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4141  Economy / Economics / Re: STOP SELLING NOW!! URGENT CALL TO BITSTAMPERS AROUND THE WORLD on: October 04, 2014, 04:35:22 AM
To buyers

You have to protest, protest against this market, set your buy orders high, high into the sky, up at 2,000 and above, refuse to buy any lower, show the market that bitcoin has more value than this and that you are ready to pay great sums, take one for the community. This attitude of cannibalizing on others fears and feeding on others angsts hinders bitcoin's growth.

Why on Earth would anyone pay more for something than they have to? If people are panic selling at what someone believes to be low prices, why would anyone who thinks btc is worth more than the current market price not buy at the low price? You're just talking crazy, man!

I also think you fail to take into account that btc is a lot less run by individuals now and Wall Street has a lot more influence here. When bitcoin exploded last year, it got a lot of attention from hedge funds who were looking for an easy bubble to ride. There has been a lot of institutional investment in bitcoin assets in the past 12 months, both the currency and the businesses built around bitcoin. These macro changes in price have a lot more to do with things that none of us have any control over than people who post things like "don't sell at these prices" would dare to guess.

I'm sure we'd all love a higher price. I'd prefer a stable lower price over a wildly fluctuating price myself. But it's really not a thing we can control. If you think bitcoin is undervalued, don't tell people to stop selling. Start buying.
4142  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 100 BTC was stolen from my Primedice account. Please see thread. on: October 04, 2014, 04:28:00 AM
there are a lot of known exploits on blockchain therefor I always make new addresses and have pretty strict measures on my accounts as I myself have been a victim of blockchains exploits (15BTC).

I'm unfamiliar with how blockchain is exploitable. I was under the impression it was safe. Can you elaborate at all on what I need to be wary of?
4143  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: October 04, 2014, 03:22:10 AM
Also, i got a PM yesterday, i dont know if that has anything to do with it?   -->   http://prntscr.com/4st3mx

That reads to me like a guy who just wants his withdrawal processed and says he is willing to help you salvage something of your trashed reputation if you pay him out.


doog, that was a fake Joe (if that screenshot is correct - can't be sure about anything now). Note the lowercase "L" in the name. Not even sure why DB brought it up, nothing to do with any of this shit that's going on.

"Why post an obvious fake PM?" is like asking "why post an obviously fake txid payout?"

Your logic does no good here!
4144  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Video Footage Of Cop Executing Dillon Taylor Released on: October 04, 2014, 12:29:51 AM
Actually anyone with half a brain would know not to start taking off when a cop pulls up directly in front of them. Anyone with an iq above 50 would know you dont stick ypur hands down ypur pants and pull them out quickly when a cop has a gun aimed at ypur chest 5 feet away. I guess you dont fall into either of those categories.

If he didnt take his hands out he could have lived through that. Just a good lesson why you dont screw around with a cop. Honestly im not trying to defend the cop, but you throwing around the term "murder" shows how ignorant you really are.

Murder is the unjustified taking of a life, which sounds much closer to the circumstances of this case than not. Victim-blaming here is a frequent tactic for someone defending police brutality. 'Anyone with a brain knows not to disobey a cop when he gives you an unjustified order because of racial prejudices.' That's unreasonable. As a free citizen in a free country, you have a right not to be murdered by police. Or subjected to unreasonable searches or orders. Police are granted the power to use force when it is warranted with the expectation they are qualified enough to know when it is warranted. This cop did not. Being a police officer involves known self-sacrifice, in that you are agreeing to put yourself in potentially dangerous situations. That is not an excuse or a justification to be trigger-happy. You still have a duty not to be, and you are still answerable to the public for your actions when you are. If you can't handle that responsibility, DON'T BE A COP.
4145  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: October 04, 2014, 12:15:26 AM
Can you even keep track of your lies right now? You didn't send to the payout address he had in the field (he posted a screen shot of his payout address from his account BEFORE you processed the payout) and you didn't send to the address he had listed there.

Here's a reminder of what actually happened:

October 1, 08:19 am: Joe posts a screen shot of his pending withdrawal on DB, address listed is 1PoPTWF.....

October 1, 10:50 am: you post a txid paying out to 19Pookp.....

