Everything I've seen here suggest that the "New Rbox" is roughly the equivalent of 3 "Old Rbox" devices that have been repackaged into a single box and such. the 10A 12V current draw, the 110GH/s speed, and chip count all seem to fit in line with that analysis. While the current cost in $$/GH is better than last June, the Watts/GH are pretty much the same. This is essentially a re-packaging, without any technology change over the "Late May Rbox".
Is this pretty much correct?
' it ' is somewhat correct. It is the same chip in a better design that extracts more hash at a higher freq. These will safely clock to freq 350 the old round gear does not. These run with 2 fans and will do 128-130 gh. you need 1 usb cord 1 pcie cord 3 rounds maxed at 111gh. you need 3 usb cords and 1 pcie cord with a 3 dc plug adapter. You really can't hit the fan blades with this one. You really could hit the fan blades with the old one. the biggest 'same' is power usage these are just a shade better. 1.05 watt per gh vs 1.1 watt per gh That means: don't buy these unless you have a power workaround… These are great if you are using a spot electric heater . or you want to learn about mining. |
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As hinted previously I will be ending this promotion to everyone who is not a Staff member rank on bitcointalk. Next payment will be final at least from a promotion ran from myself directly. I am considering having a third party run a signature campaign on my behalf with fixed monthly rates and the ability to use a referral link, this isn't confirmed yet though. Any staff who continue to participate in this campaign can PM me for payments each month. If you are unable to find a new campaign feel free to add your Primedice referral link to your signature after submitting your payment request tomorrow. I will update you all in a few days on a potential new campaign as noted earlier in this post. Thanks to everyone who helped make this the most popular signature campaign of all time. Over the past year around 400-500 coins have been paid out to countless thousands of users who collectively made hundreds and hundreds of thousands of posts which in effect has helped primedice reach 1 billion + bets  . want to thank you. as a hero member . I have over 5000 posts. even though i won't be paid past sept 17 or for more then 400 posts. I am leaving your signature up until sept 27th to thank you for a good campaign |
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Been reading about burstcoin and hdd mining are there more choices then burst coin?
I can do 20- 30 tb with no worries . Thanks in Advance.
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Also as winter comes to the north, southern hemisphere like Venezuela with cheap power goes to summer - so minimal season effect.
Now this is a big point. the entire network is 236ph give or take a few ph https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyBitcoin Difficulty: 29,829,733,124 Estimated Next Difficulty: 33,192,651,006 (+11.27%) Adjust time: After 1574 Blocks, About 10.1 days Hashrate(?): 236,199,455 GH/snow what does that number mean? simple at 1 watt per gh the entire network is burning 236,200 kwatts or 236 mega watts. that is not that much power look at this puppy http://www.power-technology.com/projects/gurihydroelectric/10,200 mega watts or more power then 43 current btc networks. what do they charge for power? the official rate is 3.1 cents http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_pricingso they could run the entire btc network at 3 cents a kwatt. There are more then 14 countries on the wiki list with power under 5 cents. so at 3.1 cents per kwatt an s-1 under volted and down clocked is cheaper to run then a 10 cent per kwatt sp30 . Since the sp30 does around .6 watts a gh and the downclocked under volted s-1 does 1.3 watts a gh. I could argue a large builder of chips/machines could have 2 plants 1 north hemi 1 south hemi as long as he can get 3 cent power. he can keep one turned off when it is hot. |
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you have a lot to learn
there are many kinds of coins.
scrypt
sha256
scrypt-A-nf
are but 3 kinds
they use different speed measurments
gpus are too slow for Sha256-------------Bitcoin is best>>>>> asics are used here the bitmaintech antminer s-3 is about 450 gh decent machine this is about 900 of your gpu cards
gpus are too slow for scrypt---------------Litecoin is best but sunject to change machines with asic chips are best to use . a 5mh machine is a good starter that is about 10 of your cards
gpus are still used for scrypt-a-nf --------Darkcoin is best here but subject to change if you want to mine with your card look into darkcoins
it is a waste of money to use that card to mine scrypt or sha256 . If you want scrypt or sha256 pm me I have links for machine to buy and have a few myself.
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Sorry to be the bearer of such depressing news but...
The large private datacenters/ASIC manufacturers are so far beyond home miners in every conceivable way. The difficulty will continue to rise long after mining at home is completely unprofitable.
And if/when difficulty starts to decline, it will never again be profitable for home miners to join back in the game because the massive datacenters will ride a thin line of profitability that will exclude everyone else but the most efficient operations.
I have a feeling this is coming pretty quickly. IT is almost impossible for any home miners to make an ROI atm and i doubt it will be possible at all by the end of the year unless bitcoin price spikes to at least 800. That is fiat ROI which basically has no connection with mining whatsoever. Anybody wanting fiat ROI is always better off buying and just waiting for a BTC price increase. BTC ROI was possible earlier this year and now seems impossible from any vendor at current prices. It would be possible if the manufacturers dropped their prices significantly but they have no reason to do so. Well buy and hold for fiat roi does not always beat mining. but If you told me which one I am leaning towards at the moment buy and hold over buy a miner. |
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Hi soy, thanks. what has me most concerned is the noise. the fans spin at 3000 ! it's ridiculously loud, and i am running it stock at 218.75. Bitmain tried to tell me this is normal. Unreal. my s3 used to have the fan run at 1800-2100 at stock. i have a jet in my living room now. unreal.
