I suppose it is a very efficient method for collecting private keys

Network effect.

An ebay clone doesn't have the same potential as ebay.  
A BTC clone doesn't have the same potential as BTC.

It doesn't work that way.

Howabout the GOLD/SILVER RATIO

Say what you want. The facts are in this thread quoted. I just quoted his bet. I'm asking for clarification of the term physical silver.  How is the unfair to ask him to clarify the terms? Get a fucking life lol. I'm not doing anything dishonest.

Note: I strongly advise against using brainwallet.org.

Notme stay out of it. He made the call and bet about PHYSICAL silver prices. If he backed himself into a corner that's not my problem. Fair isn't decided by you. If he made an unreasonable call about physical silver prices then that's his problem. I have called him out. Waiting for confirmation From him.

Lol fair is not backing down on what he claimed that silver will do. He said physical silver price will go down below $10 for 1 oz of bullion. So we are talking in today's dollars as they exist backed by the bullshit faith and credit of the united states govt.

So S0302 what is it going to be? Care to define physical silver price? I have and I've called you out. Put up or shut up.

Thanks

Thanks all for your recommendations.

Do I need to try using the private key it generates every time or is my understanding correct that if I put the passphrase in correctly the same address I paid the bitcoin to will appear?  Also, if I am unsure whether or not I clicked on the Uncompressed/Compressed buttons I'm guessing I need to try both for each variation on the passphrase?

At the moment I'm using string manipulation in Excel to give me all the possible combinations for the 11 most likely errors I made which I will cut and paste one at a time into the brainwallet.org generator.  Any ideas as to how I could speed up this process?


This may well turn out to be a long-term project but with the amount on there if I manage it it will have been worth it!

I know what I did deserves a load of replies calling me a dipstick so I really do appreciate your trying to help me out and recover from this one.

Edit:  Thinking about it, I think the question regarding the address is:  Could the brainwallet.org generator be producing a different publik key (address) associated with the same private key (wallet)?  Because if it can then as I understand it I really do need to test each private key generated and not depend on recognising the address I initially used.  Am I right?

I recommend you go on a travel binge for a few years and then try to paint the picture. Clearly you have not spent time in Tokyo, for example. People are "stacked up", and there's not much grass, but typically you can walk around in the middle of the night, and only good or interesting things will happen to you. At this moment, Moscow or L.A. - not so much.

Consider these per-capita rates of violent crimes in Canada:

Quebec 756/100,000
Ontario 756/100,000

Manitoba 1,598/100,000
Saskatchewan 2,039/100,000
Yukon 3,007/100,000
NWT 6,448/100,000

Had you ever spent time in these places, you would have noticed that reality is exactly opposite of what you claim: more urbanized and densely populated areas have generally lower incidence of violent crimes. I don't say that there is a casual relationship, but obviously your claim of rural communities being less violent is false.

1. Your bet is pathetic in size. Let's up it.
2. You still haven't defined the physical silver price and what that means. No comex or paper silver etc.
3. Physical price to me is what you can buy silver bullion 1oz coins from dealers who are delivering and not storing it for you. We could even use an average of craigslist prices on that day to determine a fair physical price.
4. We are talking about US dollars today as they exist today. No modified US dollar currency where it is backed by something physical or any new US dollar period. Meaning if the dollar gets changed from now until then you lose the bet because you won't be able to gauge the value if it is not being used anymore.

Paying a fee is hard coded no matter if you have the oldest coins.

No, we've been talking about the same thing. You just spent so much time amongst scientists and engineers that you've forgotten how the average folks (e.g. bookkeepers, tradesmen, etc.) do arithmetic.

What I wrote was: 200/100 + 200/100 = 400/100 and 200/100 *  200/100 = 40000/10000. The concept of "un/certainity" is know to most of the people as "in/significant digits". You may have saved yourself some time right now, but you'll pay it all back (and more) when the users will start showing you examples where your mathematically correct arithmetic simply doesn't agree with their textbooks or with the results from the HP-12c.

What is the value of your "exact" arithmetic if it cannot exactly represent many of the solutions to the time value of money problems, e.g. APR is 5%, how much is this per month or per week or per day? Lots of TVM math requires irrational numbers, quite few commonly used calculations (e.g. IRR) don't have closed-form solutions and require iterative approximations. If your software is going to disagree with the HP-12c, your software is going to lose, not the HP-12c.

Does GNU gmp support all the rounding modes routinely used in accounting? I couldn't quickly find them in the documentation. IEEE-754 folks support at least the basic 5.

Edit: Anyway, the advanced quantitative trading software that I've seen used continuous compounding for the TVM calculations. I can't recall the minimum fixed precision that was required; it was either 6 or 8 digits after the decimal point.

Edit2: To avoid any further miscommunication: please try correctly implementing http://speleotrove.com/decimal/telco.html using your chosen representation.

ya i get this part. i read something like 1/5th of every tax dollar goes towards servicing debt at current (virtually zero) rates.

so sure if they keep ticking along at ~zero then they can stem the tide for a while, but tides have set a pretty strong historical precedent.

Essentially bonds are already negative interest, Do you think they would have the balls to actually make interest rates negative?

I think they are stuck between a rock (hyperinflation) and a hard place(deflation) and as bad as it might be, deflation is the lesser of two evils.

Developed nations. Not developing nations. You're a hack. Stop that.

I am with you on this hypothesis, but the really niggly thing is that bonds are in a bubble too. The bond market is way bigger than the gold market - doeasnt that make them the 'majority' that are going to lose (if/when the dollar collapses?).

The only points I saw from you were speculation about why gun control wouldn't work, rather than an analysis of where it clearly works.

I was not clear enough, I'll try again. Certainly there is, and always has been, unprovoked violence in all societies. However, the fact is that in some countries at some points of time the rates of violent attacks are 10 or 50 times lower than what we see today in the U.S., Russia, Colombia, or Thailand. How come? This is a good question to ask.

I spent time living in all sorts of countries, and have pretty much seen it all, from armed conflicts to gang violence, to boring and safe small towns, to safe and vibrant cities, to ghettos. I am not your typical gun control advocate. I think it's much more productive for us all to ask ourselves "how come?" than to seek a quick fix in gun control or in arming ourselves and our homes.

So, the topic being discussed in this thread is a red herring, and I can't even answer the poll.

Instead of hoping there's no obvious take away from the data, might it be better if you took a long detailed look at the nations which show preferable results regarding assaults and deaths, and engage in some discovery? I think so. Perhaps you could try as well, instead of engaging in dismissal. Or do you want your gun(s) that badly?