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4141  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Rig Box on: March 06, 2012, 10:25:10 PM
This is a common practice to earn a bit on shipping, sometimes the seller lures the buyer with a low price only to get it all back with expensive shipping..
4142  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: [Bitarb] Bitcoin Arbitrage Bot Trading Fund - 53 Shares left for Bitarb.apr on: March 06, 2012, 08:50:49 PM
Is this a corporation or is this done as a personal endeavor?  If you're doing this personally or as the same corporation that has already defaulted on its numerous and sizable loans, "Investors" should understand that, were this ever to see attorneys, they would receive any payouts (if any) _after_ your existing debts are settled.

+1

4143  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: I think one of my GPUs has the the dreaded electromigration. on: March 06, 2012, 08:47:45 PM
Yeah.  I will try but given 47 or 48 cards work at sub 300 Mhz and one card dies instantly at clocks it ran fine before I doubt it is memclock is too low.

48 cards, that's quite a lot and an increased chance you stumble upon one that is of lower quality (as we know every chip is different, same as with CPUs)
4144  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: I think one of my GPUs has the the dreaded electromigration. on: March 06, 2012, 08:42:31 PM
Does it happen at different mem clocks too?
How high were the temperatures (vrms too)?

Haven't change memclock to see if that help/hurts I doubt it will make a difference but will look into it.

temps were mid 60C.  Linux has no way to see VRM temps but based on Windows experience of similar clocks that likely puts VRMs in the mid 80C range.

You had same cards/same settings/same environment when you used windows?
As for the memclock I had a card where it started to lock up at 280MHz after some time, but it did not occur when I increased the mem clock to 350.
4145  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Replacement heatsink/fan assembly for non-reference 5870 on: March 06, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
I have three non-reference 5870s that I absolutely hate.  They are a dual-fan Gigabyte design (http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3430#ov)

I cannot keep them cool.  They are well spaced, and each have a delta fan blowing down on them.  Cgminer tries to keep them at 75C.  One runs the fan at 0%, one at 67% and the other one can't keep up at 85% (at stock clocks).  I have tried reapplying thermal paste, etc.  

The heatsink and fan assembly are attached to the card by four screws surrounding the GPU.  Can I get aftermarket cooling solutions?  I would love to get a "reference" type cooler.

Is there a standard mounting system?  Or am I left in the dust because my card is non-reference?

Thoughts?

Dan

  

I have the same card, agree, cooling is shitty.
80-84C on core (depends if the windows is open) with a 80mm fan laid on exhausting hot air up, fan @ 85%
4146  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: I think one of my GPUs has the the dreaded electromigration. on: March 06, 2012, 07:24:50 PM
On one of my rigs I kept noticing the same GPU (#4 grr) going DEAD.  I lowered the clock, dead, lowered clock, dead. Finally put it at only 750 Mhz it was fine for a couple days and then I noticed it dead again.

I verified it now is no longer stable @ even 750.   Three "dead"s in 24 hours.  I dropped it to 725 (stock) and it has been stable for almost a day now (will update post for longer periods of testing).  So far just that one core on one rig (1 of 48 gpus) dislikes even moderate overclock.  The other GPU on the same card is fine @ 800 MHz.  At higher overclocks the "bad core" dies almost instantly.  Those two facts and a 1200W single rail PSU design make me think it isn't a power issue.

This is a very old card (over a year old need to lookup sales date).  It was one of the first 5970s I bought, and it is what convinced me to replace all my other GPUs with 5970s to consolidate my growing farm.  It has never been overvolted but last summer it did run "hot" for about a month before I bought a mini-split system to supplement the house main AC.  It has run overclocked but nothing crazy.  I ran it (guestimates) 835 early on.  I dropped all the clocks to 820 and then 800 once I got up to 6 rigs because micro managing them became a hassle.   I can't try overvolting at this point (which can "restore" performance on circuits suffer electromigration) because it is in a Linux rig.

Other than 3 fan failures (and me dropping a motherboard down the stairs) this is the first casualty of mining I have had.   As our GPUs get older I wonder if anyone else has noticed something similar.

Does it happen at different mem clocks too?
How high were the temperatures (vrms too)?
4147  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: March 06, 2012, 07:21:20 PM
No, but I don't have the trouble that most people seem to with keeping their cards mining.  If I was losing mining time every day (or every month) due to overclocking, or had to spend more than 10 minutes on it in the life of a rig, I would consider it a loss.
We did some math in the IRC channel..  every 1 Mhash you squeeze out of your GPU is a whopping $1.25 PER YEAR.  (at current diff and btc price).  Not really worth putting much time into.