I am going to test these in my s-3 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1they should fit and be quiet |
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My heating (natural gas) bill for 2013 winter was reduced about 2/3 overall with last winter mining, while I don't have exact KW stats on hand, I'd estimate last winter I consumed about 4 to 5 KW running 24x7. This winter I will consume ~6.5KW/hr which comes out to ~22K BTU's/hr. Still not enough to heat my home, but I guarantee it makes a good dent in my gas bill this winter as it's a 24x7 source of heat. Currently this week it's been in the lower 40's to lower 60's, a few windows open, and home is comfortable in the lower 70's. Will have to close all the windows once it starts to stay in the 30s-40's. Michigan winter gas bill: 2012 mild winter ~$3,500 (No Miners) 2013 Horrible Winter ~$1,500 (miners) 2014 Winter TBD TBD  (miners) yeah I am in NJ and my winters are never as bad as yours but last year's winter was a bad one. The miners liked it and I had a very warm home last year. |
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philipma1957 if everything runs the same with the new r-box as it does with the older smaller r-box, you shouldn't have any trouble running 6 or more. i have the raspberry pi model B+ and 5 of the older r-box ( 32- 37) and i have all 5 plugged into the blackarrow break out board (which supposedly can handle up to 10 of the older r-boxes but it actually looks like it can handle more )and running off a 7 port powered usb hub. the hub is only plugged into one of the USB ports on the raspberry pi. still have 3 left to plug more stuff in. I do not know how the new r-boxes plug into the breakout boards. but i'm assuming you can run at least 6 , maybe 8 off one board depending on the board you have. and plug them all into a powered USB hub. and then plug that hub into the raspberry pi. depending on the model of Raspberry pi you have, you'll either have 2 usb ports on it or 4. so you should be able to repeat the above hardware config as many times as you have usb ports on your raspberry pi. So based on the numbers and enough power and breakout boards to handle them all. you shouldn't have any issues running 12 - 32 ( depending on Pi model)of them off a raspberry pi if it can handle that many USB devices running at once. i don't know what the max is the Pi will recognize. i haven't seen a good description of how to run the raspberry pi off a breakout board yet. so i keep it under its own power using an ac adapter. same with the powered hub. next month i plan to order 2 of the new R-boxes off you crazy guy. from everything i've seen, you have the best prices around.  thanks for info but I ordered the one bringing me to 3 r-boxes. it will be enough for now. |
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He probably meant ghash went down so he joined mmpool as an alternative.
Yes and your suggestion to join mmpool has made my life really interesting. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=777194.msg8760138#msg8760138 I found a problem with zencloud-gawminers due to using and testing mmpool with westhash purchased hashing along with using the asicminer tubes. I do not know whether to like you or be mad at you. Well the flaw I tested for in mmpool does not exist but there was a huge flaw in part of zencloud-gawminers product line. They had to end/transfer all of the nicehash section of their business. That was an interesting post- got me to try pointing my tubes to mmpool (where they've been miraculously stable compared to the other pools I'd tried them on) and that zencloud bug made for quite interesting reading as well. yeah and they hit a block about 4 days ago. So I have done 100% roi on these (between the block payout and the finders fee from zew-gaw) |
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I'm running a raspberry Pi model B+ with my 5 smaller R-boxes ( 32 - 37 gh/s ) and the Minepeon Software. Has anyone tried running the new R-box with the old R-box ?
with my current set up i can add 2 of these new ones. So was curious if they'll work together.
I haven't tried it yet, but I don't foresee any issues, as long as you run all units at a max of 290 clock freq. ahh ok. yeah i have never overclocked them. So i might be better off just selling them as time goes on and replace them all with just the new ones. I dont like overclocking that stuff. then i'll have to use more power, and it shortens thier life expectancy. the new r-boxes (2 of them) using top of the line seasonic platinum psu are doing about 258gh and 269 watts at freq 350. just over 1 watt a gh I am going to down clock and test power at freq 320 . A question to crazyguy I am going to order 2 or 3 more today from your ebay advert > I have a 10% ebay coupon. I think I can get them with a total discount of 13%. This makes them a little better price on ebay for me then from your store the question is will 5 run on your Rpi software that you sent to me? Or should I stick with 4 I haven't tested it yet, my 6 unit test was on a windows machine but I was using a smaller power supply when I tested 4 on the Pi. Rockminer has instructed me to give out a free RPi with every order of 8 units, so I'm assuming the Rpi can support at least 8. If not, we can work out something on another pi. okay here is the deal I have a 10% coupon for an ebay purchase I stack 5% more on that so anything I buy from you on ebay today I get about 15% off. does not cost you the dime is on ebay. I purchased 1 r-box from your ebay listing this will give me a 3 pack total should be no problem to run 3 on the rasp pi. look forward to using it. thanks edit ignore all below you have 2 ebay listings
the bigger amv1 620gh machine
or the smaller r-box units
I don't want to lost the coupon so I am buying something.
if I get the btcgarden amv1 does it mesh with thr r-box and the rasp pi you sold to me. I am thinking I rather that item. |
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we are still a long way off before the system starts self sustaining itself with negative difficulty drops. with the data centers coming online theres no way theyll start unplugging because the price has dipped a bit.
