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4121  Economy / Gambling discussion / ⚽UEFA Conference League Discussion Thread -- 2023/24 | SFs on: June 21, 2022, 02:01:24 PM

This is the discussion thread for the Europa Conference League, the newly-created third-tier UEFA club competition that started its inaugural in the 2021/22 season.

Champions League thread can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403488
Europa League thread can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403489

Hi guys! New thread now self-moderated. Appreciate also if you use the report function for spam. Kindly keep the discussions to the correct thread!

The 2023/24 season starts on 12 July 2023 with the first qualifying rounds. Official schedule is here: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/


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Reference and Past Season threads:
Previous season thread from 2021/22 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5342840

Season 2022/23 winner: West Ham (FT - Fiorentina 1:2 West Ham)
4122  Economy / Gambling discussion / ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2023/24 | Winner: Atalanta on: June 21, 2022, 02:01:20 PM
This is the discussion thread for the Europa League, the second-tier UEFA club competition held annually.

Champions League thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403488
Europa Conference League thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403490

Hi guys! New thread now self-moderated. Appreciate also if you use the report function for spam. Kindly keep the discussions to the correct thread!

The 2023/24 season starts on 10 August with the qualifying rounds. Official schedule is here:
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/027a-1641dbb4e215-91bce93221b1-1000--2023-24-europa-league/

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Reference and Past Season threads:
Previous season thread from 2019-22 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161551

2022/23 Winner: Sevilla (Penalties 4:1, AET Sevilla 1:1 Roma)
2023/24 Winner: Atalanta (3:0 FT)
4123  Economy / Gambling discussion / ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2023/24 | Prelim Qualifiers on: June 21, 2022, 02:00:30 PM
This is the discussion thread for the Champions League (UCL).

Europa League thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403489
Europa Conference League thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403490

Hi guys! New thread now self-moderated. Appreciate also if you use the report function for spam. Kindly keep the discussions to the correct thread!

The 2023/24 season started on 27 June 2023 with the first preliminary qualifying rounds. Official schedule is here: https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/fixtures-results/#/d/2023-06-27

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Reference and Past Season threads:
Previous season thread from 2019-22 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163249

2022/23 Winner: Manchester City (FT | City 1:0 Inter Milan)
4124  Other / Meta / Re: [INFO]Gambling Board Spams; Concerns, Solutions & Suggestions on: June 21, 2022, 01:16:04 PM
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I agree that threads I opened could probably be turned to self-moderated (you named one but I have others also attracting spam) -- I don't mind moderating, though I might be accused of being too harsh, and could be biased to all the users I already know gamble (but that bias is good right?).
Quick solution; lock and create a self-moderated one? Saves time.

I actually started reporting as a knee-jerk reaction and yeah, I think this could be the quickest solution. I'll consider doing that now for 2 threads I created -- and point them to the new one. There were a trio of 3 threads for UEFA club competitions but since JollyGood already has one for the main Champions League, I guess I'll leave that be unless he has a joint solution.

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Lock the thread; create a self-moderated thread
A new thread should be created at the beginning of every season. Old thread locked.
I'd second about this solution and it's make sense.

Actually, the new threads I created for Champions League (because old one was locked and creator gone) and the subsequent Europe and Conference ones I intended to keep OP updated with results of every season (you can see this already). Posterity is quite nice?

I see nothing wrong with mega threads if they're well manicured or pruned -- WO in Speculation wouldn't be the same if they opened a new one every year. I think a single thread for a single competition makes sense.

As Welsh said I think we all have to simply do better at reporting. I used to, probably not much for gambling sections but will make it a point to do so more often now especially in the threads I created.
4125  Other / Meta / Re: [INFO]Gambling Board Spams; Concerns, Solutions & Suggestions on: June 21, 2022, 12:49:15 PM
Thanks for the note igehhh. I concur:

1. A lot of spam posts not just in discussion but in ANN threads. It's quite clear who posts with any meaningful understanding and who doesn't, I would even say it's quite clear who actually gambles and who doesn't (it's gambling isn't it?)

2. Megathreads don't always get their due though, not all of them are low value (again this is arguable but I actually see a lot of value in the WO thread, for example where there IS an active and knowledgeable community, and that alone warrants for the high frequency of posts otherwise would be considered shitposting. I'm guilty myself every now and then but I trust my campaign manager recognises this haha).

Because many campaigns also discourage mega thread posting if not outlaw them, you get the spammers opening new topics -- you see this a lot in Discussion but also creeping up in the main Gambling thread. Low quality content, no new discussion or angle, etc.

I agree that threads I opened could probably be turned to self-moderated (you named one but I have others also attracting spam) -- I don't mind moderating, though I might be accused of being too harsh, and could be biased to all the users I already know gamble (but that bias is good right?). It was just natural for me to NOT self-moderate to keep the thread censorship free but at this stage, I think the pro (less spam) is preferable to the con (possible censorship).

