cloudminerDW
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
|
|
September 16, 2014, 12:16:05 AM |
|
philipma1957 if everything runs the same with the new r-box as it does with the older smaller r-box, you shouldn't have any trouble running 6 or more. i have the raspberry pi model B+ and 5 of the older r-box ( 32- 37) and i have all 5 plugged into the blackarrow break out board (which supposedly can handle up to 10 of the older r-boxes but it actually looks like it can handle more )and running off a 7 port powered usb hub. the hub is only plugged into one of the USB ports on the raspberry pi. still have 3 left to plug more stuff in. I do not know how the new r-boxes plug into the breakout boards. but i'm assuming you can run at least 6 , maybe 8 off one board depending on the board you have. and plug them all into a powered USB hub. and then plug that hub into the raspberry pi. depending on the model of Raspberry pi you have, you'll either have 2 usb ports on it or 4. so you should be able to repeat the above hardware config as many times as you have usb ports on your raspberry pi. So based on the numbers and enough power and breakout boards to handle them all. you shouldn't have any issues running 12 - 32 ( depending on Pi model)of them off a raspberry pi if it can handle that many USB devices running at once. i don't know what the max is the Pi will recognize. i haven't seen a good description of how to run the raspberry pi off a breakout board yet. so i keep it under its own power using an ac adapter. same with the powered hub. next month i plan to order 2 of the new R-boxes off you crazy guy. from everything i've seen, you have the best prices around.
|
|
|
|
hurricandave
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
|
|
September 16, 2014, 01:02:31 AM |
|
I believe the Pi will see each chip on the miner as a device. Each common USB hub will have either one or two chips of its own. Most USB Hubs utilize 1 IC for 4-5 ports/channels and a second IC if it has 6-10 ports/channels. I believe the New R-Box 100 GH/s has 11 or 12 chips. If you ask cgminer to list all devices it will break down the R-Box into RMU 0,RMU 0a-RMU 0j, for a single miner box. The Pi's have a difficult time when handling maximum numbers of USB devices. Hence the reason Rockminer says to provide an additional Pi for every 8 R-Box miners.
|
|
|
|
philipma1957
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4298
Merit: 8768
'The right to privacy matters'
|
|
September 16, 2014, 01:08:52 AM |
|
philipma1957 if everything runs the same with the new r-box as it does with the older smaller r-box, you shouldn't have any trouble running 6 or more. i have the raspberry pi model B+ and 5 of the older r-box ( 32- 37) and i have all 5 plugged into the blackarrow break out board (which supposedly can handle up to 10 of the older r-boxes but it actually looks like it can handle more )and running off a 7 port powered usb hub. the hub is only plugged into one of the USB ports on the raspberry pi. still have 3 left to plug more stuff in. I do not know how the new r-boxes plug into the breakout boards. but i'm assuming you can run at least 6 , maybe 8 off one board depending on the board you have. and plug them all into a powered USB hub. and then plug that hub into the raspberry pi. depending on the model of Raspberry pi you have, you'll either have 2 usb ports on it or 4. so you should be able to repeat the above hardware config as many times as you have usb ports on your raspberry pi. So based on the numbers and enough power and breakout boards to handle them all. you shouldn't have any issues running 12 - 32 ( depending on Pi model)of them off a raspberry pi if it can handle that many USB devices running at once. i don't know what the max is the Pi will recognize. i haven't seen a good description of how to run the raspberry pi off a breakout board yet. so i keep it under its own power using an ac adapter. same with the powered hub. next month i plan to order 2 of the new R-boxes off you crazy guy. from everything i've seen, you have the best prices around. thanks for info but I ordered the one bringing me to 3 r-boxes. it will be enough for now.
|
|
|
|
CrazyGuy (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1973
Merit: 1007
|
|
September 16, 2014, 01:47:19 AM |
|
... i haven't seen a good description of how to run the raspberry pi off a breakout board yet. so i keep it under its own power using an ac adapter. same with the powered hub. ...
