshi will be as much as a faucet pays today.
4135  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: September 28, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
It depends on the standard of living that you consider satisfactory, and the country where you will live, since the cost of living is an important factor. But I believe that anywhere, 100 BTCs would be enough in twenty years.

Indeed.  It also depends on the country you want to retire and live and spend your retirement fund.  I would suggest to live here in our country since cost of living here is cheaper just like countries in Asia.  I would make more bitcoin as far and as long as I can because I do not know what its price is for the next 20 years. 

If you want to retire in a country with cheap living cost, it is possible to have 100 bitcoins in a few decades.

Amout is based on country you live
It may be that 1000 wont be enough and soe where 10 is enough

10 BTC is impossible to be enough to live off even half a life. Remember, you need to have food, water, supplies, necessary things like toothpaste, toilet paper etc, electronics, you have to pay your rent/facilities and many others. With $6k you can basically do nothing, you can spend them off in maximum two months. Or you can go and live like a homeless, but that won't help you with anything because it's not the style of living you really want.
4136  Other / Off-topic / Re: What you do with BITCOIN ? on: September 28, 2016, 08:21:09 PM
Okay so I have just found about 10 online stores in my country that accept Bitcoin. One of them is among the top 5 in my country, which is very good news for me. Until now I thought I can't do anything with my earned Bitcoin, but it looks like I found out something! I am now saving my money to buy some stuff from the online stores.
4137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Share your winning Experience on any gambling site!!! on: September 28, 2016, 08:17:48 PM
Yobit dice. I dont know how I did it but I really made a 100ksats to 500k. I just played the click button from opening the dice section and clicking the 51+ bet before the page is fully loaded. Close it again then open after 5 minutes. With a series of that I did made a lot but I cannot repeat it anymore and it is like they are taking back what I earned. House is really a winner there.
You are lucky that you made some profit in yobit honestly i tried to play there but i did not made any profit most of my play there are lose better to trade  some altcoin there it mades me profit than playing dice game there.

I don't think the website is what you can blame on. We're playing it, we know we're probably going to lose. Trading is known already for being more profitable than gambling is just because some personalities like the rich people know what will happen next, so they know what to bet for/against. We don't have access to such information, so we are losers most of the time.
4138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 28, 2016, 08:14:18 PM
to gambling in a smart way is we must have experienced with gambling, we must have big capital for learn and speculation if loss

If we have good experience in particular game like poker or in sports matches than there is some chance to survive, all of other games are just based on our luck so that I think there is no previous experience required to play on casino, big capital doesn't give us guarantee to keep us in win win situation.
Yes, only some select gambling types may ensure the safe way of gambling. Others are just luck based and expecting a safe gambling with them is highly insane. If you expect a larger bankroll might give safe way of gambling, then you must need infinity bankroll to get you profits at the end of your dicing.

Indeed gambling is not easy and its not something that you can do easily at all times, it stays risky and has a lot of risks involved.
I think that there is no way to gamble smart.

Control yourself. That is the strategy you all are looking for. Don't look for others because I tell you, none of them will work. Our best strategy is the brain itself. You choose how much to play with, what the multiplier should be, how much you want to get in profit, etc.. If you will control yourself, you will find out that you're being just fooled sometimes by these casinos. You want to win, they want your money. They aren't built to give you money but to take yours.
4139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: September 28, 2016, 08:01:48 PM
i think it s not necessary that every one loses in the long run, i have a person experience about this, i personally know about some people in fact they are also our relative that they made a good money in gambling,
In gambling, there are many people made a huge profit I agree that, But in which game your relative made good money, please share here. In slot games, it is not at all possible. I think he made a profit in sports betting or any other skill games like Poker etc. Because slot games are based on luck. The success will not work in long run method.
Yeah in sports betting or Poker you can actually make pretty good profit as lons as you do it for fun and also make some research beforehand,I think this way you have pretty good chance of winning

Even if you research your whole life about it, you will have to accept the fact that you will lose from time to time, if not a lot of times in a row. A player can fail, a 'disaster' can take place for a team, a team can have a bad day and so on. So even sports betting is very risky, I can say it's even as risky as a dice game is. Therefore, whether you're playing sports betting or in a casino, you can still lose as many time at both if you're unlucky.
4140  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: WARNING: Blockchain.info spoof in google sponsored results!! on: September 28, 2016, 07:56:52 PM
Logging into your wallet from a browser is already known as being risky. Except these kinds of scams, there are also other huge risks: keyloggers, hackers and viruses. Also other physical threats like thieves. I'm using a very old laptop (2006) with a Live Linux CD which removes any change that has been made on it when you power it off. This means your data, cache, passwords, absolutely everything is being removed and the next time you boot you'll have a new, clean OS. This makes my laptop way more secure, and I trust logging on Blockchain from it. However, as I said, browsers can be dangerous. Therefore, I prefer using my secondary phone as a Blockchain wallet.
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