JollyGood's self moderation's a good example of how one could trim the fat, although I have to say at least one was opened despite existing ones -- should really have kept the existing topics (using the example of Champions League and EPL you used in OP) and moderate that together with others (is that possible?). Was there a reason JollyGood opened those new topics? To self-moderate?
4126  Economy / Gambling / Re: Livecasino.io - 🔥 up to 20% cashback 🔥 up to 20% rakeback 🚨 on: June 21, 2022, 12:23:51 PM
Man you guys, good going. I see so many familiar names I feel like I'm missing out, but honestly don't really have the time to split up my interests into another casino (or maybe I'm just lazy). Think I even took part in one of the early promos here, but then came in too late to claim the prize so it expired ( a freebet on BJ IIRC).

One of these days I'll fire up my account again. Can't just let my deposit idle there, can I?
4127  Economy / Gambling / Re: I miss the old OnChain gambling on: June 21, 2022, 10:52:30 AM
They truly run onchain without the requirement to make an account with the casino? Everything is sent and received to your wallet? That's good, but from a technical perspective, TRON has made trade-offs in the Blockchain Trilemma for more scalability, but the network becomes more centralized.

The Blockchain Trilemma, https://www.ledger.com/academy/what-is-the-blockchain-trilemma

Yeah, I think Tron people missed the point (well not just them, almost any altcoin really) that people wanted on-chain solutions like this because they trusted the network, or rather, it allowed trustless settlement of bets, purely objective, meet all the right conditions and it settles.

That's how Directbet and others mentioned worked, because it used the Bitcoin network.

Don't know just how badly centralised Tron/EOS and all those gambling dapp wannabes were, but I suspect pretty bad. Ethereum's probably the only dapp network I'd trust to gamble on with significant sums.
4128  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Critic Peter Schiff Says There Are No Signs of Bear Market Bottom Now on: June 20, 2022, 07:45:18 PM
Yeah, gold lovers love gold because it's been going up and up in a slower, less pacy trend. We know that. We also know Bitcoin does go up and up, but only spends about 10% of its lifetime in incremental steps up, and 90% meandering and crashing. So it's a long game for both, but perhaps gold doesn't have the heartache and patience required of Bitcoin holders.

But we knew that. We've been taught all of that from history, experienced it ourselves, and are getting schooled all over again.

We knew that... right guys?
4129  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 - Main sponsor of Southampton FC 👋👋 on: June 20, 2022, 03:16:22 PM
Freebets galore, thank you belated congratulations to Steve + co but as said above, no real surprise. Saw that that's really the headline award -- plenty of others won by other brands but that's like Best Film category at the Oscars. How's it feel like to set the pace and have everyone chasing you guys down? Wink

Can't wait to see what's on offer for World Cup (fine, cricket too, then), there's a reason I've been hodling my BTC balance =D
4130  Economy / Reputation / Re: dont trust in arabic people on: June 20, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Only replying because I'm mentioned -- the thread I merited had very little to do with it being a Christmas greeting (which I don't even celebrate neither religiously nor culturally). I generally merit any kind of positive Bitcoin-related effort, in that case, guy was collecting Bitcoin to buy food to distribute to the needy.

That said, I merit posts I think contribute in any kind of cheer, good will, positivity, and constructive feedback. If I think a meme captures the spirit of the post and makes me smile, hell that's a merit.
4131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: June 20, 2022, 12:21:21 PM
Jason Jung

Very, very rare Monday live betting for me, and I looked at that ^ a bit late but suppose I dodged the Simon bullet.

Took Jung 2:0 live, this time following your pick exact and had pretty good odds @1.22 Wink But I just had to add in de Jong and Martener MLs for a little bit over 2/1. Just wanted to see if I could take this and have a little something to play for on Brasil footie later.

4132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BitcoinNews.com's UEFA Champions League Football Preditor Pool Discussion thread on: June 20, 2022, 11:49:00 AM
I'll rummage around myself too and see if we can scrape something, will update if so.

The UEFA Nations League is going on really boringly now. I hope that UEFA decide to reconsider this organization again in the coming years. I think that there is going to be a bigger interest in the Champions League pool this year. I didn't participate in it last year but I'm going to do it this time. It is a sad truth that it is even more difficult to climb the positions in the standings after the group stage.

More games, more money, we're never going back, my friend. And I feel like a lot of people watch games even when quality's shit esp on internationals so I guess there's very little to argue commercially.

That's good to hear from you! So that's CLS63, casperBGD, cryptofrka, me, slaman29 in order of last responses mean at least 5, pretty sure we can convince every past participant to join, if we get at least the La Liga Serie A pool people in, it's good as gold.

4133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Your bitcoin ATL prediction before next halving on: June 20, 2022, 10:46:16 AM
That said, we're going to see a lot more inflation-fighting measures from fiat nations, and the pricing in of further Fed rate hikes means we're getting more low blows for a bit.

$11k is my vote.

$12,000 was mine but yea I find it hard to fathom that we are now talking 12k, 11k, 10k
and possibly lower.

Lucius on page one made the point and its something I pointed out last week we are in times
 now which have not happened in Bitcoins history so the poll is just a guessing game.