If you are using Rockminer's breakout board, it comes with a connector made specifically for powering the RPi off of their breakout board. If you are using the Black Arrow breakout board, it has 2 5v outs. What I've done with my controller is strip one side of a usb mini cable, and screw the red wire into the positive terminal and black wire into the negative on the BA board.
|
ASICPuppy.net ASIC Mining Hardware and Accessories - Compac F in stock!
|
|
|
achtung082
|
|
September 16, 2014, 02:20:08 AM Last edit: September 16, 2014, 02:30:47 AM by achtung082 |
|
You can also solder the power feed directly to the back of the Pi if you want and save your usb cables. Also works great directly from the 5v off an ATX PSU. http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=57735
|
Support sidehack projects: 1BURGERAXHH6Yi6LRybRJK7ybEm5m5HwTr My Sales Wallet BTC:bc1qxtxsc86lessnrsm52gf7qgmqle75htdr03zdd7 - LTC:LNLKyKkGNCJakZudGjc2qg26yYz7oeo92k - ETH:0xDf1b17872D9Ff22F04270BbDA13556B3E1649E27
|
|
|
cloudminerDW
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
|
|
September 16, 2014, 10:11:33 PM |
|
... i haven't seen a good description of how to run the raspberry pi off a breakout board yet. so i keep it under its own power using an ac adapter. same with the powered hub. ...
If you are using Rockminer's breakout board, it comes with a connector made specifically for powering the RPi off of their breakout board. If you are using the Black Arrow breakout board, it has 2 5v outs. What I've done with my controller is strip one side of a usb mini cable, and screw the red wire into the positive terminal and black wire into the negative on the BA board. i had a feeling it was something like that. i was just afraid to try it hehe. thanks for the info
|
|
|
|
alh
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1847
Merit: 1052
|
|
September 16, 2014, 10:20:59 PM |
|
Everything I've seen here suggest that the "New Rbox" is roughly the equivalent of 3 "Old Rbox" devices that have been repackaged into a single box and such. the 10A 12V current draw, the 110GH/s speed, and chip count all seem to fit in line with that analysis. While the current cost in $$/GH is better than last June, the Watts/GH are pretty much the same. This is essentially a re-packaging, without any technology change over the "Late May Rbox".
Is this pretty much correct?
|
|
|
|
cloudminerDW
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
|
|
September 16, 2014, 11:13:10 PM |
|
Everything I've seen here suggest that the "New Rbox" is roughly the equivalent of 3 "Old Rbox" devices that have been repackaged into a single box and such. the 10A 12V current draw, the 110GH/s speed, and chip count all seem to fit in line with that analysis. While the current cost in $$/GH is better than last June, the Watts/GH are pretty much the same. This is essentially a re-packaging, without any technology change over the "Late May Rbox".
Is this pretty much correct?
it's also much cheaper. 1 of these costs around the same as 2 of the smaller r-boxes but is essentially 3+ . 3 small ones not overclocked give me a speed of 97.5 gh/s and costs $180+ if you can even find them for that price. 1 of these gives you 100 gh/s minimum and costs 109.99 from asicpuppy. Originally i was planning to buy 10 of the smaller r-box's to connect to my 500 watt PS. but that would eventually add up to a cost of atleast $600 not to mention the heat 10 of those things will give off. for $440 i can get 4 of these and end up with 400 gh/s instead of 325 gh/s and an extra $160 in my pocket
|
|
|
|
philipma1957
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4298
Merit: 8768
'The right to privacy matters'
|
|
September 17, 2014, 02:53:08 AM |
|
Everything I've seen here suggest that the "New Rbox" is roughly the equivalent of 3 "Old Rbox" devices that have been repackaged into a single box and such. the 10A 12V current draw, the 110GH/s speed, and chip count all seem to fit in line with that analysis. While the current cost in $$/GH is better than last June, the Watts/GH are pretty much the same. This is essentially a re-packaging, without any technology change over the "Late May Rbox".
Is this pretty much correct?
' it ' is somewhat correct. It is the same chip in a better design that extracts more hash at a higher freq. These will safely clock to freq 350 the old round gear does not. These run with 2 fans and will do 128-130 gh. you need 1 usb cord 1 pcie cord 3 rounds maxed at 111gh. you need 3 usb cords and 1 pcie cord with a 3 dc plug adapter. You really can't hit the fan blades with this one. You really could hit the fan blades with the old one. the biggest 'same' is power usage these are just a shade better. 1.05 watt per gh vs 1.1 watt per gh That means: don't buy these unless you have a power workaround… These are great if you are using a spot electric heater . or you want to learn about mining.
|
|
|
|
CrazyGuy (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1973
Merit: 1007
|
|
September 17, 2014, 04:17:44 AM |
|
Price drop on BTCGarden X2 units. $299.99
|
ASICPuppy.net ASIC Mining Hardware and Accessories - Compac F in stock!
|
|
|
philipma1957
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4298
Merit: 8768
'The right to privacy matters'
|
|
September 17, 2014, 06:56:27 PM |
|
Price drop on BTCGarden X2 units. $299.99
good price for 600gh what are they to ship to 07731? and do they come with a rasp pi or do they run with the r-box rasp pi?