Your response is not consistent with the truth.




Links to sources:




Regarding the apparent max profit mismatch we have changed the max profit percentage to 1% in the database but we forgot to change it on the UI. This is why there are bets with higher profit than the displayed max. This can only happen though if one is using a bot to submit bets because the UI prevents the submission of such bets. After latest big win though, we are decreasing the max bet to 0.2% of BR. We cant take that variance anymore.

Payment is sent. https://blockchain.info/tx/42e448116787a3a9c38eedfb76f73d42f95d85de281cee5abd9b055d647dce6f

Enjoy your profits.

As for people who keep screaming scam scam scam, why you bother playing at us then? There are so many other dice sites,and respectable like dice.ninja, feel free and go play there. Depositing and playing on a "scammy" site, makes no sense to me. Im tired of arguments. I beg you, dont play here!

Regards
4146  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: October 04, 2014, 12:02:40 AM
Payout was carried as always. We never missed a single payout, and payout was on the address he provided. What i dont get is why AK would want to play at DB anyways when all those days he would just trash-talk DB with every chance, on every other site. Why the fuck to "steal" his payout, when we could"steal" the bankroll, based on your theory? Dotn even bother to answer, i really dont care at this point. Some others even connected the address to a recent exploit found on a PrimeDice deposit, where 100 BTCs also dissapeared. I have no clue. Thats the address that it was in the withdrawal field, and thats the one we executed(it didnt went automatically just because hot wallet didnt have that much as he requested, the second we refilled it it went through). Also, i got a PM yesterday, i dont know if that has anything to do with it?   -->   http://prntscr.com/4st3mx

As for people who simply do deposits of 0.0001 and put usernames as SCAMSCAMSCAM etc etc, im sorry, I renamed you once, twice, three times. You dont get the hint, and i dont have time for that kind of games. I will do zero accounts like this from now on. Feel free to trashtalk me all you wish here and on any other site, thats up to you.

Regards

Can you even keep track of your lies right now? You didn't send to the payout address he had in the field (he posted a screen shot of his payout address from his account BEFORE you processed the payout) and you didn't send to the address he had listed there.
4147  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: October 03, 2014, 11:05:52 PM
Well, we are in overt fraud territory now. Manl isn't even trying to keep the illusion that the site is legit anymore. Guy can't even be bothered to come up with a BS excuse as to why your 168 btc was sent to someone else. Now he's straight stealing money that's on the site by betting for them.

Problem is how to spread the word to people that don't use this forum .
I really can't think of a way. I do not at all condone DOS attacks, but how else can you stop someone who's intent who's running a scam site and stealing money? There's no way to earn people through the site. The only option is to get it shut down. Would reporting it as an illegal site get any traction? It has a .in domain. Short of that, there's DOS, but vigilante internet justice makes me uneasy, even though I believe we have the high ground here.

Yeah, i would never do it . But man, Joe lost 150+ btc to that site .

I hope word will spread around.

I don't know if that 1500 btc BR is legit investor money, or just a mirage. But if the site loses traffic, Manl just runs with whatever is still there. At this point, if he runs with anyone's money, that's on the investor too for being SO BLIND. You have to research this stuff, and it's not like all this negative rep is hard to find.
4148  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: October 03, 2014, 11:01:39 PM
Well, we are in overt fraud territory now. Manl isn't even trying to keep the illusion that the site is legit anymore. Guy can't even be bothered to come up with a BS excuse as to why your 168 btc was sent to someone else. Now he's straight stealing money that's on the site by betting for them.

Problem is how to spread the word to people that don't use this forum .
I really can't think of a way. I do not at all condone DOS attacks, but how else can you stop someone who's running a scam site and stealing money? There's no way to earn people through the site. The only option is to get it shut down. Would reporting it as an illegal site get any traction? It has a .in domain. Short of that, there's DOS, but vigilante internet justice makes me uneasy, even though I believe we have the high ground here.
4149  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: October 03, 2014, 10:54:46 PM
Well, we are in overt fraud territory now. Manl isn't even trying to keep the illusion that the site is legit anymore. Guy can't even be bothered to come up with a BS excuse as to why your 168 btc was sent to someone else. Now he's straight stealing money that's on the site by altering  losing bets to wipeout players' balances.
4150  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tight Credit? Why Ben Bernanke Couldn’t Refinance His Mortgage on: October 03, 2014, 10:49:53 PM
Speculation as to why he would want a mortgage isn't of any value to me. The only thing of importance here is he wants one but was denied and his opinion is that's a sign banks are being too responsible about loan terms.
4151  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tight Credit? Why Ben Bernanke Couldn’t Refinance His Mortgage on: October 03, 2014, 09:48:37 PM
..... I could not have wished for a better ending, his own economic policy backfiring on him! LOL!