What counts ultimately is the total valid share count, if you extrapolate MHash/s gain to every GPU in a farm you can get a nice sum. I overclock my GPUs 10 MHz below the verge of instability, as for overvolting this is only fine with good cooling and cheap/free electricity.
4148  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: ATI Radeon 9800 PRO on: March 06, 2012, 06:08:46 PM
ATi Radeon 9800 != GeForce 9800GT(X(+))
4149  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Custom Made Wooden Mining Rig - 5870 - 1784MH/s - UK Only - £1000 on: March 06, 2012, 05:51:39 PM
I have sent Cyper a PM that I have looked in to the profitability for my regions power costs & it is just prohibitive to mine here atm, I don't mind running it for a small loss but this would be much more than I could justify so very regrettably I have had to cancel my planned purchase, I have expressed my sincere apologies to Cyper for not having researched this properly before saying I would like to go ahead & he has every right to be annoyed at me for the extra work I've given him - I've offered him a small gift as a show of good will & hope that as he was in no rush that he can find someone better informed than I was to complete the sale  Embarrassed

Edit: seems like the calculator that I used had incorrect power costs for my region, now re-checking the feasibility against an actual electricity bill - Cyper is being fantastic re this & I really hope that I can still go ahead with it once I've re-worked the calcs for everything

Can't you just look at your bills from the power company or contact them instead of expecting some website to know what is your cost of electricity.
Also, make sure you get the total cost of electricity, charges for delivering it and all taxes. Where I live electricity itself isn't expensive - but it gets once I add in all the extra costs.
4150  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: March 06, 2012, 05:46:51 PM

Don't tell me you are running your GPUs at stock clocks  Cheesy
4151  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Need Help With ASRock A75 Extreme6 on: March 06, 2012, 01:21:09 PM
Thanks so much guys. The wire trick worked. Awesome..

You don't have to put it in the slot actually you can short the pins of the extender, works the same for me and I don't have to take out some components to get a better view.
4152  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: March 06, 2012, 08:25:18 AM


Try mining with the card on windows and open gpu-z which reads temperatures from all sensors. This is how I found why one of my cards was throttling despite <80C shown in bamt and stock voltage.
4153  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] MSI Radeon R6990 Card on: March 06, 2012, 12:39:24 AM
I would cut those nails.
4154  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Rig Box on: March 05, 2012, 11:38:20 PM
A single GPU unit doesn't make a lot of sense anymore.

yeah.. for 7 months at least
4155  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: March 05, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
Not a huge deal, but something I have noticed is if I make config changes through gpumon, then hit Shift-R to restart the processes... randomly it does a reboot instead (I hit shift-r, it stops the processes and says "the system is going down for reboot now" during that time).  it comes back up with the new config and it works fine... Any ideas?


Doesn't happen to me unless the OC is unstable.
4156  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What PSU are you using? on: March 05, 2012, 01:02:25 AM
TX850V2 for 3x5850, 5830 and 6770
Tagan u33 1000 for 2x5870, 5850 and 5830
vx550 - nothing for the moment
4157  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: What was your cheapest miner to build? on: March 04, 2012, 11:26:39 PM
Tagan 1000W - $75
Gigabyte 965P-S3 (4x PCIe) + C2D 4300 with heatsink + 2GB RAM - $55
HDD 80GB SATA - $10
6x extenders - $10
HD 5870 - $150

Not in dollars but I converted it.
That was the cheapest I could get, all GPUs I bought were bought for avg. prices, much higher than in US, so they aren't worth mentioning.
4158  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Core undervolting/overvolting on multi HD 6950 setup on: March 04, 2012, 07:39:04 PM

I have tried ATT, which does work, but only on 2 of my 4 GPUs.
I have never heard of barelyclocked, but look forward to giving it a shot; I will gladly send you a couple BTC if this works.

Did it work?  Smiley
Barelyclocked is a tool developed by a forum member so it isn't popular outside of here, he doesn't visit the forums any more but it worked on all of my cards so far (5830, 5850, 5870 and 6770)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16406.0

alternatively you could also try AOCLBF
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=10264.0
4159  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Need Help With ASRock A75 Extreme6 on: March 04, 2012, 07:13:12 PM
My friend ChriX_G has a problem with his ASRock A75 Extreme6 mobo. The top pcie 1x slot does not want to work. Trying to plug a HD6970 through a cablesarus 1x to 16x with molex adapter. I have tested the adapter on one of my rigs and it does work. Has anyone had experience with this? Do you know if something on the board has to be switched off for it to work? The three slots on the MoBo are populated with 3 HD7970's if that helps. Chrix_G would have posted but he is still in the newb section.

Thanks all!

Whats the PSU and how much power does the rig take?
Did you try shorting the pins?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=36061.0

Other cards and risers don't work on this slot too?
4160  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Need opinions on this PSU on: March 04, 2012, 06:00:07 PM
Well the problem one I have only whines intermittently when there is no load. If I load it up with a pair of 6990s or play a game the whine goes away, so I had assumed it was the fan whining at low rpm.


Maybe the whining is drowned out by the 6990s fans spinning? Or sth could be wrong with the bearing.
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