We are definitely entering very interesting times.

Yeah, the only thing left standing for history to make was for the previous cycle's high to never be broken as support. Past cycles didn't even really come close to past ATHs but this one decidedly went in only the second or third test.

Very interesting times indeed -- even more so with those actually building on/with or securing the network -- especially staring down a long dark barrel of unknowns.
4134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2022 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: June 20, 2022, 07:23:48 AM
Nice going yellow capper Wink Hamilton well deserved, must be nice personally for him to see all that skill finally rewarded.

Did NOT see other RB driver getting a DNF, did NOT see the other Ferrari getting on the podium, Tsunoda putting himself out, and Haas disappointing (should have seen that though, right?).

Not a big fan of Verstappen, but he's making the most out of other drivers/teams falling short.
4135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: June 19, 2022, 07:22:15 PM
Hey man, piece of advice, if you are taking tips from somebody take them as they are Smiley I am usually putting a lot of thought in my picks when choosing game handicaps and set handicaps. Then I am mixing them cause of turf difference and player serves. Medvedev played as bad as usual on grass this season and it is just a question of his opponent being good enough to use all those gifts.

Berrettini also continued with his good performances and I am considering him as top favorite for Wimbledon this year.

Indeed, the reason I have been taking your tips in tennis on ocassion is your proven rate of hits -- the way I deviate is something of a bad habit. Need to find a way to include them instead of my own picks when doing the famous 5-leg acca from SB. Well done on the straight set win too! Didn't watch it after the first 5 minutes or so, but well worth the bet, and 5/1 is a sweet spot to hit in any case. Let's see if I remember for a final/last 4 outright for Berrettini!
4136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid! on: June 19, 2022, 06:49:31 PM
@Daniel91 Fine, I predict the opposite. Shall we bet $10 on this? Winning team has a Croat, I pay you $10. If not, you pay me $10. In Bitcoin of course. And we can get hahay to arbitrate or ensure we cough up the payment (or to remind us one day), being the most recent checker of the stats haha.

Anyone want to weigh in on Tuesday night's qualifications? Got to be more interesting than most other things on offer.
4137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: June 19, 2022, 05:09:41 PM
Horrible night for predictions, for the most part anyway. However, we've been proper spoiled the last two weeks. I'm not sure what the record is of finishes per card, but surely this one has to be up there? In between the quick knockouts we had some competitive fights. Pretty much exactly what you want when you tune in. I don't there was a bad fight in there. Some pretty dominant performance, but at the same time still being rather entertaining.

I did end up betting, but lost on the first fight with that bloody knee.

Yeah, I think I saw leea mention in one of the other UFC prediction threads it's a record KO for a single card. Did see at least one match got cancelled too, so could have been even higher. Definitely a treat -- unless you're the kind who likes fights that go the distance and/or submission, nothing beats a KO for me though Wink

Didn't bet, but I actually predicted most of the clear favourites, so doubt I even came close to being in the sniff for a prize.
4138  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Bitcoin Disappointed You ? on: June 19, 2022, 03:57:09 PM
Who would have thought? Well, I certainly did. I know I couldn't be the only one. Remember, 85%-90% pullback from ATHs is completely possible, completely normal, completely expected.

But that's always some massive scare event to result in that.

At 69k, we only needed just above $10k Bitcoin ATL for that to remain true... and the thing I mentioned several times about price never falling past a previous cycle's ATH -- now it's happened, more people will lose faith, so if the 85% pullback becomes organic, we could see even further battering if we get to that 10-11k range AND we get a scare event.
4139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Your bitcoin ATL prediction before next halving on: June 19, 2022, 03:32:39 PM
Hard to see us breaking past the 2020 low -- that itself was a Black Swan event and we were just seeing $8000 a week before that time, so we'd need to get both those again: trading below $10k AND another massive unexpected shock event. We couldn't possibly be so unlucky, could we?

That said, we're going to see a lot more inflation-fighting measures from fiat nations, and the pricing in of further Fed rate hikes means we're getting more low blows for a bit.

$11k is my vote.
4140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BitcoinNews.com's UEFA Champions League Football Preditor Pool Discussion thread on: June 19, 2022, 02:20:35 PM
do not follow daily, but did not saw a drop below $10k for BTC?  Grin Grin
nevermind, there was little interest in CL previous season, not sure why, but I don't think that it is going to change this season

maybe it is due to competition that is group based, and then there is not much games, and basically after group stage, you cannot change much, so not that interesting as EPL, or La Liga and Calcio (those having few participants as well)

Was a terrible attempt at a joke, I'm doing my best to be cheerful, and in 2018/19, I always 'pretended' BTC was below 5k, and then of course my heart sank for a time in March 2020 when it actually fell through $4k heh.

So now my psychological mind's putting BTC at $10k. You know, false comfort.

I suppose UCL is different format but funny thing is we actually had 15 participants for Nations League, which is also group stage, and a lot more boring (sorry UEFA).

I'll rummage around myself too and see if we can scrape something, will update if so.
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