Quote
“It’s entirely possible” that lenders “may have gone a little bit too far on mortgage credit conditions,” he said at a conference in Chicago, according to Bloomberg News.

Best quote ever, I almost thought this was an onion news network post.

He's talking about being too strict though. He's arguing for NOT being so strict in lending. His policy is still loose money, which means it hasn't backfired on him; he just hasn't learned his lesson.
4152  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: October 03, 2014, 09:46:29 PM
I'm SCAM_SITE! and I'm a degenerate gambler...

I put in 0.02 for my bot, this should last for a while unless they skip nonces on me  Grin



Edit: suddenly I feel lonely...



Unfortunately, without a chatbox to provide context to your screen name, this type of thing might not do much. Without context, it just looks like some disgruntled gambler who is pissed he lost money. That would be immediate conclusion absent all context if I saw this.
4153  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Video Footage Of Cop Executing Dillon Taylor Released on: October 03, 2014, 09:43:44 PM
Clearly the cop over-reacted and there should be consequences for the cop, otherwise it sends a message that they can get away with murder whenever they want.

Are you under the impression that cops regularly don't get away with murder? I'd love to see nationwide statistics on what how often police departments rule their own shootings to be justified, but those statistics don't exist because police aren't interested in being overseen by civilians.

Police departments shouldn't be able to investigate their own shootings. Every single one that results in a life taken should be investigated by an impartial, outside source that has no ties to the police department. In Wisconsin, police shootings used to be investigated by the police department that did the killing. In every single case over 129 year period, not one shooting was ruled unjustified. Does that seem likely to you? It sounds to me like police looking out for each other, and not the public they are sworn to protect.

I highly recommend this story about a shooting in Wisconsin that spurred one father's fight to get the law changed so that police departments couldn't investigate their own shootings:  http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/08/what-i-did-after-police-killed-my-son-110038.html

tl;dr his son was sitting on a street corner in police custody with his hands cuffed behind his back. A cop shot him in the head twice at point blank range (he pulled the trigger twice because the first shot misfired). The shooting was ruled justified by the same Wisconsin police department that shot him because the officer believed that the handcuffed kid sitting on the curb was trying to get his gun. An outside review determined the officer got his gun holster caught on a car mirror as he walked by it, mistook this for the kid reaching for his gun, and his first instinct was to shoot him in the head twice while he was still seated with his hands cuffed behind his back.

The opening of this article is chilling:

After police in Kenosha, Wis., shot my 21-year-old son to death outside his house ten years ago — and then immediately cleared themselves of all wrongdoing — an African-American man approached me and said: “If they can shoot a white boy like a dog, imagine what we’ve been going through."

I'm not anti-cop, but I'm certainly anti-bad cop. There's just no room in our society for those who take lives needlessly and then hide behind their badge and the police union to protect their job or pension.

Tip of the iceberg dude, police brutality in the US has got way out of hand. Not saying they're all psychopaths but there does seem to be a culture now of shooting first and asking questions later. The militarization of the cops certainly hasn't helped, they're policing the country as if it's a warzone.

Exactly. It's not the use of deadly force per se that is the problem, it's the immediate use of all types of force as the solution to the immediate problem. Tasers aren't the solution, it just reinforces the notion that cops have these instruments to make people do what they want when they order it, and the fact that they're supposed to be nonlethal (which is not always the case) increases the likelihood they'll use them.

Oh say for instance this cop who tasered an elderly woman in the back as she was walking away from him:  http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/us/florida-police-tase-woman/index.html?iref=allsearch

NOT A JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE.
4154  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tight Credit? Why Ben Bernanke Couldn’t Refinance His Mortgage on: October 03, 2014, 09:20:42 PM
Why would a Master of the Universe want/need a mortgage? I assume he thinks he can profit on it somehow, at the expense of some patsy or other.