The mine a few th of hash using 2-6 kwatts in my shed/garage/basement guy is not longer much of a factor. Chips and units using .5 or .6 watts are not that important. If a company can build a 1ph data center for under 500btc and get cheap power at 3 cents a watt it is a sure money maker. I think asicminer, bitfury and bitmaintech can all do this. So look at a btc calc read out. they can make insane money if they limit the growth of their dc's and sales to us to 10%. they only need to maintain the prices about 460 usd a coin. I think the next 4-6 months time they will look to do this. Little guys like us will need to find cheap power more then any other factor second factor $ per gh  |
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I'm running a raspberry Pi model B+ with my 5 smaller R-boxes ( 32 - 37 gh/s ) and the Minepeon Software. Has anyone tried running the new R-box with the old R-box ?
with my current set up i can add 2 of these new ones. So was curious if they'll work together.
I haven't tried it yet, but I don't foresee any issues, as long as you run all units at a max of 290 clock freq. ahh ok. yeah i have never overclocked them. So i might be better off just selling them as time goes on and replace them all with just the new ones. I dont like overclocking that stuff. then i'll have to use more power, and it shortens thier life expectancy. the new r-boxes (2 of them) using top of the line seasonic platinum psu are doing about 258gh and 269 watts at freq 350. just over 1 watt a gh I am going to down clock and test power at freq 320 . A question to crazyguy I am going to order 2 or 3 more today from your ebay advert > I have a 10% ebay coupon. I think I can get them with a total discount of 13%. This makes them a little better price on ebay for me then from your store the question is will 5 run on your Rpi software that you sent to me? Or should I stick with 4 |
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bitcoinwisdom is always best !
i used to use it too, very good calculator and many options too. Probably it's the best at the moment but there are some new great websites popping out every month. yes there are at least 7 decent sites that I know of. |
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104F degrees out here in LA today. I really envy you guys getting a bit of cool weather. I can't even go out for a walk with kids let alone think about miners  it is 11:30 am and 64 f. my miners in the garage are doing 5% better hash due to the cooler air. I use nat gas to heat my NJ home. I will lower my heating bills about 100 usd a month using my miners. My mining will be about 2500 watts this winter. this is 60 kwatts a day cost is 60 x .15 or 9 dollars x 30 days = 270 power bill for the miners round it to 300 a month take away the 100 in the winter and my mining power is 200 a month. So my 15 cents a kwatt is really 10 cents a kwatt for the winter. Not too shabby. |
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No brainer...buy, mine for a bit then resell. your mined btc + resale value should = more than your investment.
No, it should be, buy, put the antminer up for sale while using it to mine.. I like that idea! Picked them both up! Thanks guys! yeah list them on ebay a 10 day auction. |
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bitcoinwisdom is always best !
bitcoinwisdom has huge amounts of info. charts even ltc info. Their prediction model factors in past preformance and current preformance. Since asics made diff grow like mad from July of 2013 up to June of 2014 their current model always is a bit high each beginning of diff jump. Bitcoincharts model is all now no past data. Blending the two has really worked well the last 3-4 months. As always long term 6 month predictions are very hard to figure. I spent a lot of time with some simple models and ideas of what was to come in the future and since July of this year I am in the camp of the next 200 will see us under 10% maybe 7-9% . It may end up to be completely wrong but I am sticking with it for now. from june 29 to sept 13th we jumped 77.36% that has been about 9.97% average. So we are just under 10 % for the last 77days |
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these r-boxes are pretty nice. they certainly are quiet. I did a power test for my 2.
I used a seasonic 760 watt play psu. it only runs the 2 r-boxes it uses 269 watts and I am getting about 258 gh on high freq 350
so that is about 1.042 watts a gh I will test it at freq 320 today.
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impeccable seller, just bought any iphone 5s and couldnt be happy with the service provided, trust this seller This doesn't help boost his credibility; it actually hurts it. maybe that is why someone did it. Why would someone trust a guy because someone joined today to say he is good? |
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Hi Phillip, it may be funny but it is also true!
The new rboxes is what I am thinking, as you suggested. Perhaps 4 of them.
you will like them they are sealed, quiet and 4 will use about 550-575 watts.. see if crazy guy will pre-program a rasp pi for you. I am happy to use it. |
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