|
|
|
|
CrazyGuy (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1973
Merit: 1007
|
|
September 17, 2014, 07:28:54 PM |
|
Price drop on BTCGarden X2 units. $299.99
good price for 600gh what are they to ship to 07731? and do they come with a rasp pi or do they run with the r-box rasp pi? You'll have to estimate shipping through the website. 1 RPi can control 2 X2 units, or 8 boards. Rockminer and BTCGarden both use customized versions of cgminer 4.3.3, but the source code for BTCGarden is not available. You could place a rockminer cgminer build on a BTCGarden image, but you'll need need to run 2 instances of cgminer to control your rockminer and BTCGarden devices. I'm not sure how stable that would be but it's worth a shot.
|
ASICPuppy.net ASIC Mining Hardware and Accessories - Compac F in stock!
|
|
|
hurricandave
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
|
|
September 17, 2014, 07:48:43 PM |
|
Rockxie says they are going to update to the latest cgminer release.
|
|
|
|
CrazyGuy (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1973
Merit: 1007
|
|
September 18, 2014, 02:01:30 AM |
|
Rockxie says they are going to update to the latest cgminer release.
That is good news. There were some major changes to the icarus drivers in 4.3.4, which would explain why it has taken so long to get integrated into the latest build.
|
ASICPuppy.net ASIC Mining Hardware and Accessories - Compac F in stock!
|
|
|
hurricandave
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
|
|
September 18, 2014, 07:24:53 AM |
|
Rockxie says they are going to update to the latest cgminer release.
That is good news. There were some major changes to the icarus drivers in 4.3.4, which would explain why it has taken so long to get integrated into the latest build. I Hope they do it soon, I am about to order a couple more Rockminers and would feel a bit more confident about the purchase if I could see that Rockminer was trying to at the very least stay current with the available Mining Software.
|
|
|
|
hurricandave
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
|
|
September 18, 2014, 07:51:24 AM |
|
Rockxie says they are going to update to the latest cgminer release.
That is good news. There were some major changes to the icarus drivers in 4.3.4, which would explain why it has taken so long to get integrated into the latest build. I Hope they do it soon, I am about to order a couple more Rockminers and would feel a bit more confident about the purchase if I could see that Rockminer was trying to at the very least stay current with the available Mining Software. Just ordered 4 R-Boxes more. I hope they do a little bit better than the 82GH/S than the first one. Please use your connection to put reasonable pressure on Rockminer to keep the cgminer up to date..........PLEASE!!!!!!!! because I am just a little fry!!!
|
|
|
|
Chris_Sabian
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 896
Merit: 1001
|
|
September 18, 2014, 03:46:07 PM |
|
Rockxie says they are going to update to the latest cgminer release.
That is good news. There were some major changes to the icarus drivers in 4.3.4, which would explain why it has taken so long to get integrated into the latest build. I Hope they do it soon, I am about to order a couple more Rockminers and would feel a bit more confident about the purchase if I could see that Rockminer was trying to at the very least stay current with the available Mining Software. Just ordered 4 R-Boxes more. I hope they do a little bit better than the 82GH/S than the first one. Please use your connection to put reasonable pressure on Rockminer to keep the cgminer up to date..........PLEASE!!!!!!!! because I am just a little fry!!! Newest CGMiner update was just posted by Rockxie. See the link and thread below:
|
|
|
|
philipma1957
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4298
Merit: 8768
'The right to privacy matters'
|
|
September 18, 2014, 05:03:18 PM |
|
okay the r-box I ordered on ebay with my ebay discount came. now running 3 of these. all on freq 350
using rasp pi programmed by crazy guy. I get about 387gh at 420 watts using a seasonic 760 watt plat psu.
they are nice units quiet. if you have the right circumstances these are good gear to use.
|
|
|
|
hurricandave
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
|
|
September 18, 2014, 05:34:36 PM |
|
The new link still uses cgminer version 4.3.3 I guess Rockxie didn't update that part just the batch file, it now has freq. set to 320Mhz.
|
|
|
|
CrazyGuy (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1973
Merit: 1007
|
|
September 23, 2014, 05:03:09 PM |
|
BTCGarden AMV1X2 units are now out of stock.
New prices for in stock miners and accessories:
New RBOX - $99.99 Assembled ASICMiner Tube - $379.99 ANTMiner PSU Switch - $1.99
|
ASICPuppy.net ASIC Mining Hardware and Accessories - Compac F in stock!
|
|
|
|