Just because he's rich and powerful doesn't mean he doesn't buy more house than he can afford upfront like just about everyone else in America who buys a house. He's just doing it on a much grander scale I reckon.
4155  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tight Credit? Why Ben Bernanke Couldn’t Refinance His Mortgage on: October 03, 2014, 09:13:49 PM
I like how his response is that credit is too tight now, even though it was the loose credit under him and his predecessor that created the mess in the first place.

If you can't afford your house Ben, maybe you shouldn't be living outside your means!
4156  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: October 03, 2014, 08:41:28 PM
Could be, but I believe there are enough unaware people out there to make up the betting activity I see there right now.

I ran a bot there placing 100 satoshi bets with the nickname SCAMSCAMSCAM yesterday

Anybody up to help run a few dozen of them?  I'll fund it



Great initiative, I will also support this and will do this.

Wouldn't it be great if you won money by trying to warn people using this method. Watch out for those pesky withdrawals though. They're liable to be sent to god knows where without explanation.
4157  Economy / Services / Re: MoneyPot Signature Campaign - [Looking for More Members] Earn BTC For Posting! on: October 03, 2014, 08:37:37 PM
I see I've been added to the list on the first post. Thanks for confirming me. I'm happy to promote a game that is unique.
4158  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: October 03, 2014, 06:25:07 PM
Well, despite all our ruckus on this forum, site is functioning with blissfully unaware gamblers.

God have mercy on their souls.

Could be, but I believe there are enough unaware people out there to make up the betting activity I see there right now.

Are you sure about that?  Grin

looks nice .... going to try it now

Jesus Christ on a bike. 'Hey look, a 90-page thread about this online casino. I bet all those posts are about how awesome and honest the site is, so no bother reading any of them. Well, just stopped in to say that I'm about to put all mah bitcoins in this internet dice thinga majigger!'

And he was never heard from again...
4159  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Video Footage Of Cop Executing Dillon Taylor Released on: October 03, 2014, 06:20:33 PM
Clearly the cop over-reacted and there should be consequences for the cop, otherwise it sends a message that they can get away with murder whenever they want.

Are you under the impression that cops regularly don't get away with murder? I'd love to see nationwide statistics on what how often police departments rule their own shootings to be justified, but those statistics don't exist because police aren't interested in being overseen by civilians.

Police departments shouldn't be able to investigate their own shootings. Every single one that results in a life taken should be investigated by an impartial, outside source that has no ties to the police department. In Wisconsin, police shootings used to be investigated by the police department that did the killing. In every single case over 129 year period, not one shooting was ruled unjustified. Does that seem likely to you? It sounds to me like police looking out for each other, and not the public they are sworn to protect.

I highly recommend this story about a shooting in Wisconsin that spurred one father's fight to get the law changed so that police departments couldn't investigate their own shootings:  http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/08/what-i-did-after-police-killed-my-son-110038.html

tl;dr his son was sitting on a street corner in police custody with his hands cuffed behind his back. A cop shot him in the head twice at point blank range (he pulled the trigger twice because the first shot misfired). The shooting was ruled justified by the same Wisconsin police department that shot him because the officer believed that the handcuffed kid sitting on the curb was trying to get his gun. An outside review determined the officer got his gun holster caught on a car mirror as he walked by it, mistook this for the kid reaching for his gun, and his first instinct was to shoot him in the head twice while he was still seated with his hands cuffed behind his back.

The opening of this article is chilling:

After police in Kenosha, Wis., shot my 21-year-old son to death outside his house ten years ago — and then immediately cleared themselves of all wrongdoing — an African-American man approached me and said: “If they can shoot a white boy like a dog, imagine what we’ve been going through."

I'm not anti-cop, but I'm certainly anti-bad cop. There's just no room in our society for those who take lives needlessly and then hide behind their badge and the police union to protect their job or pension.
4160  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 7500+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: October 03, 2014, 06:10:42 PM
Could be, but I believe there are enough unaware people out there to make up the betting activity I see there